The Death of the Liberal Class

If history is any indicator, when the middle class does wake up, things will get very ugly very fast.

It's just a shame, though, as we could not necessarily have a central deity, but a core ideology. Imagine springing up secular, atheist or agnostic "community centers," where we would provide aid or have events with no strings attached--merely promoting conversation or the discussion of issues. For my own sake, I desperately wish there was a group or community of local agnostics in my area.

Were it not for the Church, the GOP would've died long ago.

Jake: I couldn't agree more with you. I have had people trying to ram Christianity down my throat for years and I keep telling them the people I see who are so-called "Chistians" are not the kind of people I would ever like to be around.

We need to start opening Secular Humanism centers all around the country where people can converse, socialize, and organize.

but that would be... SOCIALISM!... (gasp)...XD

In that case, we could all be immediately added to the terror watch list and branded as enemy combatants, so that the new Homeland Security Nazis could kill us at will.

Yeah as soon as we start gaining any real influence, they'll try to shut us down. Maybe even kill a few of us...

I think Chris Hedges is right when he says that the political predators are terrified of popular movements. That is why, he says, Nixon signed into law healthcare and environmental legislation. That is why, I believe, the "Don't Ask, don't tell" law was repealed: the Congress is fearful of the organized movement for gay rights. When the middle class gets off of its flabby posterior and starts to organize for living wages, fair tax structures, real health care reform, and revamping of our corrupt campaign finance system, Congress will rush to do what's right. Until then, they'll continue to laugh in our faces.

Eh I'm not sure about that, I think of it more as appeasing us. They can afford to settle on this because it doesn't really affect them at all. When we try to hurt them where it counts, like their bank accounts and the power they have, that's when they'll react...

You guys are amazing. thank you, very brave, very true.

Maybe we can get some bailout money for Mega-Jesus stores in convenient neighborhood locations.

not taxes for Jesus over 20 feet

Trickle down religion?

seems to me that all the conservatives have all the money? maybe its just all the pretending ,

so what have you done to better this country? instead of posting mindless bullshit on the internet, why dont you go out an asassanate obama already? instead of posting stupid photoshoped pictures of him to prove some vague, near sighted political point, why dont you go out and practice what you preach? ill tell you why. Cause youre a racist pussy, who hides behind stupid pictures and avatars. ive noticed you never reply when people call you out, you just regurgitate more nonsense on the thread. please explain to me (in full sentences) how you can equate every problem this country has to the evil hippy liberals. It makes no sense to me how can fault liberal for absolutely everything, and consistently turn a blind eye to all the injustices white republicans have committed againt your interests. as of now, i believe your hatred towards obama comes from your sister or daughter dating a man of different color. maytbe im wrong, but there is definitely a cause of your deep seated hatred for obama and liberals, a reason that youve never quite expressed. so please, explain so i can stop losing sleep at night while wondering what drives you to post such nonsense on this website.

i agree but everyone is afraid to die ,........... how to assemble and come together and do something would be the next step

Is trolling with insults your idea of fighting?

Actually, I get the impression that ayipis really loves Obama, but being the closeted homosexual that he is, he must pretend to hate him. It's complicated. Self loathing is really very sad. He needs to embrace his gayness and stop being so bitter.

this is rich coming from the side that whined for 8 years when Clinton was in office. Even when they got back in they couldn't let it go for another 8 years and now that a democrat is president again, many of them have lost their minds and joined the Tea Party with scarcely-veiled threats of armed revolt. Save it, pal, the Republicans have got whining down to an art form. You're sore losers and worse winners.

Ayipis, nature abhors a vacuum. If the liberal class disappears, it will likely be followed by an ultra liberal class that even I would worry about. Think about that before you shoot your mouth off (again).

I'm curious- did you watch the video (all 45 minutes) or are you just here to piss on our campfire?

I smell the bitterness that can only come from erectile dysfunction.

I am just curious......is this video any different from all the other videos you post??

and judging by the posting on your campfire..your scouts are already pissed off to begin with...LOL..

so again..anything different??

if you guys want me to change..please change the venue..LOL i mean THIS IS...YOUR CAMPFIRE..

that sound like it came from experience..LOL

And you still didn't answer my question. You're just a garden variety bully with no substance. See ya.

Not having a penis actually limits my personal experience. But don't fret, ayipis, they have pills for that.

It is better to remain silent, to allow others to assume you are a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

Love the picture, ayipis. I can't wait to see Michelle as Lois Lane, typing at her reporter's desk at the Daily Planet.

This hopeless state to which you refer is what leads me to propose that we must hang tight with our neighbors and build communities of trust. These communities must not be online, where interlopers and propagandists can distort our intentions, but must instead be in real time with the folks who live next door, run the local businesses, and whose kids play together on soccer teams.

Our local communities must subvert the great mass propaganda machine by bonding in economic, ethical, and physical ways. We have to speak with each other on the sidewalks and in coffee shops; we have to barter for goods and services. we have to create art, build homes, develop markets, and instill moral values into our kids. We have to flip the "off" switch on the mindless and insatiable advertising machine that threatens to swallow our souls.

Baby, I am with you but this is easier said than done. I do what I can. I am depressed about the way of the world, but I can never seem to be comfortable with giving up.

I have always had a hard time classifying my own political beliefs, because I agree with many good ideas, regardless of who speaks them. It is certainly true that he who pays the piper calls the tune (a classic aphorism if ever there was one).

I know you have the heart of a lion.

I do try. And I am with you in your struggle.

Sounds like "tribes",....and not the stupid nihilistic entropic "there can be only one vote everyone out " tribe,....but REAL tribes,....where virtually everyone is necessary for social functionality, if not survival itself as well. Hmmmm,.....basically,.....for it. Count me in.

But i'm taking my laptop, till it craps out,.....and someone needs to know how to keep the solar panels alive.

p.s. And we need to take some sort of poll before hand,....if ABSOLUTELY EVERY female in the tribe gives me the "aint doing HIM" thumbs down vote,....well, I aint goin !
Other than that,....wait,...wait,....weed. OK,.....other than that,...with you !

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LOL I'm sure we could arrange something with the barter system that would work for you... ;)

Are you actually going to do any of that?

Hi- yes. I have spent the last 20 years of my life building real-world connections with people I love and trust. We work together to help young people learn what it takes to get along in the world, get help for poor folks who are lacking basic necessities, and resist the mass-consumerism addiction that turns good people into wage slaves.

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Populace (which is a noun) and not populous (which is an adjective).

you guys should move to valenzuela..chavez has the perfect job for you gus..LOL..

did you get paid a nickel for that comment?

I have some friends that have already forsaken this country and moved elsewhere. I have to admit, it's tempting. The American war machine seems to have no boundaries.

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