Not a single documented case of anyone harmed by Wikileaks leaks

you can only be a slave when you allow yourself to be one, high paid sometimes but slaves none the less. Corporatism folded in a hate message of Obama is sick sicker and sickest. Barak Obama is more attuned to the middle class and lower income Americans than ANY President since LBJ and prior to him FDR. NO conservative cares about anyone but the corpoate elite. So take your picture of hate of Obama and shove it up your ass

Tommic, I see you are very passionate about your beliefs... Please relax... I am also passionate ... So, I can also relate to what you are feeling.

[ First,] I am not a Republican or, a Tea-bagger. [ Second ] I voted for Obama too... I am a democrat and, a very Proud Liberal. I also had very very high hopes as you and as everyone else who did believed strongly in Obama...

After the first year.... I still was making excuses for him and blaming racists, Neocons and Republicans for nothing getting done. But then, when Obama had a clear opportunity the repeal "The Patriot Act".... What Obama did was do the exact opposite, he made "The Patriot Act" even stronger and even put more teeth in it!!! I was Shocked!!! The next very important milestone was ... "Habeas Corpus" and Obama, also DID NOTHING!!!! After that it was one thing after another... Obama promised one little thing like "The food Labeling Act.".. a simple act to indicate GMO's.in all our food. Exactly the same as in Europe... So we all had a choice.... But again... What did we get from President Obama= Nothing!~ ZERO!!! ~ ZIP!!! But even worse... Obama then picks his choice to head the "Department of Food Safety"... And Obama picks... the Attorney for Monsanto. That is enough!!! That is total crap!!!! 180 degree flip!

Tommic, there is only so much that you can blame on Republicans & Tea Baggers.

Tommic, there comes a point where you and everyone has to realize the truth... that we all got sold a bill of goods... Only after you have all the facts...and after you take a really good look... And see all the damaging legislation and policies that were enacted by the criminals Bush and Chaney with their Patriot Act and their Project for a New American Century...their FEMA camps to Home Land Security all directed at Spying on US Citizens..... Tommic... NOTHING HAS CHANGED! It wasn't reversed... it wasn't stopped... or....wasn't even slowed down. All the facts are there for everyone to see.... All of Bush and Chaney's policies were all excelerated and strengthened !!!!

Look I was disappointed too! I am sorry, but, I don't think you have all the facts in front of you Tommic...

I worked both for Bill Clinton and also All Gore for many years as their TV producer... I feel that Obama waisted an historic opportunity to do the right thing... With what I have said above... I believe we are all running out of time here. Today.... without a doubt... our country is much further down the rabbit hole that it ever was before and headed quickly towards total Fascism...

What Wikileaks is showed all of us, is much like Todo in "The Wizard of Oz" pulling back the curtain exposing the fraud and corruption....... If that wasn't enough... What is even worse... is how our Government is responding... By more Fascist Acts and more ugly threats and openly circumventing our laws and legal due process... This is not now a law biding society responds! This is very troubling behavior.

Tommic, From looking at what you write... you are an intelligent and passionate guy.

I believe you are maybe you should think about changing your news sources... ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, ect... They all s topped reporting the news a while ago. I know that for a fact, because they are all my clients. They only report what they want you to hear.

I would like to suggest:

"GritTV" "DemocracyNow" & " THE REAL NEWS NETWORK "

In Closing:
Thank you for taking the time to write me, I am sorry if you feel that I offended you personally, that wasn't ever my intention. I wish that things were not to the point politically where they are today... But, unfortunately they are.

Please understand that I also, feel very strongly in my beliefs in Democracy, personally accountability and, in government transparency. I feel very strongly that all of us... need to be courageous enough to take the steps needed get our democracy back from the entities the stole her and to rescue her it from the direction she is is now heading...

I am sorry if in the process, that I offend you or, anyone else along the way...

Be courageous... Act courageous...

Gerard

Wow great comment. +^'d

That is stupid.

sheep

Wait, when was he was on Fox News?
Pretty sure Al-Jazeera wasn't Terrorist TV before September 11th.

GO AWAY!

No...actual it's not a government op. It's a small-business/privately owned organization.

If he gets arrested, then the government will keep his business from growing, thus killing potential jobs. But hey...if your for the government taking over private business, that's your deal.
Remind me not to vote for you, Commie.

prove it

Prove what?
That rape is harmful?
That he is being charged with rape?

the "rape" alligation has to be one of the most confusing alligations i've ever heard of. First she claimed it was consensual, then she claimed the condom broke. Then they retracted the Sex by suprise claim and told him he was free to travel. Then as soon as he did leave the country he had a warrent issued but no charges were brought against him. to repeat, he is not charged with anything but a warrent was still issued for him.

He had consenting sex with two women, who later recanted.
He's being charged with "sex by surprise", which later was retracted.
There is another form of what their charging him for, which falls under the "rape" category, which is basically that he had consentual sex with a woman, and his condom broke.

Luckily, in America, that's not rape. It's called, "Oopps".
So by our definition, it's not rape.
I'm sorry if you think that consentual sex is rape.

Also, the woman only pressed charges months after the actual event.
Most likely, brought on by the popularity of WikiLeaks.

Now, ask yourself, would a real rape victim wait until someone was getting news coverage to claim rape? -Or would she report it to the police immediately?

"I'm sorry if you think that consentual sex is rape."

Well, I'm sorry you felt the need to take the conversation to juvenile levels.

One of the women was unconscious. She did NOT consent to sex while unconscious.

I'm sorry if you think that having sex with an unconscious woman is NOT rape.

I'm sorry if that shoots your plans of buying a bunch of Rohypnol down the crapper.

You say:
"Now, ask yourself, would a real rape victim wait until someone was getting news coverage to claim rape? -Or would she report it to the police immediately?"

So, I'll ask myself- self, what do rape victims usually do?
Do YOU know what real rape victims USUALY do?
I do.
They do nothing.
They do NOT report it to the police immediately.
Nothing.
Rape is an underreported crime. Rape victims often do not come forward unless someone encourages them to do so, such as additional victims. And yes, that is often years later.

And BTW- if you don't want to have this discussion in a mature fashion, don't bother replying.

though at first she claimed she was awake... o wait then she was drugged.. wait retract that drugged claim, she was asleep and slept through the entire rape.

Can you please post your source for this information ?

I'm not sure that's a fair statement, I mean let's not convict him before he even has a trial. It's not unfathomable that these women have other motives.

My statement was fair- I said the word "perhaps". I don't know the details of what went on any more than anyone else here.

What I find disturbing is the hero worship of Assanage, to the point where people are wearing blinders.

Oh, he said it was just that a condom broke, so then that must be it. It's not like he would lie about something like that!

This reminds me of Michael Jackson fans who refused to accept that he was a child molester, or OJ Simpson fans who refused to accept that he killed two people.

Yes, in this instance we don't know if he is guilty or not- but people are giving him a HUGE benefit of the doubt that they would never give him if he was a Joe Shmo down the street; or someone unlikable, like a Republican pundit.

Imagine if these same allegations, word for word, were being made against Glenn Beck. Everyone here, including me, would want his ass roasted on an open fire.

But because it's Assanage, it's just that a condom broke.

BTW if you go back and reread your posts you will quickly see the progression from what Assange reported to what the women reported to asserting unequivocally "Except, perhaps, for the women he raped."

I'm truly sorry for any women who has had to go through rape, and I've known, counseled, and supported some afterwords, but that doesn't excuse overzealous prosecution ignoring any and all evidence on both sides or the basic assumption that all rape accusations are valid. We KNOW people are falsely accused and convicted of rape and the available data seems to suggest it happens much more often than we would like. The data also suggests, no matter how base or pedestrian the reasons may be, that some of the most common reason for false accusation are

providing an alibi
a means of gaining revenge
a platform for seeking attention/sympathy

I don't know who is lying or who is guilty but hope that if Assange is guilty he gets much more than 2 years and that if the accusers are lying they get much more than 2 years. Peace.

"I'm sorry if that shoots your plans of buying a bunch of Rohypnol down the crapper."

Now THAT is juvenile. Don't imply that just because someone is skeptical of these women and their stories that they are comparable to a date-raper, because THAT is definitely NOT a fair statement. I understand that you feel people are giving him the benefit of the doubt because of his political and social position, and perhaps they are. But if you want to keep it civil, you should try to set the example.

A rapist generally repeats their behavior over and over, and I'm sorry if I find it odd that NO ONE has ever accused this man of rape before these cables were released and the US started threatening him. Yes, rape victims don't always report what has happened to them, but the circumstances are hazy at best, and the timing is highly suspect. Perhaps he did rape these women, and perhaps he didn't. If Glenn Beck was accused of rape at the exact time he did something to really piss off the government, with NO priors, I would find that odd as well. I guess time will tell...

Innocent until proven guilty ? Or is suspicion enough to convict a man in the court of public brainwashing ?

If this were any generic man on the street, no one in this forum would be defending him.
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If this were any generic man on the street, no one on this planet would be accusing him of anything.

It is views like is a major reason why so many rapes never get reported.

You are right on the money. This jerk should have been locked up a long time ago.

Keep an open mind. I'm fairly convinced that wikileaks is a disinformation campaign. It hasn't hurt our government at all... and the Israeli government admitted it's using information from wikileaks to fuel it's war... while at the same time... the "blowback" from this whole thing will probably mean that the US Gov is going to censor the internet (I guess they already are, actually). That's my guess, at least.

They (the goverment) are going to do what they want. We the People need to do whats right and protest and vote accordingly. Besides they will censor the internet no matter what happens. They fear the free press and anything that has to do with it. They want to control what we see what we hear and what we do. those with douts about that are just lieing to them selves.

Indeed.

But... you still think voting works (on a federal level)? Because I sure as hell don't. Money can nullify a law. Voting is bullshit. It's there so that we THINK we have a choice. Just like you said... they'll do what they want. Voting is meaningless.

Well untill We have another Civil war it's all We have. Well that and protesting. I don't know when or where to protest. I to think voteing is a crock but I will do it every chance I get.

We give voting a meaning by having a meaning ourselves. Cry out for justice; least you never be heard at all.

Great comment thank you...I miss them, too.

That is why Superman , in the comics , was a reporter , because reporters , WERE heroes . Now , we got just this one guy feeding us scraps of hope ... sad really . The world is talking about him , because he is the only one , and there is a great need for so many more . Remember when watergate broke ? Just two reporters among many had that story . They were all chomping at the bit for some big game like that . We didn't know how good we had it . I know there are vastly more good and courageous people than evil . Here's to hoping , that Julian Assange is just the first among a new generation of Heroes !

You mean Faux Naws is not real journalism?? Who would have thunk it?

One of my favorites was the ritual of Dagestan weddings and that was strangely enough considered a secret.

he knew the risks.

If we waited around for the perfect person to do things , nothing would get done ! Fact is He stepped forward and did what needed doing . He is willing to take the hit . He gets big credit for that .

more like fighting the truth!!! cowards!

How has wikilink helped us?

People who have been condemned for conspiracy thinking are now being vindicated as having told the truth about what they knew. We see that the corruption is at the highest levels of government and we also see the corporations are waging war against sovereign states to acquire access to their natural resources. We see that fascism is once again on the rise world wide as corporations are taking over governments and willfully subverting constitutions and international laws. We see that the United Nations in many ways serves the interest of profits over people.

We need to have an organization where whistleblowers can expose corruption.