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Most Support DADT Repeal, But Tea Party Opposed

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A survey released Monday finds strong support for allowing openly gay and lesbian soldiers to serve in the military, but key groups that traditionally support Republicans oppose the idea.

The survey, conducted by the Pew Research Center for the People and the Press and the Pew Forum on Religion and Public Life, shows that 58% of adults favor allowing gays and lesbians to serve openly, whereas 27% said they opposed allowing it. A majority of both men and women, as well as both Democrats and independents also support allowing open service.

Currently, gays and lesbians are permitted to serve in the military under the Don't Ask Don't Tell policy only if they do not publicly reveal their sexuality.

According the poll, Republicans are divided on whether to allow open service by gays and lesbians -- 40% of Republicans favor it and 44% oppose. Perhaps as important, key groups likely to have an influence on Republican policies are even more opposed to allowing open service. The Pew report notes that among those who said they "agree with the Tea Party" only 38% favor and 48% oppose allowing open servece. Similarly, only 34% of white evangelical Protestants favor and 48% oppose allowing gays and lesbians to serve openly. Lack of Republican support could prevent the Obama administration from ending the Don't Ask, Don't Tell policy, especially if Congress doesn't vote on ending the policy before the end of this year's lame-duck session.

Ending the policy during a lame-duck session may not be popular even if a majority do support repeal, however -- a recent McClatchy Company poll by Marist College found that registered voters were divided on repealing the policy during the current Congress, with 47% saying the current Democratic Congress should repeal the policy and 48% saying they should not repeal it "so they continue to serve but not openly." Another recent poll by NBC News and the Wall Street Journal found that 50% of adults supported allowing open service but 48% either supported continuing the current policy or not permitting service at all when explicitly offered those options.

The Pew poll was conducted Nov. 4-7 among 1,255 adults, and had a 3.5% margin of error. Results among subgroups have a higher margin of error.
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20 comments // Most Support DADT Repeal, But Tea Party Opposed

  • ImConcerned
  • moodyblue
  • ImConcerned
  • moodyblue
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      moodyblue  
    • ImConcerned:

      okay, lets put it this way.. you are standing around the water cooler talking about the date you had the night before with some hot woman. Should you be fired? would you be fired? The answer is of course, no, you would not be, a gay or lesbian would. Once again, its not about sitting around yapping about how gay or straight you are its about a different set of rules. one for gays and lesbians, one for straight people.

      As to your 30 percent minority comment- since when did we allow a hateful, racist, bigoted, minority to dictate law and common decency? If that same 30 % had a problem with blacks, women, Jews, or how about red heads, would those people need to think of the minority and keep their mouths shut, dye their hair, hide their religious views?

      Gays and lesbians have been fighting and dying for this country for many, many years. Its not them that needs to adjust, its the 30%. Because a homophobic whack job might go off gays should just shut the hell up, suck it up, deal with it, and be good little boys and girls, right? No, that homophobic whack job should shut the hell up, suck it up, deal with it, and be a decent human being.

      Edited to add~ I'd like to apologize for the snarky tone of my reply. Unlike a lot of people who weigh in on this issue I DO have a dog in this fight. Im the parent of a lesbian and I fear for her because of the "30%"..it doesnt excuse my tone but i wanted you see where i was coming from.

    • 1 year ago
  • littlwarrior
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      littlwarrior  
    • ImConcerned:

      What of those kicked out of the military not because anyone told anybody anything but because one of their superiors "found out", and then of course the question must be asked what about a gay man who wants to be a lifer, should he not be able to provide his partner with benefits, or at least be able to live with his partner? And then what if he and his partner wish to adopt, or conceive a child in some other fashion, should that child be denied insurance ect because his father cannot tell anyone he exists? Do you see now why DADT is a problem, a gay man cannot serve and have any other kind of life.

    • 1 year ago
  • good_stuff
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      good_stuff  
    • Ok, don't change it in the lame duck session. If a republican congress doesn't repeal it (and replace with less restrictive policy), then it will just be repealed judiciously.

      Its like nobody ever heard that seperate is not equal.

    • 1 year ago
  • timetide
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      timetide  
    • Growing up I wanted nothing more than to join the military and become a military lawyer. My father is a lifer who retires at the end of December, My Papu was a lifer who started in Vietnam and retired in the '90s. His wife (my Yiya) was a nurse for 20 years in the military. His father served first in the Greek military and after fleeing to this country served in the Civilian Auxiliary Core till he died of lung cancer. His father was a lifer in the Greek military and so on and so for an unknown amount of generations. On my Mums side my Grandma was a secretary for 15 years for the Air Force and my Grandpa served in the Navy for both Vietnam and Korea. My family has had a long a fruitful association with the military and see military service as a way to pay this country back for taking us in and sheltering us. And in 2011, for the first time in who knows how long, not one member of my family is going to be serving in the military because I’m a homosexual. How in any way is my service going to hurt the military? How can continuing a family legacy of military service not benefit the military? I grew up in the military and didn’t step foot off base except for family vacations until I was 12. I studied my Father’s textbooks and airplane manuals for fun. I memorized the Uniform code of law by the time I was 13. I was literally breed and raised to be the best I could be and do what I can to contribute to the military. And then I was told because I fell in love with a man that I am unworthy and unclean and could only bring disgrace and disaster to the military.

      Sorry for the rant but I long ago became tired of people telling me that I wasn’t “good enough” to serve.

    • 1 year ago
  • TimALoftis
  • XasthurNortt
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      XasthurNortt  
    • timetide:

      bullshit nigga.

      you could've serve without telling them you are a batter.

      EVEN! in the USAF there are damn cruising sites off base that were only for the underground if you got lonely (of course I was in Germany [and it's one heck of a freak country])

    • 1 year ago
  • ImConcerned
  • timetide
  • timetide
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      timetide  
    • ImConcerned:

      and i don't think my love life is anybodys damn bussiness but my own. But to spend the rest of my life never publicly acknowledging that I'm in love and deny any connection to the community is not a way to live. I could survive (sortof) in the closet but I can not live unless I'm honest and up front.

    • 1 year ago
  • mitekillem
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      mitekillem  
    • Interior - The White House. The President of the United States is awarding the prestigious Silver Star, with a full house of press attending.

      "My Fellow Americans, Today I award Captain Dick Swallows with the Silver Star.
      Swallows is the kind of soldier that we should all try to emulate. In the field of battle, without thinking of himself, he bravely saved his entire squad. When confronted with the enemy, and re-enforcements had not yet arrived, Captain Swallows had a decision to make, either pull-out, or risk getting as he would put it, "completely creamed."
      He knew that he was going to be taken, so, when the chance arised, he lead his men into safety, while he himself, created a distraction.
      Captain Swallows forces were penetrated from the rear. We was flanked from behind and captured. He endured all manner of extreme torture, from having to listen to Barbara Streisand and Liberace and high volumes for days at a time. To routine full cavity searches, and anal probes. Let us not mention the degrading assault. They were not so lucky in breaking his spirit.
      When the moment presented itself, he took control of the situation with great force and vigor. Using his skills to his advantage he turned their torture techniques on his captors; leaving them sore in the end.
      Today we honor this brave hero. For surviving against uncertain odds, seeing to the survival of his platoon, and fighting and protecting these United States.
      If anything, I think our army could use a few more Dick Swallows.
      ............and also, he's Gay.
      This Silver Star goes to Captain Dick Swallows. "

      - -Man, I tell you. The military will never be the same.
      Seriously though. Keep sex out of the military. Straight, gay, used to be gay but now just confused, used to be a man but not anymore, born as a woman but there's a man inside...whatever. You're a soldier, and a human being.
      Quit bitching, and do your job. ...and God Bless.

    • 1 year ago
  • Pollo_Loco_
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      Pollo_Loco_  
    • I'm sorry, but why are we assuming that gay soldiers would be distracting with constant sexual offers? By this logic, all the male soldiers must be dry-humping the female soldiers in the middle of battle, right? Just another example of the gay rights movement being held back by the emphasis of the "sex" in "homosexual".

    • 1 year ago
  • ImConcerned
  • Pollo_Loco_
  • littlwarrior
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      littlwarrior  
    • That is why the tea party was created after all was it not, to put another road block up to what the people really want, give another minority a loud and well financed voice to drown out the voices of independents and liberals. This is just the tea party fufilling their reason for existance.

    • 1 year ago
  • moodyblue
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      moodyblue  
    • I thought the Tea party was all about less government intrusion... oh, they mean for people like them. A different set of rules, one for the rich, white, men of the country and one for women, gays, and the poor. How very... republican of them.

    • 1 year ago
  • TimALoftis
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      TimALoftis  
    • The complete Poll from the Pew Research Center can be found here;

      http://people-press.org/report/679/

      'Large majorities of Democrats (70%) and independents (62%) favor allowing gays to serve openly. Republicans are divided (40% favor, 44% oppose). Among conservative Republicans, far more oppose than favor allowing gays to serve openly (52% to 28%).

      Nearly half (48%) of white evangelical Protestants oppose letting gays serve openly in the military, while just 34% support this proposal. Majorities or pluralities across other religious groups favor allowing gays to serve openly.

    • 1 year ago
  • TimALoftis
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