Bradley Manning's Health is Deteriorating
source: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/dec/16/bradley-manning-health-deteriorating
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As Julian Assange emerged from his nine-day imprisonment, there were renewed concerns about the physical and psychological health of Bradley Manning, the former US intelligence analyst suspected of leaking the diplomatic cables at the centre of the storm.Manning, who was arrested seven months ago, is being held at a military base in Virginia and faces a court martial and up to 52 years in prison for his alleged role in copying the cables.
His friends and supporters also claim they have been the target of extra-judicial harassment, intimidation and outright bribery by US government agents.
According to David House, a computer researcher from Boston who visits Manning twice a month, he is starting to deteriorate. "Over the last few weeks I have noticed a steady decline in his mental and physical wellbeing," he said. "His prolonged confinement in a solitary holding cell is unquestionably taking its toll on his intellect; his inability to exercise due to [prison] regulations has affected his physical appearance in a manner that suggests physical weakness."
Manning, House added, was no longer the characteristically brilliant man he had been, despite efforts to keep him intellectually engaged. He also disputed the authorities' claims that Manning was being kept in solitary for his own good.
"I initially believed that his time in solitary confinement was a decision made in the interests of his safety," he said. "As time passed and his suicide watch was lifted, to no effect, it became clear that his time in solitary – and his lack of a pillow, sheets, the freedom to exercise, or the ability to view televised current events – were enacted as a means of punishment rather than a means of safety."
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wally60
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our goverment is corrupt this man risked his life to show people the other side
of our goverment and it is a small piece of what they are really doing.save solitary for violent offenders.i love my country i just dont trust big goverment.
to much money changing hands our goverment is bought by the highest bidder
and we dont mean jack to the people in power. - 2 years ago
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wally60
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n537
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Watch "Restrepo" it will help you understand why people are upset and how ludicrous it is to believe you can achieve peace and democracy with bombs. It s a watch instantly on netflix. I urge those of you who feel this man should die to watch Restrepo objectively and come back with thoughts.
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n537
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likeamazing
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he's gonna spend the better part of his years locked up for treason, he's better off dead.
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likeamazing
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mjsmith11
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When I think of all the good people who are going to be murdered or, have already been murdered because of this traitor, I get depressed. There are so many good people who have put their lives and their family lives on the line and have been betrayed. Mothers and Fathers do not want their daughters to grow up and live life under the boot of taliban tyranny and due to this loser of a human, they will be killed for it. This "person" has dealt a serious blow against Freedom and people who are fighting to be Free.
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mjsmith11
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jubal
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mjsmith11:
"Mothers and Fathers do not want their daughters to grow up and live life under the boot of taliban tyranny and due to this loser of a human, they will be killed for it."
Is there a story you could link to about this? Where did this information come from?
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jubal
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likeamazing
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mjsmith11:
here here my friend. this guy is every good soldiers worst nightmare. I can't imagine what he was thinking. But he knew what he was getting himself into so he deserves whatever he is going through now. It's not like the army doesn't warn analysts about what will happen to them if they conduct treasonous acts...
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likeamazing
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lifestudentno83
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mjsmith11:
Explain how Manning's leaks were a danger to troops instead just of embarrassing to American Government. Please, because none of the information leaked was about troop positions or squad formations, which WOULD potentially get someone killed if given to the ENEMY and not the general populace.
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lifestudentno83
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artemis6
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A clear sign of a guilty conscience and malicious spirit . They are so hateful and embarrassed , they want him erased , and that is what is happening , slowly and surely . The Bradley Manning that stands trial , will NOT be the one who first was captured . He will be as they wish to portray him , Mad . Mad , as in not playing with a full deck . Part of me says " there has GOT to be something we can do " . I find it horrific that some here would condemn him to what they could not certainly stand themselves . He hasn't even been charged .... Is humanity so cheap ?
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artemis6
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jubal
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artemis6:
Sadly its become like the Roman circus...people thirst for blood and vengeance.
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jubal
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Sarah_Honea
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TO Opressed 1 and those like him/her: WAKE UP SLEEPY HEAD!
Are you familiar with the Nuremburg trials, hmm? In the grand scheme of things Nuremburg proved that any loyalty, oath, and duty that went against a persons and or groups human rights HAVE NOT A POT TO PISS IN!
Any officer regardless of rank must uphold the human rights of others before the orders of his superior officer. If the CO told a private to Kill and rape women and children. Two things can happen. He can say NO! and go to Leavenworth. or He can say yes and be prosecuted for being a vile rapist. the Judge will say: You knew that doing these things to women and children went against the Geneva Convention, You knew that this went against the conventions and laws held by the country of residence. Therefore yoiu should rot in prison, with your CO!
I used the extreme but it still stands, our countrymen have been told do things by Washington that are down right EVIL and it is the PRIME DIRECTIVE of every officer to Uphold the CONSTITUTION and its IDEALS and not the SLIMEBAG Orders of Sycophants and Charlatans fornication and wrapping themselves around the flag.
STOP FREEBASING OFF GROUPTHINK YOU COWARD!
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Sarah_Honea
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oppressed1
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You guys are the ultimate pussies. I get tat you cant live without Starbucks, but give me a fucking break. This kids has 3 square meals a day, and books to read. We arnt pulling this dudes pubic hair out for answers. He is in the best possible care you guys could ask for.
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oppressed1
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RaceBannon
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Hmm how about this:
Anyone seen the bourne movies? Or any of those types of spy thrillers, they usually follow a similar pattern. Anyway lets say the movie was redone to go with the patriotic sentiments:
Act 1. Jason Bourne goes all anti government, the chase begins
Act 2. 5 minutes into the chase Jason realizes he's a traitor gives up the chase quickly recites the pledge of allegiance, a tear rolls down his eye and he's rolled into some jail.
Movie ends roll credits
That movie would suck
My point is we cheer for this anti-hero, we cherish him/her/it because they reveal the truth. I assume a good amount of us grew up reading robin hood, books by George Orwell, Mark twain, Honore de Balzac, oscar wilde and a variety of philosophies including the the rights of man. How come these cherished values are so readily tossed away in the name of loyalty to the government? Have we lost our minds? In the past great people with dangerous ideas/techniques have been murdered in the name of national security, Socrates always comes to mind. I know we still mourn those losses and yet some of us seem to forget the lessons behind them.
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RaceBannon
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jahbini
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RaceBannon:
Yes, RaceBannon, we forget. Basically because we are all pussies that want to rely on the Leviathon to tell us what to do in all these matters.
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jahbini
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n537
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Dismal. What's even more dismal than the inhumane conditions bradley is dealing with, are the people on this forum trying to rationalize the governments actions with bullshit like:
"Well he s a soldier he knew the rules he deserves it"
How blind can you be? This is seriously fucked up in your face human rights violations and there are actually tools out there who want to rationalize it. Fuck protecting the government, protect the people especially people like this man; who are sacrificing everything so that everyone, including the assholes can see the U.S. Government for what it is: a wolf in sheeps clothing. Go ahead sheep follow your fanged shepard. - 2 years ago
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n537
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mjsmith11
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I am surprised that this jerk is still alive.
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mjsmith11
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keithponder
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The enemy is not who we thought it was.
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keithponder
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jeffreyak
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keithponder:
Its exactly who I thought it wad.
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jeffreyak
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keithponder
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jeffreyak:
LOL
typing on a cellphone ..........hnfkjhlf c,lo
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keithponder
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lifestudentno83
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"They came first for the Communists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist.Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist.Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew.Then they came for me
and by that time no one was left to speak up."
-Martin NiemöllerThe assaults on Manning and Assange are assaults on the rights of the people. We deserve to know how our country runs, and the boneheaded mistakes they make. Democracies are made to be accountable to the public, not the other way around.
Wake up all you false-flag patriots, because in time you will outlive your purpose and they will take away all of your rights as well.
Why do you think that Manning was taken in? Because he released "secret documents"? NO! It was to teach anyone else who might be inspired to follow Manning's example: "We will take you in, and we will kill you, maim you, or make you suffer". He wasn't giving away troop positions; he was informing people of sensitive information the GOVERNMENT did want us to know. Embarrassing stuff that will make you question them and reconsider allowing those officials to continue leading.
I hope a thousand more Bradley Mannings pop up, each with more damning information that the next, maybe then this country will finally get it.
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lifestudentno83
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remanns
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lifestudentno83:
"Embarrassing stuff that will make you question them and reconsider allowing those officials to continue leading".
yep. +^d
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lifestudentno83:
Funny to think what the ©Republicant's were shredding or burning before they turned over the house. Dick must have had his special envoy of specialists make sure nothing survived.
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dalistuff
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Saladin
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Anything longer than a month in solitary confinement does permanent damage to the human psyche and body.
News flash to the idiots saying it's whining, you wouldn't last three days in solitary. There's a reason that it's considered a punishment in prison.
When they say he can't exercise, they do not mean that people are stopping him. That means he's been shoved into a room the size of a broom closet and doesn't even have enough space to do anything.
Fuck this brouhaha culture in the United States. We're like a bunch of fucking gorillas in this country and we look more and more like an axis power every day. Grow up people, we're supposed to be the good guys.
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MoonLoon
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Saladin:
I used to think that you were extremely intelligent and had something to offer. But increasingly, I have been disappointed. I have lived in an isolated environment for five years due to security issues. Yet I still manage to function. I will admit a failure in certain emotional/mental functions due to this isolation and have reported it to my employer. Three days is a walk in the park., try 6 to 12 months at a time. I feel sorry, for Bradley, as he clearly appears to be cut from a more delicate cloth.
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MoonLoon
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jeffreyak
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MoonLoon:
You are a Loon.
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jeffreyak
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jeffreyak
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MoonLoon:
How can you speak of this mans integrity. He was obviously cut from a cloth of bravery and loyalty to humanity.
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jeffreyak:
not from the cut of soldier this faggot needs to be executed.
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Saladin:
Give me a break man. This dude is a fucking traitor, I dont care what you say about his actions. He has signed numerous documents and sworn to not releasing these documents. He is military MI he signed up for this shit. He knew the punishment for his actions. You guyes act as if hes some bad-ass for releasing these documents.
If you are going to be a bad ass live up to the consequences. Dont be some pussy who is afraid.
He should man up and except death for his actions. This would be the only way to save face with the rest of the world.
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oppressed1:
WAKE UP SLEEPY HEAD!
Are you familiar with the Nuremburg trials, hmm? In the grand scheme of things Nuremburg proved that any loyalty, oath, and duty that went against a persons and or groups human rights HAVE NOT A POT TO PISS IN!
Any officer regardless of rank must uphold the human rights of others before the orders of his superior officer. If the CO told a private to Kill and rape women and children. Two things can happen. He can say NO! and go to Leavenworth. or He can say yes and be prosecuted for being a vile rapist. the Judge will say: You knew that doing these things to women and children went against the Geneva Convention, You knew that this went against the conventions and laws held by the country of residence. Therefore yoiu should rot in prison, with your CO!
I used the extreme but it still stands, our countrymen have been told do things by Washington that are down right EVIL and it is the PRIME DIRECTIVE of every officer to Uphold the CONSTITUTION and its IDEALS and not the SLIMEBAG Orders of Sycophants and Charlatans fornication and wrapping themselves around the flag.
STOP FREEBASING OFF GROUPTHINK YOU COWARD!
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Sarah_Honea
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mjsmith11
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oppressed1:
You are 100% correct!
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mjsmith11
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jeffreyak:
WHY ARE SO MANY GOOD AMERICANS DEFENDING THIS JERK??? he's getting exactly what he deserves! how anyone could call this guy a hero is just as baffling as the republicans shooting down the 9/11 first responders bill...
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likeamazing
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likeamazing
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oppressed1:
i agree, he should be executed. but don't start tossing around hateful words like "faggot" otherwise no one here will listen to you when you have something "unhateful" to say...
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likeamazing
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Sarah_Honea
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I agree with Claybird and not with MoonCrazy. The point is that the cables were not even deemed top secret. this was chatter. What the Gubs are doing is making an example of anyone who wants to Leak, and, any journalist who reports any and ALL leaks..
USA to the rest of the World: Anyone who tells the truth about our lies is going to Die.Suffer, or Both. That goes to foreign nationalas too. No one is safe from Big Brother. Whether yoiu are for the party or not.
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Sarah_Honea
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jubal
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Sarah_Honea:
Just as George Orwell said "In an empire of lies, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act."
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jubal
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jahbini
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jubal:
I have just been contacted by Mr. Orwell from his grave.
He says that it is no longer a revolutionary act: It is simply disregarded in the chaos of some mythical 'Topical dot com'
Chaos accepts truth and tears it to shreds.
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jahbini
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claybird121
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Here's what i get from this situation.
There's a whole bunch of people, and they claim to have the right to rule an even larger bunch of people. Now, this bunch of rulers (we'll call "A") likes to parlay 'secret' information with other people around the world who also believe they get to rule whole bunches of other people. 'A' people get to extort money/property, restrict movement and bodily freedom, and basically farm this other larger group that for some reason allows this. 'A' has legitimated this because the people that make it up are hand picked from the ruled larger group of people, somehow making being ruled ok.
One of these people revealed a bunch of embarrassing information about 'A', and 'A' is embarrassed and doesn't want it's legitimacy as rightful human farmers to be questioned.
So they freakout and basically torture another human, all the while invoking a mythology of 'nationalism', 'patriotism', and protecting 'A's' human cattle.
"War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, Ignorance is Power" - 2 years ago
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claybird121:
Exactly where I stand. Thats a BIG +^d
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remanns
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noxidereus
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Our government sucks. We are total pieces of shit but most of us still shove flags up our asses and scream "America is the best country in the world!"... because we are collectively stupid. None of the things that we are supposed to be proud of in America are actually true. We are not free. We are slaves. In being nationalistic almost the point of religion, we are celebrating our own extreme ignorance and stupidity.
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noxidereus
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MoonLoon
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noxidereus:
I choose a very small flag if asked, hopefully with lubricant.
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MoonLoon
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jubal
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noxidereus:
Wrapped in a flag and carrying a fucking cross....that is more like it.
Its like that scene in the exorcist when Linda Blair shoves that cross some where and screams "F me J" "F me J".....that is our life under the current fascism of Christianity, Government, and Corporate Capitalism in this country.
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jubal
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ras_menelik
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RT @BBCBreaking: Julian Assange confirms Wikileaks pledged $50000 to defence fund of US Army private Bradley Manning
Twitter - seconds ago - 2 years ago
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MoonLoon
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ras_menelik:
Good for that, but I thought that Bradley would be assigned a military defense attorney, so the claim of a $50,000 defense fund could be another scam by Julian?
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MoonLoon
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jahbini
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MoonLoon:
In a Military Tribunal, you do NOT want a 2nd LT to be your advocate.
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jahbini
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MoonLoon
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jahbini:
Does the defendant have a choice to choose a civilian lawyer?
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MoonLoon
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jahbini
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MoonLoon:
AFAIK, yes.
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jahbini
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MoonLoon
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Let me add some more comments. This fool embarrassed his superiors, his service, his President, and the U.S. Government, and everyone expects him to be treated with kindness? I have some advice for everyone; Do not poke a Grizzly Bear with a sharp stick. Unless, the bear is in a cage. Julian has likely made the same mistake and his supporters are well advised to seek other avenues for revenge rather than the internet.
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MoonLoon
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MoonLoon:
Two words for you: Human Rights.
Unless you don't want the US to be part of them... so then you are as tyrant as fuckin North Korea.
Maybe hes doesn't deserve good treatment while a prisioner, maybe he deserves to die, but there are RIGHTS, BASIC HUMAN RIGHTS and HES RIGHT to be treated humanely in this facilities. The USA is OBLIGED to treat him with human basic needs, including a pillow, a blanket, a book, and able to exercise.
Of course, its because of people like you, that USA has fallen on morality, which eats a society alive.
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Juas
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MoonLoon
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Juas:
Read my comments below. He has a bed, 3 meals a day and a blanket. He can roll up his towel for a pillow. He is military and should be trained to face hardship. Unless, he is a little pussy, unwilling to face up to his crimes, exactly what was he thinking when divulging this information?
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MoonLoon
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MoonLoon:
I am not "for" the bear. fuck the bear. Clear ?
p.s. There WAS NO "stick" , just a guy taking sketches and notes on the bear and bear nature/behavior. The bear just tries to maul anyone and anything it cant sit on; it wants EVERYTHING ELSE in a cage. It keeps trying.
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remanns
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MoonLoon
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remanns:
This young man was an emotionally deprived fool, entrapped by an experienced reporter and betrayed by a hacker, supported by the Chinese Gov't. If you take the time to read the transcripts between Bradley and Lamo, it becomes evident that Bradley was being seduced into revealing confidential information. There are many ways to blow the whistle, but this was the most idiotic.
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MoonLoon
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remanns:
Exactly what does the stupid comment "Clear" mean? I can read and understand any comment that you are capable of making. Clear! You little fnuck!
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MoonLoon
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remanns
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MoonLoon:
just checking. +^d. ; shows strength of character !
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remanns
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remanns
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MoonLoon:
p.s. He was a little naive, granted.
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remanns
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remanns:
He was used and is now being abused. It is sad to say the least.
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remanns:
"just a guy taking sketches and notes on the bear and bear nature/behavior." By this statement, you imply that Manning knew what was in the files he gave to Assange. I don't think he did. He may have had an idea of what was in them, but do you really think he went through the whole thing before he committed treason by giving these files to a foriegn entity with the express purpose of doing damage to the U.S.? Regardless of how you feel about the whole thing, this man willfully committed treason during war time, and should face a firing squad.
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MoonLoon:
Holy fuck you are stupid.
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dustinfineout:
I love getting responses like this. It reinforces by belief in the current state of education in the U.S.
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MoonLoon
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MoonLoon:
Wow, and i thought the U.S. prided its self on a supposed fair, uniform, and just legal system.
But apparently you feel that depending on who the defendant is and who the prosecutor is, torture and the subversion of the legal process and the bill of rights is ok because you don't like the guy.Great.
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claybird121
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MoonLoon:
You go from claiming Manning 'poked a bear' or something (that he was an instigator and deserved his torture) to claiming he was duped and manipulated.
Which is it?
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claybird121
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snarly:
I disagree
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dustinfineout
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MoonLoon:
Yes, you are a narcissist. You like to interpret all responses to confirm your own self schemata. Good job.
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dustinfineout
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telcod
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MoonLoon:
Welcome to america, grasshopper. Where you are not exploited, you are redundant. No victims only volunteers.
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telcod
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snarly:
Not war time, occupation time. Nobody seems to get this right. If you go along with the war thing, then america, was preemptive without any clear threat. Just made it up, we did. But if you say something often enough the chattering monkeys, will repeat it. The Germans used this recently to good effect. Lessons lost in the land of amnesiacs.
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telcod
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telcod:
You heard it first from Telcod -- "Just made it up, we did."
Well, actually, we've figured this out several times: Gulf of Tonkin, Battleship Maine, Overthrow of the Hawaiian Monarchy, bla, bla, bla.
And you are SO right about this land of amnesiacs.
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jahbini
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telcod:
This is a fact that seems to escape most people.
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MoonLoon
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claybird121:
The BEAR in my comment is the U.S. government. He was manipulated by Lamo and Julian for their personal benefit. Thus, for your edification, I was suggesting that military personnel do not violate their sworn duty to the military, unless they are willing to face severe consequences. (as Bradley has).
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MoonLoon
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snarly:
If he was out to "attack and do damage", THAT would be my "poking with stick" analogy. I don't think he did that, and I don't think that was his intent.
not -"EMBARRASSING superiors" is not an "attack",....though it may "provoke".Everything that annoys is not necessarily an attack, much less an attack with intent to wound.
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remanns
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MoonLoon
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dustinfineout:
Sorry Dustin, I am a Christian. I gave up Narcissim, years ago.
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MoonLoon
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remanns:
How can turning classified information over to a foriegn entity for the express intent of publication not be an attack? Maybe, if he can prove he went through every file and knew what was included in every cable, then, maybe, it might not be considered an attack, but I dont think that's the case here. And one last question, since when is a computer researcher qualified to make a diagnosis on someone's health just by looking at them?
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snarly
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snarly:
Information is INHERENTLY '"free", and the withholding of it "lies" (heh) somewhere between modesty,embezzlement, and neurosis,....depending on the motive.
NO ONE "owns/has title to" information; the freeing of it CAN NOT be equated with assault. - 2 years ago
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jahbini
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MoonLoon:
Isn't Hubris another name for narcissism? You certainly got hubris! Hey, don't take offense -- When you got it, flaunt it baby!
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jahbini
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jahbini:
Hubris and humility go hand in glove. A kind lesson for you,while you are going through life.
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MoonLoon
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jahbini
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MoonLoon:
We like kind lessons. Otherwise mommy takes us out of the kindergarten.
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jahbini
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jahbini:
Now you get it. Although, I detect a certain sarcasm in your response, that is condescending to me. I suspect that you are enamored with your own superior intelligence. Yes? If that is the case, we will up the ante of our discussions. However, do not expect anymore politeness from me, as your arrogance is not supported by your intelligence and the lack of depth of your discussions. Mommy may need to take you out of the kindergarten, maybe for a piss, I am sure she had to do this for you many times. Assuming, that you can piss while standing, which I doubt.
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MoonLoon
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jahbini
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MoonLoon:
When shown the ambiguous fist of perhaps, some tend to find their own worst enemy.
While I don't often drink beer, when I do it is on the battlefield of humor, Stay humorous, my friend.
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jahbini
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Well I guess he should be provided with first class accommodations at a forward outpost in Afghanistan. That is so much better for your sanity. While I believe every prisoner should be treated fairly, this sounds like whining.
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BrushwithDeathToothpaste:
He is not the criminal, the evil doers he has exposed are.
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jeffreyak
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onemalefla:
This is true. I'm sure we have many men and women in the military who thought it would be a more patriotic and respectable job when they entered into it. Unfortunately it is used for corporate greed and evil doing? LOL Evil doing.
- 2 years ago
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jeffreyak
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MoonLoon:
Real life is hunting coons at midnight (sounds cool!) -- I'm not sure that's part of this guy's solitary.
And as far as whining, it sounds more like he is disoriented. Solitary will do that for you. Butchering hogs and selling calves tend to make you more alert, are you suggesting that Julian might want to look into that option?
- 2 years ago
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jahbini:
I feel sorry for Bradley, as I suspect that he was used by both Lamo and Julian. He seems to be a young man seeking friendship and recognition. He did however, make a terrible mistake at the encouragement of Lamo. Then for Lamo to pass the information to Wiki and then alert the FBI is unacceptable. Then clearly, Wiki (Julian), had no concerns about ruining this young man's life. You have two mature men that have ruined this young man's life and maybe even given him a death sentence to satisfy their own egos. Bradley is a victim and they are the predators. Thus, I have no respect for Julian or Lamo, as their sources should have been protected. Personally I hope both Lamo and Julian suffer the same fate as Bradley.
- 2 years ago
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MoonLoon
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jahbini:
That life was tough, but fun. I just hate whiners. Not that Bradley is whining to my knowledge, it is just the ridiculous post making these claims.
- 2 years ago
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MoonLoon
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noxidereus
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MoonLoon:
Sounds to me you are doing most of the whining here. Nobody gives a shit about your hardships. They're no excuse for you to be a total prick.
- 2 years ago
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noxidereus
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noxidereus:
I choose to be prick, however, in your case it is likely not an option.
- 2 years ago
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telcod
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onemalefla:
Good point. Had some trails in Nuremberg about that issue.
- 2 years ago
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telcod
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telcod
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jeffreyak:
I suppose my German relatives felt the same way back in the day when they joined up. Same as it always was. America, Germany, North Korea, all the same. Just a matter of who has the best PR and who can spin the BS. Let's see, I know those weapons of mass destruction are going to show up every day. Better to fend off the incompetency charges then tell the truth, "Were going to fuck you up, invade your country, occupy you, set up a government approved by us and control your oil and blame it on Sadam, former friend of George Bush."
- 2 years ago
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telcod
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MoonLoon:
I think it was Lee Marvin in the Professionals, who said, "I am a bastard, an accident at birth, but you sir, are a self made man." Nothing personal, just was reminded about it when I saw your prick comment.
- 2 years ago
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telcod
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telcod:
I just got back online, as I have to shut the generator down every 6 hours for a cool down period. Lee Marvin was a great actor and WW2 veteran. I have not copy righted my retort, so you are free to use it when neccessary.
- 2 years ago
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MoonLoon
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jeffreyak:
While the evil-doers that have been exposed may be criminals, this man took an oath when he joined the military, and he has broken it. He has allegedly broken federal law, and has done so knowingly and willingly. He knew the consequences when he preformed his actions, and he still did it. Good for him. But don't expect to be treated any differently from any other criminal.
- 2 years ago
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snarly
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MoonLoon:
As I understand it, Bradley started bragging about his actions in a chat room, and got turned in. Maybe he should have kept his mouth shut.
- 2 years ago
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snarly:
He isn't being treated like any other criminal. He hasn't had a trial whatsoever yet he is still in prison. Explain that MR Oath. Everyone he was involved in exposing swore an oath, why are they not in prison awaiting a trial?
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snarly:
Well that is a fact that we can agree on. "Loose lips, sink ships"!
- 2 years ago
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MoonLoon
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He gets one hour per day out of the cell. This is usually reserved for exercise, is the article claiming that he is denied exercise during this period?
- 2 years ago
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MoonLoon:
He is allowed to walk down a hallway during that hour. Other than that he is monitored by infrared camera to ensure he doesn't exercise. He's been denied sheets and a pillow case, not a blanket and pillow. You should read before you start spouting bullshit.
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dustinfineout:
Well I should apologise for your particular insight. I have already stated that he had a blanket, and God forbid he had no pillow case, and why would an "infrared camera" be necessary to photograph a prisoner walking down the hall? But, I have yet to read any posts that describe what you are claiming. Prisoners held in isolation are typically allowed 1 hour per day for exercise, unless they have been unruly, which he has not. Missed your meds today didn't you?
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MoonLoon
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MoonLoon:
Again, you need to read before spouting. The infrared camera is to monitor him while he's IN the cell to ensure he doesn't exercise for the 23 hours per day he's confined to it. It's not a secret, go read. Do you need me to get links for you? Here's a good one to start with www.google.com.
Yeah you fail at reading comprehension, must have been I missed my meds. Idiot.
- 2 years ago
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MoonLoon:
He doesn't get to exercise....PERIOD.
- 2 years ago
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jubal
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jubal:
Are you certain, "Jubal". As normally the one hour out of the cell is reserved for exercise.
- 2 years ago
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MoonLoon
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dustinfineout:
Sheets and pillow cases are not allowed because prisoners can hang themselves with these items.
- 2 years ago
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MoonLoon
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telcod
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jubal:
I don't exercise either, yet.
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