Obama accused of 'double standards' as family go skiing just days after telling Americans to sacrifice their own holidays

EXACTLY!

actually most presidents will tell people to spend spend spend to pump their money into the economy... what he said, and taken out of context with just one sentence, was... if you're a family that is trying to cut back, try not going out to eat, or skipping a vacation...

it seems so strange to me that people could possibly have a problem with that statement with the way the credit industry has taken such a part in the financial disaster... if you cant afford to go on vacation, dont go on vacation... and dont charge it to your visa.... i mean... really whats wrong with that?

it seems to me like if i was talking to anyone with half a brain, and i said... im really broke but im going to go to the bahamas and charge it on my credit card... that half brained person would say.. but you cant afford to go on vacation, i dont think thats a good idea...

everyone is so busy trying to be offended by obama that they cant recognize that the guy is making sense... thats a definite no brainer...

since thats so offensive to some people... let ME add to it... if you cant make car payments, dont buy a car... if you cant make house payments, dont buy a house... if you cant buy dog food, dont buy a dog... if you cant afford children, dont have children.... if you cant afford anything, dont buy it!

did that offend you?

Nicely said Curtis!

It frightening to me also. So many people do not have critical thinking skills and this is the reason politicians and powerful corporations get away with anything. People make emotional attachment and think of politician as their friend instead as a leader of the nation who's decisions and actions may ruin our livelihood.

yes... some people will defend this undeserving united states president... even if he paid for the vacation himself, and sent his wife and kids while he stayed in DC to work... the guy is such a dirty slime ball... geez....

how does him sending his family on vacation ruin our livelihood? mother, i normally agree with a lot of things you say, but you are way off on this one... he said if you're trying to cut back, try not spending money... how terrible is that?
he makes decent money as a united states president... and he SHOULD... you wanna start paying the president minimum wage? have some national pride... you want the president of the united states to be wearing shoes with holes in em and suits passed down from president bush? seriously....

he sent his wife and kids on vacation while he stayed in DC to work... he is not part of a family who needs to save money... but there are a lot of families that are spending beyond their means and it seems to me that it takes a real sensitive freak to be offended by what he said. theres plenty other things for you to pick on him for mother... this is not one of those things...

Ok, let me explain my position. First I never said that Mrs. Obama's vacation will ruin our livelihood. What I did say was Americans are mesmerized with public figures causing impairment of their judgement. President is not your or mine close friend. President does not hold a celebrity position. I honestly care less where Obamas vacationing. What I do care about is using presidential post for personal benefit. There is a big difference between a wife of a rich man who travels the world on their own expense and wife of the president who is traveling the world. President's wife requires expensive traveling and security arrangements at my expense, and president's wife on vacation uses her position for her personal benefit.

President holds a job that requires him to adjust his lifestyle to serve American citizens and make decisions that will effect our families. In my opinion, while millions of citizens lost their homes, media coverage of lavish pleasure traveling is in an example of very poor manners.

he sent his family on vacation and stayed in DC himself

You are missing the point.

how am i missing the point... he gets paid a decent salary as president, he sent his family on vacation, paid for it, and stayed in DC to work... what exactly is the point?

NOt as bad as the wrath from the left the previous administration had to put up with. By comparison Obama is having a cake walk. I don't feel sorry for him. He made the bed he lies in.

You are correct . The President has to pay his own way for vacations. He should go with his family. The White House is in touch with him.

He's not having a cake walk. I feel sorry for him. He's fixing the mess Bush left him with.

OK. This is a topic for another thread. I was hoping crap like this could stay out of it but some of you will never miss a chance. Pitiful but there you have it.
There were financial problems that bled from the Bush administration to the Obama administration but to blame all this on Bush is disingenuous at the very least. Obama took this "mess" as you describe it and has made it exponentially worse. He is inept, unqualified, arrogant, way,way way radical leftist and a danger to this country. Sorry but you opened the door.
Regarding vacations, since it appears I have to spell out everything.....we should pay for his but he should pay for his family. I don't care if he does his duties on the ski slope or the golf course. He is the president regardless of geography. The job does not end simply because he is not physically at 1600. Ditto Bush and the time liberals whined about that he spent at Crawford or Camp David. In my opinion, the damn libs, always ready to criticize everything yet cannot take criticism for anything, were whining about a problem that did not exist. Obamas lack of job qualification and generally lack of ability to carry out his duties with any sort of competency does not detract from the fact that the job is a pressure cooker. Look at the gray hair Obama has amassed in two years. I would not want the job. As far as I am concerned the more time he gets out from behind the desk the better off it will be for all concerned. This is a non issue.

It was Bushs mess that brought the economy down.Two wars, not paid for,drug program not paid for. stock market falls till pensions went down the drain Bush also had a balanced budget when he took office.. I hate to spell this out for you but when President Obama is away from DC, he is always in contact with the White House and DOES pay for his family's vacation. President Obama is very qualified. He saved our car industry, Altho the economy Is not good, it is better than when he took office. The stock market is good again, etc.Two years is not enough to fix the mess. He will never be a danger to this country.You must be watching Fox. All presidents manage to become gray while in office. It's called stress. By the way at least respect the office. He is PRESIDENT Obama.

Being a leader of a nation is not just a job it is a Life. Presidents choices effect all citizens.

he was at the ranch more than he was in the was in the oval office

so if the obamas are paying for their own expenses, who cares?

I think you're confusing the current President with the previous one.

Presidents and their families don't siphon up taxpayer dollars like royalty to support a lavish lifestyle when the country is in a Depression.

Wait a minute...I take that back...Marie Antoinette and Mubarak have done that.

We can certainly see the leadership heroes the Obamas use as the examples of good leadership.

Unfortunately for them, as it was unfortunate for Marie Antoinette and Mubarak, many in the country they lead don't feel that way, and was/are at a place where we have had enough of that kind of bullshit.

I love the adjectives used to describe their trips.
Extravagant, Lavish, Costly, Vast Expense.
Tell me the storyline isn't biased.
Poor Rush doesn't know whether to laugh or cry.
I've become less and less enchanted with the President, but his vacation time is not one of my issues.
I don't think the Democratic party deserves any kudo's for their performance when they were in the Majority. I almost think they like being the minority, it allows them to whine, something they do very often and well.

but the obamas are paying for their own expenses... minus the secret service...which would shut down the road for michelle to go to the grocery store... maybe we should tell those unworthy black people who occupy our WHITE house that they dont deserve the same basic shit that other presidents or even congressmen get... a congressman can go on vacation in colorado fully funded by the american public... but nobody says a word... the obamas pay for their own vacation and they are living lavish? come on... i think you're a republi-troll at this point... you are incapable of being unbiased... you hate obama... you are omitted from further intelligent conversations where reasoning and thought are concerned...

Thank you for the post! Saved me from having to typeit, I agree 100%

I'm sure Mubarak would say the same thing when the people criticized him and his family for using the country's resources to fund his lavish lifestyle, trips, and activities.

If Obama cannot provide better leadership when it comes to buoying up Americans, who are facing the reality of the depression he helped worsen into a likely unredeemable disaster, then he is a failure as a president.

This persists racism against non-white bodies among white people is disgusting. A lot of black women are naturally pear shaped (more fat stored in the hips, but skinny on top).

i guess you only read when you want to... the vacation... minus the secret service... is being paid for by the president...

Your post contains so many falsehoods it doesn't warrent any more response. You are either blinded by racism or you don't have the mental capacity to sort out fact from fiction ie from Faux and/or right wing media, either way it's sad.

You are guilty of Argument By Prestigious Jargon: using big complicated words so that you will seem to be an expert.

Just because you took an Intro to Critical Thinking class and can use "red herring" in a sentence does not change the fact that you are just another partisan Obama hater.

Clearly, this media right here is an opinion threat, so we are all entitled to have one, and I am glad that you and I differ on this issue. "Obama supporter" do not need to launch their own logical argument. It is frightening to see some of these comments, yours among them. At times I wonder what the real cause of your opposition is, because obviously our President is a big thorn in your eye regardless. Do you maybe have a problem with a black family in the white house, period? What exactly is it? Reading your comments does not really reveal and ideological difference, actually no ideology at all, just a tint of racist attitude maybe. I hope you will get over yourself and find peace within you, hate is so unhealthy. Aloha

Ahh--the posting refuge of the those who cannot offer a better argument: the "hater" claim.

If you are through proving what I posted about the Obama apologists and their use of logical fallacies, do you actually have anything, besides ad hominem attacks, to address my argument?

If you want to be taken seriously in a debate forum, such as a message board, posting logical arguments is the way to do it. Logical arguments have evidence to support them. Therefore, they carry more weight.

Many message boards, including this one, have rules against ad hominem attacks. If you stick to logical arguments, you stand less chance of being drop-kicked from a posting environment.

As we see in your post, because you have nothing to support your own opinions, you are forced to stoop to the level of making psychic interpretations of the reasons for my opinions. This is, obviously, one of the weakest approaches that can be used to refute another's opinions because there is little credibility in someone who makes psychic assumptions on someone they've never met, and with whom they are not even in the presence of.

Finally, the absolute lowest of posting responses is to play the race card. There is nothing in my post that indicates racism. if anyone is the racist, it is you, because you raised the issue.

You're so brainwashed and full of shit.

Reciting a list of logical fallacies does not constitute an argument. Perhaps if you presented a logical argument for something, you would be taken more seriously.

That's the best you can do? Psychically intuit what my reasonings are for the content of my posts?

Sorry, that's an ad hominem and a red herring. The first is a reason you can be dumped from many message board systems. The second is a tactic used when the person cannot come up with a logical, sound response to another's opinion.

you're a republi-troll... not capable of looking at any situation involving obama in an intelligent way

the real cause of her opposition is that she voted for obama and he turned out to not be a 1 day miracle worker... now everything he does pisses her off

Since you are in such solid support of the Obama's let-them-eat-cake lifestyle, YOU pay for it.

Great comment. We are indeed in a dangerous situation, the division is growing daily in this country. The danger is that it will immobilize our government and set us back even further than what the last administration before Obama has already done. We are suffering in environmental protection, consumer protection and so on. It would be great to have discussions without all of this hate and steamed rhetoric, we can only hope for our country that we will return to civility before it is too late. Aloha

why dont you suggest that obama pay for it.... oh.. cuz he DID.... duh

So what they're our First Family. I don't recall you complaining one bit when Laura Bush went on her African Safari trip.

You think it's okay for Obama to squander the few taxpayer dollars we can send to the Treasury on his lavish, rock-star lifestyle? Fine. YOU Pay for it.

If you would just write out a check for about $1,000,000,that should cover at least part of the expenses of the First Families homage to Marie Antoinette's lifestyle.

Though I hadn't thought about it that way I really do agree...watching them is delightful.

Thank you for pointing that out.

We can watch them on the White House lawn. They don't have to raid our Treasury for us to watch them.

Incredulous, love your comment. I too enjoyed the Bushies on SNL rather than for "real'. I do trust that the weight of the economy is heavily on Obama, somehow you can see by his face and hair, he is feeling the punch day in and day out. I doubt it is much fun for him, seems to me he is carrying a big load. This financial mess we were in when he first came to office was something that no one could predict the outcome. They handled it alright overall. Yes, we are in a deep mess. I blame corporate America just as much as politicians and yes the voters too. Those eight years that Bush had to waste away this countries treasures, those years will hurt us for some time to come.

he said if you are a family trying to cut back, try not going out to eat, or skipping a vacation... if you are a family that can afford it, why not?

you're losing your crediblity in a hurry

Nice post.

You don't have the slightest idea of what you're talking about. Just when did you observe his lavish, rock-star lifestyle and see the expense reports or did these "truths" basically just come from Becky and Faux?

It seems as if there is nothing that he can do that would gain your approval. If I'm not mistaken I've read on another post of yours that you voted for him...I understand your disapproval, but you repeatedly fail to give any room for personal judgement. I have a feeling that if he was vacationing on his front lawn you would be criticize him for slacking off and not tackling the issues at hand. We all need reasonable rest periods and he is no exception.

i agree with you... we all do need reasonable rest periods... including those little girls who are under so much pressure and his wife who is constantly being attacked. president obama stayed behind in DC to work... i think he should have gone on vacation too but i respect his choice to stay behind to get stuff done... although you wouldnt know it from his haters... he might as well be in the carribeans right now, for all they care... they refuse to give him credit for even the tiniest thing

Logical fallacy, poisoning the well.

"Tabloid" publications such as the Enquirer have been responsible for printing the truth about issues and politicians (affairs of John Edwards and Bill Clinton, as well as Limbaugh's oxycontin addiction and using his housekeeper to go make the drug deals for him) while the "MSM" toadies sat on the stories.

"Family leaves Obama in D.C. to ski in Vail

Read more: Family leaves Obama in D.C. to ski in Vail - The Denver Post http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_17434120#ixzz1EWuXMc6c
Read The Denver Post's Terms of Use of its content: http://www.denverpost.com/termsofuse

So much for the "Tabloid" theory.

This guy's decision making process needs assessed.

Can't wait to see the accounting for the pittance the Obamas are said to have "paid for expenses."

When Obama dropped everything and flew off to the International Olympic Committee to join Oprah and Mrs. Obama in their bid to get the Olympic games for Chicago--at a time when Obama couldn't quite decide what orders he wanted to give McChrystal, or what policies he wanted for his vanity war in Afghanistan--it cost over $2million, when all costs were tallied up.

The fact that he was the first American president to ever stoop to such a level as to try to strong-arm the OIC by his power of the American presidency into doing what the president wanted was humiliating enough. The fact that his efforts FAILED--indeed, in the first round of elimiantion--was just added humiliation.

i don't want to have to wonder if what i'm reading is truth or fiction
i get my news from the AFP and AP
there's no (AFP) to less (AP) fiction from those sources...

alll righty then
the denver post
a more substantiated source
fine
tabloid
no

Read more: Family leaves Obama in D.C. to ski in Vail - The Denver Post http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_17434120#ixzz1EWuXMc6c

(Thanks to Riverratt)

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So, the Denver Post--tabloid, as well?

While you are waiting for that accounting spreadsheet, why not request also to see the numbers that Bush and his people hid in all sorts of corners while fighting a war off the book. Or ask Rumsfeld if the proceeds from his book sale will be forwaded to the Department of Defense to replace the billions that just went MISSING without any accountability on his watch. Oh and let us not forget the beneficiaries of the no bid contracts that made gazillions of taxpayers money while building crap that can't be used, feed our troops contaminated foods and electrocute them in showers all the while collecting your tax money. Ah, you did not mind paying for that did you? Now the black man in the white house who is mandated to clean up the horrible horrible corrupted mess that was left behind, yes, he deserves all of your criticism. I can't wait for the accounting either, but I know that Mr. Obama will leave the white house with a clean balance sheet, just as Mr. Clinton did.

guess i did not write it clear enough for you
denver post = fine
tabloid = no

sometimes you need to take risks... the revenue from an olympics game is massive... it was a gamble... he lost... lets shoot him in the face for it...

And looks like you took the bate

Yep. Looove your picture by the way. Aloha

and you're the troll... lol

Thanks Hulagirrrl.

They're everywhere no matter what site I go too or even visit there always there.

Yes I know not the first time I have been called a troll because I don't support your puppet president.

My sentiments exactly ReMarker!!

When American citizens are facing excruciatingly hard times, especaily when part of the fault likes on Obama for his obsession with his vanity war in Afghanistan, wasting the money that should be spent on unemployment and our economy, it is a slap in the face to every American when he and his family squander even MORE of our taxpayer dollars to live the lavish rock-star lifestyle they cannot afford themselves.

It is an extremely poor form of leadership when a president insults the people his leadership has failed by gobbling up more money, on top of that wasted by his pathetic attempts at being Foreign Policy Hero by his Operation Quagmire: Afghanistan.

The Egyptian people drove from office Mubarak for the same "let-them-eat-cake" attitude. How long before the same demands start for Obama?

It's called having a little class and buckling down to your own BS and the Obama's have neither.

You ever meant someone that has worked hard?

we all know these black people dont deserve vacations... he is a SUB president... below any president we've ever had... he doesnt deserve anything that we have mindlessly given to our former presidents...

lets go even further and blame the whole financial crisis on him... thats what hes there for... to take blame for everyone else...

(extreme sarcasm)

I believe we must learn from our mistakes, including mistakes in voting.

Clearly, a large number of Obama's 2008 voters were scammed by his lies and promises, some of which he never meant to keep because he started breaking them immediately after his November election.

Obama is now our Bait-and-Switch president, promising one thing and delivering another. In California, they can arrest a salesman pulling a bait-and-switch scam. Yet some Obama supporters just smile and praise him, as he shits all over them, time and time again.

Obama has made tremendous mistakes as president, and they are making what was a situation with our economy that could be turned around when he took office, into a permanent situation.

Part of the problem is because he has continued many of Bush's most heinous measures.

So we need to discuss Obama v. Bush to see where so many Obama voters allowed themselves to be swindled by a two-bit carnie with a fast line and zero follow-through. If we don't understand what brought us to where we are, we cannot help but end up traveling the same path again.

yeah... mccain and palin were a better choice...

mccain is in bed with the corporations... people may not like obama but at least hes not taking kickbacks from corporations... at least hes fighting against the healthcare industry for the good of the people...whether those people are too stupid to realize how much he's saving their asses or not

except for the healthcare fight