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Gay Man is banned from having sex by Court because his IQ is too low

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A man with an IQ of 48 has been ordered to stop having sex by a High Court judge.
Known only as Alan, the 41-year-old was in a relationship with a man he lived with and said he wanted it to continue.
However, his local council said his 'vigorous sex drive' was inappropriate so started legal proceedings to restrict the relationship.


The authority said that his moderate learning disability and IQ of just 48 - the average is 100 - meant he did not understand what he was doing.
One psychiatrist said that he would be confused if sex education was given to him.
Mr Justice Mostyn said the case threw up issues 'legally, intellectually and morally' because sex is 'one of the most basic human functions' according to the Daily Telegraph.
He said that the court must 'tread especially carefully' when the state gets involved.
Despite his fears for interfering in a person's sex life, he agreed that he did not have the mental capacity to know about the health risks and should be banned from having sex.
His council will now monitor him closely to make sure he doesn't breach the order.
Justice Mostyn said: 'Alan does not have the capacity to consent to and engage in sexual relations.
'In such circumstances it is agreed that the present regime for Alan's supervision and for the prevention of future sexual activity is in his best interests.
Alan, who lived in a house owned by the council, was in a sexual relationship with someone known as Kieron and contact between the two men has been restricted.
He was said to be physically able but 'seriously challenged in all aspects of his mental functionality.'


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1354025/High-Court-bans-man-low-IQ-havin...
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38 comments // Gay Man is banned from having sex by Court because his IQ is too low

  • ineedaname777777
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      ineedaname777777  
    • this isnt real! it can't be real! I mean I have been saying for years that stupid people should be told they have to adopt instead of continuing to have inbreed back woods children, It's not about how nice this seems, it's about us as humans and the quality of life that comes with being a idiot.

    • 1 year ago
  • Incredulous
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      Incredulous  
    • Since when does any court have the right to ban someone from having sex? More erosion of human rights by societies that try to call themselves free. I am so sick of this Big Brother mentality that wants to protect everyone from themselves.

    • 1 year ago
  • royulery
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      royulery  
    • when i was in higschool, i worked as a summer counselor at a school for the retarded. i was showing a class how to fill out job applications and in one application one of the girls misunderstood a question. there was a tiny box next to the word "sex" that you would put m or f, well she wrote in very very small letters "scott thomas".

    • 1 year ago
  • choice
  • fun_size
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      fun_size  
    • What? Since when can you ban someone from sex for being too stupid? Hell 1/2 the church's attendees wouldnt be allowed to procreate then. Plus hes gay... its not like hes gonna pass on his genes.

    • 1 year ago
  • zHellas
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      zHellas  
    • I would understand if he had a serious disease or condition that is inheritable, but not stupidity.

      Stupid parents do not equal stupid kids.

      EDIT: Oh, he's gay.

      ...Then why ban him from having sex? Like he'll end up procreating!

    • 1 year ago
  • existentialist
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      existentialist  
    • As long as the man is happy then it shouldn't matter. But, to put things in perspective imagine, instead it was a mentally retarded woman who was being sodomized. I think many people would say she was being taken advantage of and should not be allowed to continue having sex with the man.

      With credit to cracked.com's After Hours, take the scene in Forrest Gump where Jenny comes on to Forrest. Now flip the roles and image it was a guy doing the same thing to a mentally retarded woman. Seems pretty creepy from that perspective. Never-the-less, I still would see the situation as acceptable.

      There is a double standard when it comes to sex and gender. With a retarded guy it is like "go buddy! That's great the poor guy is getting some." but if it was a retarded woman, most people I believe would be like, "That is horrible! Poor girl is getting taken advantage of." Even if the non-retarded person is benefiting from the sexual exchange and the retarded person does not technically understand consent, doesn't make it inappropriate in my mind. Unless, the retarded is averse to sex or it is somehow painful to them, why should they not enjoy that pleasure. Retards sometimes can't consent to what food they eat, where they live or myriad other things that they are not deprived of. Why should they be deprived of sexual pleasure?

    • 1 year ago
  • UtopianSky
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      UtopianSky  
    • A dog can understand sex.
      A rat can understand sex.
      A bug can understand sex.

      And they think a man with an IQ of 48 can't understand sex?

      He may have the mind of a child, but he has the body of a man and he has the same needs as anyone else.

      I bet he is not forbidden to drink or smoke.

    • 1 year ago
  • ineedaname777777
    • +2
      ineedaname777777  
    • gods of most religions were living beings that came from the sky in ships, if you read the veda's you will find that the hindu describe how to make the ships and, buddiest, zoro...whatevers, and a few others worship gods that where living beings, pagens, satanist, They all follow there beings! All this Aliens also told them that there is a Great Spirit, or creator, and they told us how to search for this, Adam was the first Human, he came from homo-sapiens. Hitler and the occult where building these ships, traveling to the inner earth, and even conversing with aliens...I don't push religion, I look for the truth in a world filled with lies! one love and Peace

    • 1 year ago
  • EmperorThan
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      EmperorThan  
    • My god, Oklahoma would disappear overnight if we banned people with low IQs from having sex here!

      Just because someone has the intelligence of a child should we treat them as a child forever? is the question. I don't think we should, they're trying to protect him from health risks they say he doesn't understand and is incapable of understanding but it's not the state's business to protect people from themselves. Ever. If they're trying to say he could spread disease to others then that's the "other people's" own stupid ass fault. Again, because it's everyones own right as human beings to decide who they have sex with or what 'level of risk' to take while picking a sex partner. Plenty of people that have herpes S2 with high IQs have sex everyday. So why is it any different from depriving a person with a high IQ or a low IQ from having risky sex?

      We all die eventually, a 100% mortality rate, how much fun or sexual risk we decide to take before that day comes is up to the discretion of each individual. If we get a disease, even a lifelong one, it will only be lifelong.

    • 1 year ago
  • gharrison14
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      gharrison14  
    • Alan has had 'sexual relations' with both genders (paragraph 5 of the judgment) and clearly displays a sexual interest in children. Doesn't that make him bisexual with paedophile interests.

    • 1 year ago
  • freecrack
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      freecrack  
    • i like the sentiment, but im all about equality.
      if gay dudes are too dumb to fuck, same should apply to heterosexuals.even more so being as hetero sex results in more people like the fuckers in question.it isnt like kendra wilkenson is gunna bang a meathead jock and produce a rhodes scholar.

      keep the dumb gays from fucking if you must, but not before stopping the dumb heteros that actualy have a massive effect on our collective success.

      ah eugenics.i guess nazism never goes out of fashion

    • 1 year ago
  • gharrison14
    • +2
      gharrison14  
    • It might help if people actually read Mostyn J’s judgment (as opposed to an article in the Daily Mail which was itself a rip off of a badly written article in the Daily Telegraph) in this case before writing about it. A copy of the judgment can be found here: http://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWHC/COP/2011/101.html
      When you read the judgment, you’ll discover that the man has not been banned from having sex. The local authority that cares for him has been instructed to put in place measures to prevent him from having sex. This is for his protection and for that of, for example, the 9 and 10 year old girls he touched up. The orders the court made are temporary and will be reviewed in 9 months once sex education work has been done with him.

    • 1 year ago
  • GENERALNATTY
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      GENERALNATTY  
    • gharrison14:

      good post ,

      "In addition to the relationship between Alan and Kieron, two events involving Alan in 2008 prompted the local authority to make this application.
      i) On 12 September 2008 a young boy in a dentist's waiting area observed a man touching his groin, licking his lips and was then asked by the man for his name. The dentist's diary showed that Alan was due for an appointment at that time.
      ii) On 10 September 2008 two girls aged 9 and 10 stated that when travelling on a bus a man had commented upon their physical appearance, touched their upper legs and then attempted to look up their skirts. The police were notified. On 4 October 2008 these two girls were travelling on the bus once again, as was Alan. The girls notified the bus driver who also notified the police. Alan was then taken to the police station and questioned. However, the police decided that no further action should be taken against him."

      how could facts that HUGE be missing , smh this article was clearly written to incite outrage , instead of show the real story , as soon as i read it i knew there was more to it.

    • 1 year ago
  • alexandrek
  • freecrack
  • bike10
  • dannym2
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      dannym2  
    • sounds to me that he knew just what he was doing,something that makes him fill good,.which is why he liked it alot. no problem here officer

    • 1 year ago
  • dannym2
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      dannym2  
    • dannym2:

      Ok,I just reread that artical,and I think it is a bunch of bull.a moderate learning disability,would put you about 3/4 of the way up the scale,so the 48 IQ is bull. If he was that bad off they would have him in a room all to himself

    • 1 year ago
  • ozoneocean
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      ozoneocean  
    • I don't see what's wrong with stupid people having sex, as long as he's with a responsible partner who is well aware of the health issues. It's his partner who should be under scrutiny, not the stupid guy. Is he being taken advantage off? Exploited?

    • 1 year ago
  • dannym2
  • toastyguy11
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      toastyguy11  
    • wow, wtf? Seriously, the courts have absolutley no right to tell us when we can and can't have sex, it's maybe the secondmost basic function after eating

    • 1 year ago
  • ozoneocean
  • dannym2
  • ozoneocean
    • 0
      ozoneocean  
    • dannym2:

      If you think sex is the most basic function after eating then I'd have to guess that the title "virgin" probably suites you better.
      It's only obsessed, inexperienced adolescents or old and very lonely men who not only hold those sorts of views but feel the need to call others a "virgin" when they don't.

      But don't worry Dan, you'll meet the right partner one day. Just make sure their IQ is above 48. ;)

    • 1 year ago
  • toastyguy11
  • coolplanet
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      coolplanet  
    • Our entire problem is that stupid people are breeding like rabbits because god said so.
      I have long felt that homosexuality is evolution's answer to overpopulation.
      But this article slams home the reality that stupidity is just a part of evolution.

    • 1 year ago
  • dannym2
  • Chopstick
  • Pollo_Loco_
  • MizPiz
    • +6
      MizPiz  
    • WHAT THE FUCK!? YOU BAN SOMEONE FROM HAVING SEX BECAUSE THEY'RE IQ IS TOO LOW WHEN HE'S GAY, YET STRAIGHT PEOPLE CAN FUCK SO LONG AS THEY DON'T HURT JESUS' FEELINGS BY USING SOME FORM OF BIRTH CONTROL? I SERIOUSLY FUCKING HATE OUR SOCIETY!

    • 1 year ago
  • GENERALNATTY
  • MizPiz
    • +1
      MizPiz  
    • GENERALNATTY:

      While both cases do deal (in part) with whether or not a mentally challenged person could give consent to sex, there's a huge difference between what the case is saying. Your post (or at least the trial your post was referring to) is implying that the guy was at fault for manipulating the girl. With this, it's essentially saying that the mentally challenged guy is somehow in the wrong.

    • 1 year ago
  • ApeFace
  • jubal
  • Cakem1x
  • bundlebear
  • timetide
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