Community | January 17, 2011 | 126 comments

Pothead Jared Loughner was a Bush hating, 9/11 truther

source: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/16/us/16loughner.html?_r=4&adxnnl=1&pagewanted=3&adxnnlx=1295...

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http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/16/us/16loughner.html?_r=4&adxnnl=1&pa...

He belonged to the Arizona Jazz Academy, where the director, Doug Tidaback, found him to be withdrawn, though clearly dedicated. He played for two different ensembles, an 18-piece band and a smaller combo, which meant four hours of rehearsal on weekends and many discussions between the director and the mother about her son’s musical prospects.

But Mr. Tidaback did not recall ever seeing Jared’s father at any of the rehearsals or performances. And one other thing: the music director suspected that the teenager might be using marijuana.

“Being around people who smoke pot, they tend to be a little paranoid,” Mr. Tidaback said. “I got that sense from him. That might have been part of his being withdrawn.”

Mr. Tidaback, it seems, was onto something. Several of Jared’s friends said he used marijuana, mushrooms and, especially, the hallucinogenic herb called Salvia divinorum. When smoked or chewed, the plant can cause brief but intense highs.

None of this necessarily distinguished him from his high school buddies. Several of them dabbled in drugs, played computer games like World of Warcraft and Diablo and went through Goth and alternative phases. Jared and a friend, Zane Gutierrez, would also shoot guns for practice in the desert; Jared, Mr. Gutierrez recalled, became quite proficient at picking off can targets with a gun.

But Jared, a curious teenager who at times could be intellectually intimidating, stood out because of his passionate opinions about government — and his obsession with dreams.

He became intrigued by antigovernment conspiracy theories, including that the Sept. 11 attacks were perpetrated by the government and that the country’s central banking system was enslaving its citizens. His anger would well up at the sight of President George W. Bush, or in discussing what he considered to be the nefarious designs

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/16/us/16loughner.html?_r=4&adxnnl=1&pagew...
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126 comments // Pothead Jared Loughner was a Bush hating, 9/11 truther

  • TheAmericanPatriot
  • DougChristian
  • dudefromtherock
  • CarlosIsDown
  • figgdimension
    • +17
      figgdimension  

    • LMAO...This is soooooooo stupid ...yea his Jazz and pot(NEVER BLAME AMERICAN PHARMA) and dislike of Bush caused his mental breakdown hahahaha thats hilarious I guess thats why he didnt attack bushs supporters or the 9/11 commission American pastry you are so fake and obviously a mole and troll you so FAIL .... but compliments on getting a avatar pic took you like what a year to spell your own name your so silly makes me wanna grab those fat cheeks and squeeze love you patty you really make me smile inside and the warm fuzzy feeling you comments and scrapes give me more you hotcake!!!!

    • 2 years ago
  • floydyboy
    • +7
      floydyboy  

    • Hate to break it to you guys. Real "potheads" don't like salvia. We like doritos & Hawaiian Punch. That shit is scary! I tried it once, that was enough. I don't trust people who like that shit. I've done my fair share of drugs & salvia is the only one that terrified me. I think you've gotta have serious mental issues to like that stuff. The kid's crazy, why blame it anyone, or anything but him. Crazy is as crazy does.

    • 2 years ago
  • TheAmericanPatriot
  • toyotabedzrock
  • TheAmericanPatriot
  • maasanova
    • +2
      maasanova  

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdJO-kUINMs

      The right and the left HATES 9/11 truth activists

      You want to talk about violent hate speech?

      OK here you go...

      Transcript of Reagan’s statements:

      “Excuse me folks, I’m going to say this. We ought to find the people who are doing this, take them out and shoot them. Really. You take them out, they are traitors to this country, and shoot them. You have a problem with that? Deal with it. You shoot them. You call them traitors, that’s what they are, and you shoot them dead. I’ll pay for the bullets.”

      Reagan adds, “How about you take Mark Dice out and put him in the middle of a firing range. Tie him to a post, don’t blindfold him, let it rip and have some fun with Mark Dice.”

      Dice is demanding that Reagan be fired immediately. “Calling for the murder of someone because you disagree with their political stance is absolutely unacceptable, un American, and possibly illegal,” says Dice.

      Dice has filed a report with the FBI and is considering legal action against Reagan.

      Dice’s organization, The Resistance, has launched a campaign to send documentary films and declassified documents to U.S. troops who are stationed in Iraq to inform them that the 9/11 attacks were aided by elements within the U.S. government.

    • 2 years ago
  • figgdimension
  • of10rot10
  • TheAmericanPatriot
  • maasanova
  • maasanova
    • +2
      maasanova  

    • Wow, now they are trying to pin this on the 9/11 truth community?

      A crazed lunatic who kills people is because he thought that the government had something to do with, or staged 9/11?

      You people have no class, really pathetic.

    • 2 years ago
  • TheAmericanPatriot
  • maasanova
  • TheAmericanPatriot
  • maasanova
    • +4
      maasanova  
    • TheAmericanPatriot:

      Only because it perpetuates a falsehood that if you believe anything else besides the official 9/11 government fairy tale then you are going to commit murder.

      Both the left and the right have painted the 9/11 truth community as violent for YEARS.

      Well, what I just posted seems to be just the opposite.

      Mike Reagan has publically called for the murder of 9/11 activists and even offered to pay for the bullets for anyone willing to do so.

      Sounds like a contract to me. What do you make of it?

    • 2 years ago
  • adamvelvetu
    • +3
      adamvelvetu  
    • TheAmericanPatriot:

      cracks me up...because clearly you care what he was into. that's why you posted the article. don't be so passive aggressive. a few blurbs down you're talking about how people on the left must feel stupid for blaming palin. again, i think you miss the mark. most of the conversations have said violent rhetoric in political speech needs to be toned down. and clearly--after palin put out that map, after giffords house was immediately broken into, and then she was shot--logic would initially dictate there was a connection.

    • 2 years ago
  • TheAmericanPatriot
  • figgdimension
    • +5
      figgdimension  
    • TheAmericanPatriot:

      not at all tighty righty Jazz music really!? Cannabis Sativa cause paranoia and violence you got it confused smoke a joint you fool that s all just lies and propaganda(a tired overused and proven lie!) by paper oil and pharma but you know that don't you (mole) love you patty you sad sick f@#$%cker

    • 2 years ago
  • DougChristian
    • +7
      DougChristian  
    • TheAmericanPatriot:

      Why? The conservative movement created the belligerent environment that this happened in. Conservative gun and mental health policy enabled it. Whatever else he believed in his lifetime, his final grievances were right wing in nature.

      I know you have no capacity for self-reflection, so I do not expect you to reevaluate either your ridiculous opinions or behavior, but I do expect you to be able to recognize your own emotional deficiencies and stop trying to guess how normal people are feeling.

    • 2 years ago
  • n537
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      n537  
    • TheAmericanPatriot:

      What are you even saying? I hear maasanova say something intelligent and than you drone on like a parrot. Read the article do some research and than come back and give a well thought out rebuttal, you sound like a moron.

    • 2 years ago
  • TheAmericanPatriot
  • maasanova
    • +3
      maasanova  
    • TheAmericanPatriot:

      The article, and you by extention are attempting to make negative association. This is an attempt to chill free speech by painting anyone who doesn't believe, or trust, or speaks out against the government, being left wing, or right wing to be crazy and violent.

    • 2 years ago
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