Unpatriotic Calif. School Orders Boy to Remove American Flag From Bike
source: http://www.theblaze.com/stories/calif-school-orders-boy-to-remove-american-flag-from-bike/
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“In this country we’re supposed to be free,” said Cody, who attends Denair Middle School near Sacramento, CA. “And I should be able to wave my flag wherever I want to. And they‘re telling me I can’t.”http://www.theblaze.com/stories/calif-school-orders-boy-to-remove-american-flag-...
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curtisreed
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Something about the article makes me question the veracity of some of the quotes...that Hispanic superintendent sounds like a total fucking moron. Did Denair Unified School District Superintendent Edward Parraz really say that?
“Our Hispanic, you know, kids will, you know, bring their Mexican flags and they’ll display it, and then of course the kids would do the American flag situation, and it does cause kind of a racial tension which we don’t really want,” Parraz said. “We want them to appreciate the cultures.”
How fucked up can you get? To say that for an American citizen to fly his own flag in his own country should be discouraged because it upsets the Mexicans who, by the way, fly THEIR flag in OUR country?! And WE should "appreciate the cultures"?
Fuck you, Parraz. Ignorant prick. Do any of you have ANY idea what would happen if you flew American flags in mexico and then told the Mexicans they couldn't fly their flag because it was "offensive"?!
I've spent enough time in Mexico to know that they would not tolerate that bullshit for one pinche segundo.
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Einsam_Data_Old:
...I apologise here, if I've misinterpreted your post, but why are you mentioning Autism here, and how do you perceive the condition?
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The false notion that the Battle Flag must be a racist symbol is born of the mistaken belief that the Civil War was about slavery. This bit of propaganda has been repeated ever since President Lincoln and his political allies decided to “free the slaves” (in actuality Lincoln only freed those slaves in the Confederacy, slaves in Union states such as Maryland and West Virginia remained slaves). The truth, however, is plain to anyone who wishes to delve into the history, and the proof lies in the proposed Corwin Amendment of 1861. This amendment was proposed by Congressman Thomas Corwin (R) from Ohio and stated...No amendment shall be made to the Constitution which will authorize or give to Congress the power to abolish or interfere, within any State, with the domestic institutions thereof, including that of persons held to labor or service by the laws of said State.http://12angrymen.wordpress.com/2007/05/01/the-true-meaning-of-the-confederate-f...
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Einsam_Data_Old:
i forgot to add the source...http://12angrymen.wordpress.com/2007/05/01/the-true-meaning-of-the-confederate-f... instead of being the typical leftylib apologist for everything evil and chiming in like a capuchin monkey parroting the shit your friends tell you try doing some real research sometime
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Einsam_Data_Old:
damn we have ourselves a jeanyus
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Einsam_Data_Old:
it was my attempt at mocking you hillbilly style. guess it got lost in translation
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Einsam_Data_Old:
what an ignoramus
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Einsam_Data_Old:
where'd you get your sense of humor? a car wreck?!
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congoboy:
damn....I guess the South should have won. Now we're all slaves.
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Einsam_Data_Old:
actually, congoboy is not mistaken on this one. The Civil War was actually fought over State's rights....slavery, was merely a right the South wanted to retain.
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Incredulous:
and who's da massa?
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...I suppose being an Auzzie, I feel more comfortable commenting on things down under...lol...I just don't get this at all...this to me is PC gone mad...we have 2 flags flying down here, the Auzzie flag and the Indigenous flag...they are EVERYWHERE...because...DUH...it is Australia...if anyone objects to anyone flying their own country's flag, while in their own bloody country, well, we're on a slippery bloody road to hell...oh, and while I'm on the subject, we celebrate Christmas as well, EVERYWHERE...suck it up...a certain group, which I will not mention, tried to stop that in our schools as well...yeah, right, good luck on that...when the day dawns, that we lose our identity as a country, then we're fucked...
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eden49:
You are so right eden, and sadly there are far to many who have no pride in America and the flag for which it stands, imho.
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eden49:
yup, there was a time not too many years ago when schools in america held christmas parties and also did the santa thing kind of a mix, like a labradoodle. no one complained or gave it a second thought. the country was more of a national community back then. even as a jewish kid growin up i wasnt offended by this, as long as i got to share in some of the sweets and cake! the country had its problems but as a whole we were more unified. then the kids who grew up in the 60's got some kind of big chip on their shoulders many became atheistic, leftist, pimply faced lawyers with nothing better to do than change american traditions they didnt like, like takin the word of god out of or off of everything or attempting to remove crosses and stars of david off of war memorials and grave stones. you know the minority rule syndrome? now of course there were and still are injustices in this country that need attention and rectifying. if folks would pay attention to the real problems and issues affecting america instead of making them up or dwelling on injustices that only exist in the mind of a few, some of whom make pretty good money off of perpetuating these myths we'd be in much better shape and probably more unifies once again.
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eden49:
I'll take a second and explain it.
Way back, Spain had claimed all of the land that is now California (and other states) as part of Nueva España, Then the colonists there rebelled and formed the "United States of Mexico", and for about 20+ years, Mexico included those states. They had a dictator by the name of Santa Ana whose policies caused open rebellion across Mexico and a bunch of Americans who had moved to the Texas area also rebelled. They were the ONLY rebels to succeed. They captured Santa Ana and should have executed him, but got him to agree to leave them alone, and let him go. He went back on his word, and was preparing to attack them. So the Texicans requested and were granted Statehood in the USA. Santa Ana continued to be belligerant and war broke out between the USA and Mexico. Mexico lost.
Mexico then had problems with a fellow named Maximillian, who took over with the help of Napoleon, and they rebelled and beat him, but of course they ended up deeply in debt due to the war. They sold the California territory to the USA to pay off their debts. And that's how we got our Western states.
In Mexico, they teach that the USA "stole" all that land. They also teach that they shold still have rights to that land, and that parts of it were the Aztec "holy land", Aztlan.
Now, there is no people in Latin America that is more Nationalistic than the Mexicans. No matter how bad things are there, they love their country. Good on 'em, I say.
But, when the Mexicans immigrate here, they bring a couple of notions with them. First, their intense national pride. SEcond, an inculcated resentment against the USA for "stealing their land", and third, local Hispanic groups have used propaganda to try to fan tensions over ethnicity and nationality, and to gain enough power that they can eliminate our immigration policies so as many Mexicans (and other nationalities) can move in as they want. Afterall, "they should own that land" is the mentality.
Which is why they make a big deal out of their 5 de Mayo celebration (which in Mexico is NOT a celebration, but a commemoration of the battle in Puebla when they defeated Maximillian's/Napoleon's army). The Mexicans in the USA have turned that day into something else, and they make a point of flying their flags and having cultural celebrations.
No problem with that, good on 'em. But some AMerican kids wanted to show their pride on the same day and it turned into a major conflict. The Mexican kids started to threaten violence and marches and riots, whatever. So now in California, the schools are super senstitive to the idea that a white kid flying an America flag is somehow "offensive" to the Mexicans.
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curtisreed:
...thanks for that, Curtis, really appreciate it...gives me a better insight...
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curtisreed:
really ironic, because the Mexican Americans I encountered (Veterans Day) in Austin and San Antonio are some of the most patriotic Americans in this nation, and they represent a disproportionate share of the military troops, on the ground, fighting this nation's never ending, empire-building battles. But nice history lesson curtis, well done.
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The boy has a RIGHT to fly that flag. The school board is violating the law. Hope his family sues the crap out of them.
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Enough of the Mexican and Arab nonsense. THIS IS AMERICA ,WE HAVE ONE FLAG. THE STARS AND STRIPES PERIOD. IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT GET THE HECK OUT OF OUR COUNTRY AND JUST GO HOME!
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The Mexican & Mexican-American brats in question need to get OVER their Mexican pride if they're going to live here & threaten those who have pride for the USA.
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I think Mexicans are in question because me being Mexican-American dont even kno my own roots. The fact that I forget how to speak spanish says it all
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randallr01:
dude, leave the Mexican Americans out of this. this is an issue that is being caused primarily by Mexican immigrants who are being encouraged to stir up trouble. I do not believe the majority of our Chicanos want them doing this crap.
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Joe_Medina:
You are right, Joe, I agree. The problem is among the immigrant communities, not our Mexican Americans (Chicanos), although sure there are some far left Chicanos who are stirring up trouble, but they are not representative of Chicanos as a whole, not by a long shot.
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randallr01:
I live in NYC and we see Mexican and Puerto Rican flags all the time and no one cares. Apparently people in California need to lighten the fuck up. It is a piece of fabric with a design. As long as people still have to have controversy about shit as dumb as this, Americans will never amount to anything great.
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Joe_Medina:
lo siento, que es muy triste.
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curtisreed:
Notice I used the blanket of "Mexican & Mexican-Americans." Most certainly there at least some of each group who are causing the trouble. My statement was perfect.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Eiq8z4cxLo
I couldn't resist. :D - 1 year ago
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randallr01:
Man I hope this "Dream Act" gets approved! Y, because I will choose to become a Marine.
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EdJoyProductions
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Racial tensions?! I need an explanation.
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EdJoyProductions:
Their dumb I bet they can't even explain it
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Joe_Medina:
I am just curious as to whether or not Fox made that part up.
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EdJoyProductions:
google it hun
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EdJoyProductions:
could be, if they took their cue from you. fuck i cant believe how you always attempt to find flaws in any story that involves patriotism and the freedom and rights of americans when their opinions differ from your own. the boy has a right. if it had been a rainbow flag or a flag of some other nationality no one would have had the balls to challenge it.
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congoboy:
Don't get your panties in a bunch, congo. :*
It is a valid question about Fox news possibly inciting racial tension. I am with you on the outrageousness of this action. There is no reason that I can understand for this boy to be forbidden to fly his American Flag from his bike on school property. If it is a "racial" problem, it is probably one that has been fabricated by the school administration.
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EdJoyProductions:
well not living in sac town i wouldnt know for sure. but im sure we can agree that racism does occasionally lift its ugly head. and it doesnt take a school district or a news organization to fabricate it. im glad to see the boy has your blessing though. btw, i like my panties in a bunch!
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congoboy:
The unfortunate reality is that much racism is incited with the slightest provocation by people that have a reason to prolong this distraction. I am not saying racism doesn't exist, but many times things are labelled as racist not because they actually are, but because it gets ratings
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congoboy:
PS. I am intrigued that you are into bunched panties. It gives you a whole new dimension. :D
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EdJoyProductions:
especially if theyre yours
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EdJoyProductions:
i would agree with that but you find it also, and maybe even more prevalent on left wing media.
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congoboy:
It is all media. Left and right slanted are all the same when it comes to ratings and why are you wearing my panties? :)
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EdJoyProductions:
they feel soft next to my skin
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EdJoyProductions:
did you notice it wasn't a fox news article? it came originally from KCRA-TV a local station, and I don't see ANY affiliation at that site.
http://www.kcra.com/news/25795718/detail.html
I do see that local bikers have joined his cause...
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has it ever occured to you, retread, that there are political reasons why some hispanic groups (such as MeCha and La Raza) want to exacerbate racial tensions, and it's NOT Fox? The boy didn't start anything, the Hispanic super intendent is the one that did.
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curtisreed:
The original account that I saw of this situation was a Fox report.
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Then the matter needs to be taken up with the superintendent. I am glad people are riding in support with the kid, but one superintendent's problem with this should not be treated like a bias incident. Dumb rule, dumb superintendent. The report seems to be rallying the troops of racists on both sides instead of just getting to a simple silly issue of a bad decision by a school official.
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EdJoyProductions:
I'm telling you, it's those bunched panties...puts people in a bad frame of mind..they just can't think straight. We need to organize a march for un-bunched panties too.
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I will get the tea partiers right on that. ; )
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Sacramento? wtf. when are schools gonna learn that when you make a big deal out of something it just gets bigger.
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i know right? but when you get a group of folks who are ultra liberal led by an ultra liberal union in an ultra liberal state like california what can you expect? had the kid been muslim flying an iranian flag or a mexican child flying mexico's colors there wouldn't have been a peep.
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Of course u cant patrionize America in Mexic...I mean California!
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...WTF...lost for words, I am...
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eden49:
i'm with you eden, only in america. oh yeah and europe too.
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it's legal to burn em but not fly em. now thats what i call fucked up
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congoboy:
Actually it is not illegal to burn or desecrate the flag. Damn liberals.
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ReverandG:
The Mexicans in Arizona do it all of the time. While Law Enforcment watches!
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