For Egypt, new Sudan state threat to Nile River control
source: http://www.terradaily.com/reports/For_Egypt_new_Sudan_state_threat_to_Nile_999.html
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The southern Sudan leader, Salva Kiir, recently visited President Yoweri Museveni of Uganda, one of the upstream states opposed to Egypt's control of the Nile waters, to discuss building hydroelectric power stations to enhance development of the infant state.
That is guaranteed to incense Cairo, which vehemently opposes any upstream projects that would diminish the flow of the Nile, which runs into the Mediterranean at Alexandria.
Sudan lies astride the middle reaches of the Nile, the source of 90 percent of Egypt's water. The White Nile, which joins the Blue Nile in Khartoum, Sudan's capital, runs through southern Sudan. The Blue, which rises in the Ethiopian highlands, supplies more than two-thirds of the Nile's water flow.
The upstream states -- Uganda, Tanzania, Kenya, the Democratic Republic of Congo, Burundi, Rwanda and Ethiopia -- demand that Egypt and Sudan relinquish long-held rights to 74 percent of the Nile's waters.
These are enshrined in a 1929 agreement from the British colonial era. Egypt and Sudan refuse to give an inch. In May, most of the upstream states grouped together in a new alliance and gave the downstream states a year to agree to a more equitable share of the Nile waters.
They need this because of burgeoning populations, a growing demand for electricity and irrigation for food production and an imperative to stimulate development.
Under the 1929 agreement, Egypt had veto power over all upstream projects that involve the Nile's flow, particularly dam construction.
AllAfrica.com reported that Museveni told Kiir Uganda wants more dams to boost its generating power from 300 megawatts to 3,800 MW over the next five years.
"We also have plans to generate 17,000 MW by 2025," the Ugandan leader disclosed.
According to U.S. diplomatic cables unveiled by WikiLeaks, Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak sought to convince Washington to postpone the scheduled Jan. 8 independence referendum in southern Sudan because of the potential loss of Nile water.
Ethiopia, the source of the Blue Nile, has strong links with the Sudan People's Liberation Movement, which has ruled southern Sudan since a 2005 peace agreement that ended decades of civil war between the region, mainly Christian and animist, and the Arab Muslim north.
So do Kenya and Uganda, which supported the southerners' struggle against the Khartoum regime of President Omar al-Bashir.
Indeed, Ethiopia's leader, Prime Minister Meles Zenawi, one of the most militant of Egypt's critics, claimed in November that Cairo sought to destabilize his country by supporting rebel groups opposed to his regime.
That accusation, devoid of any diplomatic discourse, apparently caught the Egyptians unawares and marked a sharp escalation in the diplomatic war of words over the Nile.
airo denied that. But Egypt and other Arab states provided support for Eritrean separatists who fought for independence from Ethiopia in 1961-91.
Zenawi went on to warn Egypt it would be defeated if it invaded Ethiopia, presumably through Sudan or Eritrea, which border Ethiopia.
However, undertaking such a complex operation is difficult to imagine, even though Egypt considers the Nile a vital national security issue.
"Nobody who has tried that has lived to tell the story," Zenawi cautioned.
Egypt did try to invade Ethiopia in the 19th century after it had conquered Sudan. But that campaign ended in failure in 1875.
Why Zenawi would want to raise the temperature on the Nile issue right now is not entirely clear.
But he has domestic problems and the Nile provides a diversion. He has infuriated Egypt by building five huge dams on the Nile over the last decade and has started construction of a new $1.4 billion hydroelectric facility.
Osman Mirghani, senior editor-at-large of the Saudi-owned Asharq al-Awsat newspaper, was concerned enough to observe that the Nile question "is something that in the near future may come to overshadow all other regional issues."
"Anybody listening to the statements, observing the frantic maneuvers, or watching the growing tension, might already feel that the Nile Water War has begun in earnest."
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ayipis
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the best thing we can do to save these people is keep those ECO NUT al gore zombies crowd away.
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ayipis
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ayipis:
best thing would be to tie you up tight next to rising waters, then you can say " what climate change as you drown" Your moronic statements are a testament to you immaturity and ignorance. BOTH
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tommic
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ayipis
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now everybody, hold hands and lets listen to BONO and his bleeding liberal hearts club...LOL
everybody is milking these people..
AND IT SEEMS THEY FOUND A NEW REASON TO MILK THEM AGAIN ..
LOL..
when you see one coming RUN AWAY!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NmmLvfzMuE&playnext=1&list=PLCAE18FA9085...
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ayipis
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JanforGore
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Climate change and drought will do either one of two things in this area: move people to doing the right thing for all in conserving and finding more efficient ways to provide energy and food: or it will lead to the baser instincts that man usually stoops to in order to take what they believe should be their share of the water. This is ndeed a moral test and the tensions surrounding this especially in line with Southern Sudan's impending independence referendum is something we will have to watch closely.
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The_Pharaoh
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tverdell:
Desalination plants are possible, but most of Africa's countries are poor ( or governed by wealthy cheap tyrants) so they don't even think about it..
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tverdell:
It is always a possibility near a water source, however it is also a human fail and a bandaid to cover the real moral dilemma this presents. There are resources that can be utilized equitably still to provide adequate water sources for both upstream and downstream countries. Further, the proliferation of hydropower dams when other energy sources are available only shows that governments are misusing the water sources. Solar power in these areas could alleviate much in the way of water stress as could drip irrigation for agriculture. Desalination also tends to be energy intensive and expensive. The poor of these countries would not be able to afford water through desalination, and also the Nile supports aquatic ecosystems that are already threatened due to pollution. And where then do you deposit the brackish remains? There is great demand for desalinated water to meet the needs of industry and people along the Red Sea. I think Saudi Arabia already has a few plants there, but the brine and other treatment chemicals released are then a threat to corals and fish stocks. Intensifying this by building more would then put their livelihood in danger. I have always thought that desalination was a human fail procedure especially when other more feasible options are available. Of course, depending on humans to actually conserve water and work together is something that seems to be harder than just going to the easiest option.
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JanforGore
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oppressed1
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Let em kill each other the world is over populated anyways.
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The_Pharaoh
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oppressed1:
The world would be much better without the likes of you too, should we kill you?!
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The_Pharaoh:
There have been people who have tried. STill here though.
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JanforGore
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http://english.aljazeera.net/news/africa/2010/10/2010101091233114892.html
Is civil war inevitable? War within for oil, war with Egypt over water? Egypt has claimed it is not preparing for war over it's Nile allocation... we shall see after the vote on the referendum.
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JanforGore
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JanforGore
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http://www.dailystar.com.lb/article.asp?edition_id=10&categ_id=2&article...
The referendum for Independence for the South now presents a quandary for oil companies as well. The South which would gain control over it should the referendum for independence pass has stated it will keep them under more stringent guidelines in order to cut down on pollution because the majority of poor in the South are subsistence farmers whose livelihoods are threatened by pollution from oil. So, what entities do you think are working on actually seeing this referendum fail?
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JanforGore
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the shot heard 'round the world....the first of EARTH'S WATER WARS!
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JanforGore
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olddogdaddy:
I think they have already begun, but it is being kept quiet.
http://www.upi.com/Science_News/Resource-Wars/2010/12/08/Ethiopia-challenges-Egy...
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JanforGore
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ayipis
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http://www.atu2.com/news/bono-condemns-actions-of-sudans-government.html
Bono Condemns Actions of Sudan's Government
RTE, September 22, 2006
United Nations human rights monitors have accused Sudan's military of dropping bombs on villages in north Darfur, killing and injuring civilians and driving many from their homes.The U.N. human rights spokesman, Jose-Luis Diaz, said government aircraft had carried out indiscriminate aerial bombardment as part of a campaign against movements that have not signed the peace agreement.
Separately, Bono has condemned Sudan over the crisis in Darfur, describing the behaviour of the Khartoum government as an affront to decency.
Speaking to RT� News in London last night, Bono said the Sudanese government's refusal to allow UN troops into Darfur had "broken every shred of dignity possible in a government."
With the Islamic holy month of Ramadan approaching in the next few days, the U.N. is urging government forces, rebels and militias in western Sudan to allow relief workers to operate freely in the region.
But with two and a half million people displaced by the fighting, the Sudanese government is still refusing to allow 20,000 U.N. troops to deploy in Darfur when the African Union mandate there runs out at the end of this year.
The U2 star pointed up the failure of the African Peer Review Mechanism, which is a voluntary agreement between members of the AU to maintain and police standards of good governance across the continent.
Bono said it had failed with Zimbabwe's President Robert Mugabe and that it was now failing in Sudan.
Bono was speaking at a London Fashion Week event hosted by Italian designer Giorgio Armani.
The fashion show was aimed at promoting Bono's Red label, which encourages big business and its customers to contribute to the Global Fund to Fight AIDS, TB and Malaria.
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"......????Bono was speaking at a London Fashion Week event hosted by Italian designer Giorgio Armani.
The fashion show was aimed at promoting Bono's Red label, which encourages big business and its customers to contribute to the Global Fund to Fight AIDS, TB and Malaria.??........."
to all africans, when you see those liberals coming..RUN AWAY..
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ayipis
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ayipis:
september 2006 compared to December 2010...where does these people stand now??
better or worse??
run away....RUN AWAY
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ayipis
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artemis6
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it is about water .
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JanforGore
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artemis6:
yes, geopolitics and water.
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JanforGore
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ayipis
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so what
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ayipis
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JanforGore
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"According to U.S. diplomatic cables unveiled by WikiLeaks, Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak sought to convince Washington to postpone the scheduled Jan. 8 independence referendum in southern Sudan because of the potential loss of Nile water."
And that isn't all. China has been courting both North and South for the oil. Meanwhile, the people continue to suffer.
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JanforGore
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http://current.com/news/91891563_sudan-land-of-water-and-thirst-war-and-peace.ht...
Most of the deep underground water sources in Sudan are in the South. With 70% of their livelihood coming from agriculture at a time of water stress, this referendum taking place next month is definitely about water.
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JanforGore
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JanforGore
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And drought/water issues are not the only thing killing the Fertile Crescent.
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http://current.com/news/92579463_in-the-face-of-nile-lessness-egyptians-protest-...
This could get hairy in many areas. The Fertile Crescent is not so fertile anymore due to drought. So again, attempts by other countries in this compact to continue using Nile water to build dams for hydropower does not make for a peaceful coexistence as is also happening along the Tigris/Euphrates.
The water war in this area as well has already begun. Israel has been fighting it for years against the people of Gaza, and we are now seeing other countries such as Iraq, Syria, Sudan, and Egypt as well as Turkey feeling the effects of a perpetual drought made worse by war, water waste, and climate change. It is to me unfortunate that we have to rely on the moral compass of humanity to solve this crisis. And if I had more faith in the moral compass of humanity I wouldn't need to make that statement, but I honestly don't at this point.
I always believed that wars over water would not really take place in the military sense. However, from what is taking place in this region as a burgeoning population continually puts a strain on the scarcer water resources ( with pollution also increasing) with the demand for energy increasing and with governments only looking at the sources that actually increase environmental destruction, it appears more probable that we may/will see a military conflict regarding water in this region within the next decade.
The fact that the Fertile Crescent is dying is also very sad in the context of history and culture. What is even sadder is to know that so many people don't know or care about the contributions of it as the cradle of civilization.
This is becoming too commom a tale in Asia, Africa, Australia, and many areasa of the world where water sources are becoming scarcer due to climate change and waste.
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JanforGore
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dablaq
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JanforGore:
Jan, but what about the people in the Nile upstream region? Should we save Egypt under the cost of crisis in all those countries which are indeed the source of Nile itself? Egypt does not produce the water, they are just recipient of Bad Colonialism treaty. The countries which are the source of Nile should be given privileges to use the water. If they don't benefit from it there will be no reason for them to conserve the land which in turn will fade away the Nile anyway.
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dablaq:
Oh, I agree with you. I think there most definitely should be a more equitable distribution of the Nile and think the 1929 agreement as put forth by Britain is antiquated.This is why I emphasize so much the drought in this area as a whole and the overabundance of dams being constructed there that will not serve as a means of helping this situation.
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JanforGore
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JanforGore
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And the obsession with building dams for hydropower in areas where drought will worsen due to climate change will be a precept to water conflict. This is why solar energy in these areas is so crucial not only to preserve the flow of water, but also peace.
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JanforGore
