I agree with you. Taxes are robbing people at gun point...after a few notices.... why would you tell me to shut the fuck up on something we agree with?

I don't think you understood mitekillem's post at all.

Well then explain it.... he said taxes are like pointing guns at people.... I agree, what is he trying to say? In his example, you were owed something for your hard work, so trying to claim your property (YOUR EARNED paycheck) is simply trying to claim your property. Taxes are not owed to anyone, and it's all stolen (taxes). I hope he or she understands the difference between the two examples....

Read it again : "Taxes are to Stealing as Your Paycheck is to Robbing your Employer at Gunpoint."

This means that taxes are no more a theft than is receiving a paycheck from your employer. In other words, when you receive your salary (from your employer), you are not robbing your employer at gunpoint. Likewise, taxes are not stealing from you.

Why would you need a gun to collect your paycheck unless the person was already infringing on your property rights by not giving you your justly earned property (wages)?

You EARNED your paycheck, thus, no one has to point guns at their employer to receive their paycheck (unless the employer is bad which the corporatist government's statism only goes to give protectionism towards).

Point being, the paycheck is YOURS, earned voluntarily through labor. The government money was extorted from the population by the threat of imprisonment through jail time...by coercion.

This is not earned money, nothing was voluntarily agreed to, it is simply theft....literally at gun point.

Can you really not see the difference between earning a paycheck and extortion (taxation)?!?

You still did not understand. If you don't like taxes, don't use or avail yourself of everything that tax money has provided you with. Dont use roads, don't use tap water but dig your own well. Don't go to school, don't send your kids to school, don't expect a pension when you retire, and leave society and civilization altogether (they will be far better off without you and your ilk, that's for sure). Taxes are NOT extortion, only an idiot cannot see this fact.

I don't want the government monopolizing all these utilities! I want them out of my life completely, and I DO try to eliminate my burden from government where I can.... but it is impossible when you are enslaved to them. Murray Rothbard had a great book an precisely this, where he said, it is not our fault they have us trapped to their monopoly, just do what you can to minimize your government damage on society....

Schooling would be much better and cheaper without state corporatist oligopolization!

Taxes ARE theft, and you obviously can not PROVE otherwise...until then, I am taking the definition of the word...which is money taken against people's will...which is stealing. How can you deny this simple FACT?!?

What does this have to do with taxation being money taken against people's will?

Underpay is a subjective term....

If your house catches on fire will you put it out? If you're in a motor vehicle accident and are entrapped, who will extricate you?

Except a job is a mutually beneficial situation where two people are agreeing to certain terms and can back out at any time. How is that like taxes???????????????????

You're missing the simple picture. Taxes are taken through force and threat of violence. The money is extorted. I don't like the way the roads are built and maintained, I certainly don't like the public school system, and I DEFINITELY don't approve of the military industrial complex. Yet, I'm FORCED to pay for these things. Money is automatically taken from each of my paychecks. How is this civilized or peaceful and not violent and thievery again?

he was railing against corporatism not capitalism - huge difference.

There is nothing wrong with being rich, as long as you earned it justly. Excess profits, though short-lived in a true free market, are good signs that a person found needs of the market and answered them, although new competitors are sure to rush in to fill the void and bring excess profits back down....

he was a libertarian campaign manager. His guy lost so now he spams websites

He is Mike Shanklin who posts and spams Current with his sick libertarian propaganda using the handle shanklinmike.

I didn't post this article...the Punk Rock Libertarians did.... and there is nothing sick with ending slavery.

I was posting on current long before I was a volunteer on a small campaign....

Thank you.

Thank you.

What property rights. They can take it all away from you in heartbeat.

Have you ever tried to USE the government to protect your rights? It's all hype, they don't protect your rights, they protect the major lobbying interests. Government doesn't derive consent from the governed, since they simply initiate violent force against anyone who doesn't consent to their existence. Choice would mean that you have the option to say no altogether, but I don't remember seeing that on the ballot. A majority rule is still a violation of my rights, even if I am one of the ones who would "choose" government if given the full array of choices.

yay, a rational libertarian! I agree with everything you said

Due Process? Oh your talking about that theatrical presentation of pseudojustice?

I like how people call what the government provides as benefits that I have reaped. Though I am given no choice in the matter.

When people stop acting in a manner that demands they be governed, well, then we will not have a government. Until such a time, we will have a government. Basically, when we stop acting like spoiled little brats, we will not need a babysitter anymore. And I see humanity as still being a bunch of spoiled little brats.

and democracy is wrong, individual rights should rule.

Even if "individual rights" are in conflict with each other, which they more than often are? You are basically rooting for total chaos.

Extremely "Right on"!!! :)

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I'm not the one who posted this...

speak for yourself.

But you're the idiot in the video who got one of your doting idiot fans to post it for you.