You Are No Longer Free To Move About the Country
source: http://reason.com/blog/2010/12/01/you-are-no-longer-free-to-move
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A liberal blogger wrote to me in an email this week that libertarians who call the TSA pat-downs a violation of their civil liberties do a disservice to actual violations of civil liberties. It's not difficult to envision the day where anyone wishing to take mass transportation in this country will have to first submit to a government checkpoint, show ID, and answer questions about any excess cash, prescription medication, or any other items in his possession the government deems suspicious. If and when that happens, freedom of movement will essentially be dead. But it won't happen overnight. It'll happen incrementally. And each increment will, when taken in isolation, appear to some to be perfectly reasonable.
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tommic
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Quite simple drive where you want to go and destroy the airline industry ( can't hurt they've been subsidized for decades) don't take a bus, or a train. rent a car.
Complain when terrorists attack, then complain when the government does something, now complain you can't take a plane train or bus without TSA doing their job. I seriously doubt this is to catch illegal immigrants or catching drug smugglers. They may catch some, but terror is the goal, to stop, stop or prevent a terrorist attack to the best of their ability. There is no panacea in the war on terrorism, there is NO easy way. I would prefer we surrender no rights and if people died so be it, but our reaction as a nation has all ready provided terrorists with a victory. We' have changed the way we live due to them.
A man who would surrender rights and freedoms for security deserve neither. - 1 year ago
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tommic
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takobaka
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tommic:
Unfortunately, we're in a closing society. The next step is to have checkpoints every 50 or 100 miles, where everyone gets out of the car and is patted down. Don't fool yourself into thinking it couldn't happen.
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takobaka
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UtopianSky
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You know, I think this is an issue that just about everyone is in agreement about.
I've never seen anyone, short of a politician or other official, speak out in favor of these procedures.
Some argue against it as civil rights and personal privacy, others as an unnecessary expense with no benefit, others because it is a system ripe for abuse.
The only people who are for this are the people who sell the screening machines, and the pervs doing the pat-downs.
It's an issue that can unite us all- Republican, Democrat, Libertarian, Capitalist, Socialist, Liberal, Conservative, Atheist, Christian, Muslim, Jew, Gay, Straight, Black, White ...
None of us want a total stranger in a uniform grabbing our junk.
Unless it's a really hot total stranger, and he buys us dinner first.
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UtopianSky
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Radical_Centrist
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UtopianSky:
"None of us want a total stranger in a uniform grabbing our junk.
Unless it's a really hot total stranger, and he buys us dinner first."Unless it was a REALLY REALLY nice Dinner I think i would still be pissed. lol
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Radical_Centrist
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UtopianSky
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Radical_Centrist:
I think it's a ratio between his hotness, and the quality of the dinner. As one goes up, I can be more forgiving of the other. :)
Matthew McConaughey could take me to the McDonalds drive-thru. :)
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UtopianSky
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galwayman
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The move to a police state continues while Americans are brainwashed into believing it is to keep them "safe"! Have been using Amtrak to avoid the criminal treatment at airports and now this! Wake up people this crap is not to make you "safer" but to monitor everyones travel and moves! Welcome to the Obama police state! Lets put a stop to this! Lets take our country back!
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galwayman
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dudefromtherock
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America, greatest country in the world? Welcome to your new shithole, Gestapo Germany. Papers please!!!
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dudefromtherock
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maasanova
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Why not put TSA on the border? Ahh...no that would make too much sense. Nah, let's just have them fondle our wives and kids instead.
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maasanova
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sffsmessiah
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oh no, bad guys!
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sffsmessiah
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jubal
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Time to make your exit plans from the good ol USA....they don't give a shit when you protest...they consider Americans the enemy of the state. Privacy is dead in America.
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jubal
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Progresshiv
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jubal:
Welcome to the monkey house, where blithering idiots rule the weak.
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Progresshiv
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dudefromtherock
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jubal:
We will take some of you here in Canada....except Apyips
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dudefromtherock
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Radical_Centrist
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Naomi Wolfe has been warning us of this for years. :-(
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Radical_Centrist
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Progresshiv
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None of this garbage is "reasonable." It's a simple scam to terrorize Americans into accepting a police state. Timid and soft as little bunnies, U.S. citizens have thrown in the towel on the fight for freedom. Morons.
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Progresshiv
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PzLuvHappeniz
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Progresshiv:
patriot act part duex
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PzLuvHappeniz
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Progresshiv
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PzLuvHappeniz:
Coup de gros
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Progresshiv
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KSirys
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It's going to happen... time to move to France!
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KSirys
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Vierotchka
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KSirys:
Wait until Sarkozy is no longer president - he is a US lackey.
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Vierotchka
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KSirys
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Vierotchka:
oh please don't say that!! i had hopes for that country..... DAMN! so much for doing a Johnny Depp move... =(
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KSirys
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bailey78
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Wail till they come knocking on the door wanting to Photograph and finger print then tattoo you. I do believe thats comeing real soon.
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bailey78
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Ihatethemall
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bailey78:
I dont have that much room left for any new ink.
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Ihatethemall
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toastyguy11
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Well, hitchiking is fun, free and there are no pat-downs
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toastyguy11
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bailey78
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toastyguy11:
no pat-downs? every town you go through there will be a pat-down. been there done that
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bailey78
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Vierotchka
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toastyguy11:
There often is far worse than pat-downs when hitch-hiking, especially if you're a woman. There is theft, rape and murder.
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Vierotchka
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toastyguy11
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Vierotchka:
Well you're right, it is different for women travelling alone, but otherwise you don't have anything to be afraid of hitchiking, just check out whoever's giving you a ride, and if you don't like them you don't have to get in the car. I've met a lot of cool people hitchiking, they're usually the only ones who stop
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toastyguy11
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toyotabedzrock
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Those who give up essential liberties for temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
-- Benjamin FranklinThe means of defense against foreign danger historically have become the instruments of tyranny at home.
– James Madison - 1 year ago
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toyotabedzrock
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PzLuvHappeniz
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toyotabedzrock:
You gotta love the founding fathers they seem like they had the right balance of hippie liberal and revolutionary genius
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PzLuvHappeniz
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toyotabedzrock
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antiutopia:
It's happening because TeaFuckers yell so loud about protecting America that Reasonable People have no chance to be heard!
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TomTucker
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toyotabedzrock:
O god seriously? LOL!
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rhetoricallyineffective
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"...it won't happen overnight. It'll happen incrementally. And each increment will, when taken in isolation, appear to some to be perfectly reasonable."
Exactly. It's just a new airport security measure.
It's just a bus checkpoint
It's just a quick drug test.
We just need to ask you a few questions before you board your flight.
"TAKE OFF ALL YO CLOTHEZ AND STICK THIS IN UR BUTT" (it's just a GPS tracker chip that has to be inserted anally) - 1 year ago
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rhetoricallyineffective
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KSirys
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rhetoricallyineffective:
voted up!
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KSirys
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Progresshiv
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rhetoricallyineffective:
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/31BwU2trYQL.jpg
Bend over and sing "The Star Spangled Banner."
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Progresshiv
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Itsbatman_Durr
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things like this are my greatest fear, and unfortunately they are unfolding before our eyes. so much for change we could believe in
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Itsbatman_Durr
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Johnny_Los_Angeles
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We all know that terrorists have been blowing up buses and trains in this country right and left not to mention flying them into skyscrapers on an almost daily basis!
I am sure am glad that that one idiot rider on the video is now feeling "safe" his bus wont be blown up!!
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Johnny_Los_Angeles
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Paratus
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......"teaming up to keep your family safe."
What a joke. Putting your hands in mine or my wifes crotch will somehow keep me safe. Safe is me carrying a 1911 not some thug viewing porn or performing sex offenses.
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Paratus
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dariusvons
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he says just what I've been saying all along. the TSA has nothing to do with safety, and everything to do with smuggling.
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dariusvons
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dannym2
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dariusvons:
In the name of national security,and your own good,why not just give them,thier own,air lines?ya,that way,next time they feel that,need to blow some thing up,they can just blow up,a, perwired(for there safety)plane,of there very own,and at know expense,to them.They could name it Chick,Hawk Air Ways,that way,there is,no,delays,nolines,no,TSA
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dannym2
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rebel_scum
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The "bad guys"?? How ironic.
This is the same bull homeland is giving us about the FEMA camps.
For lack of better words, fuck Gary Milano.
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rebel_scum