What Conservatives Really Want
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Dedicated to the peaceful protestors in Wisconsin, February 19, 2011.The central issue in our political life is not being discussed. At stake is the moral basis of American democracy.
The individual issues are all too real: assaults on unions, public employees, women's rights, immigrants, the environment, health care, voting rights, food safety, pensions, prenatal care, science, public broadcasting and on and on.
Budget deficits are a ruse, as we've seen in Wisconsin, where the Governor turned a surplus into a deficit by providing corporate tax breaks, and then used the deficit as a ploy to break the unions, not just in Wisconsin, but seeking to be the first domino in a nationwide conservative movement.
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Deficits can be addressed by raising revenue, plugging tax loopholes, putting people to work and developing the economy long-term in all the ways the president has discussed. But deficits are not what really matter to conservatives.
Conservatives really want to change the basis of American life, to make America run according to the conservative moral worldview in all areas of life.
In the 2008 campaign, candidate Obama accurately described the basis of American democracy: empathy — citizens caring for each other, both social and personal responsibility — acting on that care, and an ethic of excellence. From these, our freedoms and our way of life follow, as does the role of government: to protect and empower everyone equally. Protection includes safety, health, the environment, pensions. Empowerment starts with education and infrastructure. No one can be free without these, and without a commitment to care and act on that care by one's fellow citizens.
The conservative worldview rejects all of that.
Conservatives believe in individual responsibility alone, not social responsibility. They don't think government should help its citizens. That is, they don't think citizens should help each other. The part of government they want to cut is not the military (we have 174 bases around the world), not government subsidies to corporations, not the aspect of government that fits their worldview. They want to cut the part that helps people. Why? Because that violates individual responsibility.
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COMMONSENSEFORCOMMONGOOD_COM
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While what you say is correct, you have only stated a partial truth. If conservatives merely espoused the moral superiority of individual responsibility, they would not have been engaged in the systematic and subterfuged rape and pillage of the United States Treasury. Because that is only reflective of individual responsibility to the same degree that parasitism is. Very little conservative wealth has been created without the one way exploitation of the public, unlike Microsoft, Google and Apple wealth, which was created upon their own shoulders. Conservatives typically depend upon government protective policies at the public's expense. We have subsidized Oil with both tax breaks and trillions spent on military operations for oil's benefit. This has resulted in unGODly expensive energy supply, while they tell us they're providing cheap energy. This is merely symptomatic of the conservative business / U.S. public relationship.
Conservatives action's suggest their belief in a SUPERIOR class within society, and various subclasses whose value is strictly for their collective and individual benefit. Conservative social values are a sham, as thin as gold veneer. It looks very pretty, but it generally covers a cesspool of corrupt morality. Conservative life is about maintaining image. It's not the facts and actions which are important, it's the face, the image and public perception. Plain and simple!
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COMMONSENSEFORCOMMONGOOD_COM
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ClassicalGas
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"In conservative family life, the strict father rules. Fathers and husbands should have control over reproduction; hence, parental and spousal notification laws and opposition to abortion. In conservative religion, God is seen as the strict father, the Lord, who rewards and punishes according to individual responsibility in following his Biblical word."
Yep, that's who we're dealing with.
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What the cons really want is a government that infringes upon the liberties of the people by enforcing morality, and at the same time deregulates commerce. While handing out corpirate welfare to the wealthy, they would deny all form of social safety net for the people.
When they are sitting in their Mcmansions eating caviar with grey poupon payed for by cutting WIC, they leave us little choice but to EAT THE RICH! - 2 years ago
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coolplanet
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"Budget deficits are a ruse, as we've seen in Wisconsin, where the Governor turned a surplus into a deficit by providing corporate tax breaks, and then used the deficit as a ploy to break the unions, not just in Wisconsin, but seeking to be the first domino in a nationwide conservative movement."
This is worth repeating!
Republicans used the same strategy in 2002, firing thousands of their staff to make unemployment numbers artificially higher.
What scumbags!!!
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coolplanet
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sla48
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My step Father used to say "only the strong survive". He was a stanch conservative. It's in their manifesto. I thought then as I do now, that position was juxtaposed to my Christian indoctrination. Talk about hypocrisy. Talk about confusing. My choice was to become as my step father would say a "bleeding heart LIBERAL", of course, he said as condemnation, while I defiantly took as a huge compliment. There is no humanity in the conservative, republican or tea party (choose any of them) agenda. What I believe is that the only people the republican agenda serves is the wealthy and the conservative politicians themselves. The rest of it is propagated by smoke and mirrors. Political theater to confuse the adel minded society they have duped. If the republicans really wanted to do the hard work they proclaim...they would look at their own inner circle ( big corps, military bloat, and tax loop holes), and make those "hard" corrections.
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sla48
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sla48:
+^d
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remanns
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One quibble,....I DON'T think the basis of "American Democracy",....is Firstly,..."empathy",.....its clearly "self actualization" or "individual direction",....something along those line. But, . . .( sorry generic American "Libertarian",.....NOT "property",.....and certainly NOT "property rights",.....and SURE AS HELL NOT " property/money = speech ". BACK OFF JACK
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remanns
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remanns
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. . . .what they "really want",.....is " IT ALL ",.....with NO argument .
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remanns
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remanns
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What they WANT ???
How about "Just Say No" ! ( they LIKE that one. )
" NO " ! ( you pin head judgmental,... manipulative, two faced, sanctimonious, self serving BASTARDS )
It's about time "culture war" was fought on YOUR doorstep.
Not one more INCH of "push back" for the working man and struggling poor,...not ONE MORE "child not left behind" by tossing them out the f-ing window with the bathwater,......NOT one more multi national conglomerate plutocratic-parasitic "non person" becomes a person,....on " we the peoples" watch. F off ! Get back !
Got a PROBLEM with that ??? Lets RUMBLE !
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remanns
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remanns:
" Better DEAD,.........than "Red" is STILL TRUE, for the state of America.
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remanns
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remanns:
p.s - - -I actually LIKE that one - --bumper sticker time -
Better DEAD / than RED ( pic of fat red elephant - blue "map icon" of U.S.A. )
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remanns
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Socialism for the rich and everyone else can go suck of a fat dog's dick. What part did I leave out here?
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Ophiuchus:
I would say that was spot on. Not going to get an argument from me. +^d
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remanns
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Dig your post...
Pet Economic Peeve - "Budget deficits are convenient ruses for destroying American democracy and replacing it with conservative rule in all areas of life."
Truer words will seldom e'er be spoken. Nothing but a backward understanding of economic theory and monetary policy forced upon an unknowing public and peddled by willfully ignorant politicians and demagogues - convenient ruse is a dangerous understatement - and so I QUOTE:
"With one brief exception, the federal government has been in debt every year since 1776. In January 1835, for the first and only time in U.S. history, the public debt was retired, and a budget surplus was maintained for the next two years in order to accumulate what Treasury Secretary Levi Woodbury called “a fund to meet future deficits.” In 1837 the economy collapsed into a deep depression that drove the budget into deficit, and the federal government has been in debt ever since. Since 1776 there have been exactly seven periods of substantial budget surpluses and significant reduction of the debt. From 1817 to 1821 the national debt fell by 29 percent; from 1823 to 1836 it was eliminated (Jackson’s efforts); from 1852 to 1857 it fell by 59 percent, from 1867 to 1873 by 27 percent, from 1880 to 1893 by more than 50 percent, and from 1920 to 1930 by about a third. Of course, the last time we ran a budget surplus was during the Clinton years. I do not know any household that has been able to run budget deficits for approximately 190 out of the past 230-odd years, and to accumulate debt virtually nonstop since 1837.
The United States has also experienced six periods of depression. The depressions began in 1819, 1837, 1857, 1873, 1893, and 1929. (Do you see any pattern? Take a look at the dates listed above.) With the exception of the Clinton surpluses, every significant reduction of the outstanding debt has been followed by a depression, and every depression has been preceded by significant debt reduction. The Clinton surplus was followed by the Bush recession, a speculative euphoria, and then the collapse in which we now find ourselves. The jury is still out on whether we might manage to work this up to yet another great depression. While we cannot rule out coincidences, seven surpluses followed by six and a half depressions (with some possibility for making it the perfect seven) should raise some eyebrows."
End the stupidity... http://goo.gl/BT1Ov
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sort of interested in that book now . . . .
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remanns
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remanns:
Cheers. It's worth it to learn all one can about Modern Money Theory.
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JohnA [removed]
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What do centrists want? What do moderates want? What do independents want? Any thoughts, any ideas? I know what the far right wants and what the far left wants already. What do the American people want? After all, they are the ones that decide every election.
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JohnA [removed]
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Saladin
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JohnA:
They have no idea what they want because they barely pay attention to politics as it is.
Most Americans are dumb, lazy and unimaginative. They don't know what they want beyond their next paycheck, fast food meal and television show.
As for me, I'd be all for dumping all the memes of the past 30 years and adopting a more frugal, protectionist isolationist stance to American life. Get the fuck out of other countries and just get back to fixing ours (within reason of course, total non-commitment is immature.)
Then I'd take all that money we waste on "defense" spending and put it into science, technology, education and other infrastructure and make ourselves EARN that "best country in the world" bullshit we always harp on about.
Sound good to you?
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Saladin
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Saladin:
Yes, actually, it does.
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Maggielee
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what I've been screaming for two years to everyone who would listen....few would, many called me a few choice names. I just pray that now even the right wingers who are NOT RICH and don't have all the choices they thought they had...maybe now they will listen to what their leaders are doing to the country!
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Maggielee
