Dungeons & Dragons: A Threat to Prison Security

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The seventh circuit of the United States Court of Appeals has just published a ruling on a case heard last September. Let us peruse the opening line and consider whether this may be the greatest legal ruling in history:
After concluding that the popular role-playing game Dungeons and Dragons (“D&D”) represented a threat to prison security, officials at Wisconsin’s Waupun Correctional Institution took action to eradicate D&D within the prison’s wall.
Yes, you read that right. This is a ruling on whether or not prison officials were justified in confiscating D&D material. It wasn’t a case of officials being concerned that multi-faceted dice could be fashioned into weapons (only “twenty-one books, fourteen magazines” and handwritten notes were confiscated), but an even more serious matter:
Waupun’s long-serving Disruptive Group Coordinator, Captain Bruce Muraski, received an anonymous letter from an inmate. The letter expressed concern that Singer and three other inmates were forming a D&D gang and were trying to recruit others to join by passing around their D&D publications and touting the “rush” they got from playing the game.
The prisoner concerned, Kevin Singer, complained the confiscation was a violation of first amendment rights. He then, in the words of the court, sought “a panoply of relief”, which sadly turned out not to be a D&D spell.
Singer maintains that rather than D&D playing encouraging gang activity, it actually deters prisoners from joining gangs.
After losing the case, Singer took it to appeal. There, an expert on prison gangs argued not only that having a Dungeon Master issue direction to other players “mimics the organization of a gang”, but that the game encourages players to become obsessed with mentally escaping the restrictions of prison life, which could threaten “the safety and security of the institution.”
Although Singer produced witness testimony from 11 other inmates who said they had never heard of D&D leading to gang-related activity, the judges at the appeal ruled this was irrelevant: all that mattered was that it was reasonable for the prison officials to believe it might do so in the future.
And what is the evidence for this argument? Well, in a 2009 case, a prison gang leader “established and enforced rules.” You know, just like in D&D. And hell, there’s even a risk of “D&D players looking to Dungeon Masters, rather than to the prison’s own carefully constructed hierarchy of authority, for guidance and dispute resolution.”
In any case, the judges noted, the prison wasn’t banning all books or games. After all, in a 2005 case when some games were banned, ” strategy games like Risk, Stratego, chess, and checkers remained available to prisoners.”
In conclusion, the judges pointed out that Singer had failed in his duty to prove conclusively that D&D could not lead to gang activity. (Which may be because even the most creative role-player can’t prove a future negative.)
The court therefore rejected the appeal.
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Divide_Conquer
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Wtf indeed , take away there freedom and also take away there fantasy freedom too what next ?
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Divide_Conquer
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remanns
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Divide_Conquer:
water-boarding,....and suchlike,.....I would guess,....if MANY were to have their way.
( "NOT"-torture, of course. ....but this IS "Punishment",...isn't it ? )
p.s. I would love an "in you face" direct poll of the American public,....just to see the percentage that even WANT "rehabilitation",.....v.s. the "punishment" crowd.
My bet,.....the "punishers" stand to win every election.
- 1 year ago
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remanns
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CCorsair
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Vin Diesel would be very mad at this ..lol The curse of the 70's and 80's come again...gaming is harmless..Please
CC
- 1 year ago
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CCorsair
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bailey78
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and all this time I thought it was just a threat to young boys getting laid
- 1 year ago
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bailey78
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Nephwrack
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what complete and utter bullshit. fuck the system.
- 1 year ago
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Nephwrack
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remanns
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Nephwrack:
ditto
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remanns
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nearandforever
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how to rout a "dungeons and dragons" gang attack:
throw dice at them.
not much of a threat, unless you're out of dice. - 1 year ago
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remanns
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nearandforever:
just slowly pick up the pizza and beer,....walk it to another room. ( after they have followed, leave the room and close the door behind. )
+^d
- 1 year ago
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remanns
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remanns
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I appreciate very much that this was made " c u r r e n t ". Thanx.
- 1 year ago
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remanns
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remanns
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Sometimes I think I just don't really much appreciate the wisdom and benevolence of society,.....but perhaps I am just growing old and moody.
( I think I am going to go bury a "survival emergency stash" of dice and pencils somewhere outside now .)
grrrrrrrrrr . . .
- 1 year ago
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remanns
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lifestudentno83
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Didn't we already go through this in 1970, and confirmed that D&D is harmless?
Shouldn't we be trying to encourage for them to rehabilitate instead of becoming career criminals? - 4 years ago
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GISchmo
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So what do you have to roll on a 20 sided die to escape? Sounds like they were just having harmless fun to me, but it'd make for an awesome story if figuring out an escape through D&D actually worked.
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GISchmo
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Saladin
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What pisses me off more than the ban is the notion that there are human beings in this country that are so fucking stupid that they would construe a board game as a safety threat.
Seriously, this is ruling is a bigger threat to safety. Because this makes Hulk want smash. >:(
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Saladin
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Itsbatman_Durr
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actually in the state of nj a similar case was made, and it was due to the maps, which could be considered an escape utensil. dice are pretty much a no no because they are gambling mechanisms
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Itsbatman_Durr
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Nephwrack
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Itsbatman_Durr:
yeah just like pinball is a gambling mechanism.
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Nephwrack
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Incredulous
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Itsbatman_Durr:
Do you realize what most prisoners do all day? They play cards. No threat of gambling mechanism there...
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Incredulous
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booley
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"....what is the evidence for this argument? Well, in a 2009 case, a prison gang leader “established and enforced rules.” You know, just like in D&D. "
Wait, don't prison officials and courts also "establish and enforce rules"?!
Clearly the court needs to abolish prisons and the court system lest they someday lead to gang activity!
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booley
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Incredulous
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booley:
brilliant!
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Incredulous
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remanns
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ThatCrazyLibertarian:
this IS, indeed, actually the crux of it ; there is NO DOUBT in my mind -
[ Sorry, obviously, this is where my bleeding heart gets the best of me. Because what this is all about is punishment. It’s not about rehabilitation, it’s not about security, it’s about old-school vengeance carried out by state actors. He killed somebody, and we as a society found something else he liked that we can take away. So we’re going to take it away. It’s Christopher Lloyd playing a Klingon in Star Trek 3 telling Kirk he won’t beam up Spock “because you wish it.” ]
[ I guess that is our right. I guess there is no compelling interest in making the life imprisonment of a murderer a little less horrible. But vengeance, even when legal, is still ugly. The Seventh Circuit just made a Lawful Evil decision here. ]
yepper.
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remanns
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Nephwrack
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ThatCrazyLibertarian:
awesome dice.
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remanns
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ThatCrazyLibertarian:
A very very very small introverted case of "thought crime" being punished.
It does rather smack right into freedom of speech issues however,...I would think.
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remanns
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remanns: This comment was removed by its owner.
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remanns
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ThatCrazyLibertarian:
true . share anything else on this you find of interest ! +^d !
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remanns
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bundlebear
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the last gang i would be afraid is the one playing D&D
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bundlebear
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remanns
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bundlebear:
That would sort of be my off the cuff reaction. +^d
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remanns