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Janet Napolitano refuses to test naked body scanners at JFK Airport

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Janet Napolitano says that you have to go through a body scanner and have a pornographic image of you, your girlfriend or wife and your children in order to fight the fake war on terrorism, but she probably won't have to go through one herself.

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Department of Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano yesterday hailed them as an important breakthrough for airport security and the fight against terrorism.

Yet when it came to testing the devices - which produce chalky, naked X-ray images of passengers - she declined to go through the scanner turned the floor over to other volunteers.
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74 comments // Janet Napolitano refuses to test naked body scanners at JFK Airport

  • psmealey
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      psmealey  
    • Wow. I thought youtube was bad, but the comments here are the dumbest of the dumb. Two things
      1. Napolitano was in charge of vendor machine and product acceptance testing, I think she knows it works without having to step through it.
      2. Napolitano was vetted by the Congress, the FBI, the National Security Agency, and likely the DoD. I think we're safe from her trying to carry a weapon through terminal gate security.

    • 1 year ago
  • Proud_Progressive
  • jubal
    • +1
      jubal  
    • If TSA needs to get off on seeing people's penis, vaginas, and breasts to make us safe that is a sad state of affairs. Especially when the people who make the rules don't have to follow them.

    • 1 year ago
  • discusted
  • masterzip
  • maasanova
    • +1
      maasanova  
    • masterzip:

      The Action for Rights of Children disagress with your charges of false outrage:

      "New scanners break child porn laws"

      The rapid introduction of full body scanners at British airports threatens to breach child protection laws which ban the creation of indecent images of children, the Guardian has learned.

      Privacy campaigners claim the images created by the machines are so graphic they amount to "virtual strip-searching" and have called for safeguards to protect the privacy of passengers involved.

      "The decision followed a warning from Terri Dowty, of Action for Rights of Children, that the scanners could breach the Protection of Children Act 1978, under which it is illegal to create an indecent image or a "pseudo-image" of a child.

      http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/jan/04/new-scanners-child-porn-laws

    • 1 year ago
  • Tayllerand
  • Tayllerand
    • +1
      Tayllerand  
    • It is easy for the goverment to violate child pornografy laws in the name of national security, also they store the pictures of all the people in those computers. Aditional to that the radiation that people have to go through, I wonder if the employes of TSA know about the radiation.

    • 1 year ago
  • Gravity_Man
    • Gravity_Man  
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  • Mark701
  • Dazedandconfused
  • Paratus
    • 0
      Paratus  
    • More government control. This is an example of the elites pushing policy on the serfs. I bet she, and others like her, get up every day and try to think of new ways to herd the masses. Everyone should opt out of these.

    • 1 year ago
  • Gravity_Man
  • Mark701
    • +1
      Mark701  
    • Paratus:

      I assume you mean the Bush elites. They're the ones that dreamed all this stuff up to "protect us from terrorism", the net result being 300,000,000 Americans spied on and zero terrorists caught.

    • 1 year ago
  • pissedoffinarkansas
  • Paratus
    • 0
      Paratus  
    • Mark701:

      I meant elites. Bush, Obama, Clinton, makes no difference. Trying to to mitigate Obamas responsibility in this will not work. Regardless of who dreamed it up you might want to remember that Obama has been president for the past two years. This is on his watch so don't try to blame this on one person more than anyone else. You need to realize that when you are loosing your freedom it makes no difference if the person doing it is a Democrat or Republican unless it is your contention that it is better to have your freedoms removed by a Democrat than a Republican.

    • 1 year ago
  • Gravity_Man
    • -1
      Gravity_Man  
    • Paratus:

      You mean the Messiah, the anointed one of the United States of America, has been absorbed into the body of Satan?!

      Won't that turn the rest of them Black?

      They aren't gonna like that.

    • 1 year ago
  • BrushwithDeathToothpaste
  • Gravity_Man
    • 0
      Gravity_Man  
    • BrushwithDeathToothpaste:

      There was a time once, long ago in a distant galaxy, where people decided who they exposed their body to or not. A people who had many illnesses made worse by excess radiation. Well, they got the radiation anyway, and they got their rights stripped off like cheap clothes, and then they all died with accelerated cancers.

      So they could stay safe.

      Nudists wishing to push their lifestyle, working gov't jobs, won.

    • 1 year ago
  • BrushwithDeathToothpaste
    • -1
      BrushwithDeathToothpaste  
    • BrushwithDeathToothpaste:

      The amount of radiation you're exposed to during a two-second millimeter-wave scan exposes you to radio-wave radiation that is 10,000 times less powerful than radiation levels that pulse from a cellphone.

      I hope you don't use a cellphone.

      "Nudists wishing to push their lifestyle, working gov't jobs, won."

      What? Please explain the complex leap in logic.

    • 1 year ago
  • BrushwithDeathToothpaste
  • jbird9936
  • Ryan_McNeely
    • +1
      Ryan_McNeely  
    • in post 9/11 days things have changed drastically but nothing like this. I got flight benefits from a family member who worked for continental for over ten years and have experience every rule change there has been. i flew 2 wks after 9/11 through Boston Logan airport (same airport hijackers used) when i was 14 w no fear from an act of terrorism. Having said that these machines scare me. It is an invasion of privacy and bc they are random they are not useful. the randomness of full body scans are another reason TSA has not stopped a single terrorist or wannabe terrorist. the best change for saftey was the increase in air marshalls flying in the air w/ the public. Good knews is I don't think they use this machine on anyone who just flys domestic but i'm sure that depends on the airport and is subject to change if anything else happens.As a dying industry the airlines really can't afford to alienate any more of its customers. if you are asked to take the full body scan refuse and ask then for a refund on your ticket so you can take a bus or a train lol, i promise they will not want to lose your patronage. they need to keep what works and lose the expensive faux security that they think makes people feel safe. or if they keep it up maybe all the people they fire from the airline industry they can rehire as TSA and added security.

    • 1 year ago
  • ayipis
    • -1
      ayipis  
    • so do we profile now??

      any suggestions??

      i say that there should be 2 flights..one scanned and one unscanned ..fly at your own risk..

    • 1 year ago
  • stubones
  • observer2121
    • +1
      observer2121  
    • This is going too far.

      "Give me Liberty, or give me Death!"

      We are giving up far too many of our rights for the sake of safety, you can't protect yourself from everything. Someone in government watched V for Vendetta too many times and seems to be trying to replicate that society.

    • 1 year ago
  • ayipis
    • -1
      ayipis  
    • observer2121:

      LOL..may that someone is you...I think you have seen vandetta way to many times and you take this Hollywood shit way to seriously..

      tip..dont let Hollywood feed you their conspiracies..they just want your money

    • 1 year ago
  • observer2121
    • +1
      observer2121  
    • ayipis:

      I'm not the one making people pass through machines that show them naked. Have you watched the film, from your response I think you really don't know what I am talking about. On the other hand if you have watched it I think you may be taking my analogy a little too literally. I am simply saying that forcing people to reveal their naked bodies to another person just to get on a plane is going too far. You can disagree if you like.

    • 1 year ago
  • Kristena
  • andreii
  • stubones
    • +2
      stubones  
    • Don't you people understand that the real issue here is A "Control" issue. And when it comes to "terrorism", this fucked up control freak Government is about 99.9% of the terrorism on this planet.
      I only wish there were A modern day Author who could write A truly prophetic book equivalent to Orwell's 1984. It seems that people are so enamored in the cheap crap that is dished out to us on T.V. that nobody wants to read and understand the vital message Orwell served up. Is this generation so FKG illiterate and apathetic to not even want to know where this Government, Media and Corporatocracy are taking us. From wiretaps, Internet surveillance, Patriot act "take your rights away" policys, Citizens United v Federal Election Commission and the impending net neutrality issues we all need to be scared shitless..
      I read mostly brain dead comments here and it really concerns me that this is how people respond to being put under A microscope by this Government while traveling. This country is going to hell in A hurry because citizens are so eager to give up their "Liberty" for this Governments latest version of "Security". Our Constitution and Bill of Rights is the only thing standing between us and the ultra rich that want A subserviant and submissive populace that is totally controlled by the Kings and Queens of Wallstreet and Corporate Dynastys. We are all being played and manipulated by fear. They will destroy the middle class and we are soon to be A third world Nation. Don't fall prey to this. Go to websites like "Common Dreams", "Firedog Lake", "Alternet", "Truthout", "Truthdig", ***"Third World Traveler" {which covers just about all!!!}, and Tom Englehardts site. READ and LEARN America, Before it is too late!!!

    • 1 year ago
  • chris50
    • +1
      chris50  
    • stubones:

      I do not remember voting for for the lost of my liberties. When I woke up one day they were just gone. Nobody asked us anything. they just took them away. We didn't give up our rights, they ere tken away from us. What I do not understand is that we just said okie doky and never said a word. Why are we not in the street today fighting for our freedoms like our forefathers???? Why are we only fighting amongst ourselves on this. I say take the fight to the streets. Two people can not do this because we would be taken away somewhere far away and never heard of again. We, americans can be locked up without due councel for terrorist act against our government now. So we sit at our computers and talk shit.

    • 1 year ago
  • ozoneocean
    • 0
      ozoneocean  
    • The only thing I care out is the time it takes to get through the queues at the airport.

      If this increases the time then it FAILS.

      If this speeds things up then it's fine with me.

    • 1 year ago
  • Sparky2U
  • Sparky2U
    • -4
      Sparky2U  
    • I would not want to see an image of that skank. We would have people complaining that they blew chunks on their key boards!

    • 1 year ago
  • MizPiz
  • NotFooled
  • EmperorThan
    • +5
      EmperorThan  
    • So when a terrorist ingests a whole bunch of C4 and boards the plane after clearing the naked body scan should we start giving everyone colonoscopies before boarding?

    • 1 year ago
  • Gravity_Man
    • +3
      Gravity_Man  
    • You know, this is pretty dumb. It would be so SIMPLE to reverse the scanner image to only show questionable items. Just have the scanner tuned to only show anything tougher than human skin. Nothing else would show.

      Adjust the scanners. hahahahaha What a novel thought.

      I've had cancers and I've had lifetime thyroid disease so I don't go through them. I have enough on my plate thanks. Didn't they prove a few years ago that radiating food to kill germs under plastic wrap was bad? Well, I'll have to dress up as a piece of chicken and wrap myself in plastic.

    • 1 year ago
  • MARIANA_1995
    • -2
      MARIANA_1995  
    • it is to prevent the national security,god,why everything has to be a big problem??,it just through your body,one of the millions bodies,and help to stop the terrorism in the countries

    • 1 year ago
  • irie_ojo
    • +6
      irie_ojo  
    • MARIANA_1995:

      terrorism is manufactured by the people who run our country............. it's all about money and power..... the power to control people through fear.

      everyone it's time to give up all your rights in order to protect yourselves from terrorism...

    • 1 year ago
  • EmperorThan
    • +5
      EmperorThan  
    • MARIANA_1995:

      Because there's a point at which 'not letting the terrorist win' is LETTING THE TERRORIST WIN.

      Here's what I say we should do: Track down and know who are terrorists before they are permitted to buy the airline ticket, protect the cockpit door, and give everyone an acceptable/reasonable security scan, if they still get on then we shouldn't be reduced to absurdity for the fears of 1 in 100 million travelers.

      Or in the words of Fight Club "On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero."

      If we want to put this 'Homeland Security' money to good use we should spend it on preventing Heart Disease THE NUMBER ONE KILLER IN AMERICA! More people will die by the end of this sentence from heart disease than will die from terrorism in the next few months.

    • 1 year ago
  • ozoneocean
  • ayipis
    • -2
      ayipis  
    • irie_ojo:

      hahahhahahahahhaah LOL..funny huh and all that time you thought that obama was going to change everything for the better..

      and tragic enough this new technology might expose your "little" problem (sorry just had to use that joke)

    • 1 year ago
  • common_sense_please
  • ozoneocean
    • 0
      ozoneocean  
    • Hahaha, stupid prudish old tart.
      These scanners make me laugh at people old fashioned prudish Christian sensibilities. I bet they don't even know why they have them anymore, even the ones proud to call themselves "atheist".
      It's hilarious and sad. "pornographic' indeed! What a joke.

    • 1 year ago
  • NickerBocker09
  • nkeg87
    • +3
      nkeg87  
    • Any one know about the radiation or possibility of radiation emitted from these? I mean, you aren't even supposed to get hospital X-rays that often.

    • 1 year ago
  • EthicalVegan
    • +4
      EthicalVegan  
    • If I were still in my twenties (and blindly had no concerns for the possibility of developing cancer), I might not have minded this too much. But now (and just after yet another startling birthday), flying no longer will be an option for me... SIGH...

    • 1 year ago
  • ayipis
  • EmperorThan
    • +5
      EmperorThan  
    • I could give a shit less about them seeing me naked. I walk around naked in front of my open windows at home all the time. What I don't want is to get cancer as a result of being a frequent flier!

    • 1 year ago
  • CarlosBobthe3rd
    • +3
      CarlosBobthe3rd  
    • I wouldn't go through one either but soon they will expand them to other places besides airport. Bus stations, Subways, Sporting Events, School, Who knows?

    • 1 year ago
  • JanforGore
  • ayipis
  • Varex_Sythe
  • ayipis
    • 0
      ayipis  
    • Varex_Sythe:

      ahh okay so can that reinforced cockpit fit 99.9% of the passengers??...maybe you fly ultra first class and sit inside the cockpit but the rest of us peasant have to to sit outside of that special reinforced cockpit..

      again ..any suggestions??

      anybody??

    • 1 year ago
  • Varex_Sythe
    • 0
      Varex_Sythe  
    • ayipis:

      Fit 99.9% of the passengers? Why would it need to do that, to protect the potential high jacker and/or terrorist? After 9/11, people who have openly admitted that they are high jacking the plane have been killed by the passengers in a panicked frenzy. It didn't happen before 9/11 because a high jacker just meant that the plane was going to land somewhere else, and before you would be let go again some ransom demands would be met. Then the demands would be met and you go home. So causing less trouble for the high jacker was safer than causing more. However, after 9/11 the formula changed a bit, and allowing a high jacker to have his/her way meant you could certainly die a horrible death. So now civilians will fucking swarm and kill people who claim that they will high jack the plane.

      But if it is explosives that you are worried about, don't worry quite so much. A reinforced door is not going to stop an explosion from killing everyone on the plane, including the pilots. The thing is, naked body scanners don't detect hidden explosives any better than the naked eye does. So truthfully, you're screwed either way on that one, but at least you'll have spent less money to be just as screwed.

    • 1 year ago
  • Varex_Sythe
    • +2
      Varex_Sythe  
    • But, she's special. She shouldn't have to have to go through the body scanners because everyone knows who she is. It would be much more meaningful for some random stranger whom none of us know to go through the machine.

    • 1 year ago
  • chloroplasts
  • EmperorThan
  • ayipis
  • chloroplasts
  • eternal_springs
    • +4
      eternal_springs  
    • I'm pretty certain my flying days are over. Makes me wonder if at some point we'll have such scanners at the doors of every home connected to the "department." 1984.....aptly written, inaccurate title.

    • 1 year ago
  • corndog67
    • +4
      corndog67  
    • Just have some tape and stuff on your schlong, rubber bands, ribbons, bow ties, sparkly stuff, just so you shock the shit out of them. Little arrows pointing at your crotch taped to your stomach, sparpie writing all over everything, make them think you are a total freak unless this is something you do already, and you don't want anyone to know.

      Everyone is so uptight. Just do something so off the wall, they won't want to look. And lighten up, it's your body. Be naked (on video) and proud.

    • 1 year ago
  • mik661
  • dalistuff
  • mik661
  • CarlosBobthe3rd
  • noxidereus
  • bailey78
  • rhetoricallyineffective
  • bailey78
  • rhetoricallyineffective
  • PressCore
    • +7
      PressCore  
    • At least in Total Recall they only displayede skeletons.
      This is an obscenely extreme invasion of the right to privacy.
      When I travel I'm going by sea to avoid the pervert voyeurs.
      National security my ass.

    • 1 year ago
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