What does the Arab world do when it's water runs out?
source: http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2011/feb/20/arab-nations-water-running-out
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The diverse states that make up the Arab world, stretching from the Atlantic coast to Iraq, have some of the world's greatest oil reserves, but this disguises the fact that they mostly occupy hyper-arid places. Rivers are few, water demand is increasing as populations grow, underground reserves are shrinking and nearly all depend on imported staple foods that are now trading at record prices.
For a region that expects populations to double to more than 600 million within 40 years, and climate change to raise temperatures, these structural problems are political dynamite and already destabilising countries, say the World Bank, the UN and many independent studies.
In recent reports they separately warn that the riots and demonstrations after the three major food-price rises of the last five years in north Africa and the Middle East might be just a taste of greater troubles to come unless countries start to share their natural resources, and reduce their profligate energy and water use.
"In the future the main geopolitical resource in the Middle East will be water rather than oil. The situation is alarming," said Swiss foreign minister Micheline Calmy-Rey last week, as she launched a Swiss and Swedish government-funded report for the EU.
The Blue Peace report examined long-term prospects for seven countries, including Turkey, Iraq, Jordan, the Palestinian territories and Israel. Five already suffer major structural shortages, it said, and the amount of water being taken from dwindling sources across the region cannot continue much longer.
"Unless there is a technological breakthrough or a miraculous discovery, the Middle East will not escape a serious [water] shortage," said Sundeep Waslekar, a researcher from the Strategic Foresight Group who wrote the report.
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tommic
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the U.S. Military already recognizes the future wars will be over water and access to it
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tommic
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manfreddrake
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They buy salt water extractors like they did in Kuwait, A whole world of water is available. It may be the new "oil" in the middle east.
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manfreddrake
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tommic
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manfreddrake:
Better build desalinization plants far enough from shore so they don't become inundated by seas in forty years
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JanforGore
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moneybags:
Ironic isn't it?
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JanforGore
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crystalman
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They can thank Allah for the thirst.
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crystalman
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Nephwrack
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crystalman:
you make me sick. don't forget your precious israel is part of the Arab world.
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Nephwrack
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JanforGore
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Nephwrack:
Yes and controlling much of its water knowing what it is doing to others.
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JanforGore
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Kitten_of_D00M
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Hey, wouldn't this be a great theme for TED?
http://www.ted.com/ - 1 year ago
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Kitten_of_D00M
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simha
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As long as west buy fuel from middle east to satisfy their thurst,people in middle east get more water.Did not they get water to live before the start of modernization,yes.We should not forget that The one who creates us will never forget to provide for our needs.It is we who create the imbalance.
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simha
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samthesixth
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When the water runs out, they build desalinization plants.
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samthesixth
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Indywingnut260
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Maybe we can charge them $300 a barrel for water?!
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samthesixth
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Indywingnut260:
Outstanding! we can trade water for oil.
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BenjaminDover
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I think we're headed toward Tank Girl world where the rulers control water and power.
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Wetdog
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1,000 years ago, the Sinagua(from Spanish, it means "without water") Indians built cities in some of the most arid deserts in North America. They built stone lined catchment and cistern systems to catch and store what small rainfall there was to sustain themselves and had a sophisticated farming system that made extensive use of native plants and animals adapted to the low moisture desert environment. The Sinagua were experts at making the most use of meager resources available.
We should take a lesson from the Sinagua people.
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Wetdog
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Kitten_of_D00M
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I read somewhere yesterday- around here? CNN? Huffpo? ..that there may be a connection between aggressive oil drilling in the American Midwest and the loss of ground water, due to breaking through the bottom shale layers of the aquifers. The oil companies are basically punching holes like a sieve into the water table, and the water is just draining away underground, and wells are running dry. I wonder if that's also happening in the Middle East. I can't seem to relocate this story, does anybody recall hearing about this?
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JanforGore
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ArchDruid:
Yes, but that will not last either.
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ArchDruid:
You're right, unfortunately they mostly supply coastal areas. The units don't have the capacity to pump enough water to supply inland areas, and the places that are running out of their aquifers don't have the pipelines set up.
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UrbanGypsy
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Dubai has a huge problem with water. They have created a whole wonderland for tourism with gardens, resorts, golf courses, fountains, pools and all kinds of things but they forgot that they live in the middle of the desert. When the real estate market collapsed - the city state had to take a bailout from Abu Dhabi.
Dubai relies almost entirely on desalination - a very, very costly process that also spews unimaginable amounts of carbon dioxide into the atmosphere. Right now the only way Dubai pays for its very expensive water is with oil revenue - and because of Abu Dhabi's bailout.
If oil goes what will happen to Dubai?
http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/johann-hari/the-dark-side-of-d...
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UrbanGypsy:
dust and sand
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UrbanGypsy:
Oil only accounts for 6% of the economic production in Dubai. They are far less dependent on the export/input of oil than the US is.
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Aurere
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I know the answer to that!! they buy it from New Zealand it is like gold here!!
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Aurere
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Aurere:
in northern queensland, aus
there is a bottle water company called: rain farm - 1 year ago
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ThirdSection
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Perhaps the easiest way for Middle Eastern states (plus the drought-stricken states of Southern Europe) to combat increasing water shortages is desalinization. Most of the major population centers in the region are near a coastline afterall.
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ThirdSection
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artemis6
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The 500 pound gorilla in the room .....
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JanforGore
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The point here is that water scarcity is an underlying cause of much of the unrest in this area of the world, only it is not getting the attention and press it needs in order to be dealt with. Governments would rather privitize it and much of it is polluted beyond the ability to be used. Even desalination in this area is proving costly. I am amazed that the word "conservation" never gets mentioned in addressing this crisis, and that is part of the problem. I would hope that the available sources would be shared equitably, but as we now see Turkey and Israel are the water bosses of the Middle East, and they control a large part of the water being used ( much of it now diverted for dams.) Also, we see many dams being built in Africa with hydropower becoming a source of energy that cannot be sustained in a land where drought and population growth are already straining agriculture along with the effects of biodistress (climate change.) We need to address population and water usage in line with polluton of this resource that is now unsustainable. We also need to bring energy sources to these areas that do not consume huge amounts of water that should be used for growing food and addressing the needs of people in these areas. I have always contended that there was a MAD scenario to the water crisis in that no country would ever do anything to harm the source of another as it would come back on them. However, from what I have seen recently regarding unwillingness of upstream countries to share equitably with downstream countries, this crisis is becoming more and more contentious not only in the Middle East but in Asia and Africa.
http://mideastnews.com/WaterWars.htm
The information here is a bit dated (1994) but the predictions to 2025 are coming true. Countries in this region have all stated that the one resource they will wage war over is water. And with this area already being arid now contending with longer replenishment rates due to climate change affecting the hydrologic cycle along with wasteful irrigation and drought where there is little potable water and higher populations, we will only see more protests along these lines as well as protesting higher food prices, unemployment and political corruption. Water is the 400 lb. gorilla in the room.
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Kitten_of_D00M
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A water shortage can happen anywhere, as recent problems in Ireland would indicate. We'd be wise to actually help these nations figure out a solution because we will likely be needing a strategy of our own sooner than we think.
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Kitten_of_D00M:
Your so right Kitten, and actually we're already there. Our western states and communities have been competing for water for some time. Meanwhile, the EPA is allowing the natural gas industry to pollute the underground water sources in Pennsylvania. We have no choice but go to Washington and kick butt!
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LivingPong
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tHIS IS WHY i THINK pEOPLE Should TRADe uSiNg wATeR , CLEAN water
Water is perfect. It's completely transparent and it's good for you.
The middle east could trade sand for water. Sand is excellent, countries inundated with sea water could use all the plastic laying around to make huge plastic sheets to create large water purifying systems that are powered by the sun. The fresh water they get from these systems could be traded to countries in the middle east for sand. The sand could be used for sand bags or could have organic matter added to it to make it fertile. The sand could also be used to make glass, an excellent product when tempered to produce more fresh water from.
You could build some pretty simple tempered glass peculation systems that would use the suns heat to produce fresh water from seawater. Maybe they could try something like that in the middle east.
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LivingPong:
i LOVE thiS iDeA!!!!!!!!
Ever since Nixon took U.S. off the gold standard we have had a faith based economy.
So what is a gallon of clean water worth anyway?
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coolplanet
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coolplanet:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZccIm5SDxJU&feature=related
The great song Cool Water by Johnny Cash.....
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coolplanet:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sY5Znl6k2v8
Another cool version by Joni Mitchel and Willie Nelson.
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LivingPong:
that and so much more if we require our hired help, (Congress), to actually work.
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coolplanet:
You are the best for posting this!
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LivingPong:
That is a great idea! The sunniest place on the earth should definitely take advantage of it's most powerful (and free) resource. Government agencies from every nation should be dispatched to the Middle East to help them build this stuff. It would be a great gesture of goodwill that could unite the planet in the face of the all recent unrest over there, and there would be oversight to make sure one nation doesn't hog all the water and overcharge other nations for access, and even more importantly, that no large corporations step in and take over the building of the distillation infrastructure. We have to be perpetually on guard against these predatory companies that contribute nothing, but set themselves up as middlemen, basically holding the resources of other nations for ransom. No wonder they hate us over there. We have to change the way we do things in the Middle East, and stop letting just the military and big corporations represent us. Helping them with a problem instead of helping ourselves to their stuff is the best way to start.
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coolplanet:
Great song.
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JanforGore
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coolplanet
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samthesixth:
Thanks! My pleasure.
Coming back to post this i had a very emotional experience listening to both versions of Cool Water. Guess it was hearing this powerful song in context to the article but I cried for a good 10 minutes, and am still welling up as i type.
"In my mind I see a big green tree
and a river flowin' free
waitin' up ahead for you and me...."
Music is incredibly healing!
I feel much better now. - 1 year ago
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