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Pounding rain has now resulted in a flood catastrophe in Northeast Australia larger than the size of Germany and France combined.-
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This is now being stated as the worst flooding in fifty years. Crops are now ruined and it has resulted in billions in losses with more storms coming. This is the moniker of climate change.
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janforgore will tell us what she hears on tv...
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California has been experiencing this same phenomenon - decades of severe drought followed by torrential rain.
THIS is exactly the scenerio climetologists have been predicting for the past several decades due to global warming.
Hawaii has long lost its trade winds, suffering horrible VOG, and south Pacific islands are vanishing before our very eyes.
Everywhere you look extreme whether is happening.
WHAT will it take to make people realize that THIS is an emergency???
& that we have the power to slow it down and possibly stop! - 2 years ago
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coolplanet:
decades ago..your "climatetologists" predicted global cooling NOT global warming..
this climate change had been following a pattern since the start of earth's creation..EARTH WAS NEVER IDLE...seeesh
and scam artists had been making MONEY out of this shit..controlling industries and 3rd world countries..
and what power are you talking about??? ( i want to hear this..i mean you guys been saving the planet since the 1970's)
question..do you guys ever finished anything that you tried to save?
what happened to the holes in our ozone layer???
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I have a dear friend living in the Brisbane area in Queensland. No news from her for days, she hasn't posted anything on her facebook page since Christmas. I do hope she and her children and grand-child are okay...
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Vierotchka:
I likewise have friends in northern California that I have not been able to reach for a week.
I was there for the "100-year flood" back in 1986. Then we had to rescue a dozen sheep from the top of a tree. That is when I first became aware of global warming.
& it's only become worse ever since. - 2 years ago
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http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/11/12/2740805.htm
Adelaide had its first recorded heatwave in November in 2009. We will have to be vigilant to see how the South fares this summer , especially in light of the wildfires that occurred.
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"Adelaide's extreme hot weather is now officially in the record books as the city's first heatwave for November.
There have been five days in a row above 35 degrees Celsius.
Simon Timcke from the weather bureau says history was made before lunchtime.
"Shortly before 11 this morning we clicked over 35 degrees which makes it the first official heatwave in November in Adelaide," he said.
The previous hottest run was four consecutive days above 35 degrees in 1894."
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http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/IOTD/view.php?id=41438Excerpt:
"A spring heat wave scorched southeastern Australia in mid-November 2009, pushing the fire danger to the “catastrophic” category in parts of South Australia and New South Wales and to “extreme” in other surrounding areas. Many cities, including Melbourne and Adelaide experienced record-breaking temperatures that continued for many days.
This pair of images illustrates the impact of the heatwave on the land surface temperatures—which are different from the air temperatures reported in the daily weather report—across the continent. Based on observations from the Moderate Resolution Imaging Spectroradiometer (MODIS) on NASA’s Terra satellite, the maps show where temperatures from November 9–16 (left) and November 17–24 (right) were warmer or cooler than the average for those same eight-day periods between 2000–2008.
Around Adelaide in South Australia and Melbourne in Victoria, the land surface temperatures were up to 12 degrees Celsius (22 degrees Fahrenheit) above average in mid-November.
For Adelaide, the event was the first springtime heatwave since records began in 1887, according to the Australian Bureau of Meteorology."
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To put into perspective that this appears to be climate change as a result of global warming, which is not linear. A springtime heatwave of this magnitude is unusal for this area of Austraila. Heatwaves are expected in their summer months, but November is not their summer but their spring. - 2 years ago
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IceKat:
I find it hilarious that even when the man-made global warming lemmings are presented with clear facts in multiple comments that debunk their false religion they'll vote it all down for no other reason than they can't stand to be confronted with the truth.
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IceKat:
You've obviously been holding your thermometer upside down... "Global temperatures are lower now than they have been for a long time", what a load of crock!
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IceKat:
Says who? Meaningless and microscopic dip in the general upward trend, at most.
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CrouchingWeasel:
Oh look, another "new" identity on Current. How convenient.
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JanforGore:
Jesus Christ, paranoid much? Of course when it appears that another free thinking person signs up to post here & disagree with your rhetoric it just has to be a forum regular out to stir up trouble against The Cause. Time to lay off the weed & get yourself some help.
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CrouchingWeasel:
What a crock. You are "new" yet you start out with the same insults about "weed" and "getting help" as every other usual troller here. Your diversionary insulting BS has been duly noted, and you are now relegated to the dustbin with the others.
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IceKat:
Oh please... you really are a piece of work.
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IceKat:
Clones never differ.
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IceKat:
Then go back into your playpen and play with your dollies, and leave the adults alone.
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IceKat:
You wouldn't know a fact if it sliced and diced and fried and force-fed you your gonads (assuming you have any).
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IceKat:
Prove it.
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IceKat:
That's not proof - how do I know you didn't pull all those figures out of your ass (like every allegations you make)?
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Blah blah blah blahitty blah. You made the assertions, the burden of proof is on you.
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I don't blindly believe anything, in fact I have no beliefs - there is what I know and there is what I don't know - that is because, unlike you, I am intellectually honest. As for being holier than you, that is dead easy, it is no achievement.
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I trust him a million time more than I trust you, for excellent reasons.
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I have no leaders, dearie. I trust him because he is eminently qualified, and you are not.
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It was only his former supervisor Dr. John S. Theon, and not NASA, that did so. Dr. John S. Theon also asserted that climate models are useless.
"Hansen has stated that NASA administrators have tried to influence his public statements about the causes of climate change.[76][77] Hansen said that NASA public relations staff were ordered to review his public statements and interviews after a December 2005 lecture at the American Geophysical Union in San Francisco. NASA responded that its policies are similar to those of any other federal agency in requiring employees to coordinate all statements with the public affairs office without exception.[78] Two years after Hansen and other agency employees described a pattern of distortion and suppression of climate science by political appointees, the agency’s inspector general found that the NASA Office of Public Affairs had mischaracterized the science of climate change intended for the public.[79]
"Hansen has also appeared on 60 Minutes stating that the George W. Bush White House edited climate-related press releases reported by federal agencies to make global warming seem less threatening.[80] He also stated that he was unable to speak freely without the backlash of other government officials, and that he has not experienced that level of restrictions on communicating with the public during his career.[80]"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Hansen
It is pretty clear and obvious that the oil-driven Bush administration was behind efforts to discredit Dr. James Hansen - it was glaringly obvious at the time, it still is today.
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IceKat:
deary, dearie [ˈdɪərɪ]
n 1. pl dearies Informal a term of affection: now often sarcastic or facetious - 2 years ago
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IceKat:
My use of the term was sarcastic, as per the definition above. There is not a shred of anything coming close to being endearing in you, quite the opposite.
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If you were well aware of the way I used the word, why did you ask, why did you question my use of the term? I only counter-insult - if you don't like being insulted, you know what not to do.
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IceKat:
That's better.
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Since you're so fond of posting graphs, here is one for your edification. Don't you see a trend?
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And another one. Spot a trend?
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Gravity_Man:
Increased evaporation due to warmer atmosphere and ocean temperatures is changing how many systems work.
http://www.wmo.int/pages/mediacentre/press_releases/pr_869_en.html
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"The year 2009 is likely to rank in the top 10 warmest on record since the beginning of instrumental climate records in 1850, according to data sources compiled by the World Meteorological Organization (WMO). The global combined sea surface and land surface air temperature for 2009 (January–October) is currently estimated at 0.44°C ± 0.11°C (0.79°F ± 0.20°F) above the 1961–1990 annual average of 14.00°C/57.2°F. The current nominal ranking of 2009, which does not account for uncertainties in the annual averages, places it as the fifth-warmest year. The decade of the 2000s (2000–2009) was warmer than the decade spanning the 1990s (1990–1999), which in turn was warmer than the 1980s (1980–1989). More complete data for the remainder of the year 2009 will be analysed at the beginning of 2010 to update the current assessment.
This year above-normal temperatures were recorded in most parts of the continents. Only North America (United States and Canada) experienced conditions that were cooler than average. Given the current figures, large parts of southern Asia and central Africa are likely to have the warmest year on record.
Climate extremes, including devastating floods, severe droughts, snowstorms, heatwaves and cold waves, were recorded in many parts of the world. This year the extreme warm events were more frequent and intense in southern South America, Australia and southern Asia, in particular. La Niña conditions shifted into a warm-phase El Niño-Southern Oscillation (ENSO) in June. The Arctic sea ice extent during the melt season ranked the third lowest, after the lowest and second-lowest records set in 2007 and 2008, respectively.
This preliminary information for 2009 is based on climate data from networks of land-based weather and climate stations, ships and buoys, as well as satellites. The data are continuously collected and disseminated by the National Meteorological and Hydrological Services (NMHSs) of the 189 Members of WMO and several collaborating research institutions. The data continuously feed three main depository global climate data and analysis centres, which develop and maintain homogeneous global climate datasets based on peer-reviewed methodologies. The WMO global temperature analysis is thus based on three complementary datasets. One is the combined dataset maintained by both the Hadley Centre of the UK Met Office and the Climatic Research Unit, University of East Anglia, United Kingdom. Another dataset is maintained by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) under the United States Department of Commerce, and the third one is from the Goddard Institute of Space Studies (GISS) operated by the National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA). The content of the WMO statement is verified and peer-reviewed by leading experts from other international, regional and national climate institutions and centres before its publication.
Final updates and figures for 2009 will be published in March 2010 in the annual WMO Statement on the Status of the Global Climate.
Regional temperature anomalies
The year 2009 (January–October) was again warmer than the 1961–1990 average all over Europe and the Middle East. China had the third-warmest year since 1951; for some regions 2009 was the warmest year. The year started with a mild January in northern Europe and large parts of Asia, while western and central Europe were colder than normal. Russia and the Great Lakes region in Canada experienced colder-than- average temperatures in February and January, respectively. Spring was very warm in Europe and Asia; April in particular was extremely warm in central Europe. Germany, the Czech Republic and Austria reported temperature anomalies of more than +5°C, breaking the previous records for the month in several locations. The European summer was also warmer than the long-term average, particularly over the southern regions. Spain had the third-warmest summer, with hotter summers reported only in 2003 and 2005. Italy recorded a strong heatwave in July, with maximum temperatures above 40°C, and some local temperatures reaching 45°C. A heatwave at the beginning of July affected the United Kingdom, France, Belgium and Germany, and some stations in Norway experienced new maximum temperature records.
India had an extreme heatwave event during May, which caused 150 deaths. A heatwave hit northern China during June, with daily maximum temperatures above 40°C; historical maximum temperature records were broken for the summer in some locations.
In late July many cities across Canada recorded their warmest daily temperatures. Vancouver and Victoria set new records, reaching 34.4°C and 35.0°C, respectively. Alaska also had the second-warmest July on record. Conversely, October was a very cold month across large parts of the United States. For the nation as a whole, it was the third-coolest October on record, with an average temperature anomaly of -2.2°C (-4.0°F). Similarly, a very cold October was reported in Scandinavia, with mean temperature anomalies ranging from -2°C to -4°C.
The austral autumn (March to May) was extremely warm in Argentina, Uruguay, Paraguay and southern Brazil. With daily temperatures ranging from 30°C to 40°C, several records were broken during this season. By the end of October, an extreme weather situation affected north and central Argentina, producing unusually high temperatures (above 40°C). Conversely, November was abnormally cold in the southern part of the region, with some rare and late snowfalls.
So far, Australia has had the third-warmest year on record. The year 2009 was marked by three exceptional heatwaves, which affected south-eastern Australia in January/February and November, and subtropical eastern Australia in August. The January/February heatwave was associated with disastrous bushfires that caused more than 173 fatalities. Victoria recorded its highest temperature with 48.8°C. The northern region experienced a cold summer, however, with anomalies reaching -3°C to -4°C in some places. Winter was exceptionally mild over much of Australia. Maximum temperatures were well above normal across the entire continent, reaching 6°C to 7°C above normal in some parts. The national maximum temperature anomaly of +3.2°C was the largest ever recorded for any month.:
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Yes, and it only proves our point. But again, it is the length as well that constitutes an "official" heatwave, but don't you love the desperation here of certain individuals even when ignored who hang on here to dispute everything posted and actually wind up making your point about the unusal weather Australia has been having? Even if it is an unsourced quote from a "cricket match" site. Again, no science, only obsession with proving the target wrong. I think that addiction to fossil fuel is much stronger than we thought.
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6040IE20100105
Australia Scorches Under Its Hottest Decade On Recordhttp://current.com/news/92873669_the-wild-weather-of-2010-a-year-of-climate-weat...
2010-a year of climate weather extremes
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http://www.bom.gov.au/jsp/awap/rain/index.jsp?colour=colour&time=latest&...
This is the link where you can check rainfall for an area and time span. This is Queensland ( where it is now flooding) over the past twelve months. Pretty intense.
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I wouldn't exactly say they are "winning" cards or even cards at all. I'm not here to have a contest with fools or to recruit anyone to "my side" because there is no "side" in this to me, only the truth. I'm not here to put on a show, I'm here because I am truly concerned about where we are headed. It is the neocons, teabaggers, some Democrats who play the game as well, the MEDIA, oil barons and their minions, and those in the service of keeping the status quo who have made this into a political/ ideological football in their attempt to keep people asleep for their benefit regarding this, and it stinks to high heaven.
This is the main reason why I will no longer engage the same disruptors on these threads as they fall into that group. They use every tactic from the Internet troll playbook to demean, disrupt a thread, change the topic and cast doubt on the very reality that is posted, all for an obvious agenda (and attention it seems for some as the most prolific responder in this thread can only be found for the most part in threads I post) that goes beyond just "disagreeing" about something.
And I honestly have no time for these antics nor the pedantic attempts to divide and conquer. The reality as it is playing out in this world is what we should be concentrating on, not the personal grudges of those on an Internet message board who play political games and don't really know Sh** about what they're talking about.
I BTW, do not think the end is near, I think WE have brought ourselves to a point of moral introspection collectively through our actions when we will be forced to look into the abyss, and are at that point now. What we do after looking into it is what posting truth to bring awareness and action is all about. And that for me is not political or ideological in scope. It however has everything to do with the moral compass of a species that appears on the whole to be going way off into the stratosphere. And I will not be deterred in posting what is happening in the hope that the truly positive place we could make this world if we truly had the will to do so can still come to fruition. That will however, only seems to come when we have pushed ourselves to the point of no return. We must not allow that to happen in this case because it is all on the line now.
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The big difference between Gravity Man and you is that there is method and logic in his madness, but not a trace of them in yours.
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How do you know it is not true? Yes, there is logic and method in his madness, but none in yours.
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I neither believe nor disbelieve. With regard to AGW, it is not a matter of belief, it is a question of knowledge (something you sorely lack).
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Compared to the amount of real science demonstrating that AGW is a fact, the "volume of information that has shown AGW to be bullshit" is outnumbered 10,000 to 1 and based on phony science and hysteria.
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I don't have any religion, and IceKat posts only disinformation, as do you.
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Here is fact (also, you are the one who should prove your assertions are fact, you are the one on whom lies the burden of proof).
http://www.columbia.edu/~jeh1/mailings/2010/20101211_TemperatureAndEurope.pdf
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http://www.theage.com.au/national/queensland-floods-a-disaster-of-biblical-propo...
An update.
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"Queensland floods a 'disaster of biblical proportions'
Erik Jensen and Ruth Williams
January 2, 2011
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Rachel Hillier, right, and friend, Bek Bond rescue the dogs from Rachel's home, a kilometre from Rockhampton CBD. Photo: Janie BarrettQUEENSLAND was suffering a flood ''disaster of biblical proportions'' that could cost the state's economy more than $1 billion, its government said yesterday as the army set up a joint task force to co-ordinate relief efforts.
Authorities said 200,000 people in 22 cities and towns had been affected by the worst floods in Queensland's history.
The state's Emergency Services Minister, Neil Roberts, said it was a miracle that no one had died or suffered a serious injury as the floods peaked over the past week, following five flood-related deaths last month.
More than 1000 people were in 17 evacuation centres across the state, a figure expected to reach 4000 in the next few days. Police and emergency services were last night using two helicopters to search for a man whose tin boat was swamped by choppy flood waters near the mouth of Boyne River in the small coastal town of Tannum Sands, south of Gladstone.
In Rockhampton, central Queensland, residents last night were preparing for water levels to reach a height that crippled the regional centre in 1991. The Fitzroy River was expected to reach nine metres this afternoon, flooding up to 40 per cent of the city, which has a population of 75,000.
Police last night announced that the Bruce and Capricorn highways at Yeppen, south of Rockhampton, had been closed by floodwaters. The city may be isolated for up to 10 days; the airport closed to commercial flights yesterday afternoon.
The worst of the floods are not expected in Rockhampton until Tuesday, when the river is expected to peak at 9.4 metres. Scuffles broke out in one supermarket as people panicked for supplies, but police said there had been no reports of looting and additional officers had been sent to the city.
Queensland Treasurer Andrew Fraser warned of serious economic consequences from the crisis, saying he would delay his mid-year economic review to factor in the cost of the floods. ''In many ways, it is a disaster of biblical proportions,'' he said from flood-hit Bundaberg."
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Watch the coastlines...The oceans are "talking" to us.
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And yet it's getting even drier. Despite the flooding ;)
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http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/04/100416094050.htm
Ocean Salinities Show An Intensified Water Cycle
"The study finds a clear link between salinity changes at the surface driven by ocean warming and changes in the ocean subsurface which follow the trajectories along which surface water travels into the ocean interior.
The ocean's average surface temperature has risen around 0.4ºC since 1950. As the near surface atmosphere warms it can evaporate more water from the surface ocean and move it to new regions to release it as rain and snow. Salinity patterns reflect the contrasts between ocean regions where the oceans lose water to the atmosphere and the others where it is re-deposited on the surface as salt-free rainwater.
"Observations of rainfall and evaporation over the oceans in the 20th century are very scarce. These new estimates of ocean salinity changes provide a rigorous benchmark to better validate global climate models and start to narrow the wide uncertainties associated with water cycle changes and oceanic processes both in the past and the future -- we can use ocean salinity changes as a rain-gauge," Mr Durack said.
Based on historical records and data provided by the Argo Program's world-wide network of ocean profilers -- robotic submersible buoys which record and report ocean salinity levels and temperatures to depths of two kilometres -- the research was conducted by CSIRO's Wealth from Oceans Flagship and partially funded by the Australian Climate Change Science Program. Australia's Integrated Marine Observing System is a significant contributor to the global Argo Program."
________This may also well be a contributing factor to the erratic and severe climate events taking place globally, along with Co2 oversaturation of our oceans.
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IceKat:
I don't think you quite understand this whole weather thing. :)
You see, climate change is a global phenomena, GLOBAL. As such, things like La Nina and El Nino are a part of it.It's like when a Libertarian nutjob rails at the government when a policeman gives him a speeding ticket. Unlike you, he at least understands that the one is an agent for the other.
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http://www.climatechange2010.org/abstract/68.asp
Considering The Impact Of Climate Change On Flood Risk/Australia: Abstracts and Case Study.
"Potential climate change impacts upon sea levels and flood producing rainfall events can be expected to result in significant changes to the exposure of communities to flood risk.
These changes in exposure are partially driven by changes in flood behaviour which can alter significantly dependent upon the susceptibility of a location to changes in both sea level and flood producing rainfall intensities and the vulnerability of the local community and its infrastructure to this risk.
This paper outlines how changes to these impacts can affect flooding and includes the findings of some preliminary assessments of the impacts on potential climate change affects on exposure to flood risk in NSW. The paper uses case studies to examine the impacts of sea level rise on flood risk and broader work to assess impacts of potential changes in flood producing rainfall events on communities.
The paper discusses options to adapting for climate change impacts upon flooding and discusses the need of practitioners for additional advice on the impact of climate change on factors influencing flood producing rainfall events to enable their effective consideration in decision making."
...http://www.statesman.com/news/world/australia-battles-immense-flood-1156646.html...
And just to add, the immensity of this particular flooding and the fact that this many people are now cut off from food, water, etc. is also worth paying attention to. It is not the fact that floods occur in summer in this area, that is already known, so don't fall for that false meme that this is common so you don't have to be concerned about the fact that it even happened. That is simply bordering on apathetic. Flooding may well be a common thing in this area, however, it is being stated this is unprecedented in scope and I would say so as well when people need military helicopters to drop food to them. I didn't know that was a common occurence here. It is the scope and immensity of this that should garner our attention especially in line with other severe current events of this nature taking place around the globe as they are affecting agriculture, economy and real peoples' lives.
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http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-world/erratic-weather-threatens-food-securi...
Erratic Weather Threatens Food Security.
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"The drought in Russia and floods in Pakistan are part of a global trend of unpredictable weather patterns and rainfall that threaten food security, experts gathered in Stockholm said."We are getting to a point where we are getting more water, more rainy days, but it's more variable, so it leads to droughts and it leads to floods," Sunita Narain, the head of the Centre for Science and Environment in India, told AFP on the sidelines of the World Water Week conference.
"That is leading to huge amounts of stress on agriculture and livelihoods," she said, adding that "climate change is making rainfall even more variable."
Advertisement: Story continues below Narain was one of around 2,500 experts from 130 countries gathered in Stockholm for the 20th edition of the World Water Week, which opened on Sunday and is set to run until Saturday.
Her comments came as eight million people in Pakistan remain dependent on handouts for their survival after monsoons caused devastating floods throughout the country.
Russia is also still struggling with the aftermath of its hottest summer on record, during which drought and fires destroyed a quarter of the country's crops and prompted the government to slap a highly controversial ban on grain exports to protect domestic supplies.
This contributed to soaring global wheat and overall food prices and sparked worries of a crisis in global food supplies.
But it is not only in such extreme cases that changing weather patterns and unpredictable rainfall is causing problems.
"Millions of farmers in communities dependent on rain-fed agriculture are at risk from decreasing and erratic availability of water," head of the Sri Lanka-based International Water Management Institute (IWMI) Colin Chartres said in a statement.
IWMI published a report on Monday stressing that the unpredictable weather required large investments in a diverse array of water storage options to counter the uncertainty.
Some 66 per cent of total crops in Asia are not irrigated, while in Africa a full 94 per cent is rain-fed, according to the institute, which estimates that around 500 million people in Africa and India would benefit from improved agricultural water management."
_____________As we saw in Russia, Pakistan as well as Australia after a (edit) seven year drought, and in Africa, South America, ( the Amazon which has experienced drought recently as well) and in the Southwest in the US after a three year drought, erratic weather patterns are threatening food security for millions of people which in turn threatens biodiversity, the global economy, and national security. The pattern being established is one in which places on Earth that are the main growers of food are seeing either drought or flood. This does not bode well for the future of food security. That combined with TRIPs laws that give power to agribusiness companies with patents on nature (biopiracy) in collusion with governments to control seeds and market speculation is a recipe for disaster.
Changes need to be made in agriculture that will sequester soil carbon and nutrients and give back the power of preserving our food security and sovereignty to those people who know the land rather than governments and agribusiness which is in turn run by big oil thus exacerbating this crisis. Fossil fuel agriculture combined with other fossil fuel use and deforestation is leading us towards a climate tipping point. Don't let those with an agenda push you over the cliff because you were too distracted by their rhetoric and smoke and mirrors shows to see the truth. Climate change is a force that we will now have to reckon with and adapt to. Listen to those living it, not those denying it for their own selfish reasons.
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http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/11/071108-australia-drought.html
Farmer suicides in Australia during the drought:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/6065220.stm - 2 years ago
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IceKat:
Extremes aren't as important, it's general trends that matter.
These events HAVE been linked to the La Nina and El Nino currents, but it's also widely agreed that events tied to those weather influencing currents have been getting steadily worse, especially the extent of the drought periods during El Nino.You are right to point at the problem with overemphasis on extremes distorting the picture, but disingenuous to try and use the knowledge you have to discredit the notion of climate change.
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ozoneocean:
And I didn't even type the words climate change or global warming here and the usual assigned posters jumped on it. It speaks volumes as to their true motives for being here... Which is why I am ignoring every single one of them. It's a new year and I have no time for their pathetic unsourced graphs and assinine pictures, their desperate denials, their political bs, and their outright ignorance. These are indeed events that point to trends that we need to understand and look at throughout the world in total much more attentively in piecing them together in light of what is happening in the Arctic and with ocean currents as well as glaciers worldwide and the effect on the hydrologic cycle. It is then a waste of time to try to reason with the same batch of boring paid operatives and those who clearly have a political agenda. I've got more work to do presenting reality, I don't have time to engage in their fantasyland.
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eco nut liberal saving the world...
I want to make janforgore...my own personal jesus..
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ayipis:
Satan is looking for someone....is that you?
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for most eco-nuts..the world never changes......its always sunny where they live and its always cold where penguins live..
that is what the MOVIES tell them...
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a quick and easy way to understand global warming...
watch the movie...right after al gore'$
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its global warming...
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its global warming
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its from global warming
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The climate whether process is destabilizing .
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Where are all the empire is very well dressed gummbas now!
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http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/economy/indicators/rains-drown-indias-c...
Excerpt:
"From onions, sugar and coconuts, to tea, pulses, rice and spices, all kitchen ingredients will remain expensive in the New Year as unseasonal rains beyond the monsoon wipe out India’s major crops.
Worse, rains are hampering the sowing of winter wheat, coarse grains and oilseeds, putting further pressure on food inflation that touched a two-and-a-half month high at 14.44% on Thursday.
Across the country, farmers are helplessly watching their fields turn into muddy pools and crops to mulch. A good monsoon and prospects of a bountiful kharif harvest had led the government to confidently claim that food would turn cheaper after the harvest is in by October.
India grows major commercial crops such as rice, pulses, soyabean, groundnuts, corn, rubber, coffee, tea, cotton and sugarcane, onions, spices and tomatoes in summer.
For Meera Devi of village Dharampur in Solan district of Himachal Pradesh, 2010 has been a destructive year. “In 2009, we didn’t have rains and this year there was so much of it that fields were flooded, weeds were overgrown and I felt helpless. Even after working in rains, I was just able to get marginal returns from tomato, french beans, pumpkin, capsicum and peas,” she says. In a normal year, vegetables fetch her Rs 1.5 lakh per acre.
By end-October, the north had received 359% extra rain, central India 100%, Tamil Nadu 20% and the country as a whole 40%. Maharashtra has officially pegged rain-related damage at 1.2 million hectares. Andhra Pradesh, Karnataka, Kerala, Gujarat, Punjab and Uttar Pradesh are totting up losses.
Crop damage and the ensuing price spiral affects every Indian household and business one way or another. Export of spices and cotton are down."
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Don't tell me you can't connect the dots on this. - 2 years ago
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JanforGore:
..let me guess..."global warming......
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JanforGore:
are you playing jesus again..jan
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http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/23/world/asia/23flood.html
Torrential rains and severe flooding in China.
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JanforGore:
..let me guess.."global warming"....
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http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/subjects/f/floods/2010_pakis...
Record rain and floods in Pakistan. - 2 years ago
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JanforGore:
..let me guess ..'global warming...
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40736789/ns/weather/
Record rains in California.
Excerpt:
"A powerful storm system with drenching rain, heavy snow and high winds lashed California on Monday, but forecasters warned the worst was yet to come.
Even stronger storms were bearing down on the state and threatened to dump another 5 to 10 inches of rain during the next two days.
Virtually the entire state was affected by the bad weather.
Some locations in Southern California had received more than 12 inches of rain, said meteorologist Jamie Meier of the National Weather Service. It was the most rainfall from one storm event since 2005, he said.
"That will make for a pretty good wallop, especially considering how dry things have been for the last two years," Meier said.
Downtown Los Angeles got 5 1/4 inches of rain since Friday morning, more than a third of the average annual precipitation.
The National Weather Service said a record .98 inches of rain fell at Los Angeles International Airport Monday, the most for the date since 1952."
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JanforGore:
..let me guess..'global warming'........
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http://www.circleofblue.org/waternews/2010/world/deadly-la-nina-goes-global%e2%8...
Record rains in Latin America.
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"Hundreds have died in Colombian floods, as cooler sea temperatures affect regions around the Pacific; climate change seen as a possible cause.
The weather phenomenon known as La Niña is having wide-ranging impacts around the Pacific basin, as Colombia copes with record rains and New Zealand swelters through a heat wave.The El Niño Southern Oscillation (ENSO) climate pattern is a coupled ocean-atmosphere phenomenon consisting of El Niño and La Niña cycles. This year is being classified as a moderate-to-strong La Niña, following 2009’s especially intense El Niño year.
La Niña is characterized by colder than usual water currents along the Pacific coast of the Western Hemisphere, which lead to a severe rainy season from May through November in Mexico, Central America, and the northern part of South America.
According to the United Nations Environmental Programme, although ENSO is naturally occurring, a warming climate may contribute to an increase in the frequency and intensity of El Niño cycles. La Niña cycles double the likelihood of intense weather, such as hurricanes and tropical storms, for much of the Caribbean and the Gulf of Mexico.
In November, rainfall in the Caribbean was five times the average of 2 inches and in the central highlands of Colombia, rainfall was more than double the average of 3.5 inches.
Colombia Floods Damage Homes, Roads, and Foods
In Colombia, this year’s rainy season—the worst in 42 years—has been exceedingly severe, with close to 300 deaths and more than 2 million people affected over the last two months, according to the BBC.More than 20,000 homes have been damaged and nearly 2,000 completely destroyed, according to AccuWeather. Nearly a quarter of the nation’s paved roads have been damaged or destroyed and more than 41,000 cattle have been lost, reported the Associated Press."
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JanforGore:
..let me guess..'global warming'........
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http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/12/30/3103613.htm
'Flood on flood' flows into Lake Eyre
By Chrissy ArthurWater from the Cooper Creek system is flowing into Lake Eyre and there is more on the way from floods in the Thomson and Barcoo systems
Floodwaters from Queensland's west are expected to again make it to Lake Eyre in South Australia's far north.
Professor Richard Kingsford from the University of New South Wales says water from the Cooper Creek system is flowing into the lake and there is more on the way from floods in the Thomson and Barcoo systems.
He says it has been 20 years since there have been back-to-back flood events of this size.
"This is really amazing because this is, if you like, another flood on another flood," he said.
"This is a very rare event - last time was in 1989.
"That went almost right through the system and that was followed by a 1990 flood that went over the top of it.
"But I think at this stage, it looks as if this might even be greater than that one."
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JanforGore:
..let me guess..'global warming'........
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