Ancient Arabian Artifacts May Rewrite 'Out of Africa' Story
source: http://www.livescience.com/history/ancient-arabian-artifacts-rewriting-history-110127.html
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Anatomically modern humans first arose about 200,000 years ago in Africa. When and how our lineage then dispersed out of Africa has long proven controversial, but past evidence had suggested an exodus along the Mediterranean Sea or Arabian coast some 60,000 years ago.
Now, an ancient toolkit of stone hand axes, scrapers and perforators discovered by an international team of researchers at a site in the United Arab Emirates suggests modern humans arrived in eastern Arabia as early as 125,000 years ago.
"Our findings should stimulate a re-evaluation of the means by which we modern humans became a global species," said researcher Simon Armitage at the University of London.
Instead of exiting Africa by traveling farther north over the Sinai Peninsula, "our findings open a second way, which in my opinion is more plausible for massive movements than the northern route," Uerpmann said. Ultimately, early humans could then have wandered into the Fertile Crescent and India and into the rest of Europe and Asia."
http://www.livescience.com/history/ancient-arabian-artifacts-rewriting-history-1...
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it is a shame that we may never really know our roots. humans tend to live by water and that puts most of the bones of our ancestors in deep water. all coastal cities at the end of the last ice age are gone, lost to the ocean deep. we can only imagine a city on the nile, hundreds of miles down stream from alexandria at the edge of an inland sea, a place that would put the egypt we know to shame. a place under 1,000 feet of water.
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royulery:
They lived by rivers, lakes and ponds too, not only by the sea side.
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Vierotchka:
true. my point is that the largest cities are sea ports. i read in a naval officers text that 60% of populations are on the coast.
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I must interject that Louis Leakey Sr -- "Father of Paleoanthropology" -- was convinced that fully modern man existed for 500,000 years in America based on his digs at Calico Hills, California, funded by National Geographic in the late 1960s.
Many respected archeologists privately agree. - 1 year ago
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alexandrek:
All humans came from Africa, but there were a number of different "waves" of immigration from Africa elsewhere, going in different directions each wave.
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alexandrek:
Yep- I'm familiar with that; but all humans came from Africa. It is just as what point in the evolutionary timeline the waves left Africa; some left very early, and were hominids who either are not our ancestors, or later interbred with our ancestors.
It's not like any hominid primates evolved independently in Asia or anywhere else, the way marsupials evolved in Australia independently from placentals everywhere else.
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UtopianSky:
would you consider the Denisovans and Neanderthals to be groups from one of the earlier waves?
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UtopianSky:
Who would vote that down?
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kangarooman:
It's not about me considering anything- they simply were.
They did not magically appear in Europe out of no where, nor were they parallel evolution from non-hominid primates.
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UtopianSky:
Utopian sky, i speak in these indefinite terms because when it comes to the study of human evolution very little can be ascertained. The conclusions drawn from these archaeological finds are largely speculation.
no need to be a dick.
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kangarooman:
It's a good thing there is no need to be a dick- because I was not being one.
You, however, are another story. - 1 year ago
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alexandrek:
No, just some family medical issues, and then the new semester started.
My posting frequency will be much lower than it was before. - 1 year ago
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alexandrek:
You know what's weird. Is the fact that you kind of instinctively know that in 30,000 years, humans will look the same as they do today. Because 30,000 years ago, we looked as we did back then. Not much has changed.
Then there is the odd fact that Homo Sapien just came out of nowhere. Literally.
Currently, there's no real link that anyone has found.
Even if they did, we're talking about the earliest forms of Homo Sapiens...there should be a lot of them. It really shouldn't be hard to find. - 1 year ago
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mitekillem:
I believe you're making an assumption that because humans
were around 30,000 years ago, they'll still exist 30,000 years from now.
Time will tell, of course. If you have access to the History channel, tune
in sometime to a discussion by several world experts in their fields:
Prophets of Doom. Not that anyone living now need be prejudiced by
the title. I never judge a book by its cover. But they bring up some 6
compelling reasons why humans may be not be around by 2100,
anywhere in this universe. 5 Billion more people came into being
within the past 100 years due to petrochemical fertilizers derived from
oil & natural gas. For sure those 5 Billion won't be around any which
way you look at it when oil runs out or it's too difficult to get to. As for
the other 2 Billion, it may be super intelligent A.I.s thinking at the speed
of light and no longer content to be the servants of organicly based
life forms as humans who might, like Skynet, simply nuke us and have
a Terminator clean up the mess. Life has immitated Cinema art before. - 1 year ago
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alexandrek:
Alexandrek, do you think that net is Dolphin safe ? I sure
wouldn't want to open a can of tuna, and find Flipper there.
But then I hear it's mostly Europeans who like the (soybean)
oil packed tuna in a can. So much for my gallows humor for
Monday, Jan.31, 2011. - 1 year ago
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Just how deep the well is, depends on how black the water was....
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the mediterranean rift valley was the best bottom land anywhere and there was a million sq.miles of it. everyday little bits surface from the vast civilizations that were nearly erased at the end of the last ice age. we won't find any city intact, the flood was just too powerful, it tore house sized boulders of gypsum from the great salt lake at the valleys bottom and cast them about. the point is, any early settlement outside the rift valley was an outpost.
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I think that missing link is somewhere beneath the Mediterranean right now.
Seriously, most the Mediterranean was a vast open valley, until relatively recently, a great flood, maybe the one referenced in the bible created the Mediterranean sea about a few thousand years old.
Atlantis could possibly have been a city that was taken by the flood as well, it just down there, somewhere - 1 year ago
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controlusplease:
There's no "missing link", that's not how evolution with humans worked.
The idea that chimps are an "ealier version" of us is a misconception.
Modern apes and humans have many comon ancestors. - 1 year ago
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ozoneocean:
Humans are primates, simians, hominoids and apes, we are an integral part of the great apes group that consists of chimpanzees, orangutans, gorillas and humans.
Under the current classification system there are two families of hominoids:
* the family Hylobatidae consists of 4 genera and 14 species of gibbon, including the Lar Gibbon and the Siamang, collectively known as the lesser apes.
* the family Hominidae consisting of chimpanzees, gorillas, humans and orangutans collectively known as the great apes. - 1 year ago
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there is a missing link between cro magnon men and homo sapien men, and how they spread out from africa into europe and asia
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ThatCrazyLibertarian:
Since Neanderthals actually intebred with Homo Sapiens, they were not all that much of a separate species altogether - they were closer to Homo Sapiens than are donkeys to horses, for example, since their offspring were not sterile. Here's an interesting article from last year:
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2010/05/100506-science-neanderthals-huma...
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not to be racist or anything, but, have you ever noticed that eastern european people have somewhat...neanderthal looking aspects to them?
its suspected that neanderthals never died out, and the people of eastern europe are actually direct descendants of co-magnon, homo sapiens, and neanderthal - 1 year ago
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controlusplease:
What absolute nonsense! Eastern Europeans don't have Neanderthal-looking aspects to them. Some people do, but all over Europe, Australia (whites) and the USA (whites).
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controlusplease:
Varvara, a typical Russian woman. Not exactly Neanderthal...
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Vierotchka:
you people blow things way out of proportion
im half german, and spent a year in warsaw, i know what the people look like, and yes, some do have neanderthal "traits"
its no use arguing with you people, your too dense - 1 year ago
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controlusplease:
I live in Europe, have traveled extensively all over Europe, and there are people with Neanderthal "traits" everywhere - and not more in Eastern Europe than in the rest of Europe. As for density, you lead us all.
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apparently awakened,...an AcroWar addiction !
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Delia, good to see you back again. Great article. If you have access
to cable/satellite channel TV, check out the History channel series
on Ancient Aliens. In one of their Documentaries, one scientist made
an observation he discovered from pin pointing all the locations on
the earth where UFOs have been sighted over thousands of years.
He found out he those locations corresponded to precise latitudes
and longitudes he could line horizontaly, and verticly. He also found
that in the center of the mid point intersection of x and y axis is where
the Eqyptian pyramids are located. They themselves are positioned
so that they allign with certain stars precisely. Other of the History
channel Documentaries feature how E.T. aliens interacted with N.African
Arab populations dating back to at least 12,000 B.C. And that one
Pharoh and his wife were human/alien hybrids. They made statues to
them. You could see the radicaly different shapes of their craniums/jaws.Their theme is that aliens have been mixing their DNA with our human
ancestors for an incredibly long time in Africa. And that it's E.T. aliens
who provided the missing link in the evolution of primitive hominids to
modern Cro Magnon humans. One Nat Geo channel Documentary
demonstrated how the entire human race is decended from one specific
tribe in Africa whose features are common to all humans. And that it
was a bottleneck in the progeneration of humans 60,000 years ago
due to some natural upheaval which made one man the Adam for a
lot of Eve's who produced this tribe. 100,000 years isn't surprising
within the context of all that I've been witnessing History & Nat Geo
channel Documentaries reveal about this..They've uncovered solid Gold artifacts shaped as airplanes that date
back many thousands of years. They've shown it's impossible for even
modern humans' inventions to build the pyramids, and therorized that
the ancient aliens interacting with Arab Eqyptian royalty used some kind
of maglev or E.M. tech to position the huge granite blocks weighing as
much as 100 tons. That pyramids were factories for their manufacturing
hydrogen to use for power generation. And that they used crystals in
obelisks as Tesla coils to beam high voltage electrical energy long
distances. Even the coils Nicola Tesla invented 100 years ago were
only able to transmit electricity 2 miles away. I watched yet another
of the History channel Documentaries oh his inventions which was
titled Mad Science. He was a genius like Einstein & Edison rolled
into one person. And even he could only approximate what existed
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I'm wondering if the earlier date would correspond better with the Australian Aborigines trek out of Africa though? Cus they had a pretty early head-start.
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EmperorThan:
The Aussie aboriginees still do their walkabout treks along certain lines
which conform to the lattitudes upon which the E.T. UFO sightings have
been recorded to have been seen. - 1 year ago
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this is very cool, we are getting closer to connecting all the pieces and maybe one day figuring out how we have people of different looks (asian,black,white, and etc.)
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But one must be careful with any date over 4000 years, you may have a lawsuit against you
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A study detailed in Decembers issue of the journal Current Anthropology has broad implications for aspects of human history. The possibilities that a lost civilization may have existed beneath the Persian Gulf. Veiled beneath the waters of the Persian Gulf, a once-fertile landmass may have supported some of the earliest human settlements outside of Africa 75,000 to 100,000 years ago. At its pinnacle, this landmass which is now below the Gulf would have been about the size of the British Isle and then as the Persian Gulf expanded the land mass began to shrink. Then around 8,000 years ago the land would have been swallowed up by the Indian Ocean. Chief researcher of the study Jeffery Rose a archaeologist at the University of Birmingham in the U.K. states that scientist have debated over when early modern humans migrated from Africa with dates as early as 125,000 to as recently as 60,000 years ago
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ThatCrazyLibertarian:
also makes me wonder what artifacts are buried beneath our sea.
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ThatCrazyLibertarian:
Over 200 hundred ancient cities have recently been discovered in just the Mediterranean sea. Throughout the world new discovery's of cities beneath the sea, suggest the sea level was considerably less than nowadays! Perhaps as much as 1,000 feet.
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ThatCrazyLibertarian:
That's one reason why I am so addicted to the Ancient Alien (History channel) series, they are constantly showing these newly discovered sites! And they pretty much leave it up to the viewer too decide why these sites are being ignored and archeology is trying to catch up. The discovery's are coming hot and fast.
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kennymotown:
Precisely why I intend to buy flood insurance. Heh.
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kennymotown:
Pancakes are up ! Who had the buttermilk pancakes with molasses syrup ?
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PressCore:
Yes indeed!
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alexandrek:
If he is cooking enough, I'm sure he wouldn't mind!
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kennymotown:
Sure. Like the song says: Everybody eats when they come to my house.
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PressCore:
Yes, my family s big on feeding people as well! What times dinner?
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kennymotown:
i saw this one site was one of the oldest sites in the world found in Turkey similiar to Stonehenge with animals all over it not from the region of the desert, and Tijunanaco en Peru, which was 17000 years old
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gemenilaidback:
Yes, it's all fascinating stuff and our species has been almost killed off several times!
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kennymotown:
Kenny, for those who everlastingly hunger & thirst for
knowledge here on the theatre of the mind, dinner is
whenever you read food for thought. I can just see
cookie ringing the ranch triangle and yelling " get it
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PressCore:
Brilliantly said! It's dinner time!
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