Nice description. Thanks.

There you are.
Desperately attempting to convince us that climate science is the "same old bullshit."
I'm sure you think Darwin had a liberal agenda and the Earth is only 6,000 years old.
And please don't quote Bono to me. Were you brushing up on my profile and stupidly thought that you could shut me up with a lyric from one of his songs?
We understand your mission and hopefully most of us don't buy it.
You distrust science. Face it.
You believe it's all a natural cycle..
What you fail to grasp is that we humans are a major part of nature!
And we all know how much you hate Jan4Gore.
Do you people even know you're lying?
Is it some strange sort of patriotism that compels you to twist the truth so?
I really want to understand what motivates you.

Would you support making multifuel capable vehicles mandatory for all new vehicles sold in the US?

We have cars on the road now that can run nearly or completely petroleum free.

You need to wipe your face. You have something on it.

Maybe it is from kissing oil company a..........

I think the Amish are right.
What's wrong with with a good old horse and buggy?
Or a bicycle?
Perhaps even walking.
The happiest and healthiest 10 years of my adult life where when I didn't own a car.

Yes, electric cars give us a false sense of doing something about global warming. The electricity is primarily generated by coal-fired power plants.
I like the idea of sequestering carbon in concrete or whatever material it can strengthen.
But why has it taken us so long to put these great ideas into practice?

It is always uplifting to hear good news!
I appreciate your optimism.

Get some facts! If an electric car is using a fossil fuel to get its electricity it is STILL so much more efficient that one gas car uses as much fossil fuel as TEN electric cars. Just by switching to electric cars you are reducing use of fossil fuel 90%!!!

AND electric cars can get electricity from renewable sources like solar, wind and hydro.

So get some facts straight before you go saying stupid stuff like that.

Not to mention what do we do with millions of spent batteries in the end, it will not be cheap to recycle them thats for sure

She will shake us off like a bad case of flees.
I'm not worried about Mother Nature.
We should all be deeply concerned about the immediate fate of humankind!

Oh gee, more superstition.

Um... If you're talking about the Mayan malarkey, that's 12/21/2012.

Hey, the Maya are not members of the Malarkey clan!
They rival the world's greatest astronomers and invented the most accurate calenders ever devised.
Maya timekeepers are just as perplexed by the western hype over 12/21/12 as you are.
To them it is simply the end of their 25,630 year Grand Cycle spanning one full precession of the equinox (in their case solstice).
Gee, that's the last time we had an ice age.
Everyone interested in this subject MUST read the only book I know written by an actual Maya timekeeper: "13 B'aktun" by Gaspar Gonzalez (North Atlantic Books 2010).
The Maya knew about the center of our Milky Way millennia before Europeans figured out the Earth isn't flat nor the center of the universe.

Well, in regards to the change in consciousness we are going to need to face this I hope that particular day comes soon. Perhaps current world events are showing us just that (?)

yeah right... as soon as a tree pops up, we cut it down... no new rainforests

if we keep doing that we wont be here much longer!!!

When the Moon is in the Seventh House
and Jupiter aligns with Mars.....

let the sun shine

Ocean currents.

and peace will guide our plaaaanet, and loooove will steer the stars,
' this is the dawning of the age of Aquarius

Let the sun shine in
'ohhh, let it shine on in
.

The latest research shows that temperate conifer forests sequester more carbon from the atmosphere than tropical rainforests.
Did you know that at the time of the dinosaurs the Sequoia family was the predominant tree in the northern hemisphere? Both were wiped out by the asteroid that slammed into the Gulf of Mexico 65 million years ago.
Sequoias are the fastest growing conifer and transpire CO2 every day of the year, unlike deciduous trees. The sequoiadendren giganteum thrives between USDA zones 5 and 10 (about a third of the world down to -10 below zero f.) I planted 50 tiny 6 inch sequoia saplings here in Pennsylvania within the past five years and a few have reached 15 feet tall and 7 feet wide!
One sequoia can remove over 50 pounds of CO2 from the air every year in exchange for oxygen and rainclouds. Humans produce about 8 billion metric tons of CO2 every year. Do the math and it would require approximately 352 billion sequoias to erase our carbon footprint.
It can't get more simple.

"The leaves of the tree are for the healing of the nations." (Rev.22:2)

"cannabis is the healing of the nation" Bob Marley ...thanks you for the verse.

Lucifer was first among the angels. He was knew all things. He was exceedingly beautiful. And he was the strongest of all the hosts of the heavens. He shone with a brilliant white light.

But Lucifer was vain, proud and arrogant. He said I am the equal of God. I am superior to God. And he sought to make all in heaven worship him. He DEMANDED that all worship him instead of God.

For awhile, God forebore and did nothing. All the hosts in heaven watched and when they saw that God was doing nothing to Lucifer, and how strong and powerful he was----they abandoned God and sought the favor of Lucifer. They fawned, and praised and flattered him all in hopes of gaining favor in Lucifer's eye.

Then, when it became clear which of the multitudes remained with God---and which had sided with Lucifer, God called the Archangel Micheal to his presence. God gave Micheal great sword. Then, God reached out his finger and infused the sword with His power. The sword leapt to life in Micheal's hand. Great fire issued from the blade. Then Micheal went forth and smote Lucifer and his vassal legions. In the twinkling of an eye, their great power and majesty vanished. They fell backward in confusion and fear at the very sight of the awesome power in Micheal's hand. Then the sky and the earth parted in a great rift that plunged all the way to the eternal fires of the underworld. They fell backward into the rift, and plunged into the underworld. Then Micheal slowly passed the blade of the sword over the great rift, and the sky and the earth came back together, sealing Lucifer and his legions to their fate---banished to the fires of the underworld forever.

Now man has become vain, proud and arrogant. Man thinks that he knows all things. Man believes that he can do anything. Man believes that he is wise and powerful. Man has learned many things---he has science and machines. He can do things that are miraculous. Man do almost anything. He can even manipulate the secrets of creation. Man believes he can do anything. Man believes he has become equal to God.

Man believes he can make a tree.

Only God can make a tree.

For awhile, God forebore, and did nothing.

Interesting post.
Several comments:
Lucifer was correct according to early Gnostic Christians. Even Jesus identified himself with Lucifer when he said in Revelation "I am the bright morning star" (Venus/Lucifer).
Lucifer is not Satan. That would be Yahweh according to the Gnostics.
Rudolf Steiner published a wonderful lecture on this entitled Lucifer and Ahriman.
Google it. It will blow your mind!

It's been building here for a while. We had our hottest summer on record here last year and the year before was right up there as well. We have also been experiencing erratic weather, much more precipitation in every form and shortening of spring and fall. It's like the seasons are tripping over each other and we also have not seen bees or many other insects except larger mosquitoes in summer. It is a rarity we see a butterfly and I haven't seen a caterpillar in years when they were very prevalent here growing up. Subtle changes over years that have now amplified to bigger ones.

I know what you mean, I used to see grasshoppers all the time during the summer when I was a kid. And the bluff us kids used to play at all the time had actual lizards, here in Portland, imagine that lizards I haven't seen one of those since.

Seventh Generation... And I bet not as much as you do.

It is like a person into self mutilation. That is how I see humanity regarding the Earth. Planting trees, so simple yet so important to our survival. And personally, __ the Superbowl.

"Unseen buds, infinite, hidden well
Under the snow and ice, under the darkness, in every square inch or cubic inch,
Germinal, exquisite, in delicate lace, microscopic, unborn,
Like babies in wombs, latent, folded, compact, sleeping;
Billions of billions, and trillions of trillions of them waiting,
(On earth and in the sea--the universe--the stars there in the heavens,)
Urging slowly, surely forward, forming endless,
And waiting ever more, forever more behind."

~Walt Whitman
Leaves of Grass (Deathbed Edition 1892)

Did you know that the toilet paper that you use is more than the national average?

You sound like another poster here, so pardon me if I just ignore your redundant BS.

Yes, which is why they aren't worth our time anymore. This is too serious to waste time on their diversions.

maybe time to plant the trees ourselves. the Wife and I plant seeds of all kinds of trees.

Plant a tree, it's good for mother earth!

It shall be done for it was asked :)

Have you ever planted a tree?
Do you even know what a tree really is?
Hint: it's not a thermostat you can turn up when it gets cold.

I do it to make Myself feel good an to help The planet. I'm trying to make up for all the oils I've spilt on the ground. What do you do to help heal the damage that has been done by you being here?

Ayipis, that's who you sound like. To a tee. Again then, pardon me while I ignore your BS.

Try planting them in your yard. Plant fruit trees or nuts. Like pecan ot hickery. The Wife and I have been planting fruit trees both orange and grapefruit. You don't have to go out of your way to plant a tree.

Hey ayipus How goes things in the land of trolls?

I've witnessed it getting worse every year since about 1980 being a gardener all my life.
Everywhere I look since then weather patterns, particularly droughts and floods, have been getting more severe by the year.
That was back in the day they still called it The Greenhouse Effect. When they started calling it Global Warming in the mid '80s I thought it was a bad idea because it isn't just warming. Simpletons even then complained it wasn't real every time it snowed.
But Climate Change is still not the best name for it -- a little vague.
I prefer Ecocollapse.

I agree. We need a term that explains the seriousness of the threat much more concisely, but you know we musn't instill any urgency in people to actually do something/sarcasm.

We need more sarcasm!
Perhaps the biggest problem we face is waiting for governments to take action.
The Chinese government planted a billion trees over the past decade and most died because the soil was depleted by erosion and they didn't think to tend the saplings.
I get even more disappointed by my countercultural friends who waste too much time protesting corporate evil and spend too little time in their gardens, myself included.
Helping the planet begins in our own back yards!

I like Frankenclimate!
That really sums it up well.

It seems that the trolls come out late at night.

Now look at the hypocrite who excoriates people who care about this by labelling them all "extremists." And if I recall, the term "climate change" was thought up by Frank Luntz a Republican strategist which is why I don't really like it because it deliberately lends itself to not being an urgent situation. Oh, and of course, "climategate" wasn't a label put on anything by oil loving "extremists." What phonies they all are.

Oh, and my term is biodistress. Think I'll use that from now on.

Do you have any ideas on where the best place to be on Earth may be ? The ones that would last the longest, given minimal but survivable requirements.

Survival skills do not depend on where you are at. Survival skills depend on what you know and how you use the resources available to you.

If you want to find survival skills---look to the past. Your forefathers were not stupid. If they were, you would not be here.

Historical re-enactment is an excellent way to learn survival skills. Hunting, fishing, farming, tool making and use are not something you learn from a book----you learn by doing. Starting a fire on a cold snowy morning with nothing but what you can find laying around you in the environment is not something you learn from a book.

Here is another hint. Learn what the beliefs, structures, stories and skeleton of the social systems were. No humans survive in isolation. They need other humans as well. Even the tough, self reliant mountainmen had to come down out of the mountains every now and then to barter for the supplies they could not make for themselves.

Good luck.

Biodistress is a much more accurate term for what's going on not only with the atmosphere but on the land and in the oceans as a result.
I admire your devotion to waking people up to this current emergency!

High ground, a good aquafer, perhaps Canada or Greenland (if an ice age doesn't result from all the melting tundra).
James Lovelock thinks a safe bet is tropical islands (with high ground) which won't be effected as much by warmer climate.
I feel safe and secure here in western Pennsylvania.
But God help places like Florida!