Community | December 15, 2010 | 35 comments

How Could God Condone Murder,Rape & Kidnap Of Women & Young Virgins? Judges:21

source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gwzit3nDISw

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Rape ,Murder & Kidnap In The Bible

Rape is one of the most heinous crimes imaginable. Yet few people know that the Bible often condones and even approves of rape. How anyone can get their moral guidance from a book that allows rape escapes me. Perhaps they have been lied to about the Bible and carefully detoured around all the nasty stuff in the Bible.

So grab your Bibles and follow along as I show you all the nasty rapes that your priests and preachers don't want to tell you about. Note that in many places in the Bible there are references to "taking a wife". Don't be fooled into thinking that these were voluntary marriages. This first quote clearly shows that murder and force were used to "take" these wives.

1) Murder, rape, and pillage at Jabesh-gilead (Judges 21:10-24 NLT)

So they sent twelve thousand warriors to Jabesh-gilead with orders to kill everyone there, including women and children. "This is what you are to do," they said. "Completely destroy all the males and every woman who is not a virgin." Among the residents of Jabesh-gilead they found four hundred young virgins who had never slept with a man, and they brought them to the camp at Shiloh in the land of Canaan.

The Israelite assembly sent a peace delegation to the little remnant of Benjamin who were living at the rock of Rimmon. Then the men of Benjamin returned to their homes, and the four hundred women of Jabesh-gilead who were spared were given to them as wives. But there were not enough women for all of them. The people felt sorry for Benjamin because the LORD had left this gap in the tribes of Israel. So the Israelite leaders asked, "How can we find wives for the few who remain, since all the women of the tribe of Benjamin are dead? There must be heirs for the survivors so that an entire tribe of Israel will not be lost forever. But we cannot give them our own daughters in marriage because we have sworn with a solemn oath that anyone who does this will fall under God's curse."

Then they thought of the annual festival of the LORD held in Shiloh, between Lebonah and Bethel, along the east side of the road that goes from Bethel to Shechem. They told the men of Benjamin who still needed wives, "Go and hide in the vineyards. When the women of Shiloh come out for their dances, rush out from the vineyards, and each of you can take one of them home to be your wife! And when their fathers and brothers come to us in protest, we will tell them, 'Please be understanding. Let them have your daughters, for we didn't find enough wives for them when we destroyed Jabesh-gilead. And you are not guilty of breaking the vow since you did not give your daughters in marriage to them.'" So the men of Benjamin did as they were told. They kidnapped the women who took part in the celebration and carried them off to the land of their own inheritance. Then they rebuilt their towns and lived in them. So the assembly of Israel departed by tribes and families, and they returned to their own homes.

Obviously these women were repeatedly raped. These sick bastards killed and raped an entire town and then wanted more virgins, so they hid beside the road to kidnap and rape some more. How can anyone see this as anything but evil?
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Women, according to the Bible were not even second class citizens. They were slaves for men and commanded to do whatever men told them to do or else they where murdered.

ImConcerned wrote......In Judges 21, He orders the murder of all the people of Jabesh-gilead, except for the virgin girls who were taken to be forcibly raped and married. When they wanted more virgins, God told them to hide alongside the road and when they saw a girl they liked, kidnap her and forcibly rape her and make her your wife!

Virgins in those days were children, because women were sold for livestock and married around the age of 10 to 12 years old. Theres your moral god. Theres your moral compass.
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35 comments // How Could God Condone Murder,Rape & Kidnap Of Women & Young Virgins? Judges:21 // Video

  • coxian_armada
  • Mark701
  • KSirys
    • +3
      KSirys  

    • Because the God people believe in, does not exist!! I do believe in Jesus though... i see him every holiday and at family gatherings, eating all the food!! =P

    • 1 year ago
  • jubal
    • +3
      jubal  

    • The bible is a document that can be twisted and interpreted to create over 30,000 registered denominations with the IRS in the US alone. It is used to justify all sorts of heinous acts and it also inspires many to actually follow what Jesus has said, but only if they are willing to let go of the old testament and the writings of Paul, who restored the rule of law over the freedom that Jesus brought to the most lowly.

      The bible cannot be relied upon to base your present or future reality because it is corrupted and more than likely created solely for the purpose of empire building.

      If being an atheist means you don't have any morals, then tell me why 99% of the people in prisons for violent crimes identify themselves either as Christians or religious?

      Less than 1/10th of 1% identify as atheists.

    • 1 year ago
  • mitekillem
    • -2
      mitekillem  

    • See...that's why I don't read the New translation. It uses "dummy" English, and makes the interpretation FOR YOU.

      http://bibleresources.bible.com/passagesearchresults.php?passage1=Judges+21%3A10...

      It never says the women were raped.

      I've not read the entire book of Judges, but from what I gather from these verses:
      The tribe of Benjamin attacked the people in Jabeshgilead(Shiloh). They took 400 virgins. The conquered people gave them more. But that was still not enough they wanted more. One of their Elders remembered a festival that would be coming up soon. He told the wifeless, remaining soldiers to snatch up any women found dancing at the festival. When each soldier caught a wife, they returned home.

      No where in these verses does it say that God commanded it.
      Based on the verses discussed here, your logic is faulty, and your argument has no legs.

    • 1 year ago
  • maizein
  • keithponder
    • +2
      keithponder  
    • mitekillem:

      I'm not arguing anything, but you excuse for the barbaric chauvinistic behavior is real weak. The tribe of Benjamin were supposed to have men of God that lived by the law. Where does it say that God condemn them for all of these heinous acts. He never did.

      What if people tried to do that today? Kill all of the men, women and children, then capture all of the young virgins, keep them as bounty for victory, and then rape them all for pleasure ?

      Your God really sounds like he (she) might really be Satan, if he actually does exist at all. None the less, you can have that version of God all to yourself. I want no parts of anything in resemblance to him.

    • 1 year ago
  • mitekillem
    • 0
      mitekillem  
    • keithponder:

      We can sit here and debate whether there is/or isn't a god until we're blue in the face, but I'm not doing that. I was just stating that the narrative in the article about the "women being raped" is false, and can't be proven. It never actually says that they were. It does say the women were "taken" against their will. Which can be more about ownership than sex. Back in the day, women were property, hence the suggestive ownership of the women. Land can be "taken" too, it doesn't mean that we have sex with it.
      -That's my argument. Not whether or not God condones it or not. It's the fact that the version of the bible the writer is reading from has been translated into dummy english, and very poorly. It puts shit in there that may not actually be the correct meaning.
      -And what if 50 years from now, the dummy version they put out is too hard for our Grand children to understand? -Will the dumb it down even more???

      I actually do not believe in the devil. I think that Satan is a metaphor for the carnal cravings of man/temptation/etc.

    • 1 year ago
  • Darryl_Wilson
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      Darryl_Wilson  

    • You need to pay more attention to what you read, not just look for reasons to denounce it. You will not see God giving the order to do any thing you have noted. The only reference to God is to the oath THEY MADE. No where does it say God accepted, let alone, approved of there oath. There are many instances in the Bible where oaths were made that God clearly did not approve of. King Saul made many oath to kill David, even though God said he would be king. God clearly was not behind those oaths, just like he was not behind the oath made in Judges 21.
      Just because it is in the Bible does not mean it is approved of. As a matter of fact a large part of the Old Testament are things God disapproves of. If you look at how this story ends you will see that in fact it shows that God is displeased with the was done; "the people did what was right IN THERE OWN EYES."

    • 1 year ago
  • cantucwearebrothers
  • keithponder
  • Darryl_Wilson
    • 0
      Darryl_Wilson  
    • keithponder:

      So what's your point? I don't trust televangelist. Most are just crooked snakes that claim to "proclaim the word of god" (it is lower case for a reason) when there true motives are to fatten their wallet.

    • 1 year ago
  • maizein
    • +3
      maizein  
    • Darryl_Wilson:

      right, right.... And what you got to say about Numbers 31:14-18: "Moses was angry with the officers of the army—the commanders of thousands and commanders of hundreds—who returned from the battle. "Have you allowed all the women to live?" he asked them. "They were the ones who followed Balaam's advice and were the means of turning the Israelites away from the LORD in what happened at Peor, so that a plague struck the LORD's people. Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man." Making sex slaves of women apparently is God's will.

    • 1 year ago
  • Darryl_Wilson
    • -3
      Darryl_Wilson  
    • cantucwearebrothers:

      That is where free will comes in. We are not puppets. God Does not control us. We must choose to do right or wrong. God tries to guid us, but in the end it is up to us. Let me also note that silence in the short term is not approval, and in the long run we will reap what we sew.

    • 1 year ago
  • cantucwearebrothers
  • Johnny_Los_Angeles
  • onemalefla
  • artemis6
  • cantucwearebrothers
    • 0
      cantucwearebrothers  

    • It's in the same manner that god could allow his son to be murdered: to serve a purpose.

      We can seriously convince ourselves of anything....that is what the bible proves.

    • 1 year ago
  • Xenzaka
    • 0
      Xenzaka  

    • Your God, which is the same God, featured in all religions, is a God capable of providing a universe big enough to include the concept of free will.

      This is where samsara, or the cycle of rebirth is.

      Ascending beyond UV light into the white light after a soul returns to source to wait again for another body.

      You and I have been here thousands of times before. Maybe this life it will be out last.

    • 1 year ago
  • CalgarC
  • ploomis
  • CalgarC
  • artemis6
  • Johnny_Los_Angeles
    • +8
      Johnny_Los_Angeles  

    • Because it is a silly antiquated work of fiction that no one in their educated right mind would take it as anything but just that. Its the 21 century people need to spend more time on understanding science and technology and not waste time on fairy stories.

    • 1 year ago
  • keithponder
  • sffsmessiah
    • +6
      sffsmessiah  

    • because god likes good tv like the rest of us. take some responsibility: it is humanity that murders, rapes, and kidnaps women and young virgins. figure out why people do these things to alleviate these problems. the bible was written by people to control what was considered morally acceptable.

      FREE WILL IS A BITCH.

    • 1 year ago
  • UtopianSky
    • +8
      UtopianSky  

    • For a thousand years, the only ones allowed to read the Bible were clergy- and since it was only duplicated in Latin, no one else could read it anyway.

      Then along came Gutenberg, the Julian Assange of his day, who posted the Bible in German with his own WikiLeaks machine, so all of the dozens of people who could read German could read the Bible for the first time. (Hey, literacy was not all that common then.)

      So, with people being able to read the Bible for the first time, they could interpret what it said for themselves instead of relying on the Church's official interpretation.

      And since the Bible was so nutty, there were LOTS of conflicting interpretations.

      And a handful of people who said "gee, this is nutty" and got killed for even suggesting the word of God was nutty.

      It took this long for the Church to finally lose it's socio-political stranglehold on all intelligent discussion of religion- that is why only now are people able to say "this is nutty!" and have other people say, "you know, it really IS nutty."

      And some day, we will finally be free of this superstition entirely.

      "And the day will come, when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the Supreme Being as his father, in the womb of a virgin, will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter."
      --- Thomas Jefferson to John Adams, Apr. 11, 1823

    • 1 year ago
  • AJILIVIZION
    • +4
      AJILIVIZION  
    • UtopianSky:

      Apocalypse is Greek for a disclosure of something hidden from the majority of mankind in an era dominated by falsehood and misconception. No joke. So it seems to me that we really are at the end of an age. It most definitely is not the end of the world and time, but just of THESE times. There will be chaos. It will be for the best.

    • 1 year ago
  • keithponder
    • +1
      keithponder  
    • Image

    • http://www.sometimestruthhurts.com/goodbook.html

      'Good Book' ?

      Many Christians are not aware of the many heinous, ominous atrocities condoned in the Bible by the sadomasochistic, morbid, totalitarian dictator they call God, YHWH, or Jehovah. This is due in large part to the fact that preachers do not objectively address these scriptures, if they address them at all (which most do not). So the purpose of this page is to shed light on the many scriptures in the Bible that self-proclaimed Christians may not be aware of. Scriptures which clearly condone murder, theft, slavery, rape, bigotry, segregation/apartheid, and supremacy ideologies .

      Some Christians argue that the many ominous atrocities to take place in the Bible are (mainly) in the Old Testament, and that they do not follow the Old Testament any longer (even though it’s bound within the same cover as the New Testament). However, Christians definitely adhere to the ‘Ten Commandments,’ which can only be found in the Old Testament. So, obviously, they pick and choose what they would like to follow from the Old Testament. Furthermore, New Testament verses clearly show that Christians are expected to continue following the Old Testament laws (Matt. 5:17-19; Luke 16:17; John 10:35; 2Tim. 3:16; Mark 7:9-13). Besides, their arguments do not change the fact that, according to the Bible, the God they ‘believe’ to exist has condoned much murder, theft, rape, slavery and bigotry, supposedly in benefit of ‘his people.’ Of course, this is all according to a book supposedly written by ‘his people.’ And this is the same God who, according to the Bible, claims to be the same now as he was then (Malachi 3:6), a God who condones murder, theft, rape, slavery, bigotry and segregation/apartheid.

      Lastly, concerning the murder, pillage, enslavement, and attitudes of superiority towards all other nations (besides Israel), Christians claim that the Israelites were only committing these blatantly ominous acts against people who the Israelites considered evil, wicked and a burden. As if that's some kind of an excuse. But how do we know if they were wicked and "filthy (as the Bible says)?" The murderous, thieving Israelites are the very ones who wrote the description of these people as being evil and inferior, after they murdered them and took their land (all according to the Bible, of course).

      The following scriptures make clear that the 'Good Book' is not 'all good:'

    • 1 year ago
  • pjacobs51
  • tverdell
  • keithponder
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