'Israeli war crimes-Your tax dollars at work' signs being displayed on Seattle buses
source: http://www.king5.com/news/local/Israeli-War-Crimes-signs-to-go-on-Metro-buses-112108154.html
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A group calling itself the Seattle Mideast Awareness Campaign has paid King County $1,794 so that 12 buses will carry that message around town, starting two days after Christmas. That's December 27: the two-year anniversary of Israeli attacks on Gaza.
Ed Mast, a Seattle man who is a spokesperson for the group, says it’s not meant to be an anti-Israel message, but a message designed to generate discussion and awareness.
At the Pacific Northwest office of the Anti-Defamation League, the ad campaign is seen quite a bit differently.
"We're dismayed," says Community Director Hilary Bernstein, who calls the bus-born advertisement grotesquely one-sided. "Citizens young and old will be seeing this sort of propaganda, this very one-sided distortion. It's unfortunate."
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http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2010/12/hate-crimes-in-la-county-down-over...
Hate crimes in L.A. County down overall, but anti-Jewish vandalism rises
December 21, 2010 | 3:36 pmHate crimes were down in Los Angeles County in 2009 compared with the year before, but such crimes against Jews spiked almost 50%, according to a report released Tuesday.
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ayipis
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ayipis:
Do you have some evidence that Helen Thomas is in LA County attacking Jewish People with her Cane?
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Radical_Centrist
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maasanova
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Radical_Centrist:
http://www.archive.org/details/ScottSpearsWmrn-am-InterviewsHelenThomas&reCache=1
If you have not heard this, listen to a real American hero, Helen Thomas ask the question "who are these people" referring to the Zionist Thought Police the Anti-Defamation League of B'nai B'rith.
She tells them to back the fuck up and stop intimidating her or she will report them to the authorities.
http://www.archive.org/download/ScottSpearsWmrn-am-InterviewsHelenThomas/HelenTh...
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maasanova
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maasanova:
she also said the israelis, not zionists, but all israelis should move back to europe, despite them not being from there.helen says a lot of shit, most of wich has no basis in reality.
like the jewish adl that is supposedly this zionist wing enforcing its agenda on all of us.the same adl who is presently representing a muslim woman who was forced to remove her face covering in a courthouse.that same supposed zionist regime, who are fighting against all defemation, not just jewish.
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freecrack
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freecrack
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Radical_Centrist:
its with her pocket book that has a brick in it lol
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freecrack
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Unfortunately, none of the Israeli war crimes were Wikileaked b/c our hero Julian Assange met with Mossad and Israeli officials, prior to the leaking and casually censored any negative cables exposing their war crimes. Not really his fault, b/c he'd have a bullet in his head if he did.
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rodstradamus:
If Mossad says jump, you say how high. Dangerous folk they are.
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rodstradamus:
theory, fact, whats the difference right?
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littlwarrior:
i agree, but in all fairness mosaad doesnt exactly talk to people.they are one step away from being a shadow organization, not really offering public faces like the cia does.if memory serves, it wasnt too long ago that some were even claiming mosaad doesnt even exist anymore.
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freecrack:
this is true, but if mossad choose to have a chat with me I would walk away glad to walk away and sure that I will do just what they told me to.
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littlwarrior
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Oh somebody is pissed right now, and its Seattle make them take it down and there would be a riot. Hah I love it.
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littlwarrior:
The do in fact have opposing signs - i just saw a sigh about Palestinian war crimes ( your tax dollars at work ) ! Sign , signs everywhere a sign .....
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artemis6:
everyone wants to say something the only problem is that many people say many things not all of them being true. Just look at fox lie central there.
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littlwarrior:
that is the problem with this issue.it has been dominated by propaganda, and all of us only have that to go on.
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freecrack
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freecrack:
everything is dominated by propaganda, it is up to us to sift.
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littlwarrior:
subject to propaganda, but not dominated.
you can watch c-span (god help you) and get the reality outside of the left/right echochamber, but this issue (israel/palestine) is all propaganda.sifting is required, but education isnt mandated.not that it should be, but im just saying.so people run off the rails based on propaganda, substituting it for fact thus clouding the issue to a degree that is impossible to reasonably negotiate.
the bleeding hearts react to dead baby stuff before thinking "why".and zionists react to israel being attacked as a personal affront without asking "why".both end up talking out of thier ass's to no positive end.speaking before thinking.reacting on the emotions that the propaganda is designed to illicet instead of sifting for truth.
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freecrack:
ooo I love c-span, my friend dvr's every hour of c-span for me then I watch on fast forward with the subtitles on. I love it, but im a freak like that. I totally agree though people react before they take a moment to check the facts. When you look at the facts you find out that neither side is right, both are wrong and the whole thing is a giant mess. But neither will admit they are in the wrong on anything so there is an eternal tug of war.
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freecrack:
The problem with propaganda freecrack, as you know, is that it is accepted and even encouraged for the media to portray all Arabs as evil non-humans who want to kill Americans and Jews, however, you get the Anti-Defamation League and other Jewish thought police after you and your job if you dare to point out the obvious about Israeli war crimes, 30 billion in free money and weapons and AIPAC dictating foreign policy to the US Congress.
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maasanova:
The problem with propaganda freecrack, as you know, is that it is accepted and even encouraged for the media to portray all Arabs as evil non-humans who want to kill Americans and Jews,
um not exactly.it depends on the propaganda you are getting.if you watch leftist media, arabs are portrayed as the poor disenfranchised third world peoples the industrial revolution left behind, and are subsiquently abused by super powers.if yu watch right wing propaganda all arab muslims are jihadists waiting for christian america to let thier guard down so they can institute sharia law.no singular propaganda exists, for anyone, no less arabs.similarly the same right wing propaganda that poses islam as all destructive, plays israel as the heros against them, while left media plays israel as the third riech.
and this is the propaganda of the day.it wasnt too long ago that it was all russia all the time.ever rle that arab muslims are playing since 9-11, eastern europeans were victims of previously.same format, just substitute who we are demonizing.
once again you are trying to create realities, whilst taking huge theoretical leaps.the adl is the anti-defemation league.not the jadl, but the adl.they arent a jewish voice, that is your element thrown into the mix that makes for propaganda.does it interest you at all that right now the adl's biggest case is in defending a muslim woman who was made to remove her hijab in a courthouse?doesnt this run counter to ever notion you pose?
you live in a fantasy world where the adl have any power what so ever, aside from taking cases that influence what issues define us as a cuture.they dont make anyone lose thier jobs.mel gibson talks the most offensive smack ever, and he is still making flicks, within that jewish run media ya love to mention.no job loss there huh? helen thomas lost her job cuz i was her boss's call, no one elses.
anyone can mention what ever they like about how much money israel gets, or what ill's they see from the israelis.from representative baird adressing our government to this end, to the huffington post regularly talking about israeli funding.
please join the rest of us in the real world, that doesnt substitute information gaps with emotional theoreticals.
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freecrack
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i think we should stop giving them money.are we trying to buy our way to heaven.where does all the pity come from for the jews.hitler killed them and very few tried to fight back.if you want to go to heaven be in isreal when the nuks go off and you can ride up with the rest of them.that crap over there has gone on long enough let them kill each other off we are not going to stop it.
jews and muslems and christians have been killing each other for ever people
just dont get it religion is a plague among humans. - 1 year ago
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wally60:
it has nothing to do with pity, and anyone who is selling that to you is attempting to delegitimze israels existance.we support israel, cuz if she falls the new fronline of the east vs west culture war will be at our front door.not to mention israeli tech is the global leading standard, especially in regards to security, wich we have a keen focus on no?
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Seattle likely has opposing signs too . It's Seattle . They got everything , almost .
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Please get over yourselves Semites and non-semites alike!
How many more thousands of years does our earth have to suffer for the sins of Abraham's children???
Jewish, Christian, Muslim.
I am SO sick of your endless wars over who has the bigger god/dick/weapon.
You are the entire reason our planet is facing this fifth great extinction!
You think you are somehow above nature.
That nature is somehow imperfect and requires conquering.
Wake up and smell the stars - 1 year ago
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coolplanet:
exactly.
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coolplanet:
Very well said!
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uShine:
propaganda met with propaganda.no substative debate can take place when the information is geared towards bias rather than truth.
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Clearly the controversial signs on the busses are a very thought provoking theme... What a great way to get people's minds spinning!
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ayipis
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so who wants to kill jews???
skin heads, nazis, hamas..hezbollah pretty much every terrorist organization AND THE LIBERALS..
(and if you are one of those liberals dont you fucking hate it when idiots like these people associate themselves as liberals..LOL)
http://undhimmi.com/2010/11/19/jihad-jenny-uk-politician-in-yet-another-anti-sem...
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ayipis:
u do know at least half the jews in america are liberal right?
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btw make sure you guys identifiy yourselves properly...or else people might think this is nothing more than just another skin head fan club
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ayipis
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ayipis:
nice pic, finally something we agree on!
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Nephwrack
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ayipis:
hey! where have i seen that symbol in the tattoo before...oh yeah! Xasthurnortt!
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@ayipis..
Yes we all know the best defense is a good OFFENCE.
And yes the palestinians really ARE poor. Thats part of the problem.
Israel is richer, and has far more sophisticated firepower - 1 year ago
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ayipis
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poppytears:
problem..Hamas had been stealing from them..and not really providing..ever noticed that little factoid???
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poppytears:
kinda remind of bullshit called "disappropriated" response..
so to make it fair you want to arm the palestinians?? the same pawns that were brainswashed by other muslim leaders to blow themselves up to kill civilians???
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ayipis
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poppytears:
http://www.seattlepi.com/national/399214_mideast07.html
U.N. halts Gaza aid, accuses Hamas of theft
Minister calls it misunderstandingBy JOSEF FEDERMAN
THE ASSOCIATED PRESSJERUSALEM -- The U.N. agency for Palestinian refugees suspended aid to the Gaza Strip on Friday, accusing the territory's Hamas rulers of stealing a delivery of humanitarian supplies for the second time this week.
The announcement by the U.N. Relief and Works Agency deepened tensions between the international body that assists the majority of Gaza's 1.4 million people and the Islamic group that controls the coastal strip.
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ayipis
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ayipis:
no, it's called disproportionate.
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poppytears:
food for thought (love the avatar by the way,perfect)
israel is richer.so is saudi arabia,and turkey,and jordan,and egypt.but when arafat died (former palestinian leader) his wife was left with literaly a billion dollars cash.does israels success really have anything to do with the palestinians misery, or is it the wealth amassed by the plo that cause thier suffering?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Qt9Ts-tREA&feature=related
listen to this video..and you tell me..
are you listening to a nazi or to a anti-semite terrorist loving liberal???
its a rhetoric question..ONE AND THE SAME
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ayipis:
its so similar that it gives me an eerie feeling that these idiots are falling for the same fucking propaganda casted by the Fuhrer LOL
and they are supposed to be so smart they have perfect grammar and spelling but shit for brains when it comes to COMPREHENSION..
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ayipis:
you are listening to a jewish nazi
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ayipis:
This is all you need:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_lawPoint set and match.
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ayipis:
lmfao at you calling ANYONE out on comprehension. My pet rock has degrees on you.
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ayipis:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tjw8U0AcH4Q
I love when people dust off Hitler and try and work him in to the argument.
An Israeli woman Keren Levy was a big fan of Adolph Hitler.
During Operation Cast Lead, she watched from a hillside as innocent civilians were bombed and told reporters that the IDF should take them all out; wipe them off the map, as it were. She even claimed "I'm a little bit fascist."
Now who were the Nazis again?
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maasanova:
niether as it is a disgrace to call anyone such a thing.but if you had to chose between the palestinians and israelis, as to wich people in general were more nazi-esk, the palestinians would win that honor.
from the propaganda that exists in lue of free speech, and the basis in national policy that palestinian success must come at the hands of anothers destruction, it mirrors nazism pretty closely.only thing missing really is the apperatus by wich to achieve this goal.israel on the other hand has the ability to create such an apperatus, yet doesnt.israel can wipe every palestinian of the face of the earth, and despite being prompted repeatedly for over half a century have yet to do so.israel has free speech.so much so that you get to use haaretz (israeli publication) to find anti-israel commentary.not very nazi like is it?israel is split on the palestinian issue, and are getting more and more liberal and less zionist as every generation comes, compared to the steady propagandizing of the gazans that the jews must be killed.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-11402101
is it me or does this "Homosexual Murdering" Anti-Semite sound like one your garden variety liberal..
911 was an inside job..evil jews..evil americans,,LOL
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ayipis
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ayipis:
WTF has this got to do with this story?
You're saying you're like Armadinejad? Yeah, I suppose you are.You're just as full of idiotic rhetoric.
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ozoneocean:
what story?? i thought it was a ANTI-SEMITE propaganda bullshit.. LOL
I am sure you have a comprehension problem..YOU CAN SPELL WELL but your an idiot when it comes to comprehension..
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ayipis
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ayipis:
and you're an idiot when it comes to everything else, so...go crawl back under the bridge, troll.
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ayipis:
*you're
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ozoneocean:
and im the one shooting myself in the foot.lol
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what you guys are seeing from Israel is a defensive reaction against a bunch of Muslims who are bent in pushing the jews to the red sea...
the Palestinians are being used by these assholes as pawns..AND OF COURSE that is too small of an issue to discuss..
if you guys really want to help these "poor innocent palestinians"..get rid of the HAMAS
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ayipis:
I wish they'd push YOU into the Red Sea.
The Israelis would probably help. - 1 year ago
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ozoneocean:
LOL...of course..another catchy retort..cant get one pass you..
would you smile and like me better if i join in your seig heil chants instead??
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ayipis:
i don't think you get it. none of us want the israelis dead. we just think they should stop committing war crimes. but then that's the standard pro-fascist line isnt it? if you're not with us you're against us? right? how's that job at the truck stop? i'll bet you've got lotsa clients this time of year.
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It really helps to get both sides of that story out.
For too long we hear only about what horrible Palestinian terrorists do (all true BTW), and not about what the other side do. There are no good guys here, just an unjust situation. - 1 year ago
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ozoneocean:
in all seriousness, are thier good guys in afghanastan and iraq?
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ayipis
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you guys think that your rantings are new????????????????
shit you guys got beat...guess by who..
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ayipis:
What you are ATTEMPTING to do is one of the oldest tricks in the Zionist book!
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Radical_Centrist:
dont mix your politics with your religion
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We really do not need this type of incitement.
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"We're dismayed," says Community Director Hilary Bernstein, who calls the bus-born advertisement grotesquely one-sided. "Citizens young and old will be seeing this sort of propaganda, this very one-sided distortion. It's unfortunate."
As opposed to the one sided propaganda the main stream media hand feeds the sheep and puppets in the US?
People need to hear the other side....the side that is going to be advertised on the bus.
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jubal:
well let one famous man WHO SHARE THE SAME PASSION AS YOU..tells us about YOUR SIDE OF THE STORY..
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ayipis:
Propaganda is propaganda. Let's have less of state controlled information shall we? ;)
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the younger generation will have to assimilate massive amounts of information yet still needs to know how to differentiate the BS from reality so that they can make sound decisions for the future.
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I think it's fine to make people think. Young people are subjected constantly to destructive propaganda (Glenn Beck). It's up to the individual to make the right decision of what is right or wrong.
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poppytears
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ayipis
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poppytears:
some people get their thinking from a cartoon character from comedy central..
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ayipis
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ayipis
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poppytears:
destructive propaganda???
anti-semites been doing it for eons...
and I would not blame them for being sick and tired of anti-semite assholes like..hummmm
*looks around the room*
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ayipis
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ayipis:
I've never seen a bigger antisemite than you.
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ayipis
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who spreads this propaganda?? LOL
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ayipis
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maasanova
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ayipis:
ADL approved!
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ayipis:
Clearly, you do.
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ayipis:
I have heard MANY Americans say FAR worse things about W.
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Radical_Centrist:
and of course those "many" americans were stupid enough to vote a certain party to impeach "W"..but got shafted up the *** and yet they think they are smart.
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ayipis
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ayipis:
Lmao those translations aren't even real.
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freecrack
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maasanova:
not antisemtism right?
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freecrack
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ayipis
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how come we dont hear this from your regular liberal media?? because it would go against its anti-jew ideology
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ayipis
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maasanova
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ayipis:
ADL approved!
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ayipis:
Any educated observer of the world's current events knows that many Israeli citizens are brainwashed too... In fact I would consider that any country with hyper-nationalist citizens have been brainwashed.
And let's not forget that Israeli young adults (from age 18) are *required* to join the military and stay there for at least 2 years...
So... yeah. - 1 year ago
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poppytears:
That is the truth! It appears to be a very fragmented society as well with many different factions fighting amongst each other for a variety of reasons.
There are many sane people in Israel who know their country is fucked!
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maasanova
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maasanova:
Yep, you're right :)
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ayipis:
Don't be an asshole ayipis, being against the israeli imperialism is far for from anti-semetic. disapproving of the fighting, death, and lies of this whole conflict and the shadiness of the israeli government has nothing to do with disapproving of jewish people as a whole. I hate the conflict and yet I love my jewish girlfriend. So fuck off, go absorb more conservative propaganda for limbaugh, beck, or the orange douche boehnor, and stop trolling.
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ayipis:
It is nice to know the Israeli children are taught to do nothing but LOVE.
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maasanova:
and SUPPLIED no doubt.
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ayipis
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poppytears:
and i see you are brainwashed as well..
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ayipis
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maasanova:
seig heil LOL
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ayipis:
Because people like you are fucking imbeciles.
Israel is more left wing than the US largely and actually DOES look at itself critically to some extent, even WITH all the crazy rightwingers and mostly racist settlers. - 1 year ago
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ayipis:
did you even read my comment?
First of all I was not talking about hamas, I was trying to get the point of across that to disapprove of what the israeli govt does is not anti-semitism. i love jews, I have jewish blood, and still I disapprove of the the israeli govt. Also hamas is the extreme consequence of the conflict that was started by the israelis. I also disapprove of hamas they are equally as terrible. You with your goddamn red herrings, its beginning to annoy me. - 1 year ago
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ayipis:
nazi.
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poppytears:
here is the subtle, yet important difference.
the israeli brainwashing is the same brainwashing that the entire world is subject to, religion.hamas brain washing is cutural, not just religious.
israelis who are brainwashed, have the freedom to rectify the damage thier families have done to them, as israel is a free secular society.just like how our amish can leave thier families and join the rest of us.
hamas on the other hand controls the entire media of gaza, and free speech is not allowed.to disapprove of the states political position earns you death.
israelis have a chance, just like all of us, to reject hate.hamas does not afford the palestinians this option.
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freecrack
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Radical_Centrist:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wiBwQ9fiho
it is amazing how you can dismiss some propaganda, and rely on another as legit.here we go with the back and forth propaganda.the very reason this issue never gets resolved.this is what you prefer?
- 1 year ago
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freecrack
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Radical_Centrist:
wanna check the age requirments for gun ownership in israel vs in gaza or the bank?
- 1 year ago
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freecrack
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ozoneocean:
i think racism isnt the right classification for the settlers.t is an insult to racists.they are just fucking straight crazy
- 1 year ago
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freecrack
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ayipis
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WyPF-XeBG4A&feature=related
terrorist does thier work..anti-semites cover its up.. its a relationship
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ayipis
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ayipis:
ADL approved!
- 1 year ago
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maasanova
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Radical_Centrist
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ayipis:
Can you tell me why it is when the Palestinians kill INNOCENT people it is called terrorism, but when IDF kills INNOCENT people it is called self defense?
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Radical_Centrist
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Radical_Centrist:
because in this conflict israel is in a defensive position, and the palestinians are in the aggressors position.
the israelis use a a defensive military force, while the palestinians attack citizens.both end up murdering, but the nature of the killings differs.
i shoot you in the head, its murder, but if you were killed bythe state it is justice.still killing, but recognizes the good vs bad element.
im not advocating, just answering.
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freecrack
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ayipis
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terrorist using the media HAHHAHAHAHA
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ayipis
