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Mubarak resigns, hands power to military

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GONE-GONE-GONE !

By PAUL SCHEMM and MAGGIE MICHAEL, Associated Press – 8 mins ago

CAIRO – Egypt's vice president says Hosni Mubarak has resigned as president and handed control to the military.
Car horns were heard around Cairo in celebration after Vice President Omar Suleiman made the announcement on national TV on Friday.
"In these difficult circumstances that the country is passing through, President Hosni Mubarak has decided to leave the position of the presidency," Suleiman said. He has commissioned the armed forces council to direct the issues of the state."
THIS IS A BREAKING NEWS UPDATE. Check back soon for further information. AP's earlier story is below.
CAIRO (AP) — Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak has stepped down and handed power to the military.

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  • Demtothecore
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    • @congoboy:

      oh contraire mon ami, there is nothing in this world that scares me. life is to be revered and enjoyed to its fullest and when the end comes i will relish in that as well. i hope i dod not insinuate that i personally wanted to slit your throat as i am a pacifist unless provoked. i was referring to those you wish to defend. and your opinion does matter, maybe not to me but its does. so you are telling me that your views are not biased? everyones views are biased. if you do not believe that then you are a fool. fox is biased cnn is biased for christs sake. what i would like you to tell me though is what you believe i say is untrue and what is it i have said that is not fact? tell me, i am willing to admit when proven wrong but i prefer evidence not biased unfounded rhetoric. please provide me with the details and if i am wrong and you are right i will apologize and kiss your feet
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      Tell you what. Since you seem to have an issue with what I have posted on this message board do me a favor. POINT OUT ONE THING THAT I HAVE SAID THAT IS BIAS AND WRONG. REMEMBER I AM ASKING FOR ONLY ONE THING. As for you slitting my throat????? ARE you high? Where did I insinuate such a thing? I asked you to slit yours since you see the world as a dark place etc etc. So again since you object to my objectivity then show me where I am wrong. Don't just play keyboard tough guy being the pacifist as you describe yourself. Show us what you have!

    • 1 year ago
  • Nancy_J_Powell
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    • Demtothecore:

      Please do not let congoboy get to you..... he is an immature young man with little world experience.....and his reasoning shows youth......I would say a young republican from reading some of his postings, if you look down on this thread you will see I spent some time with him earlier......his intellect is not polished and shows again youth....I think he wants to be a prick but dose have some good qualities when confronted....my suggestion is take him with a grain of salt......mentor him with your knowledge......maybe he can even learn from you....together we might even get him to look left :)

    • 1 year ago
  • Demtothecore
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    • Nancy_J_Powell:

      Nancy oh no I would NEVER let someone like him get to me. I do not let those who are misinformed by zealots who have an agenda against a duly elected President fill their heads with very invalid points. Then use stupid insults as misdirection to skirt around the issues as a means to avoid answer to declarations which they cannot defend. NO WAY. Dealing with him and others like him is fun to me because all they are doing is making themselves look more ignorant, but it is such a shame because if this is the future of this great nation then we have a serious problem.

    • 1 year ago
  • congoboy
  • Demtothecore
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    • congoboy:

      What question? You are the one who came up with the world is a dark place blah blah nonsense and I called you out on it and asked you if those telling you the world is a dark place is living as such. They have you scared with their words and you believe them but have you not noticed they are not living by their own words? They are being paid millions to rile up a group of end of times believers who will and have drank the cool aid and ready and willing to end it while they aren't. These folks don't care about you or what you do as long as they get their money from their corporate masters and live the do as I say not as I do mantra so again keep with your BS and I guess I will keep with mine. So please take time out to look at who these people really are and who are their puppet masters. They don't give but they take, They don't give a damn about human suffering but will be quick to talk about GOD. They believe in the death penalty but will refuse a woman the right to terminate pregnancies no matter the circumstance of how the woman became pregnant but will be the first one to give their daughters that right. So again what is your point and again point out what I have said that is incorrect. I am asking for one example, and since I am wrong that should be very easy for you.

    • 1 year ago
  • congoboy
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    • Demtothecore:

      dude, nothing scares me but i agree with you on your take on corporate masters and the media. ALL media outlets have an agenda and so does big business, and generally its not in our best interest. but one doesnt have to look far to find darkness in the world and i dont need media or religion to point it out. take n. korea for example., or iran, or any number of countries controlled by an iron fisted secular or religious figure head. china? certain soviet countries. even the good old u s of a has a dark side. i prefer not to dwell on it as i am generally a pretty positive person. i just make it a point to point these things out to folks that either ignore reality or refuse to recognize it. god does have a place in this world and if mankind would quit misrepresenting him then we might see a better integrated planet someday.

    • 1 year ago
  • Demtothecore
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    • congoboy:

      First of all I am NOT A DUDE! That being said read you post again and see just how conflicted you are. DO you live in N. Korea,Iran, and China who you describe as being ruled by an iron fisted secular or religious figure head and do you know how much money the US owes China with the war funding complements of Bush? I am guessing you don't but try this. What gives us the right in the US to dictate to these countries their political affiliation and why is it our business to change their way of government? It is up to the people of these countries to initiate the change because quite frankly this country cannot take on another mission of change for another when we have our own issues to deal with. Look at what is happening in the middle east and to the north. They the people are waking up and doing what they feel necessary but remember a drowning man will clutch onto a straw and Hamas in Palestine is a fine example. What we need to do is brighten our future, stop funding dictatorships and puppet governments who are oppressing their own. Years ago Reagan had the opportunity to force the hand of the Apartheid regime in South Africa and did he/they? No it took other countries and the oppressed to force their hand and even though they still have their issues they are doing much better without our help. So again stop listening to those who are preaching the end times but are living high off the hog because they are being paid to fool those who they themselves are laughing at calling idiots. Those folks don't care about you, me or our families and feel it is their duty to keep us at a certain station in life and that is to be their underlings. If you do believe in GOD then believe there is a plan and us humans having freewill have the opportunity to make the changes we believe will better our lives so stop depending on obvious racist, angry, lying hypocrite, zealots to make you believe this is a dark world. It is wonderful if you allow yourself to see the beauty in it.

    • 1 year ago
  • congoboy
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    • Demtothecore:

      wow, you must have gotten me confused with someone else. i dont recall ever stating anything about intervening in another country's business. other than showing or expressing support for those who value freedom and democracy i'm all for butting out. if they ask for our help thats another matter. it is unfortunate that reagan seemingly ignored the apartheid problem but maybe as with all presidents he knew something us commoners didnt. it is also unfortunate that even though an oppressive white minority ran south africa they did a better job than the current regime. south africa used to be the bread basket of the nation with immense agriculture. raising enough produce to not only feed the locals but plenty left over for imports. now all the white farmers have either been murdered or run off land that is now farrow, barren, and unused. more starvation and an even more oppressive government, gangs, mobsters, and war lords are the rule of the day. now im not sayin apartheid was a good thing but it seems things and people were in some ways better off. i dont take the end of times preachers too serious, my belief is god hasent given up on us yet. some idiots think the mayan calendar marks the end if time, i think they ran out of rock myself. my beliefs are my own, i dont pay attention to obvious racist, angry, lying hypocrite, zealots. so sorry about the gender mis-identification, in this day and age its sometimes difficult to tell and besides your avatar is kinda asexual, although in some circles everyone is a dude. we seem to have more in common than not so i think we got lost in the sea of each others rhetoric. peace beautiful!

    • 1 year ago
  • Mr_Brainwash
  • Demtothecore
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    • congoboy:

      Don't worry about my avatar. I don't have the time to put anything there so believe what you would like. But on a serious note, it is either your reasoning/ comprehending abilities are insufficient or you are trying to bait me. WHERE in my post did I ever accuse you of saying anything about our country intervening in other countries? I used it as an example of the standard way of doing business by administrations in the past which only gives the lead up to some of the crisis we face today so again if you are truly confused try reading and understanding what is being said or if you cannot step away. I do not have the time or energy to help you understand. As for the South Africa issue. ARE you serious? If the present regime is being undermined then how can anything be done and you claim that same oppressive regime was the "BREAD BASKET" of the nation!!!!! On whose back did they use to be the bread basket? And for them to be run off why not? Years of oppression will make the oppressed angry and want revenge; it is called being human. Your argument reminds me of something Beck said last month about blacks who during slavery did not mind being seen as 3/5 of a human and slaves, because it did good for them and also slavery began on a good note but it was the north that made it something abhorrent. Look it will do you good to do a bit of research for yourself and top relying on those with an agenda to tell you about their version of history past and present. Do not allow them to make you into of their playthings because too many times they are caught not knowing they are still on mic calling their followers idiots and sheep.

    • 1 year ago
  • congoboy
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    • Demtothecore:

      you might want to do some of your own research instead of just parroting what all your leftylib friends say over beer and cigarettes...Since capturing the world's imagination in 1994, this country has seen itself as exceptional, an African oasis. Now, for the first time, polls show that a plurality of people thinks the country is headed in the wrong direction.

      "People thought this was not Africa," said Simanga Khumalo, a professor of religion who grew up in the black township of Soweto in the 1970s, when it was a cauldron of anti-apartheid resistance.

      "People looked at our economy and businesses, and we look like an advanced society. But this is Africa. We are no different. Our leaders also love power."

      In many ways, class barriers have replaced the old racial divisions. Despite robust economic growth under former President Thabo Mbeki, unemployment has risen to 38 percent from 32 percent in 1994. The number of jobless has doubled. Despite one of the largest welfare systems in the world, more than half of blacks live below the poverty line, compared with about 10 percent of the rest of the country.

      In Alexandra township, just outside Johannesburg, Joyce Mlambo can recall the euphoria of 1994, when she stood in line for hours to vote ANC and danced with her neighbors late into the night after the results were announced. Mlambo, now 50, expected that a black-led government would elevate her from the one-room shack where she raised seven children.

      Today, she still earns $2 a day at her termite-eaten fruit stall and survives on welfare payments.

      "Initially, I was really happy. We all were happy," Mlambo said, wiping her rough hands on her secondhand T-shirt. "Nothing is happening for us here. I feel betrayed."

      When she rides the bus into Johannesburg, through a row of ritzy suburbs, she sees a class of people who look like her from the neck up, but who wear smart clothes, shiny shoes and expensive-looking watches.

      "I don't relate to those people," Mlambo grunted.

      Read more: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2009/04/19/66232/fifteen-years-after-apartheid.html#i...

      The South African government have admitted that 90% of farms redistributed to South Africa's black population from white farmers are not productive

      Land reform minister Gugile Nkwinti warned the land might be repossessed if the farms continued to fail.

      Almost 60,000 sq km (23,000 sq miles) have been redistributed under policies aimed at benefiting black people who were allegedly left impoverished by apartheid.

      Unlike in Zimbabwe to the north the land was bought from white farmers who sold up voluntarily.

      Sensitive issue

      The SA government had set a target of 2014 to redistribute one-third of white-owned land to the black majority.

      But Nkwinti acknowledged that the deadline would not be kept.

      He said the focus would now shift to helping the black farmers make their land productive.

      "The farms - which were active accruing revenue for the state - were handed over to people, and now more than 90% of those are not functional," he said.

      "They are not productive, and therefore the state loses the revenue. We cannot afford to go on like that... No country can afford that."

      At the end of apartheid in 1994 almost 90% of land was owned by the white community, which made up less than 10% of the population.

      Land reform is a sensitive issue in South Africa and has been brought into sharp focus by the decline of agriculture in neighbouring Zimbabwe, where many white commercial farmers have been violently evicted. While worries about a Zuma-led government accelerating the post-apartheid land reforms program may be overblown, few will argue with the fact that South Africa’s commercial agriculture is now at the real risk of knee-jerk legislation. On the one hand, South Africa can see how badly Zimbabwe has faltered in its plans to transfer productive land from white farmers to impoverished blacks. On other hand, without some form of substantive land distribution, South Africa cannot even hope to fight unemployment, poverty and increasing restlessness.White farmers 'being wiped out'
      Over 3,000 have been killed since 1994. Now the ANC is accused of fanning the hate.
      Dan McDougall in Ceres, Western Cape

      THE gunmen walked silently through the orchard. Skirting a row of burnt-out tyres, set ablaze months earlier to keep the budding fruit from freezing, they drew their old .38 revolvers.

      Inside his farmhouse Pieter Cillier, 57, slept with his 14-year-old daughter Nikki at his side. His 12-year-old son JD was having a sleepover with two teenagers in an adjoining room.

      As the intruders broke in, the farmer woke. He rushed to stop them, only to be shot twice in the chest.

      In his death throes he would have seen his killers and then his children standing over him, screaming and crying.
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      The attackers, who were drug addicts, simply disappeared into the night. Cillier’s murder, at Christmas, was barely reported in the local press. It was, after all, everyday news.

      Death has stalked South Africa’s white farmers for years. The number murdered since the end of apartheid in 1994 has passed 3,000.

      In neighbouring Zimbabwe, a campaign of intimidation that began in 2000 has driven more than 4,000 commercial farmers off their land, but has left fewer than two dozen dead.

    • 1 year ago
  • congoboy
  • Mr_Brainwash
  • congoboy
  • Demtothecore
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    • congoboy:

      Yes I had a good laugh at your post. You do really believe the prosperity of those who enslave and deny others of their human rights. as slave labor is just, as long as the oppressors make the bottom line figure? Any means necessary? South Africa has had decades of oppression and only came out of the stupor less than 20 years ago yet you expect those who have pillaged the resources of the country would get a conscience and give back? And name one country whose inhabitants have been persecuted for so many years called the 20th century slavery would jump into prosperity after such a change as what took place in South Africa? You cannot be serious and why should I depend on the opinions of people who you produce as evidence that they deserved to be kept at that station in life, could still suffer from mental slavery, lack of education and the Stockholm syndrome all rolled into one to produce this type of lack of mental strength to think for themselves? Son again stop drinking the cool-aid. You are making as much sense as a circus animal programed to perform by their masters. If that is the way you think then you are indeed in need of serious deprogramed. You are damaged! So please stop because the more you type the more you expose your true feelings and why you have the mindset of those rabid right wingers who feels it their God given right to lead and have those deemed inferior to be led. OH and please don't tell me there has not been outside influence into the political discord of African countries especially those rich in minerals. Ask Margaret Thatcher's son about his actions and being caught trying to supply arms to cause upheavals because OIL was found in that country and the best way to get to the oil was to create havoc. OH while you are at it look into Sudan. And remember to read several articles and try to pick sense from nonsense. Learn something.

    • 1 year ago
  • congoboy
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    • Demtothecore:

      i dont know about you but im pretty sure we can pin all this crime on bush!!! According to Wikipedia, the following is the most accurate description of the cruel form of murder that has been associated with the despicable name of Winnie Mandela:

      Necklacing (sometimes called necklace) is the practice of brutal and cruel execution, carried out by forcing a rubber tire, filled with gasoline, around a victim's chest and arms, and setting it on fire. The victim may take up to 20 minutes to die, suffering severe burns in the process

      According to Wikipedia:

      The practice was often carried out in the name of the ANC, and was even implicitly endorsed by Winnie Mandela, then-wife of the imprisoned Nelson Mandela and a senior member of the ANC, although the ANC officially condemned the practice.

      One of the highest profile cases was that of a young girl, MakiSkhosana, who was necklaced in July 1985
      “Moloko said her sister was burned to death with a tyre around her neck while attending the funeral of one of the youths.

      Her body had been scorched by fire and some broken pieces of glass had been inserted into her vagina, Moloko told the committee.

      Moloko added that a big rock had been thrown on her face after she had been killed. A controversial activist, she is popular among her supporters, who refer to her as the 'Mother of the Nation', yet reviled by others, mostly due to her alleged involvement in several human rights abuses, including the 1989 kidnap of 14-year old ANC activist Stompie Moeketsi, who was later murdered...Murder Most Foul.
      Date Posted: Sunday 17-May-2009

      [This is one of the old but important stories from the original AfricanCrisis website that I am converting on to the new site, in the new format. I must just make a few comments now, because in America to this day they misrepresent the truth about Nelson Mandela.

      Just the other day I saw that in Hollywood they launched "Nelson Mandela day" which it seems they want to turn into a world-wide holiday. Then I had to listen to the Hollywood stars talking the biggest load of complete nonsense and trash imaginable about Nelson Mandela. It shows you they don't know a single thing about Mandela and they revere him as a God. One of the remarks by someone in Hollywood was that Nelson Mandela spent all his time quietly in jail and how we he bore it and that when he came out he was so forgiving. Well, the Hollywood version of Nelson Mandela's life is a lie. In Nelson Mandela's autobiography, "Long Walk to Freedom", he describes how, while he was in jail he was still meeting with people from his organisation and were plotting acts of terrorism and the overthrow of the White Govt from prison. (Oh, and prison could not have been all that bad, because on one occasion he personally requested to see the then President PW Botha, who then agreed to it. PW Botha told me later, when I met him face to face, that this meeting had been requested by Mandela and not by Botha. PW told me he had no particular interest in meeting Mandela, but when Mandela made the request he agreed to it). I doubt life in prison was so hard and miserable as they try to depict it because Mandela had visitors and they were smuggling information to him and he and his peers were plotting acts of terrorism and giving orders from inside jail.

      Even Nelson Mandela admits to being up to no good while in jail. In "Long Walk to Freedom", Nelson Mandela mentioned that he personally gave the go-ahead for the car bomb in Pretoria, which to this day, remains the largest act of terrorism that ever occurred on South African soil. The car bomb in Pretoria, which is depicted in some of the photos below, killed 2 white men whom I had previously worked with. I lived in Pretoria at the time, and it was sheer luck that I happened to leave early that morning to go on my annual leave. I couldn't believe my eyes that evening when I saw what had happened later that same day. Nelson Mandela personally signed off on the deaths of the people in that event in 1983. So much for the complete lie, as told to Americans, that Nelson Mandela is a man of peace.

      Nelson Mandela went to jail for acts of terrorism and for plotting to unleash 7,000 terrorists across South Africa. Nelson Mandela was tried in a court of law. Nelson Mandela and several conspirators were caught with firm, hard evidence as to what they intended doing. Prior to that Nelson Mandela had already committed acts of terrorism in South Africa. Nelson Mandela had already planted bombs in the same way Al Qaeda and other terrorists do. And, for the record, Nelson Mandela was given a proper trial. Among the documents at his trial was a document in his own handwriting called: "How to be a good communist". You can download the document here: FREE DOWNLOAD: Nelson Mandela's: How to be a Good Communist

      Hollywood continues to unashamedly support and court this old communist terrorist whose deeds are no different to those of Osama Bin Laden's Al Qaeda. Jan]Nelson and Winnie Mandela, once husband and wife, sure think alike. During Mandela's trialthey produced 90 pages of documents in his own handwriting. These documents all showed thathe really was nothing other than a communist terrorist. He never denied that he hadwritten it. One of those was entitled "How to be a Good Communist." In one documentMr Mandela addressed the issue of "sellouts". He advocated "cutting their noses off". As you cansee, from what happened in Zimbabwe one should not think such comments are intended as jokes. When these people speak of cutting parts off of living humans they're not joking. In Angola, the breasts were cut off living white women and other whites were sawed in half at a timbermill.

      Winnie Mandela once said that they would liberate South Africa with boxes of matches. Here are a few reminders that it wasn't a joke. More than 400 black South Africans were murdered in this way. They poured petrol on them, put a tyre around them, and with their sick macabre humourreferred to this as a "necklace." People were stoned, stabbed and burned alive.
      South Africa's shame: the rise of child rape

      As the global spotlight turns on the World Cup host, charities demand action as 200,000 children are assaulted a year
      Most of these people were black. Many people outside South Africa may remember seeing filmfootage of crowds of blacks engaging in the murder of these unlucky individuals. You neversaw white people murdering blacks like that because it never happened. But those people whoconducted those murders are now the government of South Africa. Like a third of the 200,000 children who are raped in South Africa every year, Fuzeka, 12, was attacked by a close relative. Staring straight ahead, she recounts how her father indecently assaulted her, and told her that when he slept with her he would use a condom as he is HIV positive.

      "I can't believe my father wants to sleep with me," said Fuzeka, close to tears. "I stay awake to be sure that he doesn't come into my room." Tears stream down 11-year-old Ntombizanele's face and drip on to the coarse blue wool of her school uniform. She looks down at the dirt floor of the corrugated iron shack which she shares with her mother and four siblings, and begins to speak.

      "I tried to get away, and begged them to leave me alone," she said, her voice wobbling. "He dragged me to the floor and did dirty things to me. I tried to get away, but I'd started bleeding. I was so scared."

      While Ntombi's story is disturbing, in South Africa it is also commonplace. The country has the world's highest incidence of rape; a girl born there today has a one in three chance of finishing school, and a one in two chance of being raped. The stories behind these statistics are explored in the documentary Dispatches: The Lost Girls of South Africa, to be screened next Sunday at 9pm on Channel 4... keep on believing, ohh yeah!

    • 1 year ago
  • congoboy
  • congoboy
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      congoboy  
    • congoboy:

      NAIROBI, 12 March 2010 (IRIN) - Government troops - the FARDC - in the Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC) are to blame for much of the epidemic of sexual violence in the east of the country, according to US and UN reports detailing war crimes and possible crimes against humanity by various groups there.

      FARDC is trying to rout the Forces démocratiques de libération du Rwanda (FDLR) and the Ugandan Lord's Resistance Army (LRA) from the Kivu region and Oriental province in eastern Congo, but operations have been criticized for their impact on civilians.

      “Armed groups such as the LRA and FDLR commit atrocities that amount to grave breaches of international humanitarian law and, in some instances, may also constitute crimes against humanity,” according to the UN experts.

      “In North Kivu, an assistance provider for victims of sexual violence recorded 3,106 cases between January and July 2009; half of these cases were perpetrated by FARDC members,” a group of seven UN experts said in their second report on the situation in DRC, submitted to the Security Council on 8 March.

      The Lord’s Resistance Army Disarmament and Northern Uganda Recovery Act of 2was the most widely supported Africa-specific U.S. legislation in recent history. It aims to eliminate the threat posed by a rebel group that has devastated central Africa for more than 20 years: killing and maiming civilians, abducting children and forcing them to fight or serve as sex slaves or “wives,” and looting villages. As required by the legislation, President Obama developed a strategy for ending the threat posed by the Lord’s Resistance Army, or LRA, and submitted it to Congress last November.

    • 1 year ago
  • Demtothecore
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    • congoboy:

      Your only mission here is to try to force feed others the same lies which you have been exposed to apparently at an early age. Using Wikkapedia and agreeing with the ends to a means where people are enslaved, denied their rights and used to benefit the financial gain of others is not a good place to be son. Frankly I feel sorry for you because it is a shame that in the year of 2011 people still do this type of mental damage to their kids as was obviously done to you. The more you post the more your image of a standard bearer of racism and keeping those who you feel are less than human improvised is showing. You have my pity and get help! The world is changing and the old ways is being rejected all over the world so you will be left behind with your type of thinking process. The old guard of bigotry is dying so do some self help and get your thought process right. I really feel sorry for you.

    • 1 year ago
  • congoboy
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    • Demtothecore:

      well you certainly chose the right avatar demtthecore. as a leftylib you have been brainwashed into believing many things that are untrue, such as any opposing view to your own automatically makes one a bigot. your wasted energies spent feeling sorry for me would be more productive aimed at yourself. i was not attempting to justify apartheid, just pointing out that in some ways life was better for alot of folks. whitey minority rule was nowhere as ruthless as the cut throats now in control of much of that country. but really if you go back even further in history, black on black crime has always existed on that continent. even back to the days of slave trading. if it werent for the ultimate in black on black crime there wouldnt have been a commodity for the slave ships to export to europe and the americas. it wasnt the crackers that went in and tore families apart by force to feed the slave trade. it was done by their own unfeeling people. and in the americas there were some 2000 black slave owners, imagine that. history can be quite an awakening experience!

    • 1 year ago
  • Demtothecore
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    • congoboy:

      What's wrong with you? Do you read what you have written and the insight they have provided to us on your political and social leanings? YouR writings are showING a very warped mind of someone who has been brain washed into blaming the victims of every evil acts done especially those you basically are calling inferior yet you refuse to read your own drivel and understand what you are defending. Years of oppression will not go away in a blink but before you recognize this you blame those oppressed for actions which are unspeakable but avoidable if the folks who were oppressed were given the right to educate themselves. You speak about me wearing rose colored glasses well yours are blinding pink because you are showing a side which is the very reason for justifications for enslavement and disenfranchisement of those who you obvious feel cannot take care of themselves hence you many comments and views on the ills of nations which are being destabilized by out side forces. This is is the same justifications used by the Europeans and even Germans to enslave others and again you are too warped to even understand. Boy please go back to your ilk and talk the nonsense you are used to talking amongst yourselves. You are not gaining traction here but is being laughed at and pitied at the same time. DAMN YOU HAVE ISSUES!

    • 1 year ago
  • congoboy
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    • Demtothecore:

      if you believe sharing truth and history is somehow wrong then you are the one with issues. i was neither advocating nor endorsing the practices i mentioned only pointing out that whitey aint the only evil in the world.

    • 1 year ago
  • Demtothecore
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    • congoboy:

      What truth do you speak of? The ones you get from Wikkipedia and the zealots who provide sheep like you their interpretation of history? I asked you day ago to provide ONE fact to prove I am lying / wrong on any of my posts and you have yet to provide it. You have skirted around an answer by bringing up unfounded examples which you feel vindicate those who have enslaved others and denied their rights with the end justify the means connotation then you come with "I am not in agreement with it but," nonsense You write about the turmoil after the abolishment of Apartheid knowing darn well how the blacks were treated for decades and the rape of the country by those who were forced out of power or do you think they had a change of heart and conscience and left the loot behind for the betterment of the people, yet you say you were against it. You write about rape and incest acting like incidents like that only happens in Africa when it is a very harsh problem right here at home or have you conveniently forgotten?How does that work and who are you trying to fool? Look kid it is better for you to find another forum to force feed other sheep and regale in your stories of things you don't know a darn thing about.

    • 1 year ago
  • congoboy
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      congoboy  
    • Demtothecore:

      of course south africa isnt the only place rape and incest takes place. theyre just the rape incest capital of the world... i am sorry your limited education allows you to refuse reality, facts, and the history of the world. it is typical of the leftylib mentality to deny and or rewrite history either when on the losing end of an argument or when it doesnt fit in their narrow view of political correctness. you guys really need to be more open minded. theres alot of ugly history out there and not all of it was due to the cracker, for instance...By 1860, the Cherokees had 4,600 slaves; the Choctaws, 2,344; the Creeks, 1,532; the Chickasaws, 975; and the Seminoles, 500. Some Indian slave owners were as harsh and cruel as any white slave master. Indians were often hired to catch runaway slaves; in fact, slave-catching was a lucrative way of life for some Indians, especially the Chickasaws.

      Black slavery in America usually evokes images of the antebellum South, but few realize that members of the Five Civilized Tribes--the Cherokees, Choctaws, Chickasaws, Creeks, and Seminoles--in Indian Territory, today's Oklahoma, also had slaves. Like their counterparts in the South, Indian slaveholders feared slave revolts. Those fears came true in 1842 when slaves in the Cherokee Nation made a daring dash for freedom. welcome to reality beautiful! btw what lies did i ever accuse you of? ive been so busy in my attempts to teach you a little history i forgot.

    • 1 year ago
  • alleyhopper
    • +1
      alleyhopper  
    • Do we really believe the revolution in Egypt has succeed completely ?

      Hosni Mubarak is lounging in comfort at a resort in Egypt and has a telephone.

      The entire regime must be totally dislodged and removed.......No exceptions.

      Only then will the Egyptian people be free to choose.

      Do not forget that control of the Suez Canal is at stake. To the US this will be the most important factor in the immediate post revolution.

      It's not over yet...................*¿*

    • 1 year ago
  • queens_professor
    • 0
      queens_professor  
    • salam ( peace )
      I'm happy for Egypt's freedom ( very happy )
      But being honest and only honest, I'm a bit angry on how they only decided to stand up and throw Mubarak out when they saw there enemies ( Tunisia ) scare there president and made him run out. So heck yay imma question myself asking if this was a call for
      freedom or " a simple game of victory. "?
      Any who, Long Live All Muslim Counties :D
      Peace & Blessings

    • 1 year ago
  • The_Pharaoh
  • bailey78
  • remanns
  • alleyhopper
    • 0
      alleyhopper  
    • bailey78:

      Hell yes! Don't really need an excuse to do so. If it's warm outside and raining lets just get naked and go play. The perfect way to end a day...except it's 14º outside right now.

      Bummerrrrrrrrrrr...................*¿*

    • 1 year ago
  • remanns
    • 0
      remanns  
    • I just " +^d " a WHOLE BUNCH of these posts. I did NOT take the time to annotate them all when I did so,....this time.

      Some craven spineless lazy sociopathec " hit-n-run assassin back-stab voter ",....QUITE OBVIOUSLY passed through here and " -Vd " ( voted down )without notation and signature, in a scatter-shot manner, half the post here !

      Soooooo, if they had a " - " net to the tally,....I " +^d " ( voted UP ),....all,....uhm,...but one,....of them.

      Such behavior is LAME LAME LAME !
      FOR SHAME SHAME SHAME !

    • 1 year ago
  • remanns
  • remanns
    • +2
      remanns  
    • remanns:

      Heh ! There goes the gutless wonder again ! HUZZAH !

      p.s. How bout you grow a pair,....come out of the closet, and take some responsibility for your actions ? Just a thought.

    • 1 year ago
  • galacticdubspazz
    • 0
      galacticdubspazz  
    • A series of dominoes for sure.

      Civilization was birthed from Mesopotamia, so too shall similar events echo throughout the world. In due time.

      Godspeed Egypt.

    • 1 year ago
  • The_Pharaoh
  • NC54
    • +1
      NC54  
    • To the brave people of Egypt:
      May Wisdom, Dignity, Honor and Peace be yours ...
      You have inspired the world!”

    • 1 year ago
  • cclark_productions
  • Seauvan
  • Nancy_J_Powell
  • Facepunch
  • Nancy_J_Powell
  • therealpixie
    • +3
      therealpixie  
    • I signed on here to discuss the wonderful events in Egypt, and the first thing I find is a kindergarten fight. Maybe I'll try back later.

    • 1 year ago
  • spotlighting
    • +1
      spotlighting  
    • therealpixie:

      I am so happy for the people of Egypt. It took a lot of organizing to do this.
      Hope they can proceed with the new governing as well.
      Too bad KO is not broadcasting this historic event

      GOOD JOB EGYPT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • 1 year ago
  • LivingPong
    • +6
      LivingPong  
    • We all need to get along, respect each others views and try not to get wrapped up in petty arguments.

      The people, united, will never be defeated.

      We should also try and remember that being the figurehead of a nation can't be an easy job. Leaders have to try and respect all viewpoints, create equality for all citizens, deal with disasters and unrest, while all the time trying to avoid becoming a tyrant. That can't be easy.

      Being a fascist is very unwise, though remaining a complete cynic doesn't help either. Maintaining a balance seems a very difficult task, especially with a profit driven "news" media barking madly in the background at every occasion.

      Real change comes from within each and every one of us. If you want to change the world, you must first change yourself.

    • 1 year ago
  • Demtothecore
    • +4
      Demtothecore  
    • @Persecuted:

      you think that fox is the only corporation in america or the world fucking the american people? well you sir are much more trusting, and much less educated than i am
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      You a self described idiot using such nasty language and calling me less educated is not only a joke but priceless. If the truth hurts then grow up and learn a few things before coming here and making a complete fool of yourself. It is your type of ignorance that FOX el al uses to keep you their target audience aka sheep fixated to their BS. SO again please do not start something you cannot end.

    • 1 year ago
  • ArchDruid
  • Nancy_J_Powell
  • Demtothecore
    • +2
      Demtothecore  
    • ArchDruid:

      Thank you for the info but I decided to reply this way because most folks do not scroll down to read replies and I wanted to make darn sure that girl was exposed to others for her ignorance and lack of any drive to correct her problem.

    • 1 year ago
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  • congoboy
  • Pengoddess
    • +2
      Pengoddess  
    • Funky:

      Words fail to express the beauty of what has happened in Egypt. It shows the power of the will of the people and what can be done when peaceful determination takes control of those being denied the basics in life. This could have gone so differently and it is by no means over, but if it continues in the same spirit, it could be a very good thing for the entire world. When I think about the history of the Egyptian people and all their amazing culture and civilization have contributed to our world, it becomes even more relevant. Today, we are all Egyptians!

    • 1 year ago
  • Pengoddess
    • +3
      Pengoddess  
    • congoboy:

      I have faith in the Egyptian people. It's their leadership that's a bit iffy. I hope the rest of the world really considers what the Egyptian people want and keep their selfish, self-interested noses out of Egypt's business. But, I think the Egyptians deserve their moment and what comes after is up to them.

    • 1 year ago
  • congoboy
  • Demtothecore
    • +1
      Demtothecore  
    • @Persecuted :

      i'm a female, and how dare you speak to me with such disrespect... i'm speaking in particular about the people in my age group who absolutely had no fucking clue about anything in egypt up until the riots, and now they have so much insight into the subject... why do people in your age group get so highly offended when someone is obviously not talking about you or to you?
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      You being female means what? I too am female so your claim to fame is the fact that you and those you call "your age group" wants to remain ignorant so you feel this is a badge of merit? I WAS NOT AROUND DURING THE CIVIL WAR, WW1 AND 2 AND EVEN THE FRENCH REVOLUTION YET I DID WHAT I FELT NECESSARY AND EDUCATED MYSELF ON THE SUBJECT MATTERS, SOMETHING YOU AND YOUR AGE GROUP MIGHT WANT TO LOOK INTO. Self deliberate ignorance and the lack of drive to study historical events is no excuse and this is the very reason why folks like you depend on others to tell you their version of history which you use as fact. So put down the crap. turn off Beck and Limballs and pick up a history book. LEARN something for yourself and come out of the self induced darkness. You would be surprised about some of the stuff you might learn. And oh trust me on this. you don't want to go there with the cussing at me. Little bitch I will tell you things that will make you scorn yourself. AND you can believe that!

    • 1 year ago
  • ras_menelik
  • Itsbatman_Durr
  • ArchDruid
  • congoboy
  • Nancy_J_Powell
  • Nancy_J_Powell
  • ArchDruid
  • congoboy
  • Itsbatman_Durr
    • +1
      Itsbatman_Durr  
    • while the phrase 'power turned over to the military' is pretty freakin scary, i am hopeful it will be simply for a short transitional period followed by fair elections

    • 1 year ago
  • Pengoddess
  • alexandrek
  • shanklinmike
  • shanklinmike
    • -5
      shanklinmike  
    • Haha, the socialist Mubarak and his tyrannous democratic regime have been ousted, and the democrat socialists on current are happy?!? Talk about hypocrisy! Can you imagine if a Bush of another country was kicked out and the neocons cheered?!? If you didn't know the history....you might actually be fooled into believing that Mubarak was not a socialist and not a part of the democratic party.....

      Talk about hypocrisy....all I can think right now.

      Besides, democracy is slavery, it is majority tyranny. Think outside the box, defend individual rights, not democracy slavery.

    • 1 year ago
  • Funky
  • alexandrek
  • shanklinmike
  • shanklinmike
  • congoboy
  • congoboy
  • Nancy_J_Powell
  • desmosabie
  • ArchDruid
  • Pengoddess
    • +1
      Pengoddess  
    • ArchDruid:

      I don't know. I always thought the Egyptian people were nothing if not astute business people. I would bet that there are tours that had been scheduled a year ago that will go on if they can convince the rest of the world (quickly) that this will continue to be a peaceful revolution. And I really think if it was going to go down the violent road it would have escalated last week and still be on that road. I think the tourists will be back sooner than you might think. There are a lot of people who really want to inhale the history of Egypt..

    • 1 year ago
  • Seauvan
  • dreaddaze
  • ApeFace
    • -9
      ApeFace  
    • Well lets free America Obama must resign now. I thought all liberals voted because he will get us out of war in Iraq. We are still in two wars Impeach Obama he is a liar.

    • 1 year ago
  • alexandrek
  • congoboy
    • -3
      congoboy  
    • alexandrek:

      i believe the house and senate while bush was in office all read the same intel. he didnt go in there alone, he had the vote of the house and senate. most of whom were democrats. you may also recall that obama pledged to make afghanistan his personal quagmire during his election campaign and during the debates. only a fool would take on afghanistan as their personal mission. if the russians couldnt tame them certainly the american military, forced to fight with one hand unfairly tied behind their backs isnt going to be able to. obama should have pulled the troops out of afghanistan the day he took office.

    • 1 year ago
  • congoboy
  • Pengoddess
  • alexandrek
  • congoboy
  • congoboy
    • 0
      congoboy  
    • alexandrek:

      naw, the russians have never been cowards. some of the toughest fighting men on the planet. now the french are another story, pussies throughout history. for an implant you sure seem to know your american history. we used to require some of that knowledge for new emigrants but we've lowered the bar. now almost any low life can become an american citizen, congratulations!

    • 1 year ago
  • Funky
    • Funky [removed]  
    • This comment was removed as a violation of community guidelines.
  • jesus_is_a_liberal
  • congoboy
    • congoboy  
    • Funky:
      This comment was removed as a violation of community guidelines.
  • Pengoddess
  • eternal_springs
  • therealpixie
  • congoboy
  • congoboy
    • 0
      congoboy  
    • Funky:

      my previous comment was removed as it was considered an attack by current standards. let me rephrase. obama had nothing to do with the people of egypts recent win. your misspoken, unwavering glorifying support of your fearless leader makes me want to throw up

    • 1 year ago
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  • Nancy_J_Powell
  • imusintheevening
  • congoboy
    • -4
      congoboy  
    • Funky:

      i agree with your analysis of the egyptian people but youre way off on the rest of your analogy. most of the worlds conflicts are caused by muslims who cant get along with their neighbors.

    • 1 year ago
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