America: The Silence of a Nation (VIDEO)
source: http://globalpoliticalawakening.blogspot.com/2010/11/america-silence-of-nation-video.html
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dreamsenvoy
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he makes some interesting points
- 1 year ago
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dreamsenvoy
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Radical_Centrist
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The Palestinians have been under a Military Occupation for 43 years and 5 months. In that time period the Israelis have mascaraed surrendered Egyptian Soldiers in the Sinai & facilitated the MASS Murder of Palestinian Refugees in Lebanon. All the while helped along by the crooks in Washington. I think if you lived in the Middle East you would be hard pressed not to hate the United States and Israel.
- 1 year ago
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Radical_Centrist
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mik661
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Radical_Centrist:
Explain why you don't protest the action of Hezbollah against Christians and the elected leadership of Lebanon. Explain why you dont protest the actions of Iran against its own citizens. Explain why you don't protest the brutal actions of Egypt against Gaza and its own citizens. Its always about the Jews. The Palestinians have a homeland and its called Jordan. It was artificially created just as Israel as a homeland but it was not enough. They wanted all the land for themselves and insisted that the Jews were on THERE land. Not once have any of the Arab nations around Israel attempted to "liberate" Palestinians. There goal always was the destruction of Israel.
- 1 year ago
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mik661
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Radical_Centrist
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mik661:
One of the things defenders of Zionism like to do is practice the art of deflection. That is when we are talking about What Israel is doing to the Palestinians you all say, but wait a minute what about what so and so is doing to so and so. I would be MORE than Happy to discuss the transgressions of Hezbollah or any other group when you post an article about them. Right now we are discussing the Zionists in Israel treatment of the OCCUPIED Palestinians.
- 1 year ago
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Radical_Centrist
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freecrack
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Radical_Centrist:
really?
how many idf military bases in the west bank?
is it they are oppressed by the threat of military occupation from next door, being as no military presence has excersised authority in the bank?
do people under military occupation often have free elections, and independant governments?hezzbollah have killed more than israel, and still continue to do so, yet it is israel who is the problem?
israel would never have killed any egyptian,syrians,or jordanians had they not attacked (in unison) israel.its kind of what war yields.why not be upset at nations who demand war/deathover the diplomacy israel seeks?
- 1 year ago
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freecrack
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freecrack
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Radical_Centrist:
no one is deflecting at all, just taking your premise of "death of innocents as a call to criticism" and asking why it is one sided.not deflecting, or even denying the blood that israel has on her hands. just asking why her killings are so bother some, and the killing carried out by others not even note worthy?
right now we are discussing a video that is classic antisemitic propaganda using israel as the means of spreading its hatred of the jews.you personaly brought up the occupation, and all the suffering israel has dealt out to the palestinians as the point of contention for you.
all mik661 and i are asking, is if the human suffering at hand warrants these responses from you, why is it one sided?
the israeli treatment of palestinians doesnt exist in a vaccum.it is inseperable from palestinian treatment of israeli citizens.not deflecting, or obfuscating, or pulling any bullshit play.just asking why an oppressed palestinian is so bother some, while an oppressed jew is not?
why is the palestinian family left homeless by this conflict a human rights violation, and the israeli citizens left homeless acceptable?
why is it when the gazans launch rockets a jews, is it freedom fighting, but when israel launches rockets at them it isnt defending thier freedom?why does equal accountability not apply when discussing this issue?
- 1 year ago
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freecrack
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mik661
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Radical_Centrist:
Occupied by Hamas and other tools of Iran. As I recall, Gaza and the West Bank do not have Israelis occupying them. They do have a few terrorist organizations though that managed to take over the governing of Gaza because the PLO was so incredibly corrupt. Are you so naive as too think that if Israel gave them everything they wanted that anything would change significantly? The outside powers using Gaza as their proxy would simply generate some other conflict to justify their actions.
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mik661
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freecrack
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ask yourself one question when watching this video.
if the holocaust serves no purpose in validating israel, why would it serve a purpose in demonizing her?if the critique is truly based on pointing out the flaws in a government, why does the holocaust even get mentioned? as it has absolutely nothing to do with israel.it makes it about bashing jews, not a government, no?
- 1 year ago
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freecrack
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Prijedor
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freecrack:
Just Shut the fuck up
- 1 year ago
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Prijedor
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freecrack
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Prijedor:
hey, stop the vieled antisemitism under the guise of governmental criticism, and i have no call to speak.
thanks for your insightfull reply.way to go in exposing the error in my post.did you really take the time to type that? really? of all the things you could say, shut the fuck up is what seemed appropriate?just sad for you really, if we are gunna make this all personal.
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freecrack
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freecrack
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same retarded bullshit that has been pushed, and proven wrong by real events for the last half century.
it forgets that this theory holds no water, as israel attacked gaza once in the last decade, compared to over then thousand attacks from hamas.
it forgets egypt holds a border with gaza as well, making this not an israeli issue alone, as usual when demonizing israel via exploiting the gazas.
it forgets that gaza is autonomous only because israel granted them autonomy for nothing in return.just the hopes of peace.
it forgets that all the suffering on the part of the gazans depicted, are also suffered by the israelis.
it forgets that israeli kids, and thier parents suffer the same from being attacked.it exploits the holocaust, as antisemitism always does.
but most importantly above all else, it forgets that this entire schpeal, showing how israel is commiting the most hienous prejudiial racialy biased attacks on the palestinians, isnt happening in the west bank.just gaza.
it forgets to mention the west bank, as the west bank's existence, and treatment in action disproves his entire premise.
israel is commiting a genocide on the palestinians, as long as you pretend egypt doesnt exist, the west bank doesnt exist, and hamas doesnt exist.in that framework israel is commiting horrific travesties.but in reality, the west bank does exist, egypt exists, and hamas exists, making israel behaiving as any nation would with an overtly actively hostile nieghbor, committed to destruction.
- 1 year ago
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freecrack