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122 Americans Die Today for Lack of Health Care while You Watch the "News"

JonRaymond
http://gothealthcaremovie.com
122 died yesterday and 122 will die tomorrow. 45,000 Americans die annually (9/11 times 15) for lack of healthcare according to a 2009 Harvard University study. Do you know any of the names of these people who die? Do you even care? Are you a patriot? Do you care that Americans die for corporate profit? Or are you too busy watching the "news?"

Meanwhile in the "news," Republicans in Congress plan to privatize Medicare. Obama says the US will do all it can to support an orderly transition to "democracy" in Egypt. Do you suppose he means he will help to institute a corporate healthcare industry there? What exactly does he mean by "democracy?" Because in the USA we have a corporate oligarchy.

Read the stat report: http://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2009/09/new-study-finds-45000-deaths-annua...

Meanwhile... Wolfowitz Sees Corporate Health Mogul as Egyptian Transition Leader: http://current.com/http://jonraymond.blogspot.com/2011/02/wolfowitz-sees-corpora...
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  • Aurere
  • BoyGenius68
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      BoyGenius68  
    • Jon,
      You are correct... the system is broken and needs to be fixed but its still the best system in the world by comparison. The US is where all of the other countries people come when they need a life saving procedure asap before they drop dead on a waiting list, and with the best doctors in the world... if they can afford it. There are solutions to make our system more efficient and affordable to the tax payer by privatizing the healthcare system, similiar to auto insurance, and allowing people to shop out of state, with Gov. fair practices over view (that seems like an oxymoron "Government overview.") The problem is, "the Gov. is unable to run anything efficiently, they waste and spend without regard for the bottom line." The Gov. seems to have no accountability to anyone it seems... they need money they print it, a company needs money they become more competitive and better so they can survive. Competition is what drives innovation not bureaucracy. The Gov. does not create jobs, they are there to support the infrastructure so that business may thrive. Hey Jon, if we pull our troops out of over half the countries in the world and stop fighting the battles for rouge dictators we could afford to provide healthcare for everyone.

    • 1 year ago
  • JonRaymond
    • 0
      JonRaymond  
    • BoyGenius68:

      "if they can afford it" - they can't. This is a mute point.

      The healthcare [non]system IS privatized. THAT is the problem. Government run health care insurance (not the care itself) works exceedingly well in every other industrialized country. Shopping for insurance across state lines is a corporate solution to make corporations more profitable and let them take advantage of states that have less restrictions to avoid insuring and paying claims. Private health care cannot and does not work by definition, just like private police and fire protection could never work. Would you give only the rich fire protection, and let everyone else's house burn down? [ http://vimeo.com/18613750 ]

      But yes, ending the wars would give us the resources to do many things for people. Maybe those kind of resources would allow the US to both have universal health care and maintain the high and sometimes expensive standard of it's quality free for all people.

    • 1 year ago
  • BoyGenius68
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      BoyGenius68  
    • No one can be legally turned away from the emergency room in the United States, illegal or legal citizens for that matter. Unfortunately hospitals are closing due to the lose of tens and hundreds of millions of dollars each year in free care. Our country spends more money on social services and charity care than any and all counties put together. Did you know that the catholic church is the 2nd largest provide of funds for free health care in the US 2nd to the US government? Crazy right?

    • 1 year ago
  • JonRaymond
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      JonRaymond  
    • BoyGenius68:

      And yet 45,000 Americans die every year because they have no insurance. 62% of US bankruptcies are due to medical debt. Healthcare costs $6,000 more per person in the US than in any other country. The US ranks 37th in healthcare in the world.

      So regardless of your undocumented comments, it's not working here, is it? As to the "free" care that hospitals supposedly provide, we all pay for that in higher insurance premiums and costs. If the government insured all the people (like every other civilized country) we'd wouldn't have these problems. Universal healthcare is proven to work in every other industrialized country.

    • 1 year ago
  • Paratus
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      Paratus  
    • I ride an ambulance and work in an emergency room. No one is turned away and the huge majority we see in both venues are not emergencies. I do see some, one just last week, who died due to refusing care and some left AMA (against medical advice) but I have never seen anyone refused care.

    • 1 year ago
  • JonRaymond
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      JonRaymond  
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    • Paratus:

      Oh, you work in an ER and you know for a fact that no one is ever turned away in any hospital in the entire country. How about the toddler who lost her hand and feet?

      But it's not just those who are turned away. It's the [non]system that provides no preventative care to people who end up in the ER because they could have avoided problems had they been seeing a doctor sooner, or those who never go to the ER for fear of medical debt. Only in America.

      http://thestir.cafemom.com/toddler/114559/toddler_loses_hands_feet_to

    • 1 year ago
  • JonRaymond
  • JonRaymond
  • luzer
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      luzer  
    • blah blah blah the most expensive health care costs are the last year of life. if people weren't so selfish it would be a lot cheaper for everyone.

    • 1 year ago
  • JonRaymond
  • Leen61
    • +3
      Leen61  
    • Great video! This is the reality! @twinite....great post....your list is the facts. There is no excuse why this country can't have Universal health care. I have seen "SICKO." So many sad stories. Obama did not get us health care reform. But we sure have money for stupid wars, don't we?! This country is too damn greedy to have health care for all.

    • 1 year ago
  • Peacey
  • Gravity_Man
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      Gravity_Man  
    • Peacey:

      Perhaps, but it's best they concentrate on Alien Relations first. Then they still hafta keep tabs on British Petroleum saboteur activity too. Health care is of necessity shunted way down the List, as is proper.

    • 1 year ago
  • NiceN
    • +2
      NiceN  
    • The prison population has more access to health care than a person walking on the street. America has failed her citizens health rights.

    • 1 year ago
  • Schnookums
    • +4
      Schnookums  
    • Most people would frown on fire departments being run as a for-profit business. Why is saving lives with doctors and nurses different than saving lives with firefighters?

      The insurance company business model that has become the de facto gateway to care in this country isn't in need of reform, it is in serious need of replacement. Coupled with wall-street, the goal of healthcare businesses in the US is all about profit.

      While most businesses who offer a service should be free to compete against each other and be rewarded by profit when they perform that service better than their rivals, when that free-market model for a humanitarian service is designed to retain as much money as possible at the expense of people's lives, something has to change.

    • 1 year ago
  • artemis6
  • oldbanjo
    • +3
      oldbanjo  
    • If the people of the US don't get Health care like other Country's, everyone should band together and demand that the Congress and the Senate lose their free Health Care.

    • 1 year ago
  • FLeggplant
  • Gravity_Man
  • GENERALNATTY
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      GENERALNATTY  
    • The Upside of the american health care system is that the some of the best innovations and techniques and treatments in health care are created in the U.S.

      On the flipside of the coin a lot of people have to die or suffer and fall through the cracks.

      The Best System is going to be one that somehow combines private health care and a public one so the money is still going into the system but everyone at least can get basic care.

      Let me tell you first hand universal health care has hell of a lot of faults as well , but americans cannot continue this dog eat dog mentality, i know most people on this site hate any religious reference at all but a country full of people who understand being a "Good Samaritan" should be part of everyday life , is a country on the right path.

    • 1 year ago
  • artemis6
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      artemis6  
    • GENERALNATTY:

      Really ? Can you name some in the last few years ? It would do me good to know who in the states IS doing research that is a nonprofit . I HAVE noticed they find a lot of new uses for OLD drugs ..... and we are the cutting edge in PLASTIC surgery , if you don't mind the price .

    • 1 year ago
  • treewolf39
  • coolplanet
  • treewolf39
    • +3
      treewolf39  
    • Great post Jon. I am one of the 50 thousand and I know a hundred more. Somehow WE must make the machine work for all the people. Simple flat health care tax and start health education in elementary school. Soda pop and salty canned foods combined with high does of estrogen from pregnant cows are the cash cow for a health profit system. This shit has got to change.

    • 1 year ago
  • JonRaymond
  • Kim_Garnett
  • Kim_Garnett
    • +3
      Kim_Garnett  
    • I've gone to a health care for all rally. It's pretty sad to watch people get arrested for a cause that will benefit me and all I know and they know nothing about me.

    • 1 year ago
  • foshea
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      foshea  
    • Kim_Garnett:

      I think its a wonderful thing, a truly American thing that people are willing to take a hit for other Americans. That fellow Americans are willing to make such a sacrifice for their country man.

    • 1 year ago
  • ArchDruid
  • foshea
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      foshea  
    • ArchDruid:

      I've spent a lot of time examining the US business model and the UK and other Healthcare models - and feel its unsustainable. However that's no excuse for Americans to go without health care. How about two very simple pieces of legislation, 1) only a doctor can make recommendations for healthcare (i.e. the insurance companies cannot direct doctors what to or not to do); second and this I feel is the most practical model for healthcare in the US, If you are working - you have to be provided with healthcare coverage (insurance) as part of your employment contract on a shared cost basis (lets say for arguements sake 80/20%); if a person is not working for what ever reason, the state provides a model of coverage that permits a basic level of access to health care.

      The concept of a savings account as was put forward over the last year or so is simply unworkable and clearly dreamed up by someone who never visited a doctor in his or her life. How much do they think one investigation of illness costs? I know my insurance was billed over 7,000 USD 20 years ago to tell me there was nothing wrong with me.

    • 1 year ago
  • KSirys
    • +2
      KSirys  
    • ArchDruid:

      "If they can do it in Britain, Japan and other countries, why isn't it possible in the richest country in the world?" Great question ArchDruid, but the answer is simple... the corporations in this country are not allowing it.

      The current government doesn't have the balls and they get paid handsomely to stay quiet.

    • 1 year ago
  • artemis6
    • 0
      artemis6  
    • ArchDruid:

      It is not possible simply because the military industrial complex does not want to share funding with other players . The enemy is right here in our own house as this post points out . We COULD cut back on "defense" , if we cared about each other and weren't so fearful of terrorists "out there" . This "every man for himself" mentality is killing us .

    • 1 year ago
  • artemis6
  • ArchDruid
  • artemis6
  • Funky
    • Funky [removed]  
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  • twinite
  • Funky
  • twinite
    • +2
      twinite  
    • Funky:

      The ONLY draw back I can see to the single payer system is the reduction in the amount of money the insurance companies will be able to rip us off for. As it stands, they make out BIG time.

      ...and thanks my friend, it's great to see you too :)

    • 1 year ago
  • twinite
    • +8
      twinite  
    • The US ranks 37th in healthcare....37th. Ahead of us are

      Rank Country
      1 France
      2 Italy
      3 San Marino
      4 Andorra
      5 Malta
      6 Singapore
      7 Spain
      8 Oman
      9 Austria
      10 Japan
      11 Norway
      12 Portugal
      13 Monaco
      14 Greece
      15 Iceland
      16 Luxembourg
      17 Netherlands
      18 United Kingdom
      19 Ireland
      20 Switzerland
      21 Belgium
      22 Colombia
      23 Sweden
      24 Cyprus
      25 Germany
      26 Saudi Arabia
      27 United Arab Emirates
      28 Israel
      29 Morocco
      30 Canada
      31 Finland
      32 Australia
      33 Chile
      34 Denmark
      35 Dominica
      36 Costa Rica

      Why is this okay with ANYONE ??

    • 1 year ago
  • Funky
  • twinite
  • coolplanet
    • +1
      coolplanet  
    • twinite:

      There is a profound wisdom in America.
      Native Medicine People.
      While they didn't do so well with the arrival of severely diseased Europeans hundreds of years ago I nonetheless think they hold the cure for this massive mess we've made.

    • 1 year ago
  • foshea
    • 0
      foshea  
    • twinite:

      I'm surprised that Israel is # 28 (no I'm not Israeli or Jewish), they have amazing health care on a basis something like the Social Security Model.

    • 1 year ago
  • xena
    • +4
      xena  
    • I don't get it. Why wouldn't one want everyone to have health care if not for purely selfish reasons? It just doesn't make sense. Beyond the expense of paying emergency care costs for those who don't have health care, I'd want my neighbor to be healthy so they don't pass their crap on to me. With the ability to move around the world as we can now, there are little to no buffer zones in a pandemic.

    • 1 year ago
  • Funky
    • Funky [removed]  
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  • CCorsair
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      CCorsair  
    • Funky:

      I am not against health care reform I am against forced Insurance and this bill as it written and how addressees the wrong people as being the problem. If you can't see that you just being blind to who is to blame high medical cost and companies that run the hospitals and medical groups. . A person i know who advise all the insurance companies last year told all carrier to bail of covering medical as it will mathematically destroy the industry as the hospitals are doubling cost and will be over charging more to everyone and not be healed accountable for the cost and the insurance companies will have to cover more and more cost and raise rates no matter what Obama thinks the cost will go to the point only a few can afford so in the end this bill cure nothing the current or future problem of health care for all. The cost of what is being charge need to be changed .. in the new local a young girl who was her college passed out take to the ER .. she said she saw no Doctor but was charge over @k for just sitting in the ER where they claim she saw a Doctor and she said no and she waited hours and not one saw her or ran test but vital.. no insurance company charger her this was HOSPITAL which under this bill is at no fault So I noting against real health care reforms as log as they aimed at the ready problem and not burden on the backs of ever one in the the US for the 100 years I mean do you really feel it right to burden people and punish them for not wanting this ?

      CC

    • 1 year ago
  • SFirman
    • +1
      SFirman  
    • Funky:

      Everything you say is true. I would have prefered single payer or the public option. I accept what President Obama got for us. I don't understand why the Republicans in Congress want to repeal it. They have goverment health care. yes, people are duped by disinformation. America is better then that. All should have health care!

    • 1 year ago
  • pawms1
    • +5
      pawms1  
    • While Obama's health care reform may not have been the perfect answer to the health care woes for millions of uninsured Americans or those ineligible for health care insurance coverage due to pre-existing conditions, neither Republicans or health insurance companies seem to give a damn about solving this problem as long as they can receive campaign donations or profit from the perils of other less fortunate Americans!

      I don't see too many elected officials giving up the health care coverage they enjoy that their constitiuents pay for but are denied to them! Go ahed, repeal Obamacare, and keep paying the ever-increasing and unregulated cost of health care insurance you might enjoy today but may not tomorrow when you need it because of a pre-existing condition!

    • 1 year ago
  • JonRaymond
  • SFirman
    • +1
      SFirman  
    • JonRaymond:

      I agree. If Obama care is repealed theres' should be repealed also. Let them go to big Ins. and pay top dollar.If any of there family has a pre-existing condition---tough luck.

    • 1 year ago
  • AlGoreRhythm
    • 0
      AlGoreRhythm  
    • If someone didn't have to pay for it, I'd be all for it. To think that adding 40 million people and have it save money is pure ignorance. There is no way around it.

    • 1 year ago
  • SFirman
  • JonRaymond
    • +3
      JonRaymond  
    • AlGoreRhythm:

      When you insure people it saves money because they get preventative care and avoid costly ER trips. This is just a matter of good business sense. It is proven to work in every other country. Even Cuba has better health care than the US for all its people. The US ranks 52nd in fairness (below Cuba) and 37th in overall care.

      We have great care, but only for those who can pay for it. So the rich who get their care and want to keep it for themselves do so at the expense of killing 45,000 fellow Americans every year. How patriotic is that?

    • 1 year ago
  • Itsbatman_Durr
  • JonRaymond
    • +2
      JonRaymond  
    • Itsbatman_Durr:

      What makes you think rich people work?

      Do you feel the same way about fire and police protection. If you want to keep safe in your home, why not pay for it like the rich do? What about epidemics? Do you want to see people dying in the streets of America for lack of healthcare? Do you want to live in a third world country?

      How about highways? Should only rich people get highways? Libraries? Sewage? Public transit?

    • 1 year ago
  • Itsbatman_Durr
    • -3
      Itsbatman_Durr  
    • JonRaymond:

      yes i feel that the only people deserving of any of those creature comforts are the wealthy, because they earned their position and also without them there wouldnt be jobs for the little people

    • 1 year ago
  • Varex_Sythe
    • +3
      Varex_Sythe  
    • Itsbatman_Durr:

      "because they earned their position"

      Bullshit. Not all people who are wealthy earned that wealth. Numerous wealthy people gained that wealth by screwing over other people not by working hard and earning it.

      "and also without them there wouldnt be jobs for the little people"

      Also bullshit. If we wouldn't have jobs for the little people without wealthy people, then why the hell are we having a job crisis now? Jobs are provided by people who have resources, this is true, but that does not mean that the people who provide jobs are wealthy nor does it mean that people who are wealthy are the sole providers of jobs.

    • 1 year ago
  • foshea
    • +2
      foshea  
    • Itsbatman_Durr:

      I'm afraid even an examination of recent US history kills this arguement. My favourite example is how much California tax payers are coughing up for the LA new subway system? Billions... Hang on there - I recall there was a sub-way system in LA in the 1950's - what happened to it? It was bought up by General Motors and Firestone tire company and shut down to force people to buy more cars and tires. Ironically one has gone to the wall and the other bailed out by the tax payer. If this forms an acceptable business model for you as a tax payer (its your money after all) - then by all means keep it up.

    • 1 year ago
  • JonRaymond
    • +1
      JonRaymond  
    • Itsbatman_Durr:

      "little people?" How demeaning. Without the working people there would be no one to pawn off of for their government corporate welfare bailouts. The Wall Street rich are generally incapable of turning a profit by producing products that people actually need. No, what they produce are debts and cons to screw people out of their money. They brought this country to its knees in 2008, destroyed what was left of capitalism, and continue to go down that road. They have government mandated laws to force people to pay exorbitant health care insurance premiums, while denying those same people care when the claims come in, so that they can make profits. Being rich does not indicate a person is deserving or has a work ethic. It indicates the exact opposite is more likely the case.

    • 1 year ago
  • artemis6
    • 0
      artemis6  
    • JonRaymond:

      That has been my experience , except in rare cases . My sis was a private nurse for a family of 3rd generation mining tycoons . A revolting group of people . Stupid and selfish do-nothings beyond what i had ever imagined possible .

    • 1 year ago
  • AlGoreRhythm
  • diabolical44
    • +1
      diabolical44  
    • AlGoreRhythm:

      unprovable? I could prove it in one picture. a construction worker with a shovel digging for new train tracks. or building a new bus station or terminal. do those jobs not count? conservatives have such a morbid aversion to facts.

    • 1 year ago
  • AlGoreRhythm
  • JonRaymond
    • 0
      JonRaymond  
    • AlGoreRhythm:

      Obama is a Republican shill. He tells the left what they want to hear and then gives the right what they want to get. The healthcare that passed is an insurance company profit protection and profit enhancement act (attrib. Wendel Potter).

    • 1 year ago
  • artemis6
  • Itsbatman_Durr
  • JonRaymond
  • foshea
  • judithann
    • +4
      judithann  
    • I don't have health care, I'm 62 yrs old, my husband was laid off 2 yrs ago, we
      were forced to "retire" so now we get SS, not our plan. I totally believe in being
      healthy thru herbal supplements, eating healthy & yes I eat meat. I try to not go nuts about this. Just common sense. Exercise helps as well. So far it seems to
      be working, I don't get colds or flu, my dr. gets a blood test every 6 mths to ck
      my thyroid and cholesteral, he works with me about charging for office visit.
      So if i got cancer, or any life threatening illness, I too would probably die because of no health care, what would i do if even with my "healthy lifestyle"
      I have a heart attack??? I'm to young for medicare.
      I do wish that pharmaceuticals would stop telling people that herbal supps
      don't work. Imagine what would happen if people started to get healthy,
      not need meds as much.
      IF, the numbers are correct and some of those people had tried a healthier
      lifestyle, would they still have died??? I almost can believe those numbers
      because of the economy.

    • 1 year ago
  • JonRaymond
    • +1
      JonRaymond  
    • judithann:

      Good points. America has a very unhealthy lifestyle with fast "cancerous" food. No doubt this is happening due to the profit incentive in America's corporate profit making hospital and health insurance industries. Only in America.

    • 1 year ago
  • artemis6
    • 0
      artemis6  
    • judithann:

      Herbal sups. DO work , but , sometimes you have an accident , a fall , and need a doctor . In ancient china people would pay their healer , as long as they stayed HEALTHY , when they got sick , they didn't have to . Thus herbal medicine was created in China .

    • 1 year ago
  • Schnookums
    • +3
      Schnookums  
    • Whether or not you could ever statistically correlate a significant number of people dieing to their lack of insurance (given the EMTALA), the fact remains that healthcare in this country is mostly driven by profit.

      I would like to know how people who defend this healthcare-for-profit model square their objections to the idea of a single payer healthcare system with The Act for the Relief of Sick and Disabled Seamen of 1798?

      http://www­.history.n­ih.gov/res­earch/down­loads/1Sta­tL605.pdf

      Keep in mind that the Fifth Congress, lead by Thomas Jefferson and still many of the Founding Fathers, were quite aware of the Constituti­on's intents and limitation­s, including the President that signed the act, John Adams.

      The Act basically collected premiums for the purpose of funding a government­-run healthcare system, The Marine Hospitals of the United States for the benefit of privately and publicly employed seamen.

      Not that there wasn't objections at the time:

      http://mem­ory.loc.go­v/cgi-bin/­ampage?col­lId=llac&f­ileName=00­8/llac008.­db&recNum=­86

      But the majority at the time decided this was the best system, and it filled a urgent and pertinent need for care for a vital worker in early America's labor market. They concluded then, as we should now, that a healthy worker is vital to economic growth, and that the least expensive method of obtaining this goal should be employed.

    • 1 year ago
  • lifestudentno83
    • +1
      lifestudentno83  
    • People are dying because of the lack of health care? Quick Tea Partiers... Tell me how I should be thinking about this!

      [Sarcasm Insurance.]

      This is America... People don't watch the "News". They watch Jersey Shore and blame the president for the ills of society (which is caused by the capitalist corporations, the industrial prison and military industrial complexes).

      Please, someone give me a reason to keep caring about our self-destructive race of humans.

    • 1 year ago
  • Throowrocks
  • JonRaymond
  • CCorsair
    • 0
      CCorsair  
    • the bill Obama made up is the wrong fix people ..it need to start at the Admin level IE it the bean counters at that run the hospitals and Medical groups and the Pharmaceutical companies not the insurance companies.. The insurance companies are paying what the medical groups charge.. look at you fracking bills it those people that need to gone after .. forcing people with unconstitutional mandate to have medical insurance is wrong it is unconstitutional and will be tossed. go after the real people who are killing people not those who have not funds . States are broke the US gov is broke we have not money and you want to million on free health care that isn't free and more will die as the care will be sub care and poor . The biggest lie is that your kids can stay on you insurance .. not true on all carriers if your policy is written the wrong way you don't get to have your kid to stay on.. I talked to the IRS and they say teh rule they got was that if you do not buy into the healthcare insurance you will be dinged on you taxes if you do not pay it goes up .. once it reaches over $600 you will be taken to court and you assets taken to pay it .. so what they going to do with homeless people ? what about the million with jobs and losing their homes?
      how can they on EDD buy into a health plan that in Calif alone will cost more than get to cover basic care.. the bill cover the wrong problem and the insurance companies would go broke covering 100 of thousands of people if the have to pay out unlimited coverage IE if go in for $10k surgery but it turn into $200K they have to pay.. how long do the insurance company pay this if you just paying $50 an month ? not going to happen the math said they would go broke fast paying out billions in claims .. this will do 2 things wipe out many insurance carriers and those left will have to raise rates and make coverage higher .. I did note that some of the insurance companies that sign on to teh bill but only if the bill forced everyone one to buy insurance and they mean everyone. so some private companies will profit from this bill ..hmm sound like no matter what it look like the healthcae bill is nothing but miss direction and lies and is about Medical group profiting and some core groups of PRIVATE insurance groups.. so it bad and need big re-write or to be just dropped and start over ..this isn't healhcare it just another big spending bill that in the end will kill more people .

      Read the dam bill then go look at you last bill from the doctor or hospital see who is charging you then look at the HC bill again.. wrong fix people that simple..

      CC
      in the word of real journalist Good night and Good luck .. Edward R Morrow

    • 1 year ago
  • Throowrocks
    • -2
      Throowrocks  
    • Who did you work for? What was the story you were not permitted to investigate? Who was your boss that denied the American people the truth?

    • 1 year ago
  • Throowrocks
    • -2
      Throowrocks  
    • Well how do you know they died? Did you get these stats from the same government agency that tells us about jobs that have been "saved"?

    • 1 year ago
  • Throowrocks
  • JonRaymond
  • JonRaymond
  • Throowrocks
  • JonRaymond
    • +2
      JonRaymond  
    • Throowrocks:

      That's exactly my point. Who are they? The news ignores them. I know they exist. I hear their stories. Some of them are talked about second hand in my film. But dead people tell no tales. So it's hard for them to speak up is it not?

      However, industrious news reporters would have the means and talent to seek them out. But these reporters work for the corporate rich oligarchs. They aren't permitted to do that.

    • 1 year ago
  • tcat
  • Throowrocks
    • -3
      Throowrocks  
    • tcat:

      I work in the construction trade and i personal know three people who have collected unemployment for close too two years and have not once looked for a job. they will not until benefits run out!

    • 1 year ago
  • tcat
    • +3
      tcat  
    • Throowrocks:

      I work in a white collar job and know many people that have lost their jobs so companies can make their CEOs richer and have been unemployed for 1,2,3 years with no end in sight. so who is the mucher the unemployed or the CEO?

    • 1 year ago
  • JonRaymond
    • +1
      JonRaymond  
    • tcat:

      In my film I question a number of tea party people. Not that question about news media. The tea party isn't the news. They have their own agenda, which (as my film shows http://gothealthcaremovie.com) is to keep America's best heath care for themselves at the expense of letting 45,000 fellow America's die and letting 62% of fellow Americans go bankrupt due to healthcare debt. No other country has healthcare debt. Only in America.

    • 1 year ago
  • JonRaymond
  • CommonSensenBda
    • 0
      CommonSensenBda  
    • Throowrocks:

      Guess because you know three, the other 14 million are just like them, aren't they? Maybe you can encourage the Republicans to pass a Goerber's Law that states that ALL the unemployed should be imprisoned in the FEMA concentration camps built by KBR and they can receive the Final Solution to keep them from being a drain on the rest of America's resources.

    • 1 year ago
  • CommonSensenBda
    • 0
      CommonSensenBda  
    • JonRaymond:

      Americans voted for the current system which takes advantage of them. They deserve to enjoy the fruits of their votes. Only the rich deserve not to pay taxes or not to be subject to America's laws. THEY are the only ones who's voice should be heard in the political areana. The constitution should be re-written to accurately state "a country run for the rich, elected by the rich for the sole benefit of the rich."

    • 1 year ago
  • CommonSensenBda
    • -5
      CommonSensenBda  
    • Stop whining, you whiny @sses, you wanted "smaller" and fiscally responsible government, you got it last November. Reap what you have sown. Wal-Mart has a cheap health care plan; $250 for a revolver and a dollar for a bullet.

    • 1 year ago
  • JonRaymond
  • cicly
    • +2
      cicly  
    • dog- eat-dog mentality. yes sir, that's the way to go. and make sure the stats are so unbelievable that people actually believe it's not true.( even though it is) then there's the truly pathetic- "death is a part of life. "

    • 1 year ago
  • kennymotown
  • bailey78
    • -1
      bailey78  
    • I know it sounds cold but people die every day. some from hunger others in car wrecks still others by their own hands. death is a big part of life.

    • 1 year ago
  • JonRaymond
  • bailey78
  • mozartfx
    • -6
      mozartfx  
    • Phony numbers for easily duped morons. Do you people actually believe these lies. They are trying to scare you, to make you see evil in your own countrymen and women. Make people believe your political enemies are evil, step 1. Tell them only the gov't can fix it, step 2......and so on. Don't be a sucker!

    • 1 year ago
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