Repeal Of 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' Passes in the House

Remember once you join the Military, you no longer have Constitutionaly protected rights. You have sworn away your rights under the Constitution for rights and Duties under the Uniform Code of Military Justice. (Yes, the UCMJ has rights as well)

That's a darn good question given the Bradly Manning discussion. I wonder where ol Opressed1 is hiding now lol.

When did I say it wasn't? I am not sure where the hostility comes from.

I don't think you have read all my posts. I will give you the opportunity to do just that. You also posted below that this is a repeal of DADT, which it is not. This Bill does noe repeal DADT. I can see now who has a reading comprehension problem. You have no idea what I am talking about, and make assumptions as to what I am talking about. Go read the rest of my posts and then come back and we can continue this conversation.

Wealthy, adult, white, American-born, heterosexual men.

You might want to embrace your homosexual tendencies rather than fighting them. Your homophobia fools no one but yourself.

Seeetheart I am Gay and you think you got it all figured out. Lmao.

I think it's funny as all get out when people like you think you got it all figured out and then you find out you truly don't know shit....... lol

Not going to argue the numbers, but they can be viewed as suspect. I served for six years in the navy, and I knew a couple of gays and a bunch of guys who got "rainbow chits" (requested separation for homosexuality). The people that got the chits...were not gay. Its a dirty little secret, but when some wants out, and the command wants them gone too, the easiest way is to get them separated under DADT. That isn't to say DADT shouldn't be repealed...it should and its FUCKING INSANE its taken this long. I'm just saying that not everyone kicked out under DADT were gay nor were they actually "kicked" out...they requested it.

Thank you for that insight . And here I was thinking it was near impossible to get out just 'cause you wanted to ..

I agree. Straight, gay, bi, I don't wanna hear about it. That's your business, not mine.

It's interesting you chose to use the phrase "grand experiment". That was a term critics of the United States used in the early 1800's.

It was a "Grand Experiment" to build a nation on concepts like freedom and equality.

And yes, I realize you are against stuff like that.

No, because it is only the young who enlist, not the elderly.
The young are more progressive across the board.

I don't think it will change the demographics much.

If by that , you mean , people like you , then good .

I'm 14 dumbo......

I just wish you get your bug from a giftgiver.

Oh! yeah!..........

By abroad do you mean liberal coastal cities?

I wrote "across the board", meaning across all regions, not "abroad" as in overseas.

How is it possible for you to mishear something you are reading?

Nobody is saying they aren't equal. We just don't want to hear about it. OK? Do whatever you want, I don't give a shit, but I don't want to hear it. Do your job, great, do what you want in your free time, who cares, I don't want to know, that's your business.

What pure idiocy.

Do you have an office job? Do you have a picture of your wife on your desk? Do you wear a wedding ring? Do you walk around in the mall with your wife, holding hands, perhaps occasionally kissing? When someone asks "What did you do this weekend?" Do you say "My WIFE and I saw that new movie?"

So tell me- why do you feel the need to broadcast your heterosexuality to the rest of us? We just don't want to hear about it. OK? Do whatever you want, I don't give a shit, but I don't want to hear it. Do your job, great, do what you want in your free time, who cares, I don't want to know, that's your business.

THAT IS NOT EQUAL.

What you are actually saying is you want gays to be in the closet, living lives of shame and isolation. You don't want gays to flaunt their sexuality by bringing their husbands to the office party, or having a photo of him on their desk.

All the same stuff you do, but you take for granted because you and your kind have ALWAYS done it.

I'm not married so I can't answer. But I have dated and lived with women and never felt the need for society to affirm our relationships, whatever they may have been. It's none of your business who I fuck, and I really don't care who you fuck. OK? Fuck who ever you want to, I don't want to know, I don't care. You have seen I'm sure in this facebook world these girls that have to let the whole world know how in love they are with their husbands and that feel the need to let everyone know how happy they are. I feel the same way about them, I don't care, and I have no interest, keep it to yourself, I could care less.

John...the problem was for me, as a veteran, is that the UCMJ article that determined what is sodomy, and thus what could get you kicked out, is so fucking open ended that oral sex between a married couple is technically grounds for separation under sodomy. So obviously it goes that the actually article is not fairly and equally used throughout the military. From personal experience, I had a sailor that worked under me that was basically openly gay. He could not hide it as he basically sounded like the stereotype homosexual and his mannerisms were pretty feminine. No one in the division gave him shit about it because he was a really nice guy, if your worried about shit like this in a war zone your priorities are fucked up...and he was fucking huge. So yeah, he could handle himself...until we got an officer from the academy that couldn't wrap it around her head that the rest of the division didn't give a shit about him being gay. She was basically trying to make his life a living hell, screwing him over on leave, watch rotation,etc...until finally she made it known to us supervisors, she was going to file paperwork against him under DADT for his rack (he had photos of him and his boyfriend on a beach together or some shit...not close to the porn you would normally find in our racks).So she sets up a berthing inspection with the CO to fuck this dude over. Since our watch rotation would get worse without him...oh and he was our boy...FUCK THAT NOISE! So hours before the inspection, we deck our racks in the most insane shit possible. I had cheetah sheets and pics of male models, one dude actually tracked down She-ra sheets...another Powerpuff girls. Oh and the gay porn tacked around the berthing...it was like 4-chan out to sea. So yeah...she ended up looking like an ass, a bunch of us supervisors ended up in a shitload of trouble...but our homo wasn't touched...and more importantly...our watch rotation didn't get shittier because some uptight bitch couldn't have the professionalism to just do her damn job..

Jesus...that was a rant...sorry bro.

Which was the original intent of the bill, to leave them alone as long as they weren't hitting on other recruits or whatever. BUT now the military is actively hunting them down and seeking them out so they have to live completely private secret lives even when not on base.

There's a difference between looking the other way and actively pursuing recruits. The same way there was a 'difference' between 'separate but equal' laws and what ACTUALLY took place in the South at that time.

I'm against that, they should not be discriminated against of course. I just don't care and I'd rather not know. It's your business.

No problem. I understand. You are there to do a job. I don't give a fuck what you do on your free time, and I'm sure you don't care what I do on mine. Whatever, who cares, what does it matter. Can you do your job is the most important thing.

No one is talking about posting erotic pictures on Facebook or writing detailed kiss-and-tell novels. Just normal every day human interaction, which includes discussing your loved ones with co-workers.

I guess the problem is you don't get it because you just fuck people, you don't love anyone.

Hey, I was in the Military and every time we pulled into a foreign port I had to listen to a stream of my Shipmates sexual dalliances while on Liberty. Are you saying that the heterosexual men and women in the Military should be forced by law to keep their mouth shut or face prosecution and discharge?

LOVE IT! I remember it being like this as well. We had a guy who would wear rainbow flags and no one gave a shit. Though when we were in the Phillipines I had to CONSTANTLY be subjected to my MARRIED Supervisor's stories about all the whore he "fucked in the ass" while on Liberty.

I doubt the whole "I don't care if you're gay, I just don't want to hear about it" crowd would say the same to those asshole 1st classes and CPO's who cheated on their wives every single time they went on deployment.

It sounds to me like he doesn't care, he just doesn't F'in care & you people are tearing him apart for it. I don't want to hear about what goes on in my friends bedrooms, straight, gay, whatever.

Could be.

I don't know about by law, but I don't want to hear about them either.

Excellent!

The thing is if you are in the Military you are going to hear about sexual escapades. The thing at issue here is when a gay person talks about them, he/she can be arrested and charged under the UCMJ. Whereas the straight person will not be.

The thing is if you are in the Military you are going to hear about sexual escapades. The thing at issue here is when a gay person talks about them, he/she can be arrested and charged under the UCMJ. Whereas the straight person will not be.

I understand that. It's not right.

Love how you saved your guy . An individual that does good , is worth their weight in gold . Before my job was sent to Mexico , I was a supervisor in a factory . What kind of job you did was all that mattered to me . Looks , Didn't matter , Age Didn't matter . Performance . That is where it is at .

You are a tremendous fuckwad.

You have some serious psychological problems you need to deal with in your own life, in private, instead of broadcasting them here.

LOL

You might want to embrace your homosexual tendencies rather than fighting them. Your homophobia fools no one but yourself.

Ask and answered there green face.

+^d

thanks for the mention!