Lawyer asks judge to block video of Conn. boy's Uzi death from ex-police chief's trial

It's disgusting. Totally agree

in most locations you have to have a certain type of firearms dealer license.
the owner had it, to my understanding.
he was carefully allowing some kids to shoot the gun, and it had gone OK most of the day.
in this case, what I heard was that the observer was right there with the child, I mean within inches, and usually held the Uzi as the children shot it, but he reached to recover his earphones for protection and the kid squeezed the trigger. the recoil of the shot tipped the gun back toward his head, and the gun fired again, killing him.

I'm a big 2nd Amendment defender, but I dont think it's wise to let children play with full-auto weapons. Big mistake. Especially total novices. But even tho my kids have fired .22s, even a .223 (bolt action), I would never let them touch a full auto firearm, or even semi auto for that matter.

Only in some states.

That's what happened. He wasn't even letting the other kids really even hold the gun. He held the gun by the bottom of the grip & the clip. They just got to pull the trigger.He got ready to let him fire the gun then remembered the earphones....

He should have taken the gun away before putting in his ear plugs. I think this was a tragic accident, and not sure it warrants a charge of manslaughter...BUT, the walking along a road analogy seems to be apples and oranges to me.

Kind of shitty analogy, sorry I know. My point is, a perfectly safe situation can become dangerous very easily if you're not paying attention.

That, my friend, is true enough.

I share your sentiments

I am SURE Criminals would turn all of theirs in once the law was passed!

So I guess if a Race Car driver gave the kid the keys to a Lamborghini the Dad would have said if it is ok with them it MUST be safe..

you should read more about the event and then you'll understand, they didn't just hand a kid an uzi at random, there was very close supervision, but there was a single split second of distraction and that's all it took.

i guess you've never heard of kids killing themselves on skateboards, bikes, motorbikes, swimming pools, trampoulines...bath tubs.

Yes but not close enough. A friend of mine was there that day. There were many other children at this event, he was not the 1st kid to fire that gun on that day. With all the other kids someone was holding the guns clip below the kids hand so something like this wouldn't happen. They got careless one time.

the problem with firearms is that it only takes ONE mistake, one moment of carelessness or distraction.

the story i heard was that in the instant the observer/helper reached to put on his earphones the boy pulled the trigger and recoil bounced the gun back so the subsequent shot killed him. a split second. why wasn't the gun on safety?

don't know.

but it's dangerous enough to train a boy that age to fire a .22. I've taught my kids to shoot our 22 and I was watching them like a hawk, still nervous. A full-auto uzi? No, I'm not interested in taking that kind of chance.

And we can supply series of flags.

hah thinking... there was a monkey playing cymbals in there head...

I am an avid gun enthusiast, but I agree with you a 100% on this one.

no one should play with uzi's

I agree Children should not be allowed to "PLAY" with weapons of any sort. In my home guns are not toys and toys are not guns. I do not agree that children should not be taught how to responsibly use fire arms however. An Uzi would be too much gun for many Adults, so it goes without saying NOT appropriate for an 8 year old.

He was not skiing. He was firing a MACHINE GUN.

I think the Farther is the most culpable in the group. I mean if someone handed my 8 year old Daughter a machine Gun to shoot I would say thanks, but no Thanks she is not ready for such a weapon.

incidentally, in Mass it is illegal to furnish a minor with a machine gun for ANY reason.

yeah if we don't lock this guy up, everyone is going to think they can get away with it and so everybody, yes everybody, will give guns to their children! everybody's doing it!

you just made zero sense. All you want is to satisfy your instinct to point the finger at someone perceived as worse than you and punish him. There is actually no good argument for punishing him other than revenge.

"Ultimately though, blame should fall on the fathers shoulders for bringing his son to this place and letting him get himself killed"

kids get killed while supervised and riding their bikes, motorcycles, swimming in pools...hell the most dangerous place in America for kids is the flipping bathtub.

I am not sure that is true statistically speaking. Of course bathtubs cause more deaths in whole number, but do you think that might be because EVERY single child takes a bath? How many kids take baths (whole numbers) vs. the kids that shoot fully automatic weapons (whole numbers). Now run the statistics on the death ratio. Give me THAT number, then we can talk about how dangerous bath tubs are Vs. Machine Guns.

My Daughter is 14 and shot just about everything else, but has yet to shoot a fully automatic weapon.

The dad did do right. He left his son with a "professional". A few other kids fired that gun earlier in the day. The guy who was supposed to be helping the kid was not paying attention. All the other kids who fired that gun had an adult holding the clip underneath their hand. To blame the dad is like blaming a parent whose child drowned at a waterpark because the lifeguard was not paying attention.

Hmm...a waterpark, and an Uzi park...somehow I am not seeing a comparable analogy.

At the end of the day the parent is ALWAYS responsible.

That is a dogmatic statement. Every situation, parent, child is different. Dogmatic statements are unthinking and dangerous.

It is most likely because you don't wish to. I'll help. According to floydyboy both are potentially dangerous/deadly situations supervised by a professional. Agree or not, at least you should get it now.

It is my child...I am responsible. The decisions that I did or didn't make put my child in whatever position they find themselves in.

If I don't parent that way then I am doing something wrong.

there WAS supervision, illiterate.

I am sure you see that a swimming pool is as dangerous as an Uzi. Perhaps you are right, I don't want to see it that way. But, in my mind, I don't see as large a threat of death swimming around a kiddy pool as I do shooting an Uzi. Maybe it's just me, but I would wager that a large majority of people would agree with me.

who is calling who iliterate. i read the whole article and all it says was that dad was near by. And had you any reading comprehension skills you would have noticed that I wasnt saying there was no supervision but rather what there was was obviously inadequate.

So, say this kid was walking down a busy road, with a trusted adult. A busy road, if you're not paying attention is a dangerous place. If the kid got hit by a car, would you blame the parent, would you blame Ford. No, you'd blame the trusted adult who was supposed to know what they were doing so everyone would be safe, or call it a tragic accident.

Wait, is the 8 year old driving the car on a busy road? Because otherwise, this is an apples and oranges comparison in my view.

A tragic accident for sure, but placing blame in that circumstance isn't going to do anyone any good.

Don't think for a second, though, that I wouldn't second guess everything involved in that scenario. If I'd just done this or that different my child would not have been hit by a car. The what if's would be endless.

The point that I was making is that even if there is a lifeguard on duty or a 'hey kid hold your uzi right' person supervising...and I am there....I AM RESPONSIBLE.

Read much? "walking"

I was being sarcastic. In my mind the analogy would be more appropriate if you said the adult and child were running around on a freeway...but, apparently I am in the minority. I think your analogy is apples and oranges.

I know! When I first saw the photo to this story I thought it was going to be about how much weight Al Gore has gained since leaving Tipper.....
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It's actually probably not all that funny when a kid gets shot in the head though. That's not funny at all.

I know the kid getting shot was not funny, but evolution is!