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Supreme Court Looks At Smell-Based Home Searches For Pot

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Can Police Can Kick Down Your Door If They Smell Pot? Some Justices Think So

Police smelling marijuana coming from behind an apartment door can enter the home without a warrant if they believe the evidence is being destroyed, some U.S. Supreme Court Justices said on Wednesday.

More than 60 years ago, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that police couldn't enter a residence without a warrant just because they smelled burning opium, reports Adam Liptak at The New York Times.

On Wednesday, during the argument of a case about what police were entitled to do upon smelling marijuana outside the door of a Kentucky apartment, two justices were concerned that the Court may be ready to eviscerate the 1948 ruling which stemmed from a Seattle case.

​"Aren't we just simply saying they can just walk in whenever they smell marijuana, whenever they think there's drugs on the other side?" asked Justice Sonia Sotomayor, considering what a decision against the defendant would tell the police. "Why do even bother giving them a search warrant?"

The old ruling, Johnson v. United States, involved the search of a Seattle hotel room. The smell of drugs could provide probably cause for a warrant, Justice Robert H. Jackson wrote for the majority, but it did not entitle police to enter without one.

"No suspect was fleeing or likely to take flight," Justice Jackson wrote. "The search was of permanent premises, not of a movable vehicle. No evidence or contraband was threatened with removal or destruction."

Since the War On Drugs was re-started by President Ronald Reagan in the 1980s, the Supreme Court has steadily given police more leeway to search cars, travelers and baggage, reports David Savage at the Los Angeles Times. But the justices have been reluctant to allow searches of homes without a warrant.

In the new case, Kentucky v. King, police in Kentucky were looking for a suspect who had sold cocaine to an informant. They smelled burning marijuana coming from another apartment -- where Hollis King and his friends were smoking marijuana -- knocked loudly, and announced themselves.

When they heard sounds coming from inside that made them think evidence was being destroyed, they kicked the door in and found marijuana, cocaine, King, two friends, and some cash, but not the original suspect, who was in another apartment.

King was sentenced to 11 years(!) in prison, but the Kentucky Supreme Court overturned his conviction and threw out the evidence, ruling that any risk of drugs' being destroyed was the result of the decision by police to knock and announce themselves rather than to obtain a warrant. The Kentucky court ruled that officers had entered the apartment illegally and that the evidence they found should not have been considered in court, reports Robert Barnes at The Washington Post.

The key issue is whether an "exigent" or emergency circumstance allows the police to enter a residence without a warrant. Sadly but no longer shockingly, Obama Administration lawyers joined the case on the side of Kentucky's prosecutors.

The police who broke into the apartment "reasonably believed that there was destruction of evidence occurring inside," said Ann O'Connell, an assistant to Obama's Solicitor General.

Prosecutors for Kentucky and the federal government told the justices Wednesday that the Kentucky court had erred. They claimed there had been no violation of the Fourth Amendment, which bars unreasonable searches, because they claimed police had "acted lawfully."

​But Justice Elena Kagan had doubts about that approach.

If the court looks only at the lawfulness of police behavior, Justice Kagan said, that "is going to enable the police to penetrate the home, to search the home, without a warrant, without going to see a magistrate, in a very wide variety of cases."

All the police would need to say, Justice Kagan said, is that they smelled marijuana and then heard a noise. "Or," she added, "we think there was some criminal activity going on for whatever reason and we heard noise."

"How do you prevent your test from essentially eviscerating the warrant requirement in the context of the one place that the Fourth Amendment was most concerned about?" Kagan asked Kentucky Assistant Attorney General Joshua D. Farley, who claimed the police had done nothing that violated the Fourth Amendment.

Justice Sotomayor was even more direct, asking "Aren't we just doing away with 'Johnson'?"

Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg asked why the police could not simply roam the hallways of apartment buildings, sniffing for pot, knocking whenever they smelled marijuana, then breaking in if they "hear something suspicious."

"That would be perfectly fine," Kentucky Assistant Atttorney General Farley replied.

Justice Antonin Scalia revealed some unflattering things about his worldview -- which, God help us, seems to be that of a judgmental 10-year-old -- as he said he was not troubled by the standard the government lawyers proposed. He said that police can't go wrong by knocking loudly on the door.

"There are a lot of constraints on law enforcement," Justice Scalia said, "and the one thing that it has going for it is that criminals are stupid."

Scalia said that "criminals" often cooperate with police when not legally required to do so. They might open the door and let officers inside -- and if not, the police can break in, he said.

"Everything done was perfectly lawful," Scalia said. "It's unfair to the criminal? Is that the problem? I really don't understand the problem."

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51 comments // Supreme Court Looks At Smell-Based Home Searches For Pot

  • Conniepae
    • +1
      Conniepae  
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    • http://hubpages.com/hub/Jim-Webb--prison-reform

      What happened to Jim Webb? Why aren't we hearing about Jim Webb and prison reform? Has he dropped the ball? Have others persuaded him to not pursue prison reform, because prisons will be privatized soon? Money, money, money!

      Our prisons are already full, turning them into prisons for profit would be a travesty. How many families have already been damaged due to the war on drugs and prison for non-violent offenders? Mothers, fathers, sisters and brothers sent to jail, or put into the criminal justice system for consuming cannabis based on spin and disinformation.

      We have more people in prison than any other country in the world. Justice Scalia thinks they should generate more prisoners based on smell, not actions. Someone consuming cannabis in their own apartments, can be busted because people can smell it? It costs people much of what they earn to pay for their apartments and someone can smell cannabis and bust down their door? Even if they have not committed a crime, other than generating a smell. 'Move along', get away from their door, don't break it down. That's just sad!

    • 1 year ago
  • dreamsenvoy
  • simplecj
  • EmperorThan
  • kyackr
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      kyackr  
    • yeah right.. next thing ya know.. cops will be able to kick in your door if they hear the toilet flush.... after all you might be destroying the evidence

    • 1 year ago
  • Dren_Bennet
  • Rob_Owens
  • GENERALNATTY
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      GENERALNATTY  
    • why is weed even illegal , is weed seriously worth billions of dollars in policing ,court time and locking people up? Is protecting society from some kush worth taking a life over ? no , legalize and tax the damn thing already , we are not in the dark ages anymore even the president and the two presidents before him damn well knew it wasn't worth the trouble. What weed is , is a leftover political taboo from the war against drugs campaign , they spent millions of dollars telling people marijuana is bad bad bad , now every politician is a afraid to say hey its not that bad after all.

      Does the american taxpayer need to spend millions of dollars on helicopters to fly over places in the caribbean and in central and south america burning weed fields and giving foreign nations funds to fight a battle they dont really even have their hearts in to do?

      C'mon man wake up , take that money fund healthcare and help the poor and middle class out , sitting up in court paying all these people obscene amounts of money to drag out a proceeding on whether or not cops can act on a smell at your door , smh what a fucking joke.

    • 1 year ago
  • wally60
  • Conniepae
  • CitizenHill
  • juicie
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      juicie  
    • Too expensive to smoke, you can easily go through an eigth in a water pipe, meanwhile you can barely finish your third bag (i use a meter long bag) with half a gram in the chamber of the volcano vaporizer. It is a better high without the carbons and other noxious fumes. Plus there is more to go around, including the flavor...at least for the first couple bags

    • 1 year ago
  • cool0ne
  • hunzedog
  • Marty_Faulkenberry
  • FFFFBOMB
  • NiceN
  • galwayman
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      galwayman  
    • Another step to a dictatorship! Given the makeup of the court I am not surprised at this at all! the Patriot Act,and the Homegrown Terrorist Act,already allow law enforcement to enter your home without a warrent, or didn't you know that either?

    • 1 year ago
  • bertkamp
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      bertkamp  
    • I feel I might bias in this situation.

      I don't agree with kicking down doors to building and apartments because of the smell of marijuana. However if its the smell of meth cooking, knock that door down.

    • 1 year ago
  • FoosMaster
  • NiceN
  • FoosMaster
    • +1
      FoosMaster  
    • Just more escalation of the FAILED and increasingly expensive to taxpayers "War On Drugs". I no longer have any confidence in out Supreme Court protecting the Rights of the Citizens.

    • 1 year ago
  • Nephwrack
  • ImConcerned
  • Itsbatman_Durr
  • ImConcerned
  • Itsbatman_Durr
  • Incredulous
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      Incredulous  
    • This is the most schizophrenic issue on the planet. One minute they are talking about legalizing it, and the next minute they are talking about giving imbecile cops the right to kick someone's door in if they think they smell it. It's a plant...a God given, harmless, beneficial to mankind plant. Governments never had the right to make it illegal in the first place, and they need to back off and leave people alone to make their own choices about whether or not they are going to consume a harmless plant. Why can't this oppressive government find something useful to do with their fat ass time while they are being paid by the taxpayers? The taxpayers want it legal. Period.

    • 1 year ago
  • s_peak
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      s_peak  
    • I just read a story on here about how some cops raided a place because they smelled weed, and it turned out to be a skunk.

      Can we stop this insanity, already? The cops can find other ways to make money.

    • 1 year ago
  • Itsbatman_Durr
  • bailey78
  • juicie
  • bailey78
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      bailey78  
    • juicie:

      I will never again live in a town or city just because you have no privacy. I can walk all day and never see another person If I so choose being out here where I am.

    • 1 year ago
  • Itsbatman_Durr
  • bailey78
  • artemis6
  • Itsbatman_Durr
  • mysticalweave
  • Itsbatman_Durr
  • Conniepae
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      Conniepae  
    • mysticalweave:

      Scalia is terrifying as a Supreme Court Justice of the United States of America. He is actively participating in the activities of the Tea Party. I don't think a Supreme Court Justice should be associated with 'any' political party! I don't want a Supreme Court Justice who rules along 'any' party line.

    • 1 year ago
  • juicie
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      juicie  
    • There are too many subjective things for it to be reasonable...I have smelt people smoking marlboros that kinda smell like ganja (only for a second but still)...and the police will think any one taking a shit is trying to flush evidence

    • 1 year ago
  • juicie
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      juicie  
    • use a vaporizer, especially if you live in an apartment building, and use it in the room furthest from the front door.

    • 1 year ago
  • s_peak
  • mybologna
  • simplecj
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      simplecj  
    • mybologna:

      True, but if you use concentrated forms of it (extract), you actually need very little... if it were legal, extracts would be cheap, especially if you could grow your own.

    • 1 year ago
  • Sparky2U
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      Sparky2U  
    • Ever had you trash can taken? I have a neighbor that smokes in his backyard now and then. You can smell it on a calm day. Twice my trash can and the neighbors on the other side, have had our cans disappear. The refuse hauler could not say who took them or why, they just brought us new receptacles’.
      Another friend in law enforcement told me it was probably the SO searching for paraphernalia, stems, seeds all those things that you don't need. Once that can hits the curb it is fair game.
      So if a cop smells incense will that mean they can "suspect weed" and kick down your door?

    • 1 year ago
  • dudefromtherock
  • remanns
    • +7
      remanns  
    • FUCK THAT NOISE . -

      [ Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg asked why the police could not simply roam the hallways of apartment buildings, sniffing for pot, knocking whenever they smelled marijuana, then breaking in if they "hear something suspicious."

      "That would be perfectly fine," Kentucky Assistant Atttorney General Farley replied. ]

      police state, here we come.

    • 1 year ago
  • artemis6
  • bailey78
  • Itsbatman_Durr
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