Community | February 02, 2011 | 21 comments

Clashes erupting between pro and con Mubarak supporters in Cairo

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JanforGore
After Mubarak's address last night it is estimated that approximately 70,000 pro Mubarak supporters took to the streets in Tahrir Square. I have been watching it on Euronews in real time and it is getting ugly. Gunfire can be heard ( the Army has denied firing on the crowd) and protesters are being injured by people throwing anything they can get their hands on. It is believed Mubarak may have police in the pro crowd though it has been denied by their Interior Ministry. It is also said the pro Mubarak protesters appear to be well organized. It makes me wonder just what governments in that region who see his staying as positive for them have now clandestinely lent their hands to these protests.
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21 comments // Clashes erupting between pro and con Mubarak supporters in Cairo

  • ras_menelik
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      ras_menelik  
    • CAIRO — Many journalists covering the protests in Egypt were detained and attacked on Thursday, and human rights groups were also a target, in what appeared to be an escalating effort to block reports on the violence.

      The Egyptian security forces were rounding up workers for human rights groups as well as foreign journalists, witnesses in Cairo said. Security police raided the Hisham Mubarak Law Center, where many nongovernmental organizations operate. They ordered people there to lie on the floor and disabled their mobile phones. Two people were being interrogated. The state news agency Thursday has asked foreign press to evacuate all the hotels near Tahrir Square.

      The Committee to Protect Journalists was investigating at least 10 cases of reporters being detained on Thursday. The government told the journalists that they were not being arrested but rather taken into “protective custody,” according to the group.

      The United States protested the actions against reporters.

      “There is a concerted campaign to intimidate international journalists in Cairo and interfere with their reporting,” Philip J. Crowley, assistant secretary of state for public affairs, said Thursday morning in a statement via Twitter. “We condemn such actions."

      The attacks on journalists started almost as soon as violent clashes began on Wednesday in the central Tahrir Square, as orchestrated waves of pro-government forces swept in, using rocks, bats, and knives and Molotov cocktails against the anti-government protesters.

      The cellphone service provider Vodafone acknowledged that the government had invoked emergency powers to force it to send out text messages.

      Some of the messages appeared to include calls for people to turn out in support of the government, and were sent ahead of the violent clashes. Images of the messages were posted online and first reported by The Guardian.

      “To every mother-father-sister-brother, to every honest citizen preserve this country as the nation is forever,” read one message.

      With Internet services largely restored, many Egyptian bloggers began posting in earnest.

      Egyptian state television also began showing images from Tahrir Square for the first time on Wednesday as violence escalated, focusing on supporters of Mr. Mubarak and scenes of pitched street battles. It appeared likely that both moves by the government were directed at painting a violent image of the antigovernment protesters.

      “It’s clearly a media strategy that’s being implemented,” Tala Dowlatshahi, a spokeswoman for Reporters Without Borders. “State-controlled television has been broadcasting soap operas and cooking shows for the past few days until today.”

      The government has sought to control information since large-scale protests against Mr. Mubarak and his subordinates began last month, but overt harassment has been scattered and attempts to control the gripping images and narratives from Cairo have mostly failed. Wednesday’s attacks appeared to represent the most coordinated and widespread effort to stop foreign reporters from doing their jobs.

      “The Egyptian government is employing a strategy of eliminating witnesses to their actions” in a “series of deliberate attacks on journalists,” Mohamed Abdel Dayem of the Committee to Protect Journalists, said on Wednesday.

      Reporters Without Borders said it had received dozens of confirmed reports of violence against local and international journalists in Egypt on Wednesday. Tala Dowlatshahi, a spokeswoman for the group, said to “expect more foreign journalists to be targeted.”

    • 1 year ago
  • freecrack
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      freecrack  
    • maybe a weed thought, but it looks like mubarak is more shrewd than expected.
      once the police lost control, he had them looting.
      now after looting, state media is confucing the shit out of the people with mixed reports(and no internet) keeping the citizenry from being able to make heads or tales of anything.

      all the while not noticing basic supplies are lacking, as they were looted.
      a hungry population doesnt fight.

    • 1 year ago
  • ayipis
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      ayipis  
    • based on how humanity reacts to this and how humanity approach this ...iran..sudan..myramar..libya..

      a lot of barking at the moon, pounding of the chest..grinding of teeth..then everybody turns off the computer and watches "american idol"..

      obama..the UN..Amnesty International..is going to condemn this but IS NOT GOING TO DO SHIT...

      tragic....

    • 1 year ago
  • AJILIVIZION
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      AJILIVIZION  
    • ayipis:

      WHAT? You really have no clue what is going in the world. If you mean humanity as a whole does not all fly over to help, yes, they probably wont do that. But if you think that there isn't a person out there that is willing to get off there ass to help others in need, then step away from the mirror and get outside once in awhile. Just because you wont be doing to help others, and most the people you know in real life dont do much to help others, doesn't not mean that is what the rest of the world is like. You have no clue what the rest of the members on Current do for a living. Now that I think about it, have you ever watched Current TV? You can watch the material online. Check out the Vanguard series, the VC2 content.

    • 1 year ago
  • Nephwrack
  • Eddie_Miller
  • AJILIVIZION
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      AJILIVIZION  
    • Eddie_Miller:

      I helped my friends through facebook. Maybe you dont know this about me, but I am half Kuwaiti. I have been living between Kuwait and Florida, always back and forth, and have high-school diplomas from the US and Kuwait. My first girl friend is Egyptian, and is now a student at AUC (American University of Cairo). I have Egyptian friends that live all around the world, but a couple of them that are in Egypt as we speak. I used what resources I had by helping them get in contact with whomever they needed, whether it be friends, family, business associates, or organizations that could help them in some way. When the internet was being fiddled with in Egypt, I helped transfer the numbers and addresses of people that were able to bypass the blocks. I did not do any of this on my own, it was all thanks to people sharing this information as it was coming in, and I just acted as a messenger.

      So, Eddie Miller, you think maybe I helped a little?

    • 1 year ago
  • JanforGore
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      JanforGore  
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    • http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/02/01/AR2011020101338....

      He bussed them in.

      "Thousands of supporters of the 82-year-old president were bused into what has been the central gathering place of the anti-Mubarak forces. There were also rallies in support of Mubarak overlooking the Nile River a short distance away.

      Those arriving on buses in support of the president appeared to be all men - a sharp contrast to the many families, women and children participating in the much larger anti-government protests. The men rushed into the square, shouting "No to vandalism!" and began painting over anti-Mubarak graffiti with slogans like "Egypt = Mubarak."

    • 1 year ago
  • RaceBannon
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      RaceBannon  
    • an anarchist movement that could be proved to work? Oh no way, no how! send in the agent provocateurs courtesy of international financial interest.

      Then again there could really be a significant group of loyalist who support this pseudo dictator....don't hold your breathe

    • 1 year ago
  • crystalman
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      crystalman  
    • according to a June, 2010 Pew opinion survey of Egyptians:

      Fifty nine percent said they back Islamists. Only 27% said they back modernizers. Half of Egyptians support Hamas. Thirty percent support Hizbullah and 20% support al Qaida. Moreover, 95% of them would welcome Islamic influence over their politics….Eighty two percent of Egyptians support executing adulterers by stoning, 77% support whipping and cutting the hands off thieves. 84% support executing any Muslim who changes his religion…When this preference is translated into actual government policy, it is clear that the Islam they support is the al Qaida Salafist version.

      When given the opportunity, the crowds on the street are not shy about showing what motivates them. They attack Mubarak and his new Vice President Omar Suleiman as American puppets and Zionist agents. The US, protesters told CNN’s Nick Robertson, is controlled by Israel. They hate and want to destroy Israel. That is why they hate Mubarak and Suleiman.

    • 1 year ago
  • JanforGore
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      JanforGore  
    • crystalman:

      And you hate all Muslims so you're even. I guess your hate pays you well which is why you are in every thread on this topic posting your fearmongering spew. I only posted this because I believe in self determination for those who sincerely want it, and there are many of those and this escalation of violence is undeserved as they are now put into the middle of this geopolitical storm. Those families who were in the square protesting peacefully for change because they love their country I bet were never part of your Bs fearmongering 'polls.' So sad you can only see things in your own politically tainted view to support your own agenda on this site. I have no room in my heart for the hatred that resides in your own. You are part of the problem in this world. You and your neocon puppetmasters who foment your little wars to appease your own bloodlust and hatred which winds up hurting people on all sides. You take a peoples' movement that was designed to give succeeding generations in Egypt a chance at a better life than the shit they have been handed and turn iit into your own political vendetta. You and people on all sides who continue this cycle of hatred make me sick. You defend a man who would send thugs into a peaceful protest throwing molotov cocktails off roofs into crowds with children in them? There is only one word for a person like that.

    • 1 year ago
  • ArchDruid
  • JanforGore
  • shanklinmike
  • JanforGore
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      JanforGore  
    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4GDV1GOvcs

      More footage. The comment at the end is so true. If Mubarak gets these protesters to leave the square the movement would be essentially over. This is then the goal. That is why we must be concerned for loss of life of innocent people who simply wish to stay there to make their case for freedom.

    • 1 year ago
  • JanforGore
  • JanforGore
  • JanforGore
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      JanforGore  
    • I find it so coincidental that all of these "pro" Mubarak supporters hit the streets right after his announcement about staying until September.

    • 1 year ago
  • keithponder
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      keithponder  
    • JanforGore:

      http://current.com/news/92955138_anderson-cooper-attacked-beaten-by-pro-mubarak-...

      It's getting worse and it appears that the worse of the worse is yet to come.
      Anderson Cooper and his crew were attacked by supporters of embattled Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak in Cairo early Wednesday, according to the Huffington Post. CNN Coverage Manager Steve Brusk tweeted that Cooper was "was punched 10 times in the head as pro-Mubarak mob surrounded him and his crew trying to cover demonstration."

      Cooper was covering dueling demonstrations between pro-Mubarak supporters and those calling for the president to be removed from office when he and his crew came under attack. No major injuries were reported, and the anchor spoke to CNN's 'American Morning' early Wednesday about the attack. "My team were set upon by the crowd," Cooper said via telephone from a Cairo hotel. "There was no rhyme or reason to it -- it was just people looking for a fight, looking to make a point and punching us."

      "They at first started going for the cameras; they didn't want any pictures taken," Cooper said. "The crowd kept growing, kept throwing punches, kicks ... suddenly a young man would look at you and punch you in the face."

      CNN issued an update this morning indicating there were no serious injuries sustained during the attack. Cooper and his crew had been trying to steer clear of the protesters by remaining in a neutral zone between the two groups. But as the size of the crowd increased, the situation became less stable, resulting in violence between the two factions in the increasingly unstable country.

      "Anderson Cooper witnessed a huge crowd of Mubarak supporters surge across a no-man's land dividing them from the anti-Mubarak crowd and overturn a military vehicle on the street as a huge roar went up. A large cloud of smoke arose at the east entrance to Tahrir Square," CNN wrote. "Military vehicles were separating pro- and anti-Mubarak demonstrators, and several gasoline bombs had been tossed."

      Major anti-government protests began in Egypt on Jan. 25 -- the "Day of Anger," also National Police Day -- and have escalated in size and violence since. Millions have turned out to demand President Mubarak and his regime's immediate removal from office amid allegations of abuse of power and corruption within his administration. More recently, however, supporters of the president have turned out to stage counter protests that have become extremely violent, with the two sides attacking each other with stones, bottles and sticks and the Egyptian military forced to police the situation.

    • 1 year ago
  • JanforGore
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      JanforGore  
    • keithponder:

      Pretty obvious then that these pro Mubarak supporters are thugs simply sent in to disrupt the peaceful protest. You are right. This is not getting better and with people trapped in there including women and children...

    • 1 year ago
  • samthesixth
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