Brutal Drug Raid Killing Caught on Video

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"Is it not a ridiculous paradox to have laws to protect us from relatively harmless substances and not from the devastating effects of other substances that happen to be legal? It is well known that tobacco causes nearly a million deaths annually (in the US alone) from cancer, cardiovascular disease and emphysema; more than 350,000 die from alcohol-related cirrhosis and its complications and caffeine is the cause of cardiac and nervous system disturbances. These facts suggest that the public is being fraudulently misled into fearing the wrong substances and into complacency about hazardous substances by allowing their sale and even subsidization. " - Benson B. Roe, former Chair of Cardiothorasic Surgery at the Univeristy of San Fransico.

"but the painful truth is that this young man that lost his life because put himself in a position to get killed"

Wrong, this young man lost his life because he put himself in a position to go to PRISON.

a person has a drug problem so they deserve to die

Should I be executed because I speed in areas whose limits are absurd, should they me hang for J walking? these things are illegal too, but they aren't hurting anyone just like these guys. There is such thing as due process of law so pigs like that can't just act however they please

Those things actually are dangerous to people other than yourself.

My friend was smoking a blunt while he jay walked in Germany, and a police officer scolded him for jay walking and didn't say anything about the blunt. That beat cop has the right priorities.

first off that is an awesome story
Secondly i don't speed or jay walk in high traffic areas, they are just dumb "suggestion" laws, as I call them. They keep social order but really can't be taken too seriously

Expect no sympathy when Police mistakenly break down your door with false information about your activity's, or just get the wrong house entirly; (low and behold it was your nieghbore the Pastor with a gram of weed they were after, hes got MS after all.)
Expect no sympathy when those police shoot your dogs, shoot your son, scream at your wife and daughters and haul you to jail for nothing. Cause hey, drugs are illegal. We gotta do everything in our power to save people from themselves.

I just got the book Traffic: Why We Drive the Way We Do (and What It Says About Us) by Tom Vanderbilt.

They act like legalizations and/or decrim will lead to less social order, but there will be much greater respect for one another, and less crime if we make the drastic changes needed to overturn drug prohibition. There is nothing stopping people from driving high now, we have so little to lose and every thing to gain by changing the system toward more personal freedom.

In the video, they did announce themselves. But because they do it in the dead of night, you are not totally conscious and only hear your door busting down.

They should not be doing these raids at night.

That lady in England that got raided over gerbils got raided during the day, and got an apology afterward. Why can't our cops protect and serve, or at least be polite when the screw up?

Voted up for good use of irony. :)

I love how the kids freak out when he picks up the rifle after he shot himself in the foot

Fuck. That is some messed up teaching. I can't believe he brought a loaded gun into the class. Let this be a lesson.................. Stay way the fuck away from the police................... All the time.

Yeah. This jerk obviously forgot about the one left in the chamber. Those kids went nuts when he tried to brave it out while picking up that rifle with a bullet already in his foot. You can hear them yelling, "put it down", "put it down".

I rolled over laughing.

It made me sick in my stomach watching him limp. Loved the kids!!

The first thing you do when you pick up a gun is to check and see if a round is chambered. Be damn sure or else be damned.

They were ready to shoot, and didn't take the time to process that it was only a golf club, and that it would probably do no harm to them with their body armor.

Russ, I agree with that statement. The technique for militant raiding of private home can be argued that it would come from the military handbooks.

JJ

I'm writing a paper on that, decriminalizing drugs and spending "enforcement" money on rehab and education.

not only that, but they only have a handful of overdose deaths because help is immediately available if something goes wrong. Hep C and AIDS transmission is greatly restricted as well.

Thanks, I'll be sure to check it out. I know Canada has "shoot up clinics" too and Portugal decriminalized all drugs for personal use.

Sneaky spam? WTF

Thank you. :)

what about if you aren't terminal, but it helps with male enhancement, and restless leg syndrome? The legal drugs they have for those conditions have serious side effects, and ganja works just as good or better, with minimal side effects. It has medical benefits for generally healthy people too. People cry foul that people feign illness in California, but it is legal for any medical benefit no matter how small. Pretty much every one has trouble falling asleep every once in a while. Why deny them the benefit just because they are otherwise generally healthy?

the only thing they blew up was the severity of the crime if any... ":a small vial of what APPEARED to be meth was in the dead man's pants pocket." what bs... i agree with 'making it illegal for police to kill our friends and family over small bags of contraband."

very true. you would think they would know better

NJ is a model in many ways these days to include education... as a result of their new Governor Chris Christie. great man in his own time

i don't get the feeling that anyone is defending a meth dealer but there has to be a better way other than going in gun's a blazing

It ain't like this creep was helping some old lady cross the street or was coming out of the library after studying for a test. If a jury decides that this cop is guilty of manslaughter or 2nd degree homicide, I'll cheer with the rest of you, but please do not try to ignore the facts. What other kind of ending can you expect in your life if you've made a conscious decision to deal crystal meth to other human beings ? Unless they quit dealing, drug dealers very rarely have happy endings in their miserable lives.

Ain't nobody innocent in this story. We need to look at and talk about the wrongs that both sides played in this senseless tragedy. This is a sad story, but do you really think that his survivors will collect a dime in a civil suit if in fact he was dealing crystal meth out of that apartment ? There are no victims in this horrible tragedy.

Be mindful about how you phrase things,,,one mans Drug Dealer is another mans Bond Trader, por ejemplo...

"[Mortgage Backed Securities] is about the worst [Financial Instrument] out there. It's highly [Volatile] and damn near impossible to [track]. I hate like hell watching an [SEC officer allow any Company get away an take a bribe] so freely like he's on a turkey shoot, but damn, what other kind of ending can you expect in your life if you're making a living dealing [shit on paper] to other people today. [Bankers] are lower than thieves are in my book. They're the real cowards. They don't care who [goes Bankrupt] or who [Loses money]. All that want is your money[NOW!]."

Drugs, money, guns and butter. It is all the same. Imagine for a minute that this raid has been occurring in the millions for the last three years, tearing up families, destroying childhoods more than the Drug war ever hoped to. No the Housing and Financial Fraud that has occurred does not net the carnage the Drug war has reaped, but then again I ask you to look up the suicide stats for the last four years and tell me that it is a pretty picture.

Better yet calculate the blood that the Military Industrial-Congressional complex has reaped in the Last 60 years! Millions upon millions of lives, many that were in fact innocent only for the hope that the next hysteria will get their purchase orders filled an their stocks will go up a three quarters of a point during the quarter at hand.

No, I think those like you who have this hate need to take a good look in the mirror and think about why this person is doing drugs [ Despiration, idiocy], and why the person deals [Poverty, despiration] when entire demographics are cut out of the ability to make a decent living in the honest economy they are going to do what they can to pay the bills or get their share. Poverty is at the root of drugs anyway you slice it. Cannabis to Meth. Legalize Cannabis and Hemp, and you have your self to a start of a green economy. Make drugs a mental health issue and you can put the DEA to rest- but the status quo does not want that. The status quo needs drugs to get their money too. they are as much addicted to Drug Money and Federal Money to get Drug money in the end they look as wack as the meth heads they are busting,

The CIA was behind the Crack epidemic and they are behind the Meth. Follow the money and you will find your smoking guns.

End Poverty and then the Drug war will end. then and only then, as for the MICC- well you need a Congress with spine for that.

Before you blame a dealer- Blame the Bastards who created the system to begin with Mac.

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Poverty is at the root of drugs anyway you slice it.
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I don't think so. Not for drug dealers. Greed and selfishness are at the root of drug dealing. Please don't try to confuse the motives of drug dealing with drug addiction. I'm not playing the blame game with either side. I got clean 17 years ago.

I'm still in my home, but I've been fighting a wrongful foreclosure for the past 2 years. It's the worst imaginable feeling everyday. There's nothing that you can tell me about the banks, the lenders, their servicers ,mortgage backed securities or credit default swaps. and their dirty lying ass attorneys. I've been in State Court, Superior Court, Magistrate Court, District Court, and the Court of Appeals since 2008. The only reason that I'm up right now is because I can't sleep.

You're really preaching to the choir now.

no evidence he was anything of the sort... the cops made a big mistake on this one.

Keep up the fight for you home man. Yes it is selfishness, and so is what Goldman Sachs and Moody's did too. You are just as much their vicitim as my aunts were to coca in thie eighties. Addiction comes in all substance flavors and paradigms. The system made apparent by the status quo has been laundering drug money for years. You think Wall Street is going to pass up billions in profits. the cartels are not going to get their hands on planes and boats on the quick. I do not know if you are aware of the connection between the crack epidemic and the Contras via the CIA. the street corner dealer is not the scum of the earth- though they are petty bastards. It is those who finance the Kingpins who are to be the major abettors. There is no international law strong enough to go after the Mexican Cartels accountants. or that of the smugglers from Colombia and Afghanistan. Hell, Hamid Karzais Brother is the Father of the Poppies and we are financing the asswipes and their government. Heroin has never been more pure. And yet we look the other way, as Hamid stuffed the Ballots. Saffron by far is more lucrative---and even in the middle east it is prized as the best/ You dont see the American Govt. trying to help start the mass cultivation of the product. It would lift the Afghanis out of poverty.

until everyone sees that it is in the governments best interest for us citizens to be controlled by fear, we will never be free. and the killing will continue unabated.

You don't know if he was a meth dealer. It was not proven in a court of law. Suspicion is enough to get you killed.
Most local drug enforcement agencies are not supported by local taxes but by the seisures and federal grants. They will not go after the leaders because if they did, they would be out of a job. They go after easy targets with the most valuable properties to seize. As long as they keep busting people they have a job. So, if you have a couple of joints and they like your car you better watch out.
The war on drugs is self perptuating. Too much money is made in the name of "protecting the children". The lawyers get paid, the cops get paid, the weapons manufacturers get paid, the private prison corporations and their stock holders get paid, the politicians who support the system get paid. Do you think they have any intention of winning the war on drugs? Hell no, too much money being made.
Who pays in the end? hundreds of thousands of children are dumped into foster care, people with non-violent offenses spend lifetimes in jail while murderers and rapists go free, more tax money is spent in jails that in our education system. The US puts more citizens in jail per capita than any other nation in the world. WHo goes to jail? Mostly the poor and minorities. The best way to combat a progressive takeover of the government is to keep the poor from voting. The best way to take away voting rights is to imprison.
The war on drugs is a farce and you drank the kool-aid.

I've been helping addicts get clean for over 12 years now in jails, hospital and institutions, shelters, soup lines and 12 step meetings. I've lost an army of friends to this wicked disease by way of overdose, police killings, and bad drug deals. Don't preach to me. Sounds like you've been watching a lot of TV.

BOLOGNA sounds about right. You really don't know who you're talking to or what in the fuck you're talking about.

Its the killing that is so offensive. Drug ADDICTION is a mental health issue not a criminal issue. No matter what anyone says, drugs have been used by most of society weather legal or not. The ones that are illegal create a black market which corrupts up to the highest levels of power; including the police. Speed is a killer but it is also a favorite of students, over stressed mothers/wives, truck drivers, deck hands, taxi drivers, and a shit heap more jobs that just plain suck. The military uses its own brand when needed. It is everywhere.

If you truly want to stop drug use then the quality of life needs to improve for everyone. People need to matter more than money. This problem will continue as long as WE pass by saying "It is not MY problem". I hope the man who the police killed is not someones son or brother or dad or friend.

If you are helping people out of drugs, good for you. I'm not advocating for non treatment, I'm advocating for humane treatment and compasion. If you think storing humans in cages is the right humane thing, let's continue the war on drugs as it is.
Drug adiction is a health problem and should be treated as such. If you don't open your mind to the reality of the issue, we will continue in the same cycle. If you think I don't know what I'm talking about, which of my statements wasn't true?

I think it is the policy of prohibition that got us here. Yes the guy who got shot put himself in that situation, but it doesn't have to be like that... we need to change the system. Look at Portugal, they figured out that the criminalization of drugs made people less likely to seek treatment because in seeking help, they also have to admit to being criminals. They have had great success in full decriminalization.

Also, in addition to helping addicts, there would be much less corruption in government and in the police forces.

Look its not about being a "cop hater" its about doing the right thing. Yes there are plenty of ppl that are out to get over on the system but it works both ways. A lot of cops not all, get on their power trips especially when it comes to busting ppls doors down in the middle of the night, I know this personally because I come from a family of cops and military. You cant honestly tell me you would've felt threatened by a guy wielding a golf club when you're all flacked up in full raid gear and a GUN in your hand. I know what its like to shoot bcuz of adrenaline and that wasnt it. Those were three very precise controlled shots meant to put his ass out, over what? what could he have possibly be selling if he comes out to protect himself with a golf club. The guy was a nickel and dimer at most because anyone selling anything substantial is packing serious heat, you dont need a criminology degree to know that.

Apparently he was a user and his roommate was the dealer. But they decided to go "Top Gun" acting like bad asses and do a "no knock" search warrant which is beyond fucking retarded.

If there's bullshit going down around my house and I can't handle it, I'll call the police because their job is to protect and serve not act like mavericks.

in the community i live in if i really need the assistance of law enforcement im lucky if they show up in under an hour or two unless i call 911 and say a cop was shot. 5 years ago one of my friends neighbors was shot and killed right out front his house and it took the police 40 min to get there. also many of them are currupt and deal out unnessecary beatings to people for simply dressing the wrong way or being the wrong color. the cops aren t your friends, they could care less about your personal safety. they want a paycheck and the perks that come along with carrying that badge. shooting and killing low level drug dealers and users is not protecting and serving your community, its killing humans. police frequently get the wrong adress when serving warrants and meet regular law abiding citizens with the same force this unfortunate man was victim of. if you have two drug houses on your block then you should think twice before picking up a weapon if your door is ever broken down in the night because you could just as easily meet the same fate as this man for just being surprised and trying to protect your family.

absolutely, this man was most likely an addict himself. a small time peddler trying to support his own habbit. not deserving of death, only treatment.

http://www.cato.org/raidmap/

I would be worried if I were you. They have been known to get the wrong address from time to time.These pigs are addicted to adrenaline, and don't plan ahead too much because it fuels their adrenaline rush. In this case they forgot the warrant, and are lucky to have gotten the right house.

Check out the link and see how often innocents are killed in these raids. There are 100-150 done every day in this country.

Un-friggen believable... The guy was walking peacefully, and not brandishing the knife in a threatening manner at anyone and w/ his back towards the cop and the cop just had to shoot him. What an idiot!

Sad. The police had many opportunities to try and help him.

it's a sad world we live in

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Right on the money! I can only think of that poor elderly woman in Atlanta that got shot dead cause she was living in house the cops went to by mistake!

Those dirty cops when to prison. The woman was 80 years old. The screwed up and hit the wrong house, and then tried to cover it up by planting drugs on her, throwing a stolen pistol down on the floor next to her and then went as far as staging a fake shoot out, leaving one of them with a flesh wound in the arm.

Dirty, dirty, dirty......

Sometimes our cops are just plain wrong, and if you don't have a tape like in the Rodney King affair nothing happens to them! This one, has a tape but because he was holding a golf club it's OK? You got to be kidding me!

My man Bailey.
You know what the real deal is.
I know you do.
Give it to them straight.

wow, no shit. its amazing the extent some cops will go to hide thier mistakes. straight out of training day with that one.