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Americans Have Worst Standard of Living in the Developed World

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GLOBALPOLITICAL
Americans, I have some bad news for you:

You have the worst quality of life in the developed world – by a wide margin.

If you had any idea of how people really lived in Western Europe, Australia, New Zealand, Canada and many parts of Asia, you’d be rioting in the streets calling for a better life. In fact, the average Australian or Singaporean taxi driver has a much better standard of living than the typical American white-collar worker.

I know this because I am an American, and I escaped from the prison you call home.

I have lived all around the world, in wealthy countries and poor ones, and there is only one country I would never consider living in again: The United States of America. The mere thought of it fills me with dread.

Consider this: you are the only people in the developed world without a single-payer health system. Everyone in Western Europe, Japan, Canada, Australia, Singapore and New Zealand has a single-payer system. If they get sick, they can devote all their energies to getting well. If you get sick, you have to battle two things at once: your illness and the fear of financial ruin. Millions of Americans go bankrupt every year due to medical bills, and tens of thousands die each year because they have no insurance or insufficient insurance. And don’t believe for a second that rot about America having the world’s best medical care or the shortest waiting lists: I’ve been to hospitals in Australia, New Zealand, Europe, Singapore, and Thailand, and every one was better than the “good” hospital I used to go to back home. The waits were shorter, the facilities more comfortable, and the doctors just as good.

This is ironic, because you need a good health system more than anyone else in the world. Why? Because your lifestyle is almost designed to make you sick.

Let’s start with your diet: Much of the beef you eat has been exposed to fecal matter in processing. Your chicken is contaminated with salmonella. Your stock animals and poultry are pumped full of growth hormones and antibiotics. In most other countries, the government would act to protect consumers from this sort of thing; in the United States, the government is bought off by industry to prevent any effective regulations or inspections. In a few years, the majority of all the produce for sale in the United States will be from genetically modified crops, thanks to the cozy relationship between Monsanto Corporation and the United States government. Worse still, due to the vast quantities of high-fructose corn syrup Americans consume, fully one-third of children born in the United States today will be diagnosed with Type 2 diabetes at some point in their lives.

Of course, it’s not just the food that’s killing you, it’s the drugs. If you show any sign of life when you’re young, they’ll put you on Ritalin. Then, when you get old enough to take a good look around, you’ll get depressed, so they’ll give you Prozac. If you’re a man, this will render you chemically impotent, so you’ll need Viagra to get it up. Meanwhile, your steady diet of trans-fat-laden food is guaranteed to give you high cholesterol, so you’ll get a prescription for Lipitor. Finally, at the end of the day, you’ll lay awake at night worrying about losing your health plan, so you’ll need Lunesta to go to sleep.

With a diet guaranteed to make you sick and a health system designed to make sure you stay that way, what you really need is a long vacation somewhere. Unfortunately, you probably can’t take one. I’ll let you in on little secret: if you go to the beaches of Thailand, the mountains of Nepal, or the coral reefs of Australia, you’ll probably be the only American in sight. And you’ll be surrounded crowds of happy Germans, French, Italians, Israelis, Scandinavians and wealthy Asians. Why? Because they’re paid well enough to afford to visit these places AND they can take vacations long enough to do so. Even if you could scrape together enough money to go to one of these incredible places, by the time you recovered from your jetlag, it would time to get on a plane and rush back to your job.

If you think I’m making this up, check the stats on average annual vacation days by country:

Finland: 44
Italy: 42
France: 39
Germany: 35
UK: 25
Japan: 18
USA: 12

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232 comments // Americans Have Worst Standard of Living in the Developed World

  • Gravity_Man
  • GLOBALPOLITICAL
  • MotherForTruth
  • navider
  • sdsdfkwpeofk
  • bombastinator
  • a619ko
  • Nick_Stadelman
  • Gravity_Man
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      Gravity_Man  
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    • Nick_Stadelman:

      In the Olden Days you reached down and pulled the bones til they reset and wrapped em. It isn't always desirable to do if it's really splintered up. I ran a garden tiller once in some really hard ground and didn't realize the damage it was doing to my palms. Both blistered and then all the skin layers separated and I was looking at the lining over the muscle.

      I took a sewing needle and sewing thread and did it myself although I will add that about 15 or so years later one palm the skin turned a little white from some germ had got in there so I went to a doctor then. He asked me so I told him. He didn't like what I said. Tough.

      Nowadays I take a lot extra nutrition and my body heals itself faster than germs can kill me. I've stopped MRSA twice, Lyme's twice, several cancers, and I'm pretty sure I got hit with spinal meningitis. My Immune System is pumped up with oxygen down the carburetor. When germs get inside me they're in for the fight of their life, which is something I had to do since all my doctors stopped giving me antibiotics 6 years ago.

      I got too old to bother keeping around. My cancer information is on my homepage if you'd like to read it. Doctors hereabouts are totally bent into a pretzel that I've told people how to make them obsolete on their big money-go-round revolving door medical system => http://www.newpath4.com/ .

    • 1 year ago
  • Gravity_Man
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      Gravity_Man  
    • Americans always come back! We're the Comeback Kid. Eat our dust rest of the world! We're Gene Autry and Audie Murphy, we're Clayton Moore & Jay Silverheels. We're the Righteous Brothers! Sam Cooke, the Blues Brothers => Jake and Elwood. Sci-Fi, if we hadn't made it YOU wouldn't have it! When you were in diapers we had Orson Welles marching Martian giants through New Jersey in 1938 FYI.

      We're William Bendix and Madge. We don't take vacations because WE don't want vacations and WE don't need no stinkin' vacations anyway. We get all the vacation time we need watching multiple vacation shows on Cable TV. hahahaha We multitask our vacations.

      You imbeciles take one while we sandwich together 5.

      Americans take the Olympic Gold in Vacations!

      The rest of ya are the LOSERS.

    • 1 year ago
  • weewah
  • olddogdaddy
  • MotherForTruth
  • Gravity_Man
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      Gravity_Man  
    • MotherForTruth:

      The Bible tells us during this time of world decline "all nations will stream to the mountain of Jehovah". Obviously not every person but people from every nation and skin color are learning about that "mountain". Mountains in Bible Prophecy refers to governments.

      Soon things are to worsen and Jesus said people would cry out to the mountains to cover them. What that really means is they would be crying out to their respective governments for help. Most people here on Current appear to be choosing that option.

      The winner will be the kingdom [government] of God; see Daniel 2 vs 44. This action will usher in and result in World Peace.

    • 1 year ago
  • southrabbit
  • ezrierin
    • +2
      ezrierin  
    • southrabbit:

      Russia never needed to invade us. Even now, the Russian economy is heading for better times then ours. And why? Because the Russians are not afraid of adequate socialism even after the fall of communism. Like universal health care for all, a livable government retirement, virtually free education, controlled capitalism etc. Yet some will say that Russians have very little democracy in their country. I do not see much difference between their democratic system and ours. Both our peoples have little say so in our governments. However, they use socialism to manage capitalism and government; we allow capitalism to own our government. There people will soon have a higher standard of living then us, while we become a capitalist third world country. So I ask you, who really won the Cold War in the end?

    • 1 year ago
  • MotherForTruth
  • ezrierin
    • +3
      ezrierin  
    • Sung to the tune of, the Star Spangle Banner:
      Oh say can you see
      Americans are dummies
      Middle class they pay
      While wealthy laugh all day
      Whose bright founders we hail
      Unread masses we fail
      We think money is king
      In constitution no such thing
      And the bombast right wing
      Depression is there thing
      Will bring us to our knees till our daughters bob for pennies
      Oh say does this verse seem too hard for you to understa..and
      That’s because you are a slave in this corporate enclave

    • 1 year ago
  • hideyhooo
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      hideyhooo  
    • OH how I PITY you sir. I live in Ecuador, a country in South America and it is FAR from what you say is "beautiful" about countries outside of the U.S. In this country, you are LUCKY if the ambulance arrives an hour or so after an accident has happened. The health industry is just a business for most where you get lied to and get told that you are suffering from something so severe that if you don't pay up you will DIE. There are children out on the streets selling candy to on coming vehicles instead of being in school. The police is paid up by others to cover themselves up. Laws are never applied here.
      I find your research to truly be superficial because I'm sure that with some $$$ any gringo can feel like they live in paradise in a country outside of the U.S. Try living in these countries without any money or jobs and you will see why there are so many illegal immigrants in the U.S. Next month I am moving back to the U.S. because so far I have been living here for 3 years and I, from TRUE experience, will tell you that all of you who complain about America need a wake up call and try to live in a different country. Sure America has its flaws, but be happy that you get so many more opportunities. If you don't take advantage of them, that's your own fault.

    • 1 year ago
  • Sarah_Honea
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      Sarah_Honea  
    • If you want to blame the liberals that are here today. fine, not those of the 50's, 60's, and 70's. Those cats knew what freedom meant and took action. Liberals of today, weak and inoffensive by comparison. Those who follow the ethos of Civil Rights, and Justice, take it to heart and act--- are marginalized as 'radicals' and 'nut jobs'.The college students like Goodman, Cheney, and Schwerner would be seen as Nut jobs worthy of derision on MSM even the left these days would not come to there defense- for fear of funding cuts.

      I'd say look at our education system. There is zero critical thinking skills being administered within the curriculum in K-12. education. When the kids/my peers for now get to college there is either a disconnect, or a continuation of no critical thinking training. Nixon and Regan, Clinton and Bush took notice and pushed forward with their antithetical practices within education. More testing, less learning. Knowledge comes at a premium these days, understanding is an endangered species, and wisdom is all but extinct.

      This 'armchair' you speak of has been here on both sides of the aisle. All to often it is meant to polarize. You, everyone else, and I on this post speak of symptoms and not causes.In deference to the ills that we are experiencing in one form or another, one problem at at time. What is lost is the big picture.

      Big Picture: Our country is in decline,

      The Prussian Method, where skills to grist the machine of progress are held above thought and critical thinking are the new maxim in education, high or lower learning. By design, lack of funding-whatever. imagine the 18-30 somethings running the country when the 35-60 year old population has entered the 'Golden Years of their/your lives. I am even scared to reconnoiter here. And I am 26.

      We are guilty of being tied to the .TV where House and Glee, and Madmen are the sole occupation for many in our country. i love Hugh Laurie's work. Back When he was in Black Adder and Jeeves and Wooster. You want to know why Ask Jeeves is . Watch Jeeves and Wooster...a hint of a bigger problem: Short term memory, which the TV has been documented inducing when you watch TV it bypasses parts of your brain that are responsible for critical thinking and long term memory storage.

      TV was a treat for the few or those with paper money to got to the drive in movies. It was an ornament not a centerpiece. Now the internet has become the new bread and circus--both bread and circus. That is what is dangerous about Media, that is what Edward R Murrow was warning was about in the 1950's. What Hunter S. Thompson was getting at in Fear and Loathing. It was not just the drugs-[you know gonzo journalism] it was the outlandish behavior as metaphor for a grimmer subject.

      Our collective praying at the Altar of some crooner of today or yesteryear. taking insane delight in the tools of war as both aphrodisiac and play thing-disconnected from the reality of what war is. It is carnage, pain, suffering-pointless. The liberals bought Leary's dream, to the detriment of all.We lost the battle then but the war rages on.

      Only the powerful few may profit from war, them and them only. peace through war is an Orwellian concept. Listen to the lyrics of Black Sabbath;s War Pigs-We are living it. Better yet Creams 'Politician' If you have the heart or the time: JFK's commencement speech to American University June 10 1963, eight months after the Cuban Missile Crisis, and five months before his assassination.

      The Republicans since WWI have been itching for a war that they can be proud of out of the bizarre inferiority complex. They are supposed to be the Party of GUNS and Missiles-Biblical Justice and Whoop ass. Well every engagement in war that a Republican has headed has ended in disaster and in Eisenhower's case: stalemate. they are pissed at Woodrow and Delano the Cripple for out Hoohah-ing them.

      I am not saying this for polarity but there are elements on both sides with something to prove and they will with us as their pawns because behind them is old money and powerful families that could give a rats ass about us. What the party does in deference to culture wars and pissing contests is just icing on their cake.

      Both Parties are at best Schizophrenic and Borderline at worst. Never trust them.

      We are in the Matrix now- where we are disconnected for the reality of our collective actions by not taking them. whether by choice or ignorance.

      The moment we all turn off the computer, the TV, the propaganda to do something is the first day of the rest of your life and mine. till then, Where ever you go-there you are

    • 1 year ago
  • kennymotown
    • +2
      kennymotown  
    • It is truly a sad state of affairs! I believe the 2008 was more about really changing the health care system for the benefit of every one, but all we got was
      a bunch of hand fed bird chirping lemmings on the right to cloud the issue and make sure nothing really changed. It looks like a lot of good Americans have moved out of the country because the idiots on the right are fucking up the country so bad, they don't even realize they are being played by the rich. Single payer would have been the best thing to spark the economy, allowing people too start new businesses by venturing out on their own without the worry of not having a corporate insurance plan.

    • 1 year ago
  • Billy_Goodreasonnews
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      Billy_Goodreasonnews  
    • Eh, even a die-hard, blame-America-first, anti-corporate, pro-universal health care, liberal like me thinks this is a load of baloney. All this anti-medical, food-conspiracy, over-drugged nonsense is so full of flaws and half-truths I wouldn't even know where to begin to dissect it.

      You at once condemn the U.S. government for under-regulating the food industry and over-regulating the drug industry. Although, you probably don't realize you're condemning the over-regulation of the drug industry because you failed to acknowledge how woefully underrated the drug industries of other countries are.

      You criticize the drugs that are available like Ritalin and Lunesta based mostly on a pop culture, stand up comedy analysis of them, but have you provided any actual hard data about these medications? A writer named Judith Warner, who on the outset of writing her book "We've Got Issues" would have agreed with this armchair analysis, ended up doing a complete 180 because, gasp, she actually studied the issue.

      It's liberals like these that make cross-the-aisle conversations so difficult. Liberals think conservatives are all Glenn 'herp' Beck and Sarah 'derp' Palin and conservatives think liberals are all this nonsense.

    • 1 year ago
  • LinXitoW
  • MotherForTruth
  • simplecj
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      simplecj  
    • Wow... this kinda said a lot of what I've been thinking. I've had friends that have moved to Germany, Mexico and South Korea. All of them say they loved it there and didn't want to come back to the US. My friend who went to Mexico was just saying he hurt his back and was laying there wishing he was in Mexico so he could afford to see a doctor.

      I'm "lucky" enough to has some insurance threw my company, but it doesn't cover enough of the huge amounts that can be charged for medical services. I'm constantly worried about a severe injury or illness leading me to financial ruin. Even if I got laid off, the unemployment that I would get would not be enough to pay my bills. I just finished 6 years of math and physics classes to land a planning engineer job for a local aerospace manufacturer, for the grim wage of $12/hr. I recently read an article that said for here in Utah, you have to make $14/hr just to be able to live comfortably and pay your bills (basically just above poverty). I do the process engineering for government aircraft (big money) and have a BS in engineering, yet somehow I'm still being paid at the poverty level??? I have no idea how everyone here manages to make ends meet, $12/hr isn't bad for my town, most jobs are min wage, which only recently went up to $7.25, I think it was $6.15 before that.

      Maybe I should start looking to travel abroad, but like you said in your post, I'm not even sure how I'm going to afford to move to another state for better work, let alone be able to move out of the country... where would I go anyways?

    • 1 year ago
  • LinXitoW
    • +1
      LinXitoW  
    • simplecj:

      Germany is always looking for engineers and otherwise qualified immigrants.

      "new immigration categories like the ones for highly skilled professionals and scientists have been introduced to attract valuable professionals for the German labour market. The development within German immigration law clearly shows that immigration of skilled employees and academics is eased" -wiki

    • 1 year ago
  • beautifulmiddlefinger
  • good_stuff
  • freecrack
  • GLOBALPOLITICAL
    • -5
      GLOBALPOLITICAL  
    • Why do so many discussions on this and other sites break down into left vs.right. When will people realize that the international bankers want us fighting about anything other than the fact that they are deliberately destroying our country. They are stealing the property and wealth of the nation.

      As a homosexual, I will be the first to argue with anyone about gay rights; however, I am willing to join people who may not agree with me in order to fight the biggest threat to our freedoms today; the international bankers.

      The false left/right paradigm was deliberately constructed to divide the masses. Bill Clinton's mentor, Carroll Quigley, wrote about the origins of the false left/right paradigm in his book, Tragedy & Hope. Note: Carol Quigley was an insider.

      Carol Quigley wrote:

      "The argument that the two parties should represent opposed ideals and policies, one perhaps of the Right, and the other of the Left, is a foolish idea acceptable only to doctrinaire and academic thinkers. Instead, the two parties should be almost identical, so that the American people can 'throw the rascals out' at any election without leading to any profound or extensive shifts in policy.... [E]ither party in office becomes in time corrupt, tired, unenterprising, and vigorless. Then it should be possible to replace it, every four years if necessary, by the other party, which will be none of these things but will still pursue, with new vigor, approximately the same policies."

      Watch Ron Paul exposing the fallacy of the left/right paradigm in the video posted above.

      Ron Paul for President 2012!

    • 1 year ago
  • toastyguy11
  • beautifulmiddlefinger
  • oppressed1
    • -9
      oppressed1  
    • Im in the military, and i can tell yo ufirst hand that some of these countries that are supposably better in living is an all out lie. Canada??? Are you kidding me. Germany??? Other than the beer and sluts i would never live there full time.

    • 1 year ago
  • mastroiannic
    • -2
      mastroiannic  
    • I like my home state of Massachusetts, because of it's history, pride, friends, family, and everything I've experienced there. I love it's geography and seasons and I could pick apart everything good about the state and be jolly for it. That doesn't mean that it's a perfect state, there is a host of things wrong with that state, the Big Dig? is a big sink hole, filled with corruption. I'm not a fan of the forced healthcare there, I found it was cheaper just for me to pay for clinics for check ups and at the onset of an issue then having to pay for insurance, which requires co-pays anyway, and (i'm gonna stop before I get carried away on the money making scheme called healthcare, in my opinion). I was a teacher part time for 8 months, and to my surprise, the school system took out swing-sets?! For real, cause it's a liability apparently. The city I was from had a representative that was caught stealing for years, taxes are high, greedy wealthy people don't want their tax dollars going towards community programs, what was once open after dark (or at least not enforced) like all all highshool tracks are now monitored by rentacops. The thing is, I've also been around the states, because of work I've had in music, and for the past few years I've been in the military. I don't want to be in the current state I'm in right now (New Mexico), cause it's not home for me, but that doesn't mean that this state doesn't have a few things going for it that I'd like to bring back home. The same with other places I've been.

      The way I see it, America is supposed to stand for a lot of things amazing, and we haven't been, because of a take it or leave it attitude by the zealots, because of unchecked corruption, and because of the geopolitical corporate take over. If you live here and you once loved or still love America, or if you hate this place, or if you see it like I do and think that America should be amazing, like everywhere on Earth should be amazing, then how is it wrong not to always be identifying issues and correcting them? Without making a comparision as a whole to any other countries, just like in world sports and alcohols, different people have different things they do differently, and sometimes better. If there is a country out there with the best healthcare system economically for it's people, then I want that. If there is a country with a best quality healthcare, then I want to merge both as effectively as possible. I work in a medical career field, I can say first hand that from my experience, this is about medical management for the profit of individuals over the needs of the people. It is not wrong by any means to want to live well, which means one (in our capitalist nation) has to make a profit, but as the gap between the ultra rich and everyone else widens, at what point is our standard of living impacted? Clearly as a margin is increased, there will be two points, one of those points is getting farther from the others point. I don't care if other countries are better on some chart then we are, I care when our citizins stop trying to keep things here from being perfect. What's the point of living if your going to let yourself get obese, and life becomes about whats happening on a TV show. If your religious, all texts say to take care of the Earth and each other in order to get to respective afterlives (let's leave out the strife over different religions for a second, cause assuming there was only one religion still on Earth, at that point we'd still have to do those other things in the texts to get to a positive afterlife, like taking care of other good people and the Earth). If you're not religious, or even atheist, then apparently your time is shorter so you better make things good for you or your offspring anyway. If you just hate life (not ignorant of life, those people can still be changed), if you actually hate life, you probably aren't reading this anyhow, but those people who hate life, or think their life is worth a bunch of mansions and having more property and wealth and power at the expense of others... F. U., die, not too many people like that actually exist comparatively, however those people unfortunately hold a lot of cards.y

      I think I got off track. Listen, if something works somewhere else, we should be collaborating to make it work for us as well. I don't hate other countries for doing things better sometimes, I want to adopt anything that works and plagiarize the minor or major successes different countries have. You'd have to be a an effin moron to think that somewhere there isn't a person or country that doesn't do something positive better then we do here in America. Instead of getting all defensive about it, I want to know exactly what it is that made that person, or process, or system work so that us Americans can make America more awesome. But we don't do that here, we compare and pretend that everything is 1 or 0, black or white, yes or no, left or right. That's not constructive at all. I want every country to be part of a global community competing but collaborating amicably to be the most developed, for the sake of humanity. As an American, I hope we get the gold every time. Right now, we're all fighting over crap. As an American, if you believe in something, use the system, vote on issues that matter, and vote with your wallet. Ultimately the people with money win, so make sure the good ones have the money to win the legal battles that make the differences in our lives.

      If I were to write a part two to this comment I'd get into all the ideas I have on how and where to spend money so that the right individuals, businesses and agencies have the means to fight the less altruistic ones, but please get curious and start figuring that out for yourself for now.

      Lastly, one of the things that I've noticed about some foreigners who come here; is that they see how complacent and lazy... or just ignorant (cause there are some very hard working, but totally clueless) people here can be, and of course their gonna love it. We take all kinds of things for granted, a bunch of these people come here and start living well real fast cause they see how easy it is to do better then us by putting in effort. In many developed countries, sure, you can live okay, but not like a king because the competition is high. Here, come here and just climb on past the competition like nothing. Even within the service there is a program I'm in all likely-hood gonna get just for meeting the minimum requirements because people have been too lazy to strive towards the goal. In years past according to the data I read there was a board that reviewed everyone's submissions because so many people attempted to get into this program. Now, as long as I meet the basic requirements, due to hardly anyone trying, I'm almost guaranteed my slot by that same, probably pretty bored board. There is a lack of trying in this country, a lot of people wanting things for nothing. Knowledge & effort are what made Americans great, now we're being taken over by savy power hoarding freaks, and it's just getting easier for them to take down our quality of life for their own gains. I refuse to believe that we can't always be striving to be collectively, humanely the best. That's the sport I play, it's the only game I enjoy.

    • 1 year ago
  • xiaoqinhhq
  • remanns
  • xidcat
    • +4
      xidcat  
    • The general gist is true. Some things, like the meds is a bit over the top. I agree with the writer on vacations, med care and unhealthy diet. I was in the US military for 26 years, lived overseas for 24 of them. We retired to the US and it sucked soooo bad. We bailed out after 5 years and moved back to Thailand (wife is Thai, but is a naturalized citizen).

      Everything in the US is rush rush, hurry here, do this, do that. I teach English a few hours a day, take the bus or walk. I dropped 30 pounds, cholestrol down from 200+, blood pressure down to slighly lower than normal. And I don't pay an arm and leg for "diet" foods, pay extra because it's low fat/cholesterol/trans fatty whatever. I eat for about $5 a day and eat well. I walk into the hospital when I want and I don't wait. The care is actually better because the doctor's aren't overloaded and booked in 15 minute blocks. America is my home always will be, but it was killing me....

    • 1 year ago
  • irie_ojo
  • bombastinator
  • bombastinator
    • 0
      bombastinator  
    • This person seems to be writing the article as if he is the only person to ever have left the United States. Some pretty big assumptions are made here.

      I notice a few flaws in his logic.

      1) The single payer statement is patently false. Yes most countries do have it. Yes it works a lot better by every measure possible to make, but it's not everywhere. The new Obama model that is probably going to be taken down by the republicans was based on the Swiss system. Which is in Western Europe if not actually part of the EU. Other developed countries one might look at include Korea and Japan. IIRC they're not single payer either.

      2) the phrase "standard of living" is a technical term which is derived from income, and has nothing to do with how many vacation days one gets in a year.
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_of_living
      One could just as easily randomly talk about living space square footage, and what percentage of people own their own homes. In most of Europe owning one's own home is a rarity.

      This reads much more like a rant than a news article. The dude really needs to check his facts.

    • 1 year ago
  • irie_ojo
    • +1
      irie_ojo  
    • bombastinator:

      I dont disagree with you but you cant say that this guy needs to check his facts when you posted a wikipedia link to back up your point......... people can write anything they want on wikipedia.

    • 1 year ago
  • bombastinator
    • -1
      bombastinator  
    • irie_ojo:

      People, can and have defaced wikipedia entries before, but they usually get corrected pretty fast. Wikipedia tends to have the most inaccuracy problems when dealing with biographies of living people. Simple shit like the definition of a word is not usually an issue.

      If you'd like I can find a different dictionary definition but it will probably just say the same thing.

    • 1 year ago
  • irie_ojo
  • bombastinator
  • hammywill
  • bombastinator
    • 0
      bombastinator  
    • hammywill:

      true in so much as they borrow money to buy them, but they also by that definition own at least part of them. Which is much different from renting, or buying a flat (condo in British) Single family homes are often a rarity in the more urban parts of Europe, and very much so in Japan.

    • 1 year ago
  • toastyguy11
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      toastyguy11  
    • The US is pretty messed up, no arguments here, but at the same time I can't really take too much bitching, you people should travel more, it could be much, much worse. I'm all for constructive criticism, but I have a hard time feeling sorry for people in the United States when there's people in other countries that have it so much worse and are much more optimistic than we are. I mean c'mon now, you still have free schools, you probably eat more than one or two meals a day, you can go to college with student loans, you can afford a car and there are roads to drive it on, we have a strong currency, not every small town here is run by gangsters, we have freedom of speech, we can vote, you all have the internet and a computer, there is also social security, you can pay rent even with a minimum wage job. Let's stick to the constructive talk and keep off the whining.

    • 1 year ago
  • harleyblueswoman
    • +3
      harleyblueswoman  
    • toastyguy11:

      where can you pay rent at on a minimum wage job? You might get the rent paid but then the utilities, groceries, gas, car, insurance, etc all are behind....when was the last time you tried to live on minimum wages? oh and not everyone has a computer and the internet....cause if you are really making minimum wages....you can't afford it!!!...and the car you drive probably aint worth crap either, that is if you can even afford one to begin with!!

    • 1 year ago
  • toastyguy11
    • +2
      toastyguy11  
    • harleyblueswoman:

      I live in Bellingham WA, I'm a student, I live below the poverty line, I make minimum wage, work about 30 hours a week and I'm able to pay rent and utilities. I ride my bike and take the bus and I'm a vegetarian so I buy beans and rice in bulk, very cheap and healthy, I also have a plot in a community garden in the warmer season. It would be hard to support a family on minimum wage, I'm not arguing that, and I'm not saying you can buy a car on minimum wage easily either, even though most people have one, but if you make minimum wage like me and don't drive, then you won't be making a car payment, or paying insurance. I have two roomates who I share a house with so rent is cheap. This is what I'm talking about, Americans aren't willing to live cheaply and within their means because we have this idea that everyone NEEDS a car, or that everyone NEEDS to eat meat and processed foods, or NEEDS to buy new clothes and crap all the time. Even the way I live is much better off than most of the world, so it comes off as whiny for me to complain about it. Should we make things better? yes of course, but we don't need to pretend like we're all starving here.

    • 1 year ago
  • hammywill
    • +2
      hammywill  
    • toastyguy11:

      Agreed!! Very succinct statement. I was in the Navy for a number of years and was lucky enough to see some of the most impoverished areas on Earth. I say lucky enough because now it almost seems laughable when someone talks about poverty in the United States.....I agree with you, should we work to make things better? Yes, absolutely...are corporations lying, thieving, greedy assholes? Yes, absolutely...but don't sit there in your lazy-boy watching football talking about how bad things are...if you are not willing to sacrifice in order to make them better,,,than you are simply a blob of fat with a mouth...useless.

    • 1 year ago
  • GLOBALPOLITICAL
  • hammywill
  • toastyguy11
  • hammywill
    • +1
      hammywill  
    • toastyguy11:

      I do too, which is the only reason I do not laugh. Since I also realize that poverty is subjective. Being homeless in New York in the winter is deadly...so, one has to realize the plight of the poor in the US...but keep it in perspective as a whole.

    • 1 year ago
  • MotherForTruth
    • +1
      MotherForTruth  
    • toastyguy11:

      You describing a life of a young student, single, healthy and responsible only for your wellbeing. Once you have a family, care for the elder parents, fear your medical bills and college tuitions for your children all at once you will be able to see the majority do not look for the luxuries but provide for their children education, ability to afford eye glasses, dentures, and medications for the old age.

    • 1 year ago
  • toastyguy11
    • -1
      toastyguy11  
    • MotherForTruth:

      I realize that, but we have some programs, even if they need to be improved, to help with things like that, whereas in third world countries they don't. there is a reason people in those countries have big families, it's because they need several people'
      s incomes just to survive

    • 1 year ago
  • bombastinator
  • bombastinator
  • MotherForTruth
  • Penelope03
  • Varex_Sythe
    • 0
      Varex_Sythe  
    • Penelope03:

      Unfortunately, the citizens of the United States are often self described as "Americans" because we don't know what else to call ourselves and we really don't like the sound of "United Statesians."

    • 1 year ago
  • bombastinator
  • Varex_Sythe
    • -1
      Varex_Sythe  
    • bombastinator:

      But the "A" is an unnecessary redundancy, unless there is another nation on this planet that calls itself the United States. Likewise, we don't have "The Canadian Providences of America" as a nation nor do we have "The Mexico of America," we have Canada and Mexico.

    • 1 year ago
  • Gravity_Man
    • -1
      Gravity_Man  
    • Varex_Sythe:

      The Internet has shrunken-headed the present world, so in a shrunken-headed world yes it is a redundancy, but in pre-Internet times so long, long ago people would refer to "the Americas" as in North versus South America. In that time from 1492 til 1990 it wasn't so redundant.

      You're correct because we don't live in 1492. We're advanced Homo Sapiens now. We've advanced so far, in fact, we automatically know which continent we are on w/out adding "of America". For the record I usually use US but sometimes I use periods when I want to make a clear and present danger point => U.S.

      Adding "of America" is a gluttonous waste of good electrons.

    • 1 year ago
  • Gravity_Man
    • -1
      Gravity_Man  
    • Varex_Sythe:

      All of which means all that time we were calling ourselves by a Slanged Name. We lopped off the North part. We rejected the Queen's English. Technically we should've been calling ourself the United States of North America. Perhaps in the good old ANALOG days [we all so surely miss] we were saving on Ink & Paper.

    • 1 year ago
  • bombastinator
    • -1
      bombastinator  
    • Varex_Sythe:

      So you are arguing that the name of one of the largest countries of the world should be changed for grammatical reasons, ignoring history entirely, and you are so sure of this you are actually using it as a past argument to make other points?!

      do recall that when the USA rebelled it was the only official country in the continents. Canada was a British colony, and the rest of North and South America belonged to the Spanish Empire, except for a few bits belonging to Portugal.

    • 1 year ago
  • Gravity_Man
    • -1
      Gravity_Man  
    • bombastinator:

      EXACTLY!!! And THAT explains why the US is so far ahead of every other country in the World =>>> they were behind us back then and they're still behind us TODAY, and they'll still be behind us Foehvuh.

      We lead the pack.

      We're so great we can misspell our own name!!!

      We're the greatest, We're the greatest, We're the greatest.

      If we stopped buying that Chinese garbage China would fall and crack all over the floor because that's what China always does. They're only at the top as long as we keep them there. When the US pulls the rug out from under the China you gonna hear China busting up all over the kitchen floor!

    • 1 year ago
  • Varex_Sythe
    • -1
      Varex_Sythe  
    • bombastinator:

      No, I'm not arguing that the name should be changed for grammatical reasons, ignoring history entirely. And I'm not sure what other points I would make off of this argument, nor do I think I've made any... I pointed something else out, something about what the two other nations of the North American continent are named; however, what I pointed out was not intended to build something else off of my original point, but was meant to back up the original point.

      And yes I recall that the United States was the first official nation of the American continents. So what? Were the other colonies from other nations going under the title of United States?

      By the way, the the French also colonized parts of what is Canada today. France colonized and/or explored a lot more of Canada before the English, before the United States gained it's independence.

    • 1 year ago
  • bombastinator
    • -1
      bombastinator  
    • Varex_Sythe:

      every other country at the time had an actual name and was not described as a collection of states. if they simply said "united states' no one would have known what they meant. Keep in mind At the time this was a form of government that hadn't been tried in over a thousand years. Everyone still had kings. the russian Czarist system was considered extremely progressive.

    • 1 year ago
  • bombastinator
  • Gravity_Man
    • 0
      Gravity_Man  
    • bombastinator:

      Obama is just letting THEM think that. He toys with them a cat to a mouse. They're ours any time we want.

      You don't actually think the Chinese are SMART, do you? They dammed up a major river that its resulting lake crushed the ground and caused a giant EARTH QUAKE that killed their own school children! They think like they eat => hand-to-mouth.

      Obama slam dunks the Chinese Syndrome whenever he wants.

    • 1 year ago
  • hammywill
  • Gravity_Man
    • 0
      Gravity_Man  
    • hammywill:

      OK. They're good at getting traitors to send them US secrets so they can look smart. How's that? Causing their own earthquake and killing their own children which btw exposed their contractors for using shoddy materials to make a buck... that's the true yardstick of what they are.

      Coating children's bed frames and toys with carcinogenic paints and who knows what else landfill leachate they can ship over here tells us they know how to kill American children also.

      We're like the English marching in nice rows while they pick us off => because of our Greed for cheap Goods that exceeds our love for our own babies.

    • 1 year ago
  • hammywill
    • 0
      hammywill  
    • Gravity_Man:

      If you think China is dumb, then you have not paid any attention to History. I am sure you know that the same things about causing landslides, toxic materials dumped into the environment, shoddy materials to make a buck...if that is the yardstick of who THEY are...well, then they are in the same Company as U.S. Industries...still not sure where can come to the conclusion that China is stupid.

    • 1 year ago
  • Gravity_Man
    • 0
      Gravity_Man  
    • hammywill:

      I never said the US wasn't having problems and harming people nor that we don't suffer our own level of low brains.

      So far we haven't made a lake that crushed the earth's mantle or whatever. So there's a reason for that you are brushing aside and glossing over. Yes, they have been around longer and that's their weakness. Over confidence has dulled them down to the sharpness of a rock.

      But a rock upside the head still hurts so I never said not to watch our back. You bounce off the walls making too many assumptions of stuff I never said.

    • 1 year ago
  • Gravity_Man
    • 0
      Gravity_Man  
    • hammywill:

      One place the US excels in Major Stupid is buying stuff from them when it is obvious they are saving landfill space by stuffing garbage into the products they sell us. If a company does that to us HERE you can sue. When a Chinese company on the other side of the PLANET mired in POLITICAL DEALINGS a person's recourse isn't the same.

      So when we kill their people in Bhopal India our companies are able to escape lawful prosecution while the same thing is being done to us by the Chinese. So what I see here is that worldwide the companies have all found what they craved => NO JAIL TIME.

      Aim and Fire at Will must be the corporation's back boardroom-agreed World Motto. It is an admirably effective winning Plan indeed.

    • 1 year ago
  • bombastinator
  • bombastinator
  • Gravity_Man
  • bombastinator
  • hammywill
    • +1
      hammywill  
    • Gravity_Man:

      I live in California, and I see the sort of things you are talking about all the time. PG&E just blew up a whole neighboorhood in the Bay Area...I mean, blew up the WHOLE NEIGHBOORHOOD! You are saying China is stupid...I am saying if you think THAT, then you sir, are the stupid one. China may not "win" this economic war, but the U.S. IS going to lose.

    • 1 year ago
  • Gravity_Man
  • hammywill
  • Gravity_Man
    • 0
      Gravity_Man  
    • hammywill:

      Repeat => I did not write China was stupid.
      You wrote that, all by your itty bitty self. I meant mental dullness, lack of a honed edge. If I intend to write stupid, I write stupid. I did not write stupid. You did.

    • 1 year ago
  • hammywill
    • 0
      hammywill  
    • Gravity_Man:

      Alright then, you think China is mentally dull and lacks a honed edge? I still contend that if you think this, you have not paid attention. Also, regardless of whether or not China "wins," the United States is losing.

    • 1 year ago
  • Gravity_Man
    • 0
      Gravity_Man  
    • hammywill:

      Ever hear of savants? The Chinese can be smart in some things and dull in others. For as much as you enjoy smashing me with a rock I have paid attention. Neither one is going to win. The Bible writer Daniel got that one right => Daniel 2 vs 44. His conclusion after listing all the world powers was they all get smashed.

      I've studied it and he's right. You can go on bantering on & on & on all your heart desires but the non-stupid ones are those who do their best to gain God's approval PRIOR to verse 44 happening. THEY wash their robes in the blood of the Lamb Christ Jesus and inherit the Earth as he stated found at Matthew 5 vs 5 and again inspired to John found at Revelation 21 verses 3 & 4.

      Humanity gets a System Re-Boot soon.

    • 1 year ago
  • hammywill
    • 0
      hammywill  
    • Gravity_Man:

      Oh...I guess I am done responding to you. I thought you were at least ATTEMPTING to be rational, now I can see that you are a lunatic who is incapable of having any sort of rational debate.

      By the way, I have been hearing the same shit from my father's side of the family, EVERY time there was a global incident. Ronald Reagan was the Anti-Christ, 88 reasons why the rapture will occur in 1988, etc, etc. Every year, another group determines THIS is the year "it" is all going to happen, and yet, here we all are. *shrug*

    • 1 year ago
  • Gravity_Man
    • 0
      Gravity_Man  
    • hammywill:

      The Anti-Christ is not one single man but a group of men. Your Dad's side of the family was partially correct. As for the so-called "Rapture" for starters it's a false teaching and secondly oh well, hold on, you don't want to hear it so I won't bother telling you.

    • 1 year ago
  • Gravity_Man
    • 0
      Gravity_Man  
    • hammywill:

      You'd be surprised how many people I want to stop posting me that all I have to do is mention the Bible, and then it's MISSION ACCOMPLISHED. Man down, Man down, hahaha ahh, got another one.

    • 1 year ago
  • Gravity_Man
    • 0
      Gravity_Man  
    • hammywill:

      Show me proof that Man without God is a greater being if you're so sure of it. Where's your proof? If you don't have Proof then it's only a Belief you choose to have, no better than mine.

      Whereas my proof is plenty. Many prophecies told when Jesus would appear, where Jesus would be born and the miracles he would do. All of the prophecies came true in one man, Jesus. On top of all that proof I have a world of other prophecies that have been fulfilled, most of them in the last 100 years, all of this leading me to believe based on Proof not simply choosing to believe as you have.

      I also have my own proofs from personal experiences but of course everyone discounts those, and it doesn't matter. I have plenty without my own experiences. But my own experiences are more awesome than anything you have, as they were provided to me. Because I was a believer He was able to share with me and do some awesome things for me.

      Your lack of belief in God and the Bible is nothing to what I have.

      You thinking Man is an evolved being is ludicrous, laughable, wishable.It stems from a desire to not have to answer for one's actions. That makes YOUR BELIEF biased and mine not biased. It makes YOU the one who is irrational.

    • 1 year ago
  • hammywill
    • 0
      hammywill  
    • Gravity_Man:

      Number One: I never once said man without god is better. I never once even said I do nto believe in god. Your mistake is that because I do not believe in YOUR god, you assume I do not believe at all.

      Number Two: You have shit inside your head if you think ANY biblical prophecy can be proven.

    • 1 year ago
  • Sarah_Honea
    • +2
      Sarah_Honea  
    • I cannot believe the censorship here. The best part of the article you have to press: 'Read Article Here'. Twice.

      Incidentally its about getting the heck out of Babylon,...I mean America.

      The Plutocrats, I mean Neoclassical economists, I mean Neoliberal fiends have finally got what they want, and its a modern version of the Aristocratic hegemony on the backs of serfs, slaves, and choirboys.

      They have a saying in my grandmothers old neighborhood/barrio: Sal Si Puedes mis amigos/as, Sal Si Puedes!

      If you have the money and credentials,..I think you can fill in the blank.

    • 1 year ago
  • CalgarC
    • -1
      CalgarC  
    • i tell my friend that everyday... he lives in michigan i live in ottawa... he feels bad. i offered him a room here, but thats goin no where...

    • 1 year ago
  • ThatCrazyLibertarian
  • CalgarC
  • toastyguy11
  • bombastinator
    • 0
      bombastinator  
    • CalgarC:

      poor logic. They're imported everywhere else. In Germany Mercedes and BMW are not luxury cars. Most taxis are Mercedes for example. I was just watchign fifth gear (british car show) and thy were testing "yank tanks" They cost almost 40% more over there. The Dodge charger competes price wise with a Porche cayman.

    • 1 year ago
  • CalgarC
  • bombastinator
    • -1
      bombastinator  
    • bombastinator:

      OMG. "censorship"?! That's known in the rest of the world as "bad html".

      The problem is the "source" isn't one. It's some random person's rant blog. This is not a news article from a legitimate news source.

    • 1 year ago
  • ReverandG
    • -5
      ReverandG  
    • Let's take a moment to consider that the EUROPEAN UNION is Bankrupt. The countries aligned with that New World Order nonsense are falling like dominos.
      This story is rediculas, the posters mommy and daddy no doubt pay his way through life with a trust fund and he is a devout "Liberal".

    • 1 year ago
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