Qaddafi Just Ordered The Destruction Of Oil Pipelines To The Mediterranean

You hit the nail on the head.

100% agree - if tptb wants someone dead he is dead...and qaddafi is standing

You give the CIA WAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too much credit.

Although many of the revolting countries were basically dictatorships, I couldn't help but feel like the U.S. is somewhat involved in these uprisings just like in Guatemala, Panama, Nicaragua...

Very well said my friend.

The U.S. and the CIA are just layers of the onion. It's Corporatists.

Yahh! Can you help organize marches?

tut tut...you forgot to take the meds again. Watch out otherwise the men in white coats will be coming for you from the funny farm. And you and I know that they all work for the CIA. They own your meds too.

Agreed!

Would it do any good? I've never marched before. Have you?

that is the reality, the rest is greed and madness.

or also relying on the billions of barrels of crude underneath our own soil.

"Renewable" is the operative word in my comment.

Just so you know, oil is NOT renewable and pollutes.

Hey Congo. I sort of slightly almost missed your idiot savant perspective. Glad to see talking about a brutal dictator got you out from under your rock.

uhhhh, i'm not as dumb as i look. oil may not be renewable but its a relatively cheap source of energy until someone comes up with an alternative and renewable variety that is affordable to the average consumer. and even some renewables and alternatives pollute as well, especially when you have to depend on coal or oil to produce the power to produce the alternatives. sometimes the original is less polluting or harmful to the environment than the alternative one that you are attempting to produce. until then keep drilling baby. peace

A way to increase one's chances of surviving is to try to anticipate events that interfere with surviving.

Predictable events:
1. Oil will get used up.
2. Oil prices will increase as it gets used up.
3. Oil pollutes.
4. Living in pollution increases disease and lowers life expectancy.

I could make the argument that in the near future it will be unnecessary to use fossil fuels but I suspect it would take more time than you are willing to give the concept of "renewable" energy, regardless of whether renewable energy is inevitable.

The simple reality is, fossil fuels will eventually be used up and we will need a different source of energy. The cost of developing renewable energy sources will be much higher in the future.

I think you are talking about our strategic reserve, to be used only in times of national emergency. Like to bring down gas prices right before a presidential reelect.

and i sort of slightly almost missed your leftist spin and slant on things brother. looks like a brutal dictator can bring out the best in all of us regardless of political persuasion. love ya, in a non sexual way!

no my son, i am all for renewable energy sources especially if it gets our dependency off of foreign imports from despots who hate us. but i take a more common sense approach. the problem is renewable at this point in time has its draw backs such as using food sources that normally feed hungry people or at a cost prohibitive to the average consumer. until technology gets us to a good place and alternatives become affordable then i still say we need to depend on whats cheapest, readily available and easiest to produce, crude. theres a research facility near me that creates bio diesel but it costs them about $9.00 a gallon to produce. once marketed who can afford that.

BP Biofuels is a leading global biofuels player and since 2006 has announced investments of more than $1.5 billion in biofuels research, development and operations.

FYI, Teapublican politicians are bought by BP and support whatever BP wants. It's the same old money over people strategy Teapublicans and BP have used for decades.

Speaking of decades, we have known fossil fuels are finite for decades. The Republican "tree hugger" campaign successfully marginalized environmentalists and caused delays in developing renewable energy sources since the late 60s.

Surely you know all of this and continue to avoid your personal responsibility of acting responsibly, especially since our survival depends on wise planning, not to mention the environmental damage being done by ignoring the facts.

"Despots who hate us"? How about despots who deprive their citizens of the freedoms we have and often times, their very lives, so those despots can get your money you seem so willing to give.

None of this is new or is unknown by anyone that really cares about the health of others and the health of our environment.

So play your games with someone that doesn't know what a person of depraved indifference is.

To whom it may concern:
I am NOT congoboy's son, as he inferred in his reply to my comment. Congoboy is neither my spiritual or maternal Father. If he (congoboy) were, I would be embarrassed.

you have a lot of shit on your plate. which shall we consume first? risking world starvation so americans can feel good about themselves and the greenie fuels they use? hmmmm, ridding the world of authoritarian fascist dictators so their people can live like americans? wow had a republican said that leftylibs would be all over them. its not a bad idea though. throw out the rulers then we can take over their oil reserves. be careful what you wish for, especially if you dont follow history or ignore reality. so where is this altruistically promised alternative fuel bp keeps promising everyone? oh we'll get it, as soon as the crude runs dry. peace my son

As usual you didn't or can't comprehend my points.

maybe if they were more concise and clear

maybe the entire middle east uprising was a choreographed conspiratorial event planned by u.s. big oil interests, al gore and john kerry

"Big oil"
"Al Gore"
Pick one, kid

Exactly!

you are getting closer...

oh cmon, let me have some fun. big al's had his hands proudly into many things during his career. wherever the money was or is. remember he used to tout his big tabacco company connections before it became politically incorrect.

Jeepers you're a freaking idiot. You don't know squat about Al Gore and his life. You could find out very easily by reading about him. But then, that would blow your illusion and your fun. So... why bother, ya?

Gore carried big oil's water as a senator and VP.

And he loved ethanol subsidies which led to higher food prices around the world. What compassion!

Ok samthesixth
Produce data to support your claim, otherwise I will consider your post bullshit.

(Your last data producing support when I asked for it, was from opinions posted
on the internet and not from fact-based sources. So, produce facts not others
opinions. NOW is THAT fair enough?)

There are reams of data on Al Gore. Here's a taste teaser of his study and service to America.

Gore was one of the Atari Democrats who were given this name due to their "passion for technological issues, from biomedical research and genetic engineering to the environmental impact of the "greenhouse effect."

On March 19, 1979 he became the first member of Congress to appear on C-SPAN. During this time, Gore co-chaired the Congressional Clearinghouse on the Future with Newt Gingrich.
In addition, he has been described as having been a "genuine nerd, with a geek reputation running back to his days as a futurist Atari Democrat in the House.

Before computers were comprehensible, let alone sexy, the poker-faced Gore struggled to explain artificial intelligence and fiber-optic networks to sleepy colleagues."

Internet pioneers Vint Cerf and Bob Kahn noted that, "as far back as the 1970s, Congressman Gore promoted the idea of high speed telecommunications as an engine for both economic growth and the improvement of our educational system.

He was the first elected official to grasp the potential of computer communications to have a broader impact than just improving the conduct of science and scholarship.

The Internet, as we know it today, was not deployed until 1983. When the Internet was still in the early stages of its deployment, Congressman Gore provided intellectual leadership by helping create the vision of the potential benefits of high speed computing and communication.

24 Jun 1986: Albert Gore introduce S 2594 Supercomputer Network Study Act of 1986. As another example, he sponsored hearings on how advanced technologies might be put to use in areas like coordinating the response of government agencies to natural disasters and other crises."

As a Senator, Gore began to craft the High Performance Computing and Communication Act of 1991 (commonly referred to as "The Gore Bill") after hearing the 1988 report Toward a National Research Network submitted to Congress by a group chaired by UCLA professor of computer science, Leonard Kleinrock, one of the central creators of the ARPANET (the ARPANET, first deployed by Kleinrock and others in 1969, is the predecessor of the Internet).

The bill was passed on December 9, 1991 and led to the National Information Infrastructure (NII) which Gore referred to as the "information superhighway."

After joining the U.S. House of Representatives, Gore held the "first congressional hearings on the climate change, and co-sponsor[ed] hearings on toxic waste and global warming." He continued to speak on the topic throughout the 1980s.

In 1990, Senator Gore presided over a three-day conference with legislators from over 42 countries which sought to create a Global Marshall Plan, "under which industrial nations would help less developed countries grow economically while still protecting the environment."

again by my down votes i can see leftylibs still cant handle reality or the truth. no wonder most of em are on drugs. reality, what a concept!

thanks, its been kinda cold out my way. i could use a hot water bottle. glad your sense of reality is right there along with the rest of your typical leftylib companions

squat hmmmm. well before mr shit for brains biden he was probably the densest vp we'd had in modern history....Gore has targeted the environmental and human rights vote as part of his election campaign and was rated last week as "the most knowledgeable" presidential candidate on green issues by the League of Conservation Voters.

But the U’wa Defense Working Group, which represents the U’wa indigenous group from Northeastern Colombia, says Gore is inextricably linked with Occidental Petroleum, the U.S. oil company that plans to start drilling on its ancestral lands in the next few months in search of an estimated 1.5 billion barrels of oil.

The U’wa have been campaigning for years to stop the drilling, but Gore’s connections to Occidental sprang to the headlines this week when the Financial Times carried a story about environmentalists’ request to the Vice President that he call for Occidental to abandon their drilling plans in Colombia. Gore owns up to half a million dollars of the company’s stock.

And Gore is also facing heat for his involvement in the sale by the Clinton administration of thousands of acres of oil-rich, publicly owned land to Occidental in 1997. The area is known as Elk Hills and it is located in Bakersfield, California. It is known as an ancestral land for Native American communities.AMY GOODMAN: Well, today we are going to be following the money trail in another case, and that is in the case of Vice President Gore and Occidental Petroleum. Environmentalists and human rights activists are accusing the Vice President of hypocrisy over his shareholding in Occidental Petroleum, a company that plans to drill in Colombia’s rainforest over the objections of local indigenous communities.

Gore has targeted the environmental and human rights vote as part of his election campaign and was rated last week as the most knowledgeable presidential candidate on green issues by the League of Conservation Voters.

But the U’wa Defense Working Group, which represents the U’wa indigenous group of Northeastern Colombia, says Gore is inextricably linked with Occidental Petroleum, the US oil giant that plans to start drilling on its ancestral lands in the next few months in search of an estimated one-and-a-half-billion barrels of oil....Here are some of Al's business associates:

convicted cocaine smuggler Jose Cabrera
Howard Glicken, who admitted soliciting and laundering foreign campaign contributions
Franklin Haney, indicted for illegal campaign contributions...In fact, Gore is no more trustworthy than any other politician. Indeed, he may even be more contemptible than most, since he has proven himself willing to exploit personal tragedy for public gain. Remember his emotional, apparently heartfelt comments at the Democratic National Convention about his sister's tobacco-related death? After choking up during the speech, Gore rode a tidal wave of new-found sympathy and respect. Time, for instance, labelled Gore one of its weekly "winners," noting "tears, not smoke, in their eyes as he tells delegates of his sister's battle with lung cancer." In its "Conventional Wisdom Watch," Newsweek similarly praised Gore: "VP kicks butts in speech."

But Gore was hardly being open or honest about his relationship to tobacco, and a fuller accounting of the matter makes it impossible to escape the conclusion that the vice president is little more than a shameless hypocrite who will stop at nothing to pull votes his way.

In his speech, Gore recounted how his sister Nancy had started smoking as a teenager and eventually died from lung cancer at age 45 in 1984. "Three thousand young people in America will start smoking tomorrow," said Gore, who lauded President Clinton's limits on cigarette advertising. "One thousand of them will die a death not unlike my sister's. And that is why until I draw my last breath, I will pour my heart and soul into the cause of protecting our children from the dangers of smoking."

Oddly, though, it took quite a while for this political fire to catch in Gore's belly. While he helped sponsor 1983 legislation that led to new warning labels on tobacco products, until very recently he usually boasted of his tobacco connections. When he ran for the Democratic presidential nomination in 1988--four years after his sister's death--Gore bragged to a North Carolina audience, "Throughout most of my life, I raised tobacco. I want you to know that with my own hands, all of my life, I've sprayed it, I've chopped it, I've shredded it, spiked it, put it in the barn and stripped it, and sold it."

That same year, Gore, then a senator from tobacco-rich Tennessee, wrote a letter to the Arkansas Democrat-Gazette stating, "I do not believe the answer to curbing our nation's tobacco use lies in banning tobacco advertising or in prohibiting tobacco use"--two policies he now backs vociferously.

There's more: The day after his speech at this year's Democratic convention, he admitted to receiving campaign donations from tobacco companies through 1990 (the Democratic National Comittee still accepts such funds). He also acknowledged that his family continued to grow tobacco on their farm and that he got paid for leasing additional property for tobacco production for years after his sister's death...

We all know Al Gore, “the ex-next President of the United States,” the man who scarcely lost his election to George Bush in 2000. Most people also know that he served as Vice President with Bill Clinton for 8 years. What you might not know about him is that his father also was a politician; he was a U.S. Representative and senator of Tennessee for 32 years. With his father’s busy life, Al Jr. was born in Washington D.C, but also spent a lot of time being raised in Carthage, Tennessee on his family’s farm. He went to college at Harvard and graduated in 1969, soon after he volunteered to go to Vietnam as a news reporter for the U.S Army. After he came back from Vietnam he attended Vanderbilt University Divinity and Law School, but won a seat in Congress before he got a degree. As for his political life, I can imagine that you know the story.

Al Gore’s film An Inconvenient Truth does indeed have some correct facts, but as he even says himself, sometimes you have to over-exaggerate to send the message to people:

Q. There's a lot of debate right now over the best way to communicate about global warming and get people motivated. Do you scare people or give them hope? What's the right mix?

A. I think the answer to that depends on where your audience's head is. In the United States of America, unfortunately we still live in a bubble of unreality. And the Category 5 denial is an enormous obstacle to any discussion of solutions. Nobody is interested in solutions if they don't think there's a problem. Given that starting point, I believe it is appropriate to have an over-representation of factual presentations on how dangerous it is, as a predicate for opening up the audience to listen to what the solutions are, and how hopeful it is that we are going to solve this crisis.

(Interview with Grist Magazine’s David Roberts and Al Gore about An Inconvenient Truth)

Al Gore said this, so how are we supposed to know fact from fiction in the global warming debate? The following paragraphs will inform the reader of the false claims, the facts, the selective facts and tactics to scare and advertise.

Throughout the film, he made inferences to his personal and political life, which has nothing to do with global warming. When he wasn’t lecturing about his personal life, he was lecturing about how global warming is man-made.

have fun

i know right? the importance of being green far outweighs feeding people

Finally someone else who is not afraid to discuss the Gore-big oil connection. Thank you!

fuck that dude has or has had his hands dirtied by anything that'll make him a buck and everything the leftylibs despise. but he is both a messiah and a democrat, so its hands off for them.

what fun!

reminds me of the kid who would get mad and take his football home so nobody can play with it

The UN has issued a denunciation against Gaddafi, but are you calling on the USA to police this also? Maybe a discreet UAV.

Oh no, we have our noses in enough other peoples business. I was just maybe hoping for a random act of brutality from say, someone he owes money to, I am not particular about "How" he goes away. It just seems to me that He has been doing this type of thing his whole life, and for some reason he is being called on the carpet.

someone has to stop the madness

I have to say ...sometimes I also have wondered why there isn't at least one 007 on our payrole.

Thank you. A little history goes a long way.

Tough or old and out of touch? But like Castro, he does have a back-up plan and is tenacious. I guess we will see. I t may take more nations willing to help as we can not keep our troops deployed forever.

I am sure you are right, but I based MHO on a recent photo and he looked very old, what is his age anyway? I do hope he remains Nuke-less. A uav or drone would be interesting.as a way to take him out, I mean.

bu the looks of him he's been drugged up for quite a while

Oil Gods ROFL so true he will not win this battle

We tax payers are paying for this, it is a black budget item so we will never see the actual corrupt practices. We need to cut defense spending and see some sunlight on the books.

Correct Mary J S. But, I say go further and remove all troops from the entire Middle East. Haven't the republicans been screaming that we can't afford ourselves? Why then, should we be doing the dirty work of the oil industry with our military? Let the oil industry fend and pay for themselves. The truer profits of the oil industry should reflect the sums which the public spends on protecting their interests in the Middle East. Wouldn't you rather have militant Muslims angry at Oil, than at the United States? On a simple affordability basis, we can not afford to have our military in the Middle East! We must get them out now. Educating our children is more important than dominating the Middle East. Providing Medicare and Social Security to those who need it is more important than dominating the Middle East. The bottom line, WE are more important than dominating the Middle East.

I do agree with all of the above. But the Corporate voice is heard and the Citizen's voice is not at this point in time. I am angry about the current state of affairs, am I alone?

Yes bring them home now!

No, MJ, you are not alone. But the people have not realized that they must raise their voices beyond the point of civility, because corporate money has deafened our legislator's hearing. Even more, because people have never been put to the test as we now are, it does not regularly occur to us that we must rapidly move beyond the voice to physical action, because we can no longer depend on our legislators to do their constitutional duties. MJ, we must start marching on our capitols now! Let's get their attention, and we can talk later. But right now, all government hearing aids are turned off. What's left to do? March.

for at least the last twenty years...

Uh, as I remember, we tried that several times already. Remember the plane crash he survived years ago? Finally he sent us his Nukes and drank the koolaid. Oil may not be the biggest issue here in our immediate future. Stabilizing the ME could be first on the menu. We need a platform to withdraw our troops surely one day soon. No telling where we might be needed next. These wars are bleeding the working class Americans to death.

beachbound is saying that he needs to be assassinated, not that "we need to try again to assassinate him". What does that say for the efficiency of our CIA when they couldn't take that guy out during all that time. Of course, we'll never know the extent of Bush's sweetheart deal with him, and what led up to it.

However, Mary J S, since oil is the singular reason that we have implicated ourselves into the politics and governance of the Middle East all these decades, and oil is so incredibly rich with cash, why should the people be supporting troops in the Middle East to look after the interests of oil alone? Our pallid efforts in spreading democracy there have failed miserably; if government ever truly wanted democracy there. We can not afford to be there NOW, and NOW is the time when we should force government to bring our troops home.

Once he met terms he was allowed to stay on stage. I was against the Iraq War the second we learned about it. Libyans are trying to gain democracy-a good thing. We need to fine tune our Empire here, but at present we do not seem to have the tools or inclination. We can not win in the middle-east all we do is create more terrorists by occupying their country. Revolutions may change for the better-democracy, but that is not a given. It could start one hell of a fire that we will bear stark witness to. The Neo-Cons and their Project for a New American Century took us into this with their eyes wide open. With phony intel/lies. Why not end the War? Is it worth it? What keeps us there? When our veterans come home will we take care of them? Does any of this sound familiar?

reagan almost did it. unfortunately it was a failed attempt

It all sounds familiar. Can you help organize marches in your community?

While I am capable of defending my home I do have medical problems that limit my mobility. When and where do these marches begin? The right wingers would probably shut down state borders, but there are other possibilities. Have you thought of any?

Gadhafi will probably 'retire' after he picks a straw man to take over. He will require persuasion, though. Like Mubarak. Thing is if the people of Libya aren't careful they may get stuck with a even bigger monster capable of even worse oppression and civil rights abuses. Planning is key to success in these revolts. The CIA could lend a hand? Just kidding.

I second the thought. The whole effort could be lost and in a domino-effect. Maybe the Neo-Cons planned for this contingency back when they started this rodeo? Gee, we should ask Perle, Rumsfeld, Cheney, and little George.

scary for israel

Only problem with that plan is all the other Arab states are seeing changes in their own borders as well. I doubt that the people in those states would support a man like Qaddafi, especially knowing that many, if not all, suffered from the same oppression that he imposed on his own people.