Elliot Coleman: of course organic farming can feed the world
source: http://theatlantic.com/food/archive/2010/12/a-visit-from-maines-organic-gardening-guru/68586
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Yale's Timothy Dwight common room is packed. The room quiets down, and a couple hundred Ivy affiliates surrender their ears ... to a farmer.
The man, the farmer, the legend, is Eliot Coleman, educator, advocate of Four Seasons Farming (a year-round farming philosophy of his own creation), and author of several seminal books on organic farming. For nearly 40 years, Coleman has championed the organic farming cause, testing his methods on one and a half acres of the very successful Four Seasons Farm, on his property in Maine.
"Of course organic farming can feed the world," Coleman said. The audience was dumbstruck.Coleman began by explaining that it was his taste for adventure that got him into farming. In his mid-twenties, Coleman was hiking, trekking, and climbing mountains, hauling a 90-pound bag of gear, venturing into nature for three or four weeks at a time: "It was a heck of a lot harder than farming," he said. Coleman defines farming as a socially responsible adventure; the best adventure he has had so far, with the decades of dedication to the cause a hard-hitting testament to that fact.
In addition to farming and adventure, Coleman loves reading—a combination that birthed the success of his farming practice. Coleman briefed us on his story: he was a "kid from New Jersey" who started out at Williams College as a geology major, ending up with a master's in Spanish literature, with absolutely no background in agriculture. Apart from having a sense of adventure, and paying attention to the systems already present in nature (a skill that he learned while hiking and mountain-climbing), Coleman got started in agriculture by reading old gardening books from the 1800s, to learn how people grew crops before pesticides and fertilizer. "I'm a Jeffersonian farmer," Coleman said, "I read things." What he learned, apparently, is alarmingly simple: You just have to grow them correctly.
Coleman explained that he utilizes a system of crop rotations based on regular soil amendments, and he uses the presence of pests to gauge if he is growing correctly: "Pests are the best Professors of Agriculture," he said. He began to wax lyrical about nature, the force that is his second love (after his longtime wife, Barbara Damrosch, a renowned horticulturalist and author, who was seated in the front row).
"Nature is the most elegantly designed system," Coleman said, going on to propose his theory that nature's "flaws" are actually in man's understanding of nature, not in nature herself. I began to get a sense of the greater mythology that governs Coleman's practice. It seemed that if only we work with nature, instead of trying to control her, then we, too, could match the success of Coleman's approach. "This mountain doesn't have a top!" he exclaimed, reminding us that there is always more to learn.
Coleman segued to the heart of his story: He told us that he turned part of his 40 acres of rocky, woody land, with an initial soil pH of 4.3, in the harsh conditions of Maine, into a 1½ acre farm that yields $120,000 worth of produce a year. "Of course organic farming can feed the world," Coleman said. The audience was dumbstruck; it was almost as if Coleman was responding to that feeling in the room when he said, "The word 'impossible' scares people off of things that if they tried, they'd realize weren't so impossible."
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trut
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Even the lowely Vatican comes out against GMOs.
http://beta.ca.news.yahoo.com/vatican-official-backs-off-perceived-approval-gene... - 1 year ago
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Ricky84
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trut:
Lol, yes because when it comes to understanding and or providing accurate information about science The Vatican is a trusted source. You sir are my hero.
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Ricky84
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Jim_Sadler
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Obviously we will need a combination of actions to feed the population and keep food safe. Keeping population at a smaller lever, reducing urban sprawl, keeping soil, air and water free of pollutants, raising crops in a more local way, reduction of business influences, legislation making it easy to sell food are all important to supplying, quality food continuously to our bloated populations.
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Jim_Sadler
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Verniel
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Organic farming has been feeding the world for many centuries even before any farming technology came out! Today, organic farming is the way to go. Farmers should use green technology and smart energy solutions to lessen the toll on the environment and the atmosphere. People should also install green gadgets and appliances in their homes. A great site I found that's related to this topic is at Organic Mechanic. Feel free to check it out.
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Verniel
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JanforGore
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In this video Mr. Coleman explains his process. The secret to the success is crop rotation to allow year round growing. To those who think he is "full of shit", you just don't know that much about organic farming.
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JanforGore
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Jim_Sadler
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Raising your own food supply can create expense and a lot of labor. Raising a portion of your own food is more realistic for most people. The Great Depression had a lot of folks raising rabbits, pigeons and chickens as well as a few vegetables to get by. Rabbits and pigeons are really productive. Chickens give eggs as well as meat but need more space and odor can be a problem. In my area, oranges,mango and grapefruit almost grow themselves without much help at all. But those crops don't feel like food to a lot of people. An orange just isn't a T bone steak.
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Jim_Sadler
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royulery
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in the mid '70s i worked on a commune that had an organic farm. 2+ acres fed 200 people using the "french intensive system" and companion planting, albeit we had limitless fertallizer with our 300 head dairy. it is amazing, how much can grow in a small space if you understand what plants like. i should mention that the garden didn't include grains, potatoes or melons, those guys take a lot of space. one watermellon plant can take over 10x10 feet.
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royulery
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jj2010
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I don't think our planet was created to change it's harmony, But we have done a great job in doing so......genetically modified seeds, cross breeding plants......I think I would rather pay money for expensive Healthy foods then pay a profit driven health insurance premium!!!
I think Elliot needs to spread his work around the US. the day i own my first house I will be raising my own food!
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jj2010
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Jim_Sadler
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jj2010:
The harmony of the planet is violence,calamity and mass exterminations. This rock is not a peaceful place as nature is violent beyond all imagination. Man is not in conflict with nature when he creates different ways of creating food. And we do not force anyone, including third world nations to stray away from traditional farming. In 1970 we saw mass starvation in India due to fertilizer and pesticides resulting in far less employment in the labor sector. The food was better and easier to grow but became so inexpensive that the now jobless farm workers could no longer afford food. Frankly progress will always result in some unexpected calamities and some will effect millions upon millions of people in both wonderful and awful ways. I'm not all so certain that even having consideration of secondary effects is legitimate. For example what would the world be like if germs and inoculation had never been discovered? We would not be so over populated. Does that imply that we should have held back medical technology? Large scale food production needs improvement. But all in all it is doing an astoundingly good job. And yes I do hate what has happened to things like apples which now have poor flavor and taste like a piece of wood. I hate real maple syrup being priced out of the super markets as well and we don't even want to talk about the price of good lobsters.
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Jim_Sadler
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It all depends upon what you grow. A fairly small, dark building could raise mushrooms non stop. And mushrooms are expensive. I know that some mushrooms are very fast growing. With a fairly small space you might have a harvest every day.
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Jim_Sadler
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I suspect that very high yields involve indoor or greenhouse farming, perhaps vertical farming and maybe even crops such as mushrooms that can grow in a cave. But intensive agriculture can yield quite a lot of produce. I'm in Florida with outdoor tomato plants growing and producing right now.
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Jim_Sadler
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projectmayhem
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I make 5 million a year off one tomato plant. Jan you still dreamin?
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projectmayhem
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Kinda hard to beleive that 120,000 $ of food per year can be grown on 1.5 acres. I've lived on 1.5 acres, and it really isn't that much area. I wonder what his prices are like for say a pound of tomatoes? Do people pay more for his vegetables because his farm is famous?
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good_stuff:
http://www.fourseasonfarm.com/index.html
I couldn't find any prices here but by the looks of his operation I could believe it. And perhaps unlike the lying amateur corporate shill trolls that post in these threads making it up as they go along just to be contrarian, he is actually a good farmer.
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JanforGore
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projectmayhem
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JanforGore:
thats because youre delusional
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Jim_Sadler
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Everything that you eat has been genetically altered both now and in centuries long past. That is what farmers have always done. Cross breeding of variants in order to produce better stock and plants has been going on for thousands of years. There is nothing frightening about it at all. By the way, if you eat some organic, naturally raised chicken or beef you'll probably hate it. Grass fed beef is one great example. Without a high calorie diet the meat is just nasty. It is the fat and the grains that give beef flavor. Organic chickens tend to have huge bones and a lot less meat and lack flavor as well. I do agree that indoor farming is the wave of the future but it should not be modeled after the organic folks beliefs. Even the term organic has no meaning other than in chemistry where it simply means containing carbon.
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Jim_Sadler
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Jim_Sadler:
I think you are confusing crossbreeding of plants with genetic modification between species. That has not been done for centuries.
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JanforGore
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organics the way to go, we've already put at least some genetically manufactured food in our mouths without knowing the truth, those days need to be long gone.
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Jim_Sadler
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The food supply and population are locked together. By implementation of strict control of reproduction we can lower the cost of food by lowering the demand. With less demand the quality of food must increase for the growers to compete for the limited money available. Most problems are rooted in over population and no politician wants to touch mandatory birth control. This may be the fatal flaw in the concept of electing officials as opposed to a dictatorship where rules can be applied without concern for agreement by the masses.
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Jim_Sadler:
The food supply and access to it are what is tied together. Giving people without access to it due to the WTO, IMF, World Bank policies, market speculation, farm subsidies, using land to grow food for biofuel, and patenting of seeds by the Monsantos of the world a chance to grow their own food and save their seeds while farming sustainably would go a long way to providing food for the world population. You sound like a "gentle" eugenist to me.
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JanforGore
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Ricky84
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Yeah and we could probably also stop underage pregnancies if we could just find a way to get all kids to practice abstinence.
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We have structural issues that prohibit progress. For example people in condominiums can not usually garden. Florida has 1200 golf courses yet does not feed the poor adequately. How is it that we allow condos to prohibit gardening or allow golf courses to exist while people suffer from malnutrition? And would it not be easier for people to catch fish if we ended commercial fishing. That way the individual willing to take the time to catch a fish prospers instead of a grocery store.
Just as technology has the goal of elimination of human labor we now need a goal of keeping business out of areas of our lives. Things like energy and food production, even in cities, needs to shift away from business and more to the individual. Zoning regulations and neighborhood associations inhibit progress and need to have powers stripped away from them. Regulations that stop making a fish pond, a windmill, or a home made from waste materials at hand need to vanish. - 1 year ago
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Jim_Sadler
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i will do my part even if I can only grow a little I will grow what i can. I ask that you all do the same. I'm tired of the Goverment and large corporations. telling me what I can do and what i can't do. I can grow food I can do my part to save the planet from the greedy bastards that want to control what we eat and what we say what we see and what we hear. i know i don't make much sense to most of you folks but I know whats right and whats wrong. The we are being treated by our goverment is wrong. What ever happen to the small family farm or the backyard garden. that was the kids job to weed after school it taught us what it was like to work. I'm sure that most here grew up eating what was grown in the garden well ok those of us over thirty.
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It's Sully!!!!!
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As it always has since well before the 20th century when petrochemical
fertilizers & Corporate factory farming attempted to replace the ratio
of 10 organic farmers to feed 100 people to 1 farmer with machines
to feed 1000 people. Since then the few people at the top of the food
chain have been manipulating everyone so they could make obscene
profits doing nothing, while impoverishing the farmers doing everything.
The quality of the food has been diminished proportunately to the vast
quality being produced. Meanwhile we've been lulled into cheaper food
at the expense of the public health. Organic food=the most healthful food
per acre. Corporate food=the most dollars per acre. But you can't eat
money. And all that is changing radicaly and rapidly. For several years
now during the Recession, food retailers have diminished portions
canned and bottled for years now to avoid raising prices. But in 2011,
prices of food commodities are expected to change. So buy localy
from your community farmers market, and grow your own food where
ever you can. Each dollar you spend supporting local organic farmers
doubles the value of that dollar to $2 in community commonwealth. Imho,
except for the proliferation of cheap electric cars, and green jobs, I can't
think of a more immediate economic stimulus benefiting everyone
deserving it than that. Concentrating on the waealth of local communities
is what built up the USA. Exporting the commonwealth to support the
globalist greedos has only impoverished Americans by exporting jobs abroad. - 1 year ago
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PressCore:
I do see critical mass coming regarding our food system. More and more people are gettting involved in community gardens, CSAs, local food, and other sustainable agricultural practices.There will only be so much more mileage fossil fuel agribusiness will be able to get out of their scam before people in droves start to realize that their illnesses are in large part because of their fake seeds and poisons stripping our land, toxifying our water, and decreasing our food quality. Perhaps in 2011 we will see the metamorphosis necessary to make the changes we need on a wider scale and it couldn't come fast enough, because it is also an important part of the climate change solution.
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JanforGore
