Jimmy Carter's Ready for a Gay President

who are they?

I can't remember the name, his cousin served as First Lady. Who was the other one?

Abraham Lincoln was gay? My Father is a Lincoln Scholar and I never heard that.

Ask your father about Abe's boyfriends: Billy Greene and Joshua Speed when he was young, and Capt. David Derickson while he was president.

Billy Greene wrote often about Abe's body- he said "His thighs were as perfect as a human being could be."

When Mary Todd was out of town, Derickson would share his bed, and wear Abe's nightshirt.

I believe you are confusing FBI director J Edgar Hoover, who was gay, with President Herbert Hoover who was straight.

Oh my. Dad did tell me about one writer that discribed him as "a bit lavender", whatever that means. But that is way over the top.

prettiest man on MSNbC imo.

You mean the way all of our straight, white Christian presidents have all "given preferential treatment and special considerations" to straights, whites, and Christians for the past two hundred years?

Well, I think that a lot of those preferential treatments and injustices have been now either been corrected or are now in the process of being corrected.

I imagine that many in the LGTB community, such as yourself I assume, would love to take advantage of a gay president as an opportunity to call for vengance and payback for all of the injustices for the past 200 years.

Am I on the mark on that or completely in left field?

Also, I didn't bring religion into this, but since you did UtopianSky, let's imagine how much hay our future gay president will make about civil rights situations such as this, and which side he/she will weigh in on:

http://chalcedon.edu/research/articles/court-voids-pennsylvania-hate-crime-law/

You are completely in left field. So far in left field it must be a scary, lonely place for you.

Just because people want equality that does NOT mean we want vengeance.

I read your article- it had no substance.

Charged with a felony for preaching the gospel? I'm not even familiar with the case and I can already tell that's a bald-faced lie.

That's like saying if a man straps a Bible to a brick and tosses it through a gay bar's window he was not arrested for vandalism, but for "distributing scripture".

As soon as I see the phrase "Advancing the Homosexual Agenda" I know I'm looking at the website of a hate group.

Try getting your news from someplace else, because it is obvious that was just a propaganda piece.

When I was a kid, there was a nutty religious family who trained their elementary school children to memorize Bible passages, go to the public schools (they were home schooled) and SCREAM the passages at the other children at the top of their lungs.

The children were told to stop, and were removed from school grounds.

The parents made a fuss that somehow THEIR freedom of religion was being violated.

So that one family you knew represents all Christians? Yep I can sense vengance...

Wow, that was ALL your bigotry, not mine.

Do you only see people as group labels, not as individuals?

That family was an example of people complaining that their religious freedom was being violated, when they were ACTUALLY violating the rights of others.

Just like the article you posted.

All of that flew over your head to the point that you portrayed it as a characterization of all Christians.

Did you understand any of what I wrote at all?

How about the part about tossing a Bible on a brick through a window? Did you grasp that? Even a bit?

No, I do not want vengeance, I want equality.

Dude, you need help.

First, stop reading bigoted hate-filled websites like the one you posted- that is where you get your groupthink mentality.

I said I had no problem with a gay president, and YOU injected race and religion into this conversation, but I'M the bigot?

WTF

Seems like it would be you who needs help lol

Yes, without a doubt you are a bigot.

1.) this statement:

"imagine that many in the LGTB community, such as yourself I assume, would love to take advantage of a gay president as an opportunity to call for vengance and payback for all of the injustices for the past 200 years."

The fear that minorities are all out to get you is bigotry.

2.) This article:

http://chalcedon.edu/research/articles/court-voids-pennsylvania-hate-crime-law/

Which you thought was a "civil rights situation" that anyone in their right mind would have to "weigh in on" shows you have no idea what civil rights even ARE.

Hey, you could act like a mature individual and state that you now realize you were wrong on either one of those things, but I doubt that is going to happen.

Well we can debate civil rights all day, but the facts are clear that YOU brought up those evil STRAIGHT WHITE, CHRISTIANS as if they are all out to get YOU, while I said I would have no problem with a gay president.

Nope- I did not bring them up as to say they are all out to get me.

Again- that is YOUR projection.

I brought them up because of YOUR hypocritical notion that I and other GLBT people would want to enact vengeance on straights, by pointing out that EVERY HUMAN BEING is in some demographic label. Do you think every human being is out to enact vengeance on all of the other labels?

You read things INTO what you read because of your bigotry.

And deep down, you know that.

And that is why you did not address what I said about the article you wanted me to read and comment on.

I didn't say that the LGTB community was out to get ME, YOU said that.

I'm perfectly ok with the LGTB community and a gay president, so long as their leaders aren't demanding preferrencial treatment. Pretty straight forward and honest, no?

It was YOU who let us know who YOU hate with YOUR comment on "WHITE STRAIGHT CHRISTIANS."

I said what I said in reference to people like YOU, who have never been shy about showing your total disdain for Christians, would likely call for revenge against those who YOU feel are responsible for injustices ie STRAIGHT WHITE CHRISTIANS. YOU said it I didn't!

There's no other way to interpret that, but you are going to try nontheless to hide your own bigotry aren't you?

LOL no one can ever say that you aren't entertaining UtopianSky that's for sure.

not so sure that mr sinclair is the most reliable of sources. http://www.mahalo.com/larry-sinclair

Newsflash: morons like you will believe anything.

Who let you out?

Photoshop.

Actually that's an insult to Photoshop lets go with Corel paint.

I think of it this way- when I was young, homosexuality was still classified as a mental illness. Gay bars were illegal, and were raided by cops the way meth labs are now.

I NEVER would have thought same sex marriage would ever even be considered a possibility by anyone, ever.

Yet now, it is an inevitability.

Progress comes faster than we think!