Environmental Protection Agency pulls coal mine permit

Don't be moronic. Should we continue to shoot ourselves in the foot because we don't want to put bullet makers out of work?

Sounds reasonable doesn't it?
But don't you think reasonable alternatives should be initiated first?
~ Talk about shooting ones self in the foot !

what the fuck are you talkin about?
How is stopping a mountain from being leveled and keeping the surrounding water table from being polluted not eco-friendly?

Call me crazy, but I'd stop shooting myself in the foot at the first opportunity. Haven't we removed enough mountaintops already?

Destroying America to sell cheap coal to China is not reasonable.

The only thing the coal is used for is to burn it to boil water. Getting the coal destroys the earth, the water sheds, and the air.

We can boil water just fine with natural gas. We don't have to destroy the earth, water or air to get it. And to get the same amount of energy, it produces less than 1/2 the CO2 that coal does-----and none of the other pollutants like acid rain(sulphuric acid).

We don't even need to change anything else we are using now----we just take out the coal furnaces and put in gas burners, like on a kitchen stove only larger.

Nothing else needs to change, all we are doing is boiling water.

Coal is a natural resource, that many believe is not relevant to energy needs in todays economy.
If that were so, why is coal being mined?

candlestick makers and film developers lost their jobs too. it happens. time to move on.

I guess you still have a job?

Thats one way to look at it . But why not put a little more stress on the Employer? Why not make the Whole system go greener? If you shut down one job you have to make up for it with another in a Greener field of energy? That would only make sense would it not?

I'm thinking there should be an alternativen in place before the mine was shut down. That or the mine Company should help to re-educate the miners that just lost there Jobs. So they may be put into other fields of work.

You are retarded. The house cannot unilaterally make laws.

Make methane, it is easy, inexpensive and we've been doing it for over 150 years. It can be made from any kind of biomass, including sewage and landfills.

Methane is clean, cheap, mature technology and it can do anything we need it to---it can even power our vehicles.

What is left over after the methane is made----is compost.

Make ethanol. We can make it out of anything----even wood. There is lots of wood in Appalachia. And we can always plant more trees.

Make biodiesel---it can also be made out of wood.

Wind and solar are free to use.

There are a lot of choices that are good for people, and good for the environment, and good for the economy.

The fact is, people have to live in the environment, so does the economy. So, what is good for the environment, is good for people and good for the economy.

we already have more L.P.G. than we could ever burn .

Nothing!! Nothing at all!! but I can ask that they change to help those that made them so Rich in the first place.

@bailey78

I think most of us are interested in the environment because we are interested in people.

I think you are right---we need to think of the people as well as the environment. We need to help people put out of work by the changing economy to get back to work quickly and productively.

I agree with bailey78----we should not be making a choice between environment and jobs.

I have no problem at all with providing economic and career assistance to workers displaced from their jobs due to changes in environmental regulations.

I really don't see what is wrong with training folks to put Solar Cells togeather or to put Wind Turbines Up. Then you will need folks to repair and trouble shoot what The Home Owner screws up. It's Just that Oil is king right on the Bourd with Corn.

All I ask is that those in the coal busisness maybe switch from employing folks to dig coal but go into green energy. Solar and wind. Then retrain their employees i a greener field It's a win Win for both sides.

I totally agree with you bailey78. I think switching to a green energy system is the best thing that the people of Appalachia could do for themselves.

Thing is, they'll have to do it for themselves----coal mine owners aren't going to lift a finger to help them, they never have in the past, and I sure wouldn't count on it in the future.

But, the people of Appalachia are tough, smart, hard working and tenacious. They can take care of themselves. They always have, and they always will. We should help them if they ask for it----but mostly, we should get out of the way and let them take care of their own.

I take it you are from West Virginia, is that right? Am I right, or am I wrong about West Virginians?

I have family all along the Appalachian Trail. . I myself rein from South Texas

Hopefully not have their families fall sick from a massively polluted water supply. ;)

What's better, NOT having one of the shittiest, most dangerous jobs that there is or being stuck with paying for medical bills for your chronically ill family?

Gotta love short term thinkers.

the environment is not responsible for our wasteful consumer economy

Humans most valued characteristic is the capacity to adapt. There was a time when mining did not exist. Just as that type of employment was created, innovation will prove vital now, if people are driven enough. With no Conservatives seeking to cut-off any type of "hand-outs", people will find themselves really driven by both sides.

boohoo sorry you cant eat at the olive garden once a week because of coal mining

they dont work in the mine that doesn't exist yet.

that's true. we'll need people to build and maintain solar and wind farms.

It isn't an "either or" choice, if we use biofuels, someone has to make the biofuels.

If we use wind and solar, someone has to build the wind turbines and solar panels.

I'd rather pay people in West Virginia to make ethanol and biodiesel than send our money overseas to line the pockets of monarchs, dictators and terrorists.

I'd rather pay people to build wind turbines and solar panels than to destroy the earth creating corporate profits for a few.

There are vehicles on the road right now that can run on gasoline, gasoline and ethanol mixtures, pure hydrous ethanol, and/or compressed natural gas(methane).

Mandate that all new vehicles sold in the US have multi-fuel, biofuel capable engines, and let consumers decide what fuel they want to put in their vehicle.

There is nothing complicated or expensive about that plan, and no one is forced to do anything.

Will I get a worthy answer for it?

West Virginians have always been good at making ethanol.

West Virginians have always been good at logging too.

West Virginians have always been good at raising cattle and pigs.