WEST BANK REALITY.
source: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=128214423
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In the West Bank, these supposed terrorists are getting into our most redneck sporting endevour.The "sport" of auto racing.
To the right it begs the question, since when do terrorists who only want the destruction of the west, engage in the west's means of recreation? How does racing around in circles like our rednecks, show a desire to institute sharia in your town? How come these supposed muslim militants allow thier woman to not only drive cars, but race them? In western dress no less?
To the left, how is it that amidst a genocide/aparthied/holocaust (or what ever hot button term of the week you fancy) does auto racing grow? How in a genocide do a people find racing a priority, or even have the freedom to do it? In an aparthied of segregation, how are auto parts, and fuel made available for use in auto racing? Wouldnt these scarce supplies be used in a manor related to survival, not used wastefully for recreation? Does it not show a surplus of supplies available, as opposed to the alleged lack of them?
Even if you dont care to read the story.
Even if you dont care to invest your critical thought.
The picture alone says it all.
A woman not in a burka, or hijab.Wearing a t-shirt with the british flag on it, and racing coveralls.Tooling around in a car engine, that she will race.In the palestinian west bank, just like any place else in the modern world.
No terrorism.
No famine.
Just people, being people.
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The Arab Palestinians are not a distinct ethnic group - they are part of a large ethnic group that rules 22 countries - they are Arabs. Maybe once upon a time some of them belonged to distinct ethnic-cultural groups (such as Jews and Samaritans) before Islamization and Arabization was forced on the majority of the Middle East by the Arab-Muslim imperialists-colonialists.
Real distinct ethnic-cultural groups in the Middle East are the Kurds, the Amazigh people (Berbers), the Nubians (such as those massacred, raped, tortured and ethnically cleansed by the Arab-Muslim government in Sudan, which is how a non-Arab non-Muslim land turns into another Arab-Muslim country), the Assyrians, the Copts, the Armenians and other native populations in the Middle East that predate the Arab-Muslim conquest, including Jews, BTW.
The Brits already gave 78% of the Palestine mandate to the Arabs and it's called Jordan today, but Israel offered to the Arab Palestinians twice (Barak in 2000 and Olmert in 2008) their own state in Gaza and most of Judea & Samaria/the West Bank, plus land swaps (which in the Olmert offer made about 100% of the Judea & Samaria/West Bank territory in size), and a settlement in Jerusalem, and twice the Arabs rejected it. What they want is to replace Israel with another Arab Muslim state. That's all there is to it. When the Arabs decide to make real peace, recognize Israel as a Jewish state that will never become another Arab Muslim state, and live in peace in an Arab Palestinian state NEXT to Israel and not INSTEAD of Israel, then there could be peace.
If the "international community" really wanted peace they would be pressuring the Arabs to settle on the maximalist Olmert offer rather than continue pressuring Israel to jump over the edge of the cliff. So my conclusion is that the "international community" does not want a peaceful resolution, but rather have another kind of "solution" in mind.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=illF1vt5g1Q&feature=player_embedded
Palestinian(sic) hit song for children: 'When we die as martyrs'
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creepy shit
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http://www.standwithus.com/ONLINE_BOOKLETS/west%20bank/
Read this booklet for some hate free information.
For example, did you know that the built-up areas of Israeli settlements cover just 1.7 percent of all West Bank land. Does your hate filled mind....you know who you are...... want to know?
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crystalman:
dang jews. i thought they were suppose to keep it at 1.5%
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crystalman:
StandWithUs is a totally biased pro-Israel education and advocacy organization based in Los Angeles.
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Vierotchka:
and whats wrong with that?
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congoboy:
What's wrong with that? It propagates lies, just as you do.
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Vierotchka:
im not lyin when i say i got what you need
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congoboy:
Inasmuch as you actually believe that you've got what I need, technically speaking you're not lying - but in fact, you couldn't be further from the truth.
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Vierotchka:
please notice my lack of support for the propaganda.
just saying - 1 year ago
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Vierotchka:
so sorry, i don't come with batteries but it sounds like you do
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congoboy:
It is glaringly obvious that you only can cum with batterings.
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Vierotchka:
Anything pro truth and justice is biased from your...er..biased position. Hypocrisy and projection are your game.
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congoboy:
Don't let this malevolent low life bait you. Ignore it and it will go away. Why waste time on bigots and haters with fossilised minds?
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Vierotchka:
oh baby, im all yours
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Einsam_Data_Old:
she started it!
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crystalman:
i'll, i'll try
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crystalman
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My guess is that Muslims are attacking the site
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crystalman:
You and H20 really should switch up. He can attack Muslims and you can take over the attack on Libertarians.
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xfgdfhgfh:
your mother sews socks that smell
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freecrack:
LOL! i love that line!
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really? with an avatar? dumbass
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Incredulous:
isnt it beyond absurd?
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Incredulous:
lol technicaly now you are spam too
ahhhhhh its spreading. - 1 year ago
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send in your answers now
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crystalman:
It's cool to use the same logic for taking the land of the native peoples of Americas. Real convincing.
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ahappymintleaf:
but evaluating that situation in looking to understand this one is helpfull.
so far israel, is batting a thousand compared to us, but are still running afoul of many of the same errors we did. - 1 year ago
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ahappymintleaf:
apples and oranges. if native americans were lobbing explosives over my fence i might restrict their movement as well
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congoboy:
but considering everything that they endured, it would make sense for them to be doing so. willful blindness to one's own depravity isn't a usable defense.
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ahappymintleaf:
aint that the bitch of it.
like all those hot chicks who go anorexic, while the snookies of the world think they are just such hot shit.
if the world made anysence, the palestinians would function like the native americans, and the native americans would be going on full out jihad in arizona. - 1 year ago
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MEtQU5x5sE&feature=player_embedded
Palestinian corruption and humanitarian aid
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZisdRoWqP8&feature=share
Jordan is Palestine
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xs0xLdFqU_s&feature=player_embedded
Paleastinian girl calls for genocide of Jews on PA TV.
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crystalman:
I cant believe the Palestinians are so hateful of the Israelis. I mean they all treat them with love and respect.
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Radical_Centrist:
well lets see.
in the in the early 1900's a few hundred jews showed up to build a town, and the palestinian response was to imprison the local jewish leader.no crime had been comitted, just too many jews were present, so he goes to jail.
in the 30's the palestinians were petitioned again to allow the jews a homeland, and the palestinians said no.for what reason? still no one knows.
in the forties is was proposed again, in different terms to hopefully stisfy the palestinians, and yet again it was refused.
in 48 after the jews fought off the colonial ruling british, they asked the palestinians to share a coallition government, wich the palestinians responded to with a declaration of war.just curioius, how many times are the israelis supposed to politely ask to have the right to exist?
should they just accept being slaughtered, and say "please" until they are all dead?at the end of the day, no israeli civilian has strapped a suicide vest on, and blown up palestinian civilians.
no israeli civilian has launched a single rocket at palestinian homes.that is the difference between the two sides.israel just wants to be left to exist.the palestinians require the removal of the jews, in order to exist.one tolerant, the other not.
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freecrack:
You cannot be completely sure of the last part. There are constantly local struggles that never see the light of the press. New Orleans and the racist police come to mind. Detroit. The law needs to be applied equally to all humans in a given area. Around the whole world this is a big problem. Because someone is Palestinian does not make them more prone to violence and because someone is Jewish they are not more tolerant. Just people being KOOL or being assholes and others lining up behind their chosen side. Once blood is drawn, everything changes. Hatred starts and escalates.
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treewolf39:
im sure of that last part, in broad cultural terms.
as a culture, the israeli mandate is for peace.it has been that wat for 62 years.but i dont know how much longer that will be the case, as the element you mentioned, of blood being spilled and hate breeding is growing.
the palestinians have a greater obsticle, in they are not availed of free speech.look at our islamophobia, with free speech.now imagine us without it, and fox being the the man stream media.would we be moderate people, as a culture?
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freecrack:
OMG your trying to scare the shit out of me. If Fox is considered normal we as a nation are collectively fucked. Why worry about the middle east at all; the blood letting will start here soon enough.
To SAY you have a mandate for peace is much different then promoting polices that bring peace. We are dealing with humans, and politics period.
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Radical_Centrist:
and they would treat them even more so if theyd quit lobbing bombs into the neighborhoods of innocent civilians
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qc-7GK6F4RI&feature=related
Fatah: Our goal has never been peace.
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I was there recently and the fakestinian taxi driver at Bethlehem wanted to give me ''an Arab price, a good Palestinian price''. Turned out it was 10 times above the going tariff. Lying cheating motherfuckers.
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The situation in the West Bank is far better than that in the Gaza Strip. It is in the latter that supplies are scarce or non-existent.
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Vierotchka:
a distinction seldom made.especialy considering "humanatarian aid" efforts arent just 5 yrs old.
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Vierotchka:
Been there, have you?
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MrMxyzptlk:
Even some non-idiots are unable to swing a club, and there are numerous injuries related to golf - mostly lumbar and knee injuries, and those injuries caused by receiving a golf ball in the face (eyes have been lost through such accidents).
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sorry, i just dont think its a sport.
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I build engines. I just built a 500 Hp 350 Chevy Engine, 700 R4 Transmission with Corvette racing parts and shift kit, and a new rear end for my Pick Up. It is a HOBBY.
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MrMxyzptlk:
yes, i just fuck my wife cuz i need to keep up appearances in my nonexistant social scene.
in fact once i realized that nascar was retarded, i also was overcome with a deep desire for cock.
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redneck a world wide problem.
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So because they can race, it makes this ok?
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toyotabedzrock:
http://www.topnews.in/files/Gaza-Strip-West-Bank.jpg
The blockade affects the Gaza strip not the West Bank. You are trying to intermingle the two to confuse.
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toyotabedzrock:
If you as a people embrace terrorists and corrupt leaders such as the PLO and Hamas or Hezbollah what do you think is going to happen?
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toyotabedzrock:
becuase they can race, it dispells a lot of propaganda, such as supplies are so scarce, that no one has the gasoline needed to fuel the means by wich lights are kept on, and food is cooked.
unless you think racing uses minimal fuel, and they as a culture value racing cars over feeding themselves?
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the blockade is instuted on the gazans, and the bank identicaly.it only effects the gazans more than it does the bank, cuz the bank hasnt pissed of jordan, as much as the gazans have pissed of the egyptians.same standards are placed on both the blockades by israel, gaza is effected more as egypt shuts down its border with gaza too, wich jordan doesnt do the the bank.
but remember ignore all of that, and blame israel.the point of the post was to not confuse the two, but actualy highlight the difference, and dispell that the bank, and gaza are one in the same.hence the article title being "west bank" reality, not palestinian reality.
no where in this peace, wich has the bbc link attached, do i cloud the bank with gaza.it is those who attack israel in the media who do this.this story serves literaly to show howthe "palestinians" do not exist uniformly.
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This story in no way defines the whole West Bank. The truth is that terrorism and lack of food can exist right along side wealth and prosperity. Juarez, Mexico is a fine example.
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treewolf39:
Mexico's violence isnt being blamed on a blockade unless you count Arizona's sheriff Joe.
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mik661:
There are lots of ways to create blockades. Blame does not matter if no is planning to do shit about the problem anyway. I would LOVE to spend a month in Israel, Gaza, and The West Bank. I hate having to relay on the VERY VERY limited view our media shoves at us.
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treewolf39:
and who help enforce the blockade? Their Arab brothers in Eqypt and Jordan.
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mik661:
I was speaking of the Mexican financial blockade. Countries don't embrace terrorism, they get pushed and punished to that point. Egypt is brutal and corrupt, they are our ally. Arab brothers my ass.
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treewolf39:
So Syria and Iran our our allies too? Do you see them opening their borders or allocating some of their land for a Palestinian state? How about Jordan? Will they give back some of the land they "stole"?
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mik661:
I thought I made it clear in my first comment that I do not have a firm grasp on the ground conditions in Israel, Or Gaza, or The West Bank. I suggest a trip there to get a real feel and perspective of the situation.
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treewolf39:
Personally I dont care what their conditions are at this point. I refuse to feel guilty that life sucks more than mine in other countries or that I should be washing my socks while i shower or something like that to help them. I never wanted our troops over their to begin with once the initial action against the taliban.
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I feel your pain!
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mik661:
It isn't up to neighboring countries to set up a country for Palestinian refugees when it was Israel that made them refugees. The point is for people to live comfortably and self-determinedly on their historic homeland, not just to live somewhere.
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mik661:
No one is making you care that there are global calamities that the Western world is directly perpetuating. You can choose to tune out. That's the crutch to why this is so fucked up.
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mik661:
The violence is NOT about the blockade but the OCCUPATION.
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Radical_Centrist:
Which is why Syria and Iran are all involved right because of their arab brothers plight?
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ahappymintleaf:
The palestinians have a state it is called Jordan.
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ahappymintleaf:
Then go over there and stand in front of a bulldozer.
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Radical_Centrist:
Most of the nations in the world are occupying someone elses homeland.
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mik661:
And Native Americans have their reservations. It all works out nice when you force people off of their homeland and put them into foreign or constrained spaces, doesn't it?
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