The Obama Administration Exercises its first U.N. Security Council Veto to Kill a Resolution calling "Zionist West Bank Settlements" 'illegal.

you can see i support ethnic cleansing cuz you are mad and lack basic depth of concious thought.i mean literaly if yo took a poll of current community members who have been around as long as you and i and asked if i suppoorted israel they would say yes.that i support ethnic cleansing of the palestinians would be a resounding no.even maasanova isnt that rediculously confused.but hey why stop the hyperbole train once you get it rolling right?

actualy i have stated a bazillion (and one now) times that the settlemets are a dick move on the part of israel and they could just as easily build settlements to the south of jerusalem to the same end without pissing anyone off.but i guess the old assumption flaw rears its head again with you.

the only tag team is the one you have created in your mind.i still mantain congo is christian and crystalman and i may talk from time to time but we really avoid eachother more often than not as i like the palestinians and he is a raging islamophobe.but by all means, dont stop making shit up now.looks like you are confusing your "zionists".as i dont cut and paste propaganda.that is crystalmans deal.just as right now, i speak to the direct matters at hand.

i really dont care about what ever subjective none sense you say about your personal aquaintences as in this very comment you are posting the frame work of reality doesnt apply.so im sure you think those you know represent something, but only for lack of periferal vision on your part.clearly you see that wich you want to see, not what is.as im tag teaming a zionist something or other.

id say more than 30 percent of the voting public in israel may not be jewish.but israel is a jewish nation.this isnt really a debatable fact.they see it that way, thier nieghbors see it that way, and the entire world sees it that way.i dont have a clue how you think you can sell the idea that israel isnt a jewish nation.but be my guess.it would save jews a lot of headaches.like this very conversation.

being anti-zionist is just holding a different political view than zionism wich thier is nothing wrong with.im not a zionist and i think zionism is supperflouse and silly.but you are racist in how you use zionism.i dont just call you racist i also point out and deconstruct it to show you.other wise it is just blind name calling, like calling me a zionist or what ever.and since when are your friends dragged into this? got quite the victim meme going here dont ya?

currently about 50 percent of israel is anti-zionist actualy.i would like to think the majority of any society, no less a free democratic one would be against ethnic cleansing.

right of return isnt a legitimate concern.in fact the million palestinians who are israeli citizens are so not interested in voting they have yet to organize a single viable party.no one champions palestinian representation in the knessit as i do.i would love nothing more that for fatah and hamas drop thier guns and use pens instead.(so many jokes so little time).

yeah here is where your political stance is one of racism.wether you intend or not you are selling zionism and judaism as one in the same and accusing jews of commiting a state sanctioned genocide.wich isnt true.quite simply thier have been a million palestinians in israel since 67 and they are there today.not victims of genocide, not ethnicly cleansed.if israel were ethnicaly cleansing palestinians the ones in thier own backyard would be the first to go right?those who are being killed how ever are also the ones who attack israel wich makes it not a matter of ethnic cleansing but a country defending itself.if israel are ethniclay cleansing palestinians we are ethnicaly cleansing afghanis as we are doing the exact same thing but actualy to a greater degree.your call.

i am totaly ok with the united states of america killing as many latinos as required in order to provide security for our citizens.being as mexico isnt shelling us with rockets on a daily basis it has absolutely no application.but the day mexico does start launching rockets randomly into texas and new mexico you canbet your ass we will do the same as israel does but probably with much less restraint.

what was the palestinian population in 1948 and what is it today? no matter how you break the stats up, the palestinian population has grown 8 hundred percent making an ethnic cleansing literaly the opposite of what the paelstinians are experiencing.not opinion but the facts.

really?the current voting system means something to you? were you the guy in junior high who thought your station in life would be determined by the list the girls made of the top ten hottest guys as if that wasvld judgement? the up/down votes on current represent clicks.on your posts and maasanovas israel bashing threads im voted down to about a negative 5 or so on average.on crystalmans posts that are pro israel im voted up by 5 on average.it means nothing other than whos cliking with whom

so i guess every nation that buys the weapons we push dont want peace huh? i guess the suadis, who military apperatus is entirely comprised of off the lot american war machines, is a militarity aggressiv nation.i guess tiawan are wrmongers too by that standard huh?

as far as the money we give to israel, just curious, how much money would be acceptable? cuz we give ireland close to as much money as we give israel and no one complains, despite them being a hot bed of civilian death for decades as well.how much money is ok for us to spend in the interest of not having 9-11 be a regular occurance? personaly i dont know of a price that is too high to pay for reliable intel to prevent such horrible things.but what is the limit if we are giving israel too much, as she is the ONLY middle east country that can provide accrate intel in regards to jihadis?

check out israel's economy.they have one of the shittiest in the modern world and massive unemployment rates.
i dont think we should cut education but i also know that one has nothing to do with the other.

well that is the role we play in that particular conflict.taiwan refuses to accept subserviance to china so we sell them just enough weapomry to keep china at bay.why is doing it in one conflict to protect ally ok but the same standards dont apply to israel?

equaly one could state that if israel, whos military historicaly has been far superior to chinas, could have destroyed gaza and the bank.so the fact that they havent proves, just like with china, that have no designs on doing so.yet the palestinians hold the destruction of israel as central.

im sure massive corruption follows every transaction america makes, and certainly in regards to weapon sales.but that doesnt change the reality that they are neccesary evils.

im asking you, how much is it worth to you to not have another 9-11? cuz that is what this boils down to.that is what our money buys us.the luxury of being just like israel only not having to be the frontlines of the east vs west conflict.

it isnt that simple on either front and you know better.yes we have certainly earned a great deal of scorn but it isnt a simple cause and effect scenerio as we fuck everyone over.shit we fuck over a lot of other nations worse than we do the middle east with no retaliatory responses.

Racist.. & Moron

"racist"
says the man who ritualy offers posts about the actions of one nation, wich happens to be the only jewish nation, despite other nations functioning identicaly if not worse.
"moron"
says the man who calls israel guilty of ethniccleansing, while his own country has killed more arab muslims in the last decade than israel has in thier entire existance.

and that is what im all about as well.everyone being held to the same standard.
just as every attack israel commits against the palestinians cant be ignored niether should every attack from the palestinians on israel be ignored.that is the part you are missing.
ya wanna sanction israel and cut off all ties with them as a result of the crimes they have done, im cool with that.but apply that standard equaly and if israel is criminal the palestinians comparatively are disasterous.the saudis need to be cut off too.

but as long as we have a low standard it is what it is and should be applied equaly.wich means if it is ok for the saudis to torture thier citizenry in the interest of national security we cant hardly yell at israel for fighting off an overt direct daily threat to thiers.

i think the rational is that the united nations exists in the vision of wilson to prevent conflict, thus making it not the forum equiped to negotiate an alrady existing conflict, as too many outside opinions and agendas further complicate.

the settlements are needed, but the location is provocation.
the thing is, ill take provocation via building settlements any day over the provocation of gun fire or rocket attacks.

well you can ask the native americans about our settlement policies.im sure they could teach us a little bit about how we roll that we arent fully aware of.

do they need the settlemets? yes they do.as they still have thousands of citizens who were left homeless after israel forcebly removed them from gaza on behalf of the palestinians.granted they certainly dont have to live right next door to jerusalem as gaza (where they lived before) was pretty much as far from the temple mount as one could get in israel.like i said i agree the settlements are a dick move that prevoke an already tense sitation.im not defending the settlements or claiming they are acceptable.but they are what they are, wich is a world apart from rocket launchings.

The Middle East is oil, oil is energy. Isn't energy always a priority, but even more so when we are subsidizing oil with most of our military budget?

Please fix your caps lock key, thank you.

This wasn't supposed to post here. I haven't even read this article yet.

certainly not based on settlements.i mean its not like if israel ceased that peace would reign.

they claimed it was all about land right? then israel just gives them gaza straight out.and that didnt inspire peace, but the exact opposite.

Well said. It seems that the more Israel gives the more rockets it gets in return. It illustrates the folly of dealing with terrorists. The Arabs will not be happy until Israel does not exist. It's about time this administration backed Israel.

No I think they just evacuated their people out of gaza so they can bomb it with a bunch of poison. Palestinians do not own gaza, they dont own anything that use to be palestine, its all under zionist control now, they will never get it back, all this talk of peace is bull shit, its all part of the big plan of one day sending palestinians packing to other arab countries.

And israel isn't interseted in peace, either.

So that means the Palestinians can take over Israel's land and build Palestinian homes there?

Obama's continuation of the U.S. suck-up to Israel, especially at this time when Middle Eastern countries are witnessing upheaval and realignment of priorities and allies, sets us apart from the rest of the U.N.

If Obama is going to allow Israel to jerk American around by the short hairs, he might try to be more subtle about it.

No, it's about time the U.S. quit subsidizing Israel's terrorist threats and war on its neighbors.

Israel thinks it can yank America around by the short-hairs, after all the funding and arms we provide to them? Great, let Israel see how much of a big-shot it is without American footing the bill for their terrorist activities.

im not discounting how you feel, but how you feel runs contrary to the reality.wich is gaza was vacated of israelis 6 yrs ago.and i think you would agree that israel, unlike its arab counter parts, is fully prepared and ready to obliterate whom ever they want.the fact that israel has taken 10 thousand rocket attacks and hasnt obliterated the entirety of gaza seems to discount your theory about poisoning.

how is gaza under zionist contol when hamas is the elected government and sole creators of gazan policy?if gaza was under zionist control i would imagine they would, i dont know, make launching rockets at civilians in sderot illegal?lol

if the israelis want any land they could just take it.so wtf are you talking about alterior motive for?

israel's interest isnt peace?
they signed onto multiple united nations resolutions agreeing to peace while the palestinians refuse.shit in the begining and ever since israel has offered peace wich the palestinians have refused.

israel has the high ground cuz we need thier intel.it is just tha simple, and in reality no price is too high to pay.unless you think 9-11 is an acceptable cost?

And the problem with them going to other Arab countries that they share both a religious and philosophical kinship with would be what?

If by yanking around you mean we stand by the people we more closely identify our best interests with, then I'd rather have Israel "yanking us around" than the Palestinians.

Your wet dream of us turning our back on Israel is shared by your friends in Al Qaida as well....but it ain't gonna happen so just keep strokin"

So if someone doesn't support Israel they automatically support Al-Qaeda?

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Right on the money! It is all about "Zionists plan for Ethic Cleansing" No different that the Serbia and Bosnia but only worse (much much worse!) and... where does this path lead? To the same place of course...To The Hague and Crimes Against Humanity!

The question is.... How many Zionists do you think that they can fit in there? They are going to need a lot of cells.

Look at all the problems the Zionists have called for the state of Israel... The Hague is the only body and authority that can change the terrible wrongs being committed. That would surely relieve a lot of the unrest created in the world for everyone because on this.

See the Above Article I just Posted...

" UN special investigator says Israel has "undermined the rights under international law of the Palestinian people for 43 years."

The International Court of Justice at The Hague should issue an advisory opinion on Israeli acts of “colonialism,” “apartheid” and “ethnic cleansing” in the West Bank, UN special investigator Richard Falk has said.

He made the call in a report which he intends to deliver to the UN Human Rights Council in Geneva in March, and which he posted Monday on his blog

unfortunately yes.it shouldnt be that way, but the conflict, whos terms are well out of our control dictate that.
support israel and you are a default supporter of the west, as that is whos ideals and support system they are a part of and play into.
support the palestinians, and you are supporting the aquiesance of freedom to tyrany.

as a humanatarian one can support the palestinian people, as civilians.but to support the palestinians over the israelis is to support terrorism as a means to express ones will over democratic pacivity.

Perhaps support isn't the right word but in regards to Israel you share the same view. Now if you have shared views concerning a given state or group of people would you say you are in support of or in conflict with them?

Far as I know those rockets mostly cause property damage.
hamas was created by israel.
yea israel can kick any ones ass that lives around them, and beyond, thats exactly what they are doing, its just a slow genocide.
land is the motive... its not like there is a bunch there

nothing...
but its like mexicans telling americans in the south to go to canada because canadians are white and speak english...

If I was controlling israel I would want it all as well, especially jeruselam... who ever controls it will be making billions a year from all the christian tourists once its peaceful around there

I just dont want to give them our tax money.... we are firing teachers because we have no money and we are sending billions over seas for nothing... and no its not intel, we dont need israelis intel, no one in the world has what we have

those rockets like any rockets are designed to destroy on a massive scale.if the palestinians who are attacking israel want to meet on the battle field like egypt and syria and jordan did property damage wouldnt factor into it.but as the hide behind civilian populations what choice does israel have.either to not respond wich is to just accept that israeli civilians will be killed randomly wich is not a policy any government is expected to accept.or try to use covert operations, wich are not as effective as thier are way more terrorists than thier are agents to accomidate.not to mention it isnt a viable option as no jews exist in the palestinian regions for agents to blend in with.

hamas was created by religious clerics, but i know you arent gunna beleive me.if you like you can read son of hamas, wich is a fist hand account proving how hamas was created.

how is it a slow genocide when the palestinians population has increased at least 4 hundred percent? the statistical reality is that this is the opposit of a genocide.it makes for a great word for the urpose of encitement, but holds no truth.

if land was the motive why did israel give back gaza?for absolutely nothing in exchange btw.

they are making money regardless of the violence.it defies logic but it is what it is.do you not realize the importance of the temple mount to the jews?really?

btw the muslims have had control of that area for the preceeding centuries and made literaly no effort towards cultivating it for any purpose.commercial or otherwise.if the palestinians have it no one but them will be welcomed as that is how they roll.

we have fat lazy cia agents who wouldnt know field work or asset develpement if thier lives literaly depended on it.our intel sucks balls.from 9-11 happening to our entire cia operations team in jordan getting taken out in one fell swoop by a lone jihadi, to not having a clue that the entire region was about to revolt against thier respective governments.

i mean literaly that has to be the worst kept secret and we still were caught off guard.something that millions of everyday arabs knew as a result of facebook we did not.like facebook is a secret?
cmon our intel is beyond pathetic.

our domestic budget cuts have nothing to do with our international finances.i wish it wasnt that way but that is the case.

yes, it is all aipacs fault.
in 1948, the palestinians refused a coalition government in favor of war, cuz they know one day a pact would be created for israel.all the arab nations joined in that war, not for a visceral hatred of jews, but cuz they all saw into the future and didnt want aipac to exist.all the aggression from suicide bombings and full scale wars is based on aipac.

blame feels good dont it.who cares if it makes sense

You have to admit Israel isn't innocent. They've committed many human rights violations and do things that only give more weight to the anti-Israel case. I'm not saying what Hamas does is in any way justifiable, but most of the Palestinians who join did so because of something Israel did.

israel is far from innocent, but at the same time they are playing the hand they have been dealt.yes israel has killed a shit load of nonaggressive civilians who should never have been killed.but at the same time they were given the option of defending themselves and killing those people, or just not defending themselves.it isnt like much of a choice exists for them.

the thing is, is hamas (plo/fatah/what ever) play this game.it is in thier hands completely.if ever they want to meet israel on the battlefield and bring this to a conclusion, israel will meet them.just as they did with every other arab nation.but aslong as that side chooses a path of civilian radicalization instead of ordered conscription, all those human rights violations result.

a palestinian will certainly be easily radicalized when the israelis kill thier family.but the alternative is to allow the palestinians to kill israeli families.until that dynamic changes, it is what it is.

give the palestinians free speech, and the truth will circulate.once they get to know how they are being exploited as pawns by thier own leadership, all that focused anger that is aimed at israel,just as in egypt, will be aimed at hamas.

im not sure who should be more insulted by your commentary?
the western powers who you infer are stupid (wich btw includes your canadian ass).or the arab/muslim world that you degrade to cave dwellers.

your cave dwellers as you call them, are the people who created civilization and algebra.without wich, all of our collective existances wouldnt be.