Community | December 13, 2010 | 212 comments

Man castrates teen daughter’s much older boyfriend with bread knife

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German man Helmut Seifert was really upset over the revelations of his 17 year old daughter’s relationship with a 57 year old man and went to Bielefeld police for assistance but to no avail.

The 47 year old Russian-born German decided to take matters into his own hands. He got two co-workers to join him at the house of his daughter’s lover, Phillip Genscher.

They forced Genscher to remove his pants and cut off his testicles with a bread knife. Seifert then left the scene of the crime with testicles in hand and Genscher bleeding to death.

The new eunuch was able however to call police and his life was saved. Seifert has been arrested for attempted murder and will go on trial next year.

Seifert had these words to say to police, "I received a phone call anonymously that my daughter was involved with a guy 40 years older than her. You said you couldn't stop him – so I did.

"I saw it as my duty as a father."

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212 comments // Man castrates teen daughter’s much older boyfriend with bread knife

  • XasthurNortt
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      XasthurNortt  
    • I'm 14 yr old and I have to say this is gaytarded.

      I've suck on my illegal mexican babysitter's tits when I blackmailed her 2 yrs ago... no big deal.
      (yes we can)

      I guess he had a C0uplE of balls at hand

    • 1 year ago
  • a619ko
  • randallr01
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      randallr01  
    • I'd like to take the time to remind everyone that Age of Consent Laws are subjective.

      Canada = 14 years
      UK = 16 years
      Most of Europe = 16 or 15

      USA (the prudish religious right freaks) = 18

      It is also common practice in South America for older women to 'coach' the younger boys as they come of age. 'Sounds pretty hot to me!

    • 1 year ago
  • beautifulmiddlefinger
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      beautifulmiddlefinger  
    • bravo Phillip....im 26 and cant score me a 17 year old........i dont blame the father, but i also will not demonize the "lover" for doing something i wouldnt hesitate to do myself......

    • 1 year ago
  • fun_size
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      fun_size  
    • Weird story... 17 year-old dates guy 10 years older than her father. Her father gets 2 co-workers to hold the guy down while he turns him into a saprano then he walks away with the guys balls? Remind me to not fuck with Germany...

    • 1 year ago
  • Gravity_Man
  • Gravity_Man
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      Gravity_Man  
    • Gravity_Man:

      My real ulterior reason for posting was to surround Verotchka's Copy~Paste post. The Ocean Energy has more sexual content on it that this worn out rag of a thread. Thread Traitor's are Welcome there too! What can Ocean Energy possibly have to do with SEX? I guess that's the $64,000 dollar question eh?

      Learning about new forms of Energy is very liberating, therefore it gives one the opportunity to grow younger and be 17 again, without the gruesomeness of getting Hot n' Sweaty with a {ugh} hairy 57 year old Buffalo who everybody knows is a fully trained sexologist and kind and generous too. Not at all self-absorbed and Greedy.

    • 1 year ago
  • Vierotchka
  • fun_size
  • Vierotchka
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      Vierotchka  
    • The age of consent in Germany is 14, as long as a person over the age of 21 does not exploit a 14–15 year-old person's lack of capacity for sexual self-determination. In this rare and special case, a conviction on an individual over the age of 21 requires a complaint from the younger individual; being over 21 and engaging in sexual relations with a minor of that age does not constitute an offense in and of itself. Otherwise the age of consent is 14, although provisions protecting minors against coercion apply until the age of 18.

      As specified by Sections 176 (Sexual abuse of children) and 182 (Sexual abuse of youths), which read:

      § 176: "(1) Whoever commits sexual acts on a person under fourteen (14) years of age (a child) or allows them to be committed on himself by the child, shall be punished by imprisonment from six months to ten years [...]"

      § 180: "(1) Whoever abets the commission of sexual acts of a person under sixteen years of age on or in front of a third person or sexual acts of a third person on a person under sixteen years of age:

      1. by acting as an intermediary; or

      2. by furnishing or creating an opportunity,

      shall be punished with imprisonment for not more than three years or a fine. [...]

      § 182: "(2) A person over twenty-one years of age who abuses a person under sixteen years of age, in that he: 1. commits sexual acts on the person or allows them to be committed on himself by the person; or 2. induces the person to commit sexual acts on a third person or to allow them to be committed on the person by a third person, and thereby exploits the victim's lack of capacity for sexual self-determination, shall be punished with imprisonment for not more than three years or a fine. [..] the act shall only be prosecuted upon complaint, unless the prosecuting authority considers ex officio that it is required to enter the case because of the special public interest therein. [..] the court may dispense with punishment pursuant to these provisions if , in consideration of the conduct of the person against whom the act was directed, the wrongfulness of the act is slight."

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of_consent_in_Europe#Germany

      The law is quite clear - there was nothing wrong or illegal with a woman of 17 having sex with a man of 57.

    • 1 year ago
  • Gravity_Man
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      Gravity_Man  
    • Obviously the man is going to have to visit APPLICABLE RETRIBUTION on the father at his home ASAP. He'll have to take a knife over there right away and sever the father's phone lines.

    • 1 year ago
  • Gravity_Man
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      Gravity_Man  
    • Gravity_Man:

      RJ-45's too! All over the house take em all down. A machete is too good for this dirtbag Dad. Take down his Internet man be a man.

      Wait! I'm 59. That means I need to go tooling around town and find a Grown Up 17 Year Old Woman. Yes!!! It is, my, Destiny. I'll teach her every intricate maneuver I know so she too can be 59 years old!

      Then I have to move. No, Wait. A smart man would already be packed, everything loaded into a U-Haul, then go farming the area schools for 17 year old liberated women. Ha Ha!!!! A Plan!!! And during Christmas and New Years when women feel so alone and wanting companionship.

      Wow. What a sleeper! This was a Christmas post!!!

    • 1 year ago
  • oppressed1
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      oppressed1  
    • 17 is 17 if i wanted to bang some old hag when i was that young its my right. I mean its going to be gross, and my friends would make fun of me, but hell old ptang is still ptang.

    • 1 year ago
  • fun_size
  • remanns
  • Paratus
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      Paratus  
    • OK. This won't sit well with the we all need to get along crowd but fathers are exempt from this. Go to the police for help, when they don't help do it yourself. What's the problem?

    • 1 year ago
  • Vierotchka
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      Vierotchka  
    • Paratus:

      It was none of his business who his adult daughter was dating, which is likely what the police told him. Had his daughter been under 15, the police would have acted at once.

    • 1 year ago
  • Mark701
  • Aaron_Brutus
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      Aaron_Brutus  
    • Vierotchka:

      so. . .i clothe you, i feed you, and put a roof over your head; all this is my business but when it comes to who your dating thats where my business ends? um. . . .you must be out your f#### mind.

    • 1 year ago
  • Paratus
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      Paratus  
    • Vierotchka:

      She was 17, not yet the age of majority. I don't care what the law says about that. If you are willing to sit around and let your juvenile daughter be ravaged by a person decades her senior that's your business. I would not be. Age does not denote maturity. It's her fathers duty to protect her, sometime from herself.

    • 1 year ago
  • Paratus
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      Paratus  
    • Mark701:

      I did not raise my sons to molest girls many years their junior. He was not my son, your statement is nonsense. As far as being intellectually challenged, you don't even know where to put comas in your sentence. You are lacking two. Please don't throw stones when you live in a glass house. I feel like I'm having a battle of the wits with an unarmed person.

    • 1 year ago
  • Vierotchka
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      Vierotchka  
    • Aaron_Brutus:

      My mind is just fine. A young woman's sex life is none of her father's business - fathers who interfere with their grown daughter's dating and sex life are basically men who would like to fuck their own daughters.

    • 1 year ago
  • Vierotchka
  • Aaron_Brutus
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      Aaron_Brutus  
    • Vierotchka:

      well. . .its tragic that where you come from only sick men care about who their 17 year old daughter brings home it really is tragic. all im trying to say is that 17 IS NOT GROWN. i dont want my 17 year old daughter F#### anyone let alone a man whos older than me.

    • 1 year ago
  • keithponder
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      keithponder  
    • Aaron_Brutus:

      I agree completely. Consent doesn't always mean that a person knows how to make healthy decisions .Anybody that can't see that a 57 year old man is far more intelligent than a 17 girl is should have their head examined. Be a real man about it and try picking on some one your own size. A 17 girl doesn't even know what she wants out of life just yet, and common sense parents just don't raise their children to be taken advantage of by dirty old men. That's why teachers and high school principals that do this to their students are immediately fired and then prosecuted.

      I used to have a friend that would tickle my daughter under arms when she was a child. By the time she reached 12 years old , he was still trying to tickle her. I warned him. He tried it again when she was 14 years old. All that I'll say online is that he's not my friend anymore. He doesn't want to show his face.

      Virginity, to some of us, is still sacred.

    • 1 year ago
  • Vierotchka
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      Vierotchka  
    • Aaron_Brutus:

      17 is certainly not grown for males, but it certainly is grown for females. You don't want your grown daughter to have sex with anyone? Well, she most certainly has had sex without telling you. I guess you want her all for yourself. I pity any girl whose father is like you.

    • 1 year ago
  • Aaron_Brutus
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      Aaron_Brutus  
    • Vierotchka:

      Yes. . .you caught me. i want her all to myself. this is what i was gettin at arguing with you for almost an hour. . . .wow. . .i uh. . .dont remember disrespecting you but its cool i guess your a women. . .i think. .you obviously know more about what a 17 year old girl is ready to do than i ever will.

    • 1 year ago
  • noxidereus
  • Mariased
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      Mariased  
    • keithponder:

      I hope that when you say "intelligent" you actually mean "mature". Age does not automatically denote intelligence. It is not irrational to believe that a teenage girl can be more intelligent than an adult male. As a teenage girl, I know that I am more intelligent than a number of adult men.

    • 1 year ago
  • Vierotchka
  • Vierotchka
    • +1
      Vierotchka  
    • Aaron_Brutus:

      Indeed, I am a woman - a mother and a grandmother to a teenage grand-daughter. So yes, I know more about what a 17 year old woman is ready to do than you ever will.

      On Children
      Kahlil Gibran

      Your children are not your children.
      They are the sons and daughters of Life's longing for itself.
      They come through you but not from you,
      And though they are with you yet they belong not to you.

      You may give them your love but not your thoughts,
      For they have their own thoughts.
      You may house their bodies but not their souls,
      For their souls dwell in the house of tomorrow,
      which you cannot visit, not even in your dreams.
      You may strive to be like them,
      but seek not to make them like you.
      For life goes not backward nor tarries with yesterday.

      You are the bows from which your children
      as living arrows are sent forth.
      The archer sees the mark upon the path of the infinite,
      and He bends you with His might
      that His arrows may go swift and far.
      Let your bending in the archer's hand be for gladness;
      For even as He loves the arrow that flies,
      so He loves also the bow that is stable.

    • 1 year ago
  • Aaron_Brutus
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      Aaron_Brutus  
    • Vierotchka:

      im only 21 so hopefully i wont have to worry about this sort of thing for while. but understand that im not only talking about girls im talking about boys too. 17 years old is nothing. you havent even seen life at 17 years old so i cannot support decisions that can change your life forever at 17. having Sex just once can change your life forever (Pregnancy, STD, etc) im sorry i just cannot support something like this. standing by and not saying anything is the same as supporting it. a 57 year old man knows all this so that makes it SICK. if this would make me a bad father. . .well. . so be it. call me a bad father ill gladly wear that title.

    • 1 year ago
  • Mark701
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      Mark701  
    • Paratus:

      No it wasn't nonsense and you didn't answer the question. How would you feel if it WAS your son? Just answer the question.

      P.S. Sorry about the "commas" but not sorry about the "comas".

    • 1 year ago
  • Mark701
  • Vierotchka
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      Vierotchka  
    • Aaron_Brutus:

      You are mistaken if you think that one hasn't seen life at 17. Of course, if one is more or less sequestered by coddling controlling parents, one has been prevented from becoming an adult by that age, but plenty of 17 year-olds have seen a lot of life, have learnt a great deal about life, and are perfectly capable of taking life-changing decisions. Having sex at 17 is more than normal, and most 17 year-old women know all about pregnancy, how to prevent it, about STDs and how to avoid them, etc. There is nothing inherently wrong with a 57 year-old man having a relationship with a 17 year-old woman, especially as such a man, as you rightly state, knows all about it and will take all necessary precautions not to get a young woman pregnant, and is far less likely to have an STD than is a 17 year-old boy. There is strictly nothing sick about it, even if you think there is. You are obviously very immature, and if you treat your future daughter(s) as you have described you would, that is what is SICK.

    • 1 year ago
  • Mark701
    • +1
      Mark701  
    • Aaron_Brutus:

      It's not tragic that men care about their daughters. Most men do. It's tragic when fathers go insane and cut the testicles off a another man because his daughter and the man had consensual sex.

      Also, consider the consequences. His daughter will likely hate him the rest of her life. She'll likely move away and cut all ties with him. She will likely STILL have sex with older men, except now it will be out of rebellion, not for love or even what she thinks is love. She will someday marry, have children, and simply tell them her father is dead because in essence he will be to her.

      Consider. This man had a choice between personal vengeance and a relationship with his daughter and he chose revenge. Are these the actions of a man who cares more about his daughter than himself? There were other ways to deal with this and this idiot chose violence.

    • 1 year ago
  • Gravity_Man
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      Gravity_Man  
    • Vierotchka:

      Nothing inherently wrong? You wrote that? Hmm. Kissing passes saliva from an Old Person to a Young Person. There might be immunities to many diseases in his saliva and that would be a great thing for the younger woman. Or if he has a powerful disease in his saliva she could be dead in several days because she lacked a lifetime of buildup in her Immune System.

      Sound like quite a decision to me. 40 years of disease exposure in a one night stand. And for what? To protest your Daddie's parental control?

    • 1 year ago
  • Mark701
    • +1
      Mark701  
    • Aaron_Brutus:

      She probably does. She's a woman and used to be 17. Best to listen to her instead of assuming you know how a 17 year old women thinks. Trust me, you don't. I raised 3 daughters and it wasn't easy. But I never felt the need to cut anyone's testicles off, even when I found out they were having sex.

    • 1 year ago
  • Vierotchka
  • Aaron_Brutus
  • Aaron_Brutus
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      Aaron_Brutus  
    • Mark701:

      I know that. i wasnt being sarcastic i know that she knows what a 17 year old female thinks better than i ever could. if i ever made it sound like i agreed with what this man did then i apologize

    • 1 year ago
  • Aaron_Brutus
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      Aaron_Brutus  
    • Vierotchka:

      Even when you take all Necessary precautions nothing is for certain a Mature woman like yourself should know this. you and I are not going to see eye to eye so lets agree to disagree and leave it at that.

    • 1 year ago
  • Vierotchka
  • Aaron_Brutus
  • Gravity_Man
  • keithponder
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      keithponder  
    • Mariased:

      No l meant what l said and l know many more adults that are far more intelligent than what you think you and l am not calling you dumb.

      There are things that my own daughter, at 17, didn't want to hear from me that she at 20, now will not hesitate to ask me about.

      Most teenagers think they know more about life than adults do. You can say whatever you choose to, but that's really ass backwards. Your philosophy is suggesting that we get dumber as we get older. I know some wise young people, but their immature wisdom doesn't come close to the wisdom of most adults.

    • 1 year ago
  • keithponder
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      keithponder  
    • Vierotchka:

      That's as crazy a comment as Ive ever read on this website. 17 year old girls and boys are only at the age of exploration.The learning process has really just begun at that age.If that were not the case, most of them would have no desire to pursue a higher learning for anything. There would be no need for college.

      Lady V, once again, it's sounds like your just being stubborn again because you always have to be right.

    • 1 year ago
  • Vierotchka
    • -1
      Vierotchka  
    • keithponder:

      The learning process begins even before birth, and it continues throughout life in normal human beings. The age of exploration begins at the age of about two or three. People even enter college at past the age of 90, and the desire for higher learning exists throughout life in many people. I am not being stubborn at all, I am merely conveying facts.

    • 1 year ago
  • keithponder
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      keithponder  
    • Vierotchka:

      I guess you want her all for yourself
      ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      That's a horrible and ugly thing to say to any father, especially a father that, outside of comments made on Current,you know nothing about.

      I just can't figure out,for the life of me, why a woman as bright as you appear to be at times, has to resort to indignation just to maintain a false sense of superiority.

    • 1 year ago
  • Vierotchka
  • keithponder
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      keithponder  
    • Mark701:

      Consider. This man had a choice between personal vengeance and a relationship with his daughter and he chose revenge
      ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      "Revenge" is really a matter of perception and interpretation of the reader in this story. Some of us perceive this as an act of justice. We really don't know what his spiritual beliefs are.

      His daughter very well hate him for the rest of his life, however she may very well thank him too being vigilant on her behalf before was able to do so for herself.

      None of us have the right to assume so I cannot be wrong just because I disagree or feel different than what you do about this.

    • 1 year ago
  • keithponder
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      keithponder  
    • Mark701:

      I'm glad that you never had to resort to using these kind of tactics against men while your daughters were growing up. I hope and doubt too,that your daughters never engaging in type of behavior with horny old men too. If one of your daughters had brought home a 57 year old Black man and introduced him to you as her lover, you'd have gone crazy. Don't deny it, and that's OK. I definitely would have had an hostile reaction if the roles were reversed whether it was a 57 year old White or Black man. I'm not afraid to be honest about my feelings.

      Teenagers and young adults are seldom capable of making healthy decisions on a regular basis. That's obviously why their insurance rates are so damn high.

      This is an age where they are simply earning our trust to act responsibly when they're out on their own. No one can deny that.

    • 1 year ago
  • keithponder
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      keithponder  
    • Vierotchka:

      There are at least one millions students from the ages of 17 to 25 years old on college campuses worldwide than there are for every person at the age of 90.

      Please do try and do better than that.

    • 1 year ago
  • keithponder
  • Mariased
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      Mariased  
    • keithponder:

      "l am not calling you dumb."

      You're just saying that I'm not as smart as you are simply because of your age and that you're automatically smarter than I am. Gee, thanks. I do enjoy condescension.

      "Your philosophy is suggesting that we get dumber as we get older"

      That is not what I'm suggesting at all. What I am suggesting is that there are teenagers out there who can intellectually exceed adults. It isn't always true, but it's not impossible by any stretch of the imagination. It happens rather frequently. I never said that I believed at all that I am smarter than all adults or that the length of time you've lived denotes intelligence. That is very far from what I was insinuating. Hence the reason why I said " I know that I am more intelligent than a number of adult men" rather than "all" or "most" adults. So, yes. Adults do TEND to have more life experience than young people, but that doesn't necessarily make them right in all circumstances. There are immature adults and immature teenagers as well as mature adults and mature teenagers.

      "Knowing more about life" IS a question of maturity. What you are describing is maturity and life experience, not intelligence. One can become more mature and gain more life experience without gaining (or losing) intelligence. They are two completely separate things. I'm glad your daughter asks you about things now. That's fantastic and I'm sure you give sound advice, but that doesn't mean she is less intellectually capable than you are . It just means that she knows that you are more likely to have experienced certain things and could potentially help her avoid mistakes and what-not.

    • 1 year ago
  • keithponder
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      keithponder  
    • Mariased:

      I never said that I was smarter than you or anybody else involved in this dialog. Find the comment where you think that l did. One of the brightest people that l know is my own 20 year old daughter. She's a lot farther advanced academically than l was at that same age and probably right now for that matter, but she still learning how to apply common sense and practicality in her own life. She rebelled at 18 and she's back already.

      I do not rule her life. I'm her Father. I offer guidance. What's wrong with that.

    • 1 year ago
  • Mariased
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      Mariased  
    • keithponder:

      "Anybody that can't see that a 57 year old man is far more intelligent than a 17 girl".

      When asked about it you repeated that you believe that age determines your intelligence.

      "No l meant what l said and l know many more adults that are far more intelligent than what you think you... ( I added "are" to the end of that phrase in my head when I read it)"

      Therefore, I assumed that because you stated that you believed that people who are older are inherently more intelligent than those who are younger and I read the statement above as "...I know many adults that are far more intelligent than what you think you are.." you applied that logic to yourself and decided that because you were older than I was that you were more intelligent. I apologize if I misinterpreted.

      "I do not rule her life. I'm her Father. I offer guidance. What's wrong with that"

      Absolutely nothing is wrong with that. I'm really sorry if my tone suggested that I thought something was. I was not being sarcastic in the paragraph where I mentioned that I'm glad you give your daughter advice and that I'm sure it's good advice. I can't stress enough that I didn't mean it to be rude.

      I now see that we were simply defining intelligence in a different way. You were basing your definition around life experience and maturity while I was basing mine on intellectual capacity alone. I had assumed that you were stating that I and other young people were intellectually inferior in MY definition of the word as well as immature and unexperienced on the basis of their numerical age. I was offended by that initially, but after reading the comment above I understand what you were trying to say.

      In conclusion, I was being a jerk over semantics. Sorry about that.

    • 1 year ago
  • keithponder
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      keithponder  
    • Mariased:

      Maybe you're right. Maybe I should have used the word "mature" instead of intelligent. But must of the men that l know that are 50 and over are far more mature and intelligent than the 20 year old people that I know.

      I stand to be correct. My bad.

    • 1 year ago
  • NiceN
  • NickerBocker09
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      NickerBocker09  
    • Wait wait wait....he got an anonymous phone call about his daughter dating hime........ well no wonder the police didnt do anything about it!! Im triple locking my doors, for all I know someone is gonna call PETA saying I ate puppies.

    • 1 year ago
  • Dejan_Croatia
  • Vierotchka
  • Mark701
  • keithponder
  • Vierotchka
    • +1
      Vierotchka  
    • keithponder:

      No, it is a totally realistic one - sexual initiation by older and experienced men is always preferable to having a first experience with a clumsy inexperienced youth - the latter don't know what they are doing, know nothing about women's bodies, are often brutal, tend to squeeze and maul the women's breasts, and have very premature ejaculations. Also, people tend to see themselves in others, so I find it interesting that you should think that older and experienced men are just dirty old men... In my personal experiences with older men, I never came across a dirty old man.

    • 1 year ago
  • keithponder
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      keithponder  
    • Vierotchka:

      Also, people tend to see themselves in others, so I find it interesting that you should think that older and experienced men are just dirty old men.
      -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Lady, you have completely lost it or maybe.... you never had it. Every response that you make is based on an assumption. I never said that all old men are dirty old men.Show me where I did, please. I simply said that "maybe a young girl could encounter a dirty old man", and for you or anyone to suggest that there are not any dirty old men at all in this world is simply insane. Maybe what's dirty to me and others too, is normal to you. I never ask you to go into this diatribe against young men in respect to what a woman gets from older men as oppose to they don't get from young men in sexual affairs. Again......TMI

      Why do you insist on resorting to assumptions and slander when you're back into a corner and you can't defend your comments and choose not to be honest?

    • 1 year ago
  • Vierotchka
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      Vierotchka  
    • keithponder:

      My responses are no more based on assumptions than are yours. You didn't simply say that "maybe a young girl could encounter a dirty old man", in actual fact, you said "How can you just freely and blatantly ignore the possibility of him just being a dirty old man."

      Again, I do not speak acronym, what on earth does TMI mean?

      Finally, there was no slander whatsoever in anything I wrote.

    • 1 year ago
  • keithponder
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      keithponder  
    • Vierotchka:

      You didn't simply say that ["maybe] a young girl could encounter a dirty old man", in actual fact, you said "How can you just freely and blatantly ignore the[ possibility] of him just being a dirty old man."
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      "possibility" means maybe. The word "possible" does not imply to an assumption of anything.

      GO TO WIKIPEDIA.....Possibility is the condition or fact of being possible (likely). The Latin origins of the word hint at ability. Possibility also refers to something that "could happen", that is not precluded by the facts,

      Once again, "TMI" means Too Much Information and "possibility" means...maybe or could happen.
      Again, this is more proof that you've lost it.

      All of your smart friends over at CERN never told you any of this ? My God lady

    • 1 year ago
  • Vierotchka
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      Vierotchka  
    • keithponder:

      Keith, Keith, Keith... you're in no position to teach me anything about English, and I certainly don't need to go to Wikipedia to know what possible and possibility means. I haven't lost it, your delusion notwithstanding - I did, however, touch a raw nerve in you. Tsk, tsk, tsk.

    • 1 year ago
  • keithponder
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      keithponder  
    • Vierotchka:

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZR64EF3OpA
      Behind that curtain of superiority is usually just some insecure soul pretending to be smarter than everyone else.
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      Actually I know that I'm the one touched a real raw nerve. Why should you go to Wikipedia? You hate being wrong. It's OK to be normal. I still love you.

    • 1 year ago
  • Vierotchka
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      Vierotchka  
    • keithponder:

      Keith my friend, I always welcome being proven wrong, it allows me to learn something, and I am always the first to admit my mistakes. On the other hand, I am seldom wrong. I am not insecure at all, and I don't pretend to be anything. I am indeed smarter than most, but there are many who are smarter than I am. From them, I learn a great deal.

    • 1 year ago
  • keithponder
  • Vierotchka
  • Pacard
  • Dejan_Croatia
  • Vierotchka
  • baby_im_bad_NEWS
    • 0
      baby_im_bad_NEWS  
    • It isn't right that he castrated him but it also isn't right that the cops didn't do anything (assuming that 17 is not considered old enough to consent in Germany). I once was a 17 year old girl, and thought it was cool to have things for older guys, although never quite that old. I look back and a lot of guys took advantage of me and my friend, it's really not okay. They should probably be in jail. You really don't know any better when you're young.

    • 1 year ago
  • Vierotchka
    • 0
      Vierotchka  
    • baby_im_bad_NEWS:

      The age of consent is much lower than 17 in Germany. As for me, I deliberately chose a man much older than myself for my first sexual experience, to ensure that it would be a good one - and it was. I dated him for a few months and learnt a great deal about the art of lovemaking and what pleasures a woman's body from him.

    • 1 year ago
  • keithponder
  • Vierotchka
    • +2
      Vierotchka  
    • keithponder:

      Why, is your wife watching your every post? What is wrong with stating the truth? What is wrong with being natural and open? I abhor false modesty and false prudery.

      Oh, and I don't speak acronym, I speak English, what on earth does "TMI" mean?

    • 1 year ago
  • keithponder
  • keithponder
    • -1
      keithponder  
    • Vierotchka:

      "sexual initiation by older and experienced men is always preferable to having a first experience with a clumsy inexperienced youth - the latter don't know what they are doing, know nothing about women's bodies, are often brutal, tend to squeeze and maul the women's breasts, and have very premature ejaculations"
      ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Discussing one's personal pleasures of loving making on this site, is my opinion, is "Too Much Information", and bringing my wife into this debate is totally out of line. I never gave you permission to do such a thing. My wife doesn't have the desire to participate in this kind of assembly nor does she peek over my shoulder for anything and likewise. Why do you assume the privilege of even bringing her into this ?

      I just don't think that the Current members would care to or approve of a Black man discussing the art of loving on any kind of thread. Obviously a double standard that you probably enjoy.

      Vierotchka, l am completely baffled by your comments. COMPLETELY.

    • 1 year ago
  • ArtConquistador
  • remanns
  • Stoneyroad
    • +8
      Stoneyroad  
    • "Two co-workers helped him"
      If you help someone cut a guy's nuts off to defend his daughter's honor,
      you deserved an upgrade from "co-worker" to "close friend of the family"

    • 1 year ago
  • toyotabedzrock
  • remanns
  • fun_size
    • 0
      fun_size  
    • Stoneyroad:

      I was thinking that too... how exactly does this topic come up at work anyway? What were they all just standing around the water cooler when one guy says "My daughter is dating some guy older than i am... wanna hold him down while i cut his balls off with a butter knife?"

    • 1 year ago
  • ImConcerned
  • Stoneyroad
    • +1
      Stoneyroad  
    • ImConcerned:

      Your avatar looks like it was abused by someone,
      but your profile says you have been a member of NAMBLA since 2000.

      57 yr old man + 17 yr old girl = Castrate the PEDOPHILE !!
      57 yr old man + little boy = Joke in your Profile ?

      i hope your avatar gets the help she needs, imconcerned for her well being.

    • 1 year ago
  • Vierotchka
    • -1
      Vierotchka  
    • ImConcerned:

      Oh please - maybe you were still a child at 17, but most young women are no longer children at that age. A man of 57 with a woman of 17 is not a pedophile - methinks you don't know what a pedophile actually is.

    • 1 year ago
  • UtopianSky
  • UtopianSky
  • ImConcerned
  • Vierotchka
    • 0
      Vierotchka  
    • ImConcerned:

      I didn't personally attack you, nor did I report you - I did find your infantile post to me in my email, but when I clicked on it, it was gone. It is obvious that you may be well over 17 by now but, judging by your reactions in this post and the one that is gone, you still are a child - and no, consensual sex between a man of 57 and a woman of 17 is not wrong. Just because you think it is doesn't make it so.

    • 1 year ago
  • ImConcerned
  • Vierotchka
    • 0
      Vierotchka  
    • ImConcerned:

      I neither attack you nor lashed out at you, neither did I insult you personally nor show you any disrespect - and all my responses are here, so I don't know what you mean by "original response". All I said was that maybe (that's the operative word) you were still a child at seventeen, and pointed out that at that age most women no longer are children. There is no attack, insult nor lashing out in that. Anyone reading our exchange here can see that the infantilism is yours and yours alone. Furthermore, you have nothing to teach me about respect, you seldom show it to others - and you have no orders to give me. As for who reported you, I know who it was (got a private message from them). Grow up.

    • 1 year ago
  • randallr01
    • 0
      randallr01  
    • UtopianSky:

      I couldn't agree more. People are way too hung up on the magic number of 18 in this country. Taylor Lautner is HOT & I wouldn't think twice about sexing him whether he's 16, 17, or 18.

      The USA has the highest age-of-consent law that exists..... and it's ridiculous.

    • 1 year ago
  • keithponder
  • Eddie_Miller
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