Community | February 25, 2011 | 107 comments

Wisconsin assembly passes bill to take away union rights

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Republicans in the Wisconsin Assembly took the first significant action on their plan to strip collective bargaining rights from most public workers, abruptly passing the measure early Friday morning before sleep-deprived Democrats realized what was happening.

The vote ended three straight days of punishing debate in the Assembly. But the political standoff over the bill — and the monumental protests at the state Capitol against it — appear far from over.

The Assembly's vote sent the bill on to the Senate, but minority Democrats in that house have fled to Illinois to prevent a vote. No one knows when they will return from hiding. Republicans who control the chamber sent state troopers out looking for them at their homes on Thursday, but they turned up nothing.

"I applaud the Democrats in the Assembly for earnestly debating this bill and urge their counterparts in the state Senate to return to work and do the same," Assembly Speaker Jeff Fitzgerald, R-Horicon, said in a statement issued moments after the vote.

The plan from Republican Gov. Scott Walker contains a number of provisions he says are designed to fill the state's $137 million deficit and lay the groundwork for fixing a projected $3.6 billion shortfall in the upcoming 2011-13 budget.

The flashpoint is language that would require public workers to contribute more to their pensions and health insurance and strip them of their right to collectively bargain benefits and work conditions.

Democrats and unions see the measure as an attack on workers' rights and an attempt to cripple union support for Democrats. Union leaders say they would make pension and health care concessions if they can keep their bargaining rights, but Walker has refused to compromise.

Tens of thousands of people have jammed the Capitol since last week to protest, pounding on drums and chanting so loudly that police providing security have resorted to ear plugs. Hundreds have taken to sleeping in the building overnight, dragging in air mattresses and blankets.

With the Senate immobilized, Assembly Republicans decided to act and convened the chamber Tuesday morning.

Democrats launched a filibuster, throwing out dozens of amendments and delivering rambling speeches. Each time Republicans tried to speed up the proceedings, Democrats rose from their seats and wailed that the GOP was stifling them.

Debate had gone on for 60 hours and 15 Democrats were still waiting to speak when the vote started around 1 a.m. Friday. Speaker Pro Tem Bill Kramer, R-Waukesha, opened the roll and closed it within seconds.

Democrats looked around, bewildered. Only 13 of the 38 Democratic members managed to vote in time.

Republicans immediately marched out of the chamber in single file. The Democrats rushed at them, pumping their fists and shouting "Shame!" and "Cowards!"

The Republicans walked past them without responding.

Democrats left the chamber stunned. The protesters greeted them with a thundering chant of "Thank you!" Some Democrats teared up. Others hugged.

"What a terrible, terrible day for Wisconsin," said Rep. Jon Richards, D-Milwaukee. "I am incensed. I am shocked."

GOP leaders in the Assembly refused to speak with reporters, but earlier Friday morning Majority Leader Scott Suder, R-Abbotsford, warned Democrats that they had been given 59 hours to be heard and Republicans were ready to vote.

The governor has said that if the bill does not pass by Friday, the state will miss a deadline to refinance $165 million of debt and will be forced to start issuing layoff notices next week. However, the deadline may not as strict as he says.

The nonpartisan Legislative Fiscal Bureau said earlier this week that the debt refinancing could be pushed back as late as Tuesday to achieve the savings Walker wants. Based on a similar refinancing in 2004, about two weeks are needed after the bill becomes law to complete the deal. That means if the bill is adopted by the middle of next week, the state can still meet a March 16 deadline, the Fiscal Bureau said.

Democratic Sen. Jon Erpenbach said he and his colleagues wouldn't return until Walker compromised.
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107 comments // Wisconsin assembly passes bill to take away union rights

  • maltesetitan
    • +1
      maltesetitan  
    • Without Unions this country would not be or have what it has today. My Dad is 89 years old and he still can tell you about what this country was like when businesses steel companies major factories like FORD, GM, BOWING, cabinet companies, Insurance companies, Banks, and i could go on and Food stores did not care about the people that worked for them. If you were hurt on the job lost a hand an arm a foot in a mach or had hot metal or plastic hit you in the eye and put and eye out and you were the main income provider. But now you were hurt and you still had to work to pay for food to feed your family. Your employer put you in the same job or in a job that made less money because you got hurt and were not as good of a worker to that him anymore so you now made less money BECAUSE YOU GOT HURT IT WAS YOUR FAULT! Not the fault of the employer for not providing you with the right equipment to do the job in the first place? No not that the employer should have provided a pair of glasses that would have prevented the employee from losing an eye when a piece of hot plastic came out of a hot mold at about 780 degrees. A Union protects workers if it was not for Unions employers of major companies would have never paid pensions, health care beneifits, benefits to the spouse it the husband or wife is killed on the job. Companies would be free to do what they want.
      It was Unions that made these things a reality. So when anyone tries to destroy a Union they are trying to destroy your only protection you as a worker have weather you are in a Union or not because OSHA was created because of Union's and the Repubilcans or major business say if we get rid of Unions we can compete with China BULL!!!
      China is a Communist Country and all you ever hear from the Republicans is how this person and that person is a Communist.
      But when it suits their needs to do their dirty work they make it out as though a Communist Country is something they look up too to get their way.
      This is what you call TWO FACED!

      Signed, Col KC

    • 2 years ago
  • bambuu
    • +2
      bambuu  
    • I've been really frustrated and angry with MSM for not covering the actual facts and I'm angry with all this Republican right-wing rhetoric that it gives me a headache. There is nothing positive at all about the Republicans and tea party. I want too defeat these turds in 2012.

    • 2 years ago
  • Milieu
  • bailey78
    • 0
      bailey78  
    • Milieu:

      Well whats He going to do talk them to death?? He is just a talking head. Just because you like what He says does not mean he is going to save you from the rethugs.

    • 2 years ago
  • katyids
  • LICENTIOUS
    • +1
      LICENTIOUS  
    • With a high school GED and no previous work experience a person can get a UNION job WITH health benefits - very few other employers offer comparable jobs.

      Some UNION jobs like the IronWorkers have trade schools that pay workers to attend school and work (they call the school "PUNK" schools - lol)

      I am not saying that all jobs should be UNION jobs - but there are jobs where UNIONs make sense.

      Support UNION workers so that they can support their families with a decent wage and health care. Avoid Sam’s Club, Walmart other large non-union stores. Support Union and Union like stores like COSTCO that have bargaining agreements with their employees.

      The UNION played a large role in shaping America's labor laws, benefits, and working conditions, which still exists today.

      THE WEEKEND IS BROUGHT TO YOU BY THE UNIONS - enjoy it........

    • 2 years ago
  • katyids
    • +1
      katyids  
    • i'm no mathematician, but I am trying to figure this out. Help. Okay, based on $10.00 an hour (without considering raises), and 5% investment in pensions.
      At 40 hours a week, 52 weeks in a year, and working 30 years. The worker would have $31,200 plus interest. This does not include however much the company paid. It's not all that much money. So this is what is bringing down the country, eh?
      Now is this the amount of money that was speculated away, and lost on wall street? If this is the story, then I am even more p.o'd.
      Have you watched the Ed Show the last couple nights. Good stuff. I emailed the Pres about talking up the unions. 'bout time he speaks up!

    • 2 years ago
  • pawms1
  • bike10
  • katyids
  • Leen61
  • tverdell
    • +5
      tverdell  
    • Leen61:

      This article deserves a separate thread.

      Basically, the Koch brothers say they are taking this fight nation-wide, Wisconsin is the beginning.

      Is anyone paying attention?

    • 2 years ago
  • katyids
  • fudoki
    • +7
      fudoki  
    • Voters keep electing Republican extremists who hate America. Don't whine when they turn the place into Mexico...

    • 2 years ago
  • Demtothecore
  • katyids
    • 0
      katyids  
    • Demtothecore:

      God, yes. I have been trying to figure this one out for years. When the tea parties were on tv, I'd look at all these old farts holding signs saying something to the effect of "keep the gov out of my health care", while they are collecting SSI, medicare, and other senior services. And while they want the gov to stay out of their health care, they do want to go into the doctor's office to make sure a woman isn't getting an abortion. But I digress..

    • 2 years ago
  • royulery
  • Tim_Patrick
  • Leen61
  • awizard2u
  • tverdell
  • Leen61
    • +2
      Leen61  
    • tverdell:

      This is the GOP's seizure of Democray. This is fascism right before our eyes. Next we will see the GOP calling out the capitol police to haul away their Democratic counterparts for displays of Democracy.

    • 2 years ago
  • Leen61
  • katyids
    • +2
      katyids  
    • Leen61:

      It is kind of like the assembly in G Britain. Man, the Tories and Whips yell and stomp their feet. It is pretty fun to watch, but we are definitely not used to that. I loved hearing them yell, "shame". This is democracy. Wonderful, disgusting, frustrating, cooperative. horrifying, helpful. If we keep going after these people, they will not win in 2012.

      We'll either be a third world country, or we'll put them in their places.

      Did you hear christy (NJ) talk about "two groups of people, the ones with the benefits and those who pay for them." I don't think most of us would have divided it up this way.

    • 2 years ago
  • Leen61
    • +1
      Leen61  
    • katyids:

      You nailed it with your post, katyids. This is a picture of working class America fighting for their survival in the halls of government, which is supposed to be of the people, by the people and for the people. I'm so glad there are still people in this country willing to show what that means.

    • 2 years ago
  • Nancy_J_Powell
  • FoosMaster
    • +2
      FoosMaster  
    • Even if they decide to pass it without the Dems in the Senate, which I think they will attempt, it Will be challenged in the courts and would Certainly Loose! No matter what happens, I believe the courts are going to throw this out.

    • 2 years ago
  • bambuu
  • chew_chew
    • +7
      chew_chew  
    • FoosMaster:

      My heart wants to agree with you about the courts making this right.

      But my head remembers that it was the radical-right-wing-heavy Supreme Court who opened the flood gates for corporations to buy as many politicians as they could afford, without the politicians - or the corporations, OR the foreign country(ies) - needing to disclose where the funds originated. Which in turn opened the flood gates for unlimited corporate and/or foreign spending on political advertising. Which in turn opened the flood gates that brought us the current crop of radical right wing big-money puppet-politicians who are attempting to systematically dismantle our Democracy.

      The way to resolve this is for the politicians to listen to the people's wishes instead of their (the politicians) corporate (perhaps even, foreign) paymasters. The only way I can see that happening though (although, I am sure there are many ways it could happen), is by *peaceful* demonstration in numbers SO large, we cannot be ignored.

      This is what I believe I can contribute: participating in peaceful demonstration. And I will.

    • 2 years ago
  • FoosMaster
  • Nancy_J_Powell
  • chew_chew
  • Demtothecore
  • awizard2u
    • +1
      awizard2u  
    • bambuu:

      Isn't that the truth? Just like the Bush/Gore election and the United Citizen travesty. Unfortunately, I believe we are losing the " checks and balance" our founders designed. The " fourth" arm of government, the media, doesn't do what it should anymore, so I can't be optimistic about the outcome, but I am hopeful.

    • 2 years ago
  • theknopfknows
    • -2
      theknopfknows  
    • WISCONSIN YOU LOSE, THIS ONE, BETTER LEARN , MING. CORPORATE COMMUNISM DAVID KOCH VISION; SLAVERY CORPORATE STYLE: CHOP STICKS CHOP STICKS DEATH BY 1000 CUTS! WISCONSIN!

    • 2 years ago
  • wyndesonge
    • +7
      wyndesonge  
    • Steamrolling the minority at one o'clock in the morning. Bravely done. Koch-thugs are profiles in courage. "Get the grandkids and I'll tell them about the time I screwed the working folks when no one was looking" "Oh! Oh! The sun is coming up! Quick, lock the capitol doors."

    • 2 years ago
  • Nancy_J_Powell
  • noxidereus
  • bambuu
    • +5
      bambuu  
    • Are the liberals and progressives happy that they stayed home this past Nov and didn't vote? I mean the Republicans and the tea party dismantled ACORN, now they are going after the worker's rights, they're going after women's rights, they're killing jobs.

      As a very progressive NYC liberal who has stood by President Obama and continues to stand by him and the Democrats since day one. Every single progressive who didn't go out and vote this past Nov needs to be slapped and I mean a wake up slap.

      I live in NYC and I don't know what else I can do to help the progressive cause I voted for and supported Anthony Weiner and I donated money to Russ Feingold and to Bill Halter I even sent some money to Grayson. But that seems to not be enough.

    • 2 years ago
  • Demtothecore
    • +2
      Demtothecore  
    • bambuu:

      I feel your pain but we in California listened and look what we did. Now we need to rid ourself and the rest of the US of Issa this November or when he up to bat and you can believe it will happen.

    • 2 years ago
  • awizard2u
    • +1
      awizard2u  
    • bambuu:

      Anthony Weiner is a REALLY good guy! To answer your question, "I don't know". I have also done what I can in Calif. but it doesn't seem to be enough. Just keep trying to have our collective voices heard, I guess.

    • 2 years ago
  • katyids
    • 0
      katyids  
    • bambuu:

      compared to scott walker, the guy who was running against Lane county (OR) us House rep Peter defazio was a total jackass. Art Robinson. Whew. He was a strong second to Peter defazio. Global warming is fraud (this from a biologist) , home schooling is the only way to go. He even put together a curriculum that was completely based on a practically extinct set of "history" books. They referred to dark skinned people as children, cute and even fun, but they need to be taken care of. Maddow tried to interview him, and even she felt frustrated that she couldn't find a place where he made sense. Guess where he got all his money? One person on the east coast. Don't remember who or where anymore.

      Many people I know on SSI etc don't vote. I did everything I could to convince them of the importance of the midterm. Their response -- politics are stupid. Both sides are the same, they just fight about the same things. It is hard to even talk to them anymore. Ya, I want to slap 'em.

    • 2 years ago
  • katyids
  • mitekillem
    • +2
      mitekillem  
    • First Amendment:
      Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to ASSEMBLE, and to PETITION the Government for a redress of GRIEVANCES.

      -They cannot outlaw collective bargaining. It is a right.
      Republicans want to change the constitution and take away our rights.

    • 2 years ago
  • mitekillem
    • +2
      mitekillem  
    • I'm betting the deficit was created by cutting taxes to corporations and the rich.

      Republicans were right, their first issue is Jobs. -Killing Jobs.

    • 2 years ago
  • awizard2u
    • +1
      awizard2u  
    • mitekillem:

      Prior to the union attack by Walker he gave the wealthest a $137,000,000 tax break! Wisconsin actually had a surplus prior to that. Besides, his union busting does not affect the budget. It's all wrong!

    • 2 years ago
  • katyids
  • katyids
  • GypsyO
  • bailey78
    • 0
      bailey78  
    • To all the folks that this is going to effect. Please GO ON STRIKE! take time off from work if you have a job. Take a trip out of town. Better yet sprang something then take sick leave,

    • 2 years ago
  • bertfish
  • Fishinflick
  • katyids
  • Progresshiv
  • bailey78
  • Nephwrack
    • +1
      Nephwrack  
    • perhaps all the civil workers should go on a sort of limited strike. when the garbage starts piling up in the capital building maybe the bastard rethugs will get the message.

    • 2 years ago
  • bailey78
  • tverdell
  • katyids
    • 0
      katyids  
    • bailey78:

      there you go. I remember when the new york garbage people went on strike. Don't remember how long it lasted, but wooo, it stunk and was piled sky high. Don't remember who won, do you bambuu?

    • 2 years ago
  • figgdimension
    • +2
      figgdimension  
    • I'm opening a wayward home for disenfranchised Democrats they are welcome to stay here as long as needed...We'll keep them safe from the Imperial walker mini mubarek ...They sure are punctual when its about lining their pockets ya know!

    • 2 years ago
  • chew_chew
    • +2
      chew_chew  
    • The protests need to be louder than ever, now. Protests about not just union rights, but also protests about our civil liberties systematically being pirated. The radical right seems to call everyone but themselves tyrants, while their actions show exactly the opposite.

      Some of our American (and human) liberties were stolen today.

    • 2 years ago
  • Arizona_Huey
    • +5
      Arizona_Huey  
    • Sadly, I find myself fighting off the urge to scream "I TOLD YOU SO" about all of the political shenanigans that are going on today due to the gross stupidity, ignorance, and laziness of the vast majority of the voters. Instead of taking the time to research and understand who and what they were voting for, they just sat there and let the Koch bros, big oil, corporations, Dick Armey, and Fox decide. Now, we have nothing but extreme right wing nut jobs trying to finish off the job done by the shrub and his band of criminals. Personally, I torn sometimes at being pissed off and sitting back and thinking: Congrats - you voted them in, you deserve this.

    • 2 years ago
  • Nephwrack
  • JanforGore
    • +2
      JanforGore  
    • Arizona_Huey:

      Yes it was and is a stealth attack under the guise of the "tea party" that feigned support for "the people." Only they didn't tell those they hoodwinked that it was the people who are in the 1% who own the majority of wealth.

    • 2 years ago
  • awizard2u
    • +1
      awizard2u  
    • Arizona_Huey:

      I have exactly the same thoughts. I saw it coming even before the Bush dynasty took over. There WAS a right wing conspiracy against the Clintons and little by little the right has duped the stupid ones to vote for their agenda and when that doesn't work the courts are now aligned to assist them. I fear our democracy as we know it will be seriously threatened if the Repubs gain the Senate and the White house!

    • 2 years ago
  • katyids
    • +1
      katyids  
    • awizard2u:

      Oh, horrible thought. one of the thing that gets me is that a lot of these people who call themselves christians think we're on the way to the Rapture (thanks to tim lahaye). Why don't they all just go home, hang out, smoke a bowl, and wait to disappear? Let the rest of us (who think we'll be around for awhile) get on with living.

    • 2 years ago
  • GypsyO
    • +1
      GypsyO  
    • Arizona_Huey:

      Instead of taking the time to research and understand who and what they were voting for, they just sat there and let the Koch bros, big oil, corporations, Dick Armey, and Fox decide.
      You are SO right, I absolutely could not believe that people were so stupid to not research or even understand what was going to happen if they were truly uninformed and didn't "think" before they voted.

    • 2 years ago
  • GypsyO
  • Oldstyle1991
  • bailey78
  • COMMONSENSEFORCOMMONGOOD_COM
    • +2
      COMMONSENSEFORCOMMONGOOD_COM  
    • On one hand, it almost seems as though Republicans are striving hard to instigate physical conflict, so that they can justify calling out troops with live ammo! This entire affair may have far more sinisiter implications than even Union Busting.

    • 2 years ago
  • COMMONSENSEFORCOMMONGOOD_COM
    • +1
      COMMONSENSEFORCOMMONGOOD_COM  
    • On one hand, can we not thank Walker for not meeting the modest Union demands, which will now lead to a greater contest which may result in Walker being physically carried out of the Capitol building with a "do not return order"?

      Perhaps this was a calculated move to let House Dems go pick up their pay checks, knowing that the Senators will continue to stay away and prevent a passing of the legislation.

      If it wasn't intentional, it still might be propitious. However, wouldn't it be laughable if the protesters carried all of the anti Americans activist republicans right out of that capitol, into the streets?

    • 2 years ago
  • katyids
  • Luvcreole
    • +1
      Luvcreole  
    • Please spare us the gallant "Democrats tried in vain to stop the Republicans" spin. The Dems are only playing a role...since they helped destroy the industrial/manufacturing base of this nation passing NAFTA and other "trade bills" The unions are complicit in that they trusted a corrupted system of govt. fo far too long. Particularly the well paid leadership more so than the people.

    • 2 years ago
  • Oldstyle1991
  • katyids
  • cantucwearebrothers
    • 0
      cantucwearebrothers  
    • As much as it's difficult to watch all of this going down...it's exactly what needs to happen. The people need to be brought to a point where they are so pissed off that they can do nothing but act.

    • 2 years ago
  • COMMONSENSEFORCOMMONGOOD_COM
  • cantucwearebrothers
  • katyids
  • Nephwrack
  • the1union1man2organize
  • bobbysgurl
    • +1
      bobbysgurl  
    • hindotka:

      Your tax base is your working class. If you destroy the unions, you are basically destroying a part of the working class and a part of your middle class. No workie, no payie taxes.

      Let's see you get tax dollars from the Koch brothers and the other super rich people like him. These people are out to control this country more than they do now. Why roll over and play dead while they do it.

      It always amazes me how people who will never be able to have any personal connection with these modern day robber barons, defend the vile actions of these people.

    • 2 years ago
  • MizPiz
    • 0
      MizPiz  
    • hindotka:

      Yes, having people who millions and billions of dollars pay a little bit more than those who barely make it through the day is completely unfair, it's better just to take away someone's freedom of speech.

      Oh wait, this is you I'm talking too.

      Why do you hate America?

    • 2 years ago
  • samthesixth
  • Demtothecore
  • katyids
    • +1
      katyids  
    • hindotka:

      Brown's run was the best I have ever seen. When his opponent (already forgot her name) went on about how 30 years ago, cali was full of opportunity, blah, blah, and Brown immediately came out with the ad reminding people that 30 years ago, he was the governor. Talk about not vetting. Some repub so lost his/her job that day.
      The unions are the only thing that will get us out of this. certainly the wealthy ain't gonna do it.

    • 2 years ago
  • littlwarrior
    • +2
      littlwarrior  
    • If republicans are willing to shut down government to preserve tax cuts for the rich I hop the dems are willing to shut down Wisconsin state government to preserve the rights of the people.

    • 2 years ago
  • COMMONSENSEFORCOMMONGOOD_COM
  • tverdell
  • littlwarrior
    • 0
      littlwarrior  
    • tverdell:

      Just because my toenails are painted black glitter with pink stripes, don't pass out drunk while the hags are doing their nails its a mistake, don't mean my foot will hurt less when it meets someones face.

    • 2 years ago
  • mistro
    • 0
      mistro  
    • ..so much fucking corruption is going on right under all our very noses we need to stand up and do something! the government works for us not against us and somewhere they forgot about that but not anymore this could be the beginning to something very big and if anyone has the chance to protest then by all means do it before it gets even more out of hand and we become a third world country...they have taken advantage of us for to long and its time to end it! we need to stand up and make them stop! make them bring jobs back! investigate every single government officials bank accounts and see who is getting pay offs! we need to do something people we are losing this battle!

    • 2 years ago
  • Tyr
    • +3
      Tyr  
    • What is telling is the fact that these cowards fled in a private elevator and an exit sealed off from the protesters..shame is what motivates that kind of exit, not pride. If they really felt what they did was moral they would have proudly walked among the citizens and have big smiles...no instead they ran from the people like the cockroaches they are when the lights are turned on!

    • 2 years ago
  • A_Liberal_Child
    • +3
      A_Liberal_Child  
    • living in this state i can say that the facsism is alive and well. the reps acted like
      "ok we heard your pleas, but we are going to do what we want anyway" and that is CRAP!! Wisconsin does diserver better Walker, Better then YOU! This is not how politics should be!

    • 2 years ago
  • Sandman911
  • samthesixth
  • SoCalFramer
    • +1
      SoCalFramer  
    • Image
    • Facsism is alive and well in Wisconsin. Nation wide rallys on Saturday organized by moveon.org, get your families together and attend. This could be our last stand so get up off your asses and go you dirty liberals.

    • 2 years ago
  • Proud_Progressive
    • +3
      Proud_Progressive  
    • The funny thing is they just burned whatever ability they had to claim the high road in this battle, and they get nothing out of it. The Senate can't pass it.

    • 2 years ago
  • Leen61
    • +3
      Leen61  
    • The Reps slammed throught the budget repair bill last night cutting off the remainder of the debate. Taking a vote in almost ambush style. The Dems are outraged. The bill is still dead in the water because the Dems are still out of state.

    • 2 years ago
  • tverdell
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