For warned is for armed. Even if it is stalled, a few more slave class protests like in Michigan and it will be back up and running. The satanic elite *Bilderburg group, look it up* They pick the 2 candidates (Dem and Rep), so no matter who the people/sheeple vote for, the elite win- so pointing fingers at each other's party and saying it was their pres. who made the bill, is silly since they are all run by the same people. Until Americans can see past the smoke and mirrors of the corporate media, and the propaganda machine they will never be able to take back America, which has been hijacked by crooks, criminals and the corrupt. There should be a mandatory yearly lie detector test given to all those who want to serve in public/government office with a few simple questions asked, For example "Have you or any members of your staff, made a law, bill, regulation, back room deal, etc that has infringed or taken away any Americans rights, liberties or freedoms, and have any of those deals harmed human health or the environment?" If they fail, they don't serve.

This article above is a crock of crap, written by an anti-Obama idiot of very limited intelligence. ALL of the tightened security in this country including The Real ID Act of 2005, and the most privacy threatening act ever, The Patriot Act, were all actually created by the BUSH administration following the 9/11 events.

All you have to do is look at the dates of when these things were instituted to realize they all were created 5 to 7 years before Obama even took office.

Idiots.

Wow. Look at all these trolls. You must be saying something right.

All these clueless apathetic fence sitters are in denial. As if the police state could be chalked up to the "democrats or republicans". News flash! There's no difference.

Thanks for writing this. Forget about these government pay-rolled propaganda agents.. There are 85 corporate government contracts out for "perception management" just for the internet alone..

(If you are posting in opposition to this article because you think you object to its content and are not being paid to do so. It might be an indication that you are under the spell of government propaganda and should take a good hard, serious look at the world around you.)

"The individual is handicapped by coming face-to-face with a conspiracy so monstrous he cannot believe it exists" J. Edgar Hoover

Do you trust the gov't?

Not only is this story old - its false. The card in question is being mulled over by EVERY first-world nation. And it work first began during a certain REPUBLICAN's turn at the presidential wheel.

With that out of the way - the technology was not deemed possible for State IDS and they don't have a way to pay for it if it was. The last time it was discussed the Bush administration commissioned the technology to be explored for Passports. Again, this is also going on in virtually every "free state" you can think of.

I call this article or blog post pure crap! Even the wikipedia article the author cited says the law has been stalled and Obama opposed it from the beginning!

"Among the 2008 presidential candidates, according to a February 2008 CNet report at news.com, John McCain strongly supported the Real ID Act, Barack Obama and Ron Paul flatly opposed it, while Hillary Clinton called for the law to be reviewed.[22]"

This 'story' has been kicked around since 2005 and the same lies are told in each one. Personal data stored, GPS, tracking chips..... All FALSE!! http://www.snopes.com/politics/traffic/realid.asp

why blame obama for this, it was conceived and passed by the bush administration..just another thing for obama to clean up from that terrible 8 years of bush..sure, i do wish it wasn't kept so quiet, but lets put the blame on the appropriate administration..

I already carry 8 freakin I.d.s. Do we really need this, because thanks to China a signal scrambler the size of a credit card are getting cheaper and cheaper. In your face free trade agreement.

"No one is talking about this... and certainly, this is something the Obama administration would like to keep quiet.

Barack Obama's America is quickly becoming Nazi Germany. Did you ever think you would experience invasive, Big Brother tactics in which uniformed officers ask: "Let me see your papers?"

I "KNOW" Barack Obama doesn't care what the U.S. Constitution says. SO WE HAVE TO CARE, AND WE HAVE TO STOP HIM."

I care, that is why I call you on your BS: the law was passed under BUSH, in 2005.

Where the hell where you THEN, Bubba?????

@herbalYODA:

"All your data can now be skimmed and hacked from 200 yds as WA bought the hackable rfid proven in front of Congress. Same for your passport and CC. "

Well, no, not really. Washington state's EDL stores your DL number and nothing more - there's no power for anything more as it's an E-field card. So in this case "all your data" is basically a 12 digit number. 200 yards would be pushing it and would require all sort of caveats - a purpose built reader, no other cards in the field etc. For the most part, you can get 20-30 feet pretty easily, which fits the design goal of reading them as you drive past a checkpoint at the Canadian border.

Your passport and CC use h-field parts, not distance readable. PASS is distance readable, but is not a passport. You occasionally see clueless journalists conflating the two.

Not that I'm really hot on REAL ID, but the 'article' here is full of bovine excremental data.

"This is the type of card the Nazi's and the communists in the Soviet Union made people carry."

This isn't an internal passport - it's more of a minimum standard for state ID. The kicker here is the national storage of data. The Feds really shouldn't have open access to it, if they want that they should have to get a warrant to get it from the state.

"The new cards, disguised as a uniform drivers' license, will be biometric. Each card will store up to a gigabyte of personal data about the card holder AND will contain a GPS tracking chip---so that means the government will know where you are at all times"

Wow, that doesn't make much sense, does it? First, I don't see any requirements for biometric data. Not that they couldn't do so, it just doesn't seem to require it, other than a photo - maybe you could call that biometric with a big stretch.

Next, what would be the point of "storing up to a gigabyte of data" on the card? That's the sort of boogey-man urban legend junk you generally see attached to the tiresome "Mark O'Beast" chain emails. There would NEVER be any reason to store a lot of data on card, for oh so many reasons. One, it's a precept in database design that you don't store data redundantly like that - it tends to all get out of sync. Why have it there to start with? All you need is a unique index into a central database - which is exactly what's going to happen. Putting the user's data on a card you can't access, update, or secure would be nuts from the gubmint's POV. It does sound all eeeeevil and spooky though, even if it makes no sense at all.

Third, hate to tell you, there IS no "GPS chip", in the sense that there exists some component which allows the user to be "tracked by satellite!!". That's not how GPS works, sorry. GPS satellites provide excruciatingly accurate time data. Given that, and the satellite ephemeris, you can calculate your position from the observed time-of-flight of the satellite signals. The receiver knows its position from the satellite data, not the other way around. Not to mention a dozen other issues with this trope - GPS is relatively power intensive due to the frequency involved and the number of calculations required. You'd need a battery and an antenna. Not to mention its overall pointlessness - any device interrogating your putative REAL ID card knows where it's at anyway - having the card also know is sort of like having a gigabyte of data on the card - totally pointless.

At any rate, the larger objection to REAL might be its unconstitutionality, the questionable need for yet another central database of data on private citizens, and the bureaucracy needed to support and maintain it. If someone needs an ID for a nuke plant or whatnot, make an adhoc ID for that (or use the already existing government DL). REAL has no real need to exist.

I covered this in 2010 right before WA DL mandated it in all renewals. All your data can now be skimmed and hacked from 200 yds as WA bought the hackable rfid proven in front of Congress. Same for your passport and CC. Stock up on aluminum foil.

1) "This is the type of card the Nazi's and the communists in the Soviet Union made people carry."

How so? Not really elaborating on that point. So they both insisted that localities verify identity before issuing ID? This is pretty much akin to saying that Nazis and Communists breathed oxygen, so perhaps we should stop.

2) Gig of data, biometric, GPS.

All lies anyway. Source, please? Right-wing lunatic chain mails don't count, by the way. Anything in the bill about it? Or are we supposed to believe that this sourceless e-mail written by someone who doesn't realize that 2005 was before 2008 has the REAL truth, and the actual bill that was passed is just a smokescreen?

3) Obama references.

Bush signed it into law, passed by a Republican Congress. Presidents can't retroactively negate laws - if you'd read the Constitution (the one you "KNOW" Obama doesn't care about) you'd know that's not something the Executive branch does.

4) Federal ID card

No, it's Federal guidelines for what documentation states are required to request when issuing the exact same licenses that they issue now.

Just more of the same from right-wing lunatics. Bush does something, Obama gets blamed, and if you point out the hypocrisy then they just get whiny. Try facts next time, and perhaps you'll get a better response.

That being said, the only real topic of debate here should be: Does the federal government have the authority to determine what documents states should issue for licensing. Personally, I come down on the 'no' side of that. But by the same token, it seems like the federal government should have the ability to determine who is and isn't allowed on their property and what sorts of documents are valid for that purpose. That makes it tricky. How do you run a federal courthouse if the state you're in doesn't meet the federal minimums for documentation? It's a complex issue that requires debate. Morons mucking it up with imaginary points doesn't help anything.

In your opinion, would this be accepting "The Mark of the Beast?" Or would having that chip placed in our right hand or forehead be the Mark? I have no problem complying with law, however if it comes to having my body chipped, then no way Jose.

Cool, this means I won't ever have to go through the process of getting a Passport, Right?

Nice, thank you Republic Syndicate and Retarded Prez.

"I'm telling you there's an enemy that would like to attack America, Americans, again. There just is. That's the reality of the world. And I wish him all the very best." --George W. Bush

Radical_Centrist ....first you write......

"Barack Obama's America is quickly becoming Nazi Germany. Did you ever think you would experience invasive, Big Brother tactics in which uniformed officers ask: "Let me see your papers?"
I "KNOW" Barack Obama doesn't care what the U.S. Constitution says. SO WE HAVE TO CARE, AND WE HAVE TO STOP HIM. "

and then you write...........

"Congress passed the Real ID Act on May 11, 2005, creating a mandatory national standard for State-issued drivers' licenses, making the data points identical on all cards."

I could have sworn we had a Republican president and Congress on May11,2005.

that's so dumb - who falls for that stupid crap ????? always trying to scare everybody - i'd be ashamed if i fell for all that FEAR FEAR FEAR shit. peace on earth kids and love too

This sounds like BS concocted to appeal to the Ron Paul crowd.
Besides if you have a cell phone, the government can track every move you make in real time or in the past.
They don't mention it but often use the ability thanks to the warrantless patriot act ( it's for your own "protection").

Not going to happen. Anyone ever see that movie a day without a Mexican? Hahaha good luck.

Um just where did you get your info at? Because it's BULLSHIT!

Not going to happen. Most everything that is said in this video is BULLSHIT! those that believe this crap are getting the wool pulled over their eyes.

Good, this should make life a little easier for those who dont have anything to hide.
If only they'd tie it to my monthly bills and direct deposit pay.

I see no problem with this at all. And I bet the only people who are going to pitch a bitch are the illegals because now they are going to have a tougher time getting fake ids to steal peoples identity with.
Who's complaining about carrying around a drivers license? No one.

Oh please, yawn ......Obama has nothing to do with this ....another right wing scary tactic

the problem is that it would not fly no one is going to vote fore this it would be political suicide. I can't see anyone who would let this happen with out fight ..and well if BO want this and his supporters .. enjoy the fight you won't last..

CC

Nullification. Some states won't comply.

Ummm. The source is Wikipedia... and Youtube...

I call Bull Shit

And as an attack on Obama it was put forth by a repub. house, senate, and pres. in 2005, and it came from wikipedia.

Bogus.

is this fucken serious!!!!! wow this is soooo sureal.....

The practical aplications of this idea are not so tempting when considering the invasiveness that will penetrate our lifestyles. And one curiosity about this... how much money will americans be expected to pay for this?

fucking NWO..... people need to wake up.

Not everyone will have to:

"Arkansas, Arizona, Colorado, Georgia, Hawaii, Idaho, Illinois, Louisiana, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, Nevada, New Hampshire, North Dakota, Oklahoma, South Carolina, Tennessee, Virginia, and Washington have joined Maine and Utah in passing legislation opposing Real ID."

Lucky for my grandma she's never had a driver's license lol,

I actually think the Real ID act solves many problems and in itself does not create any problems, and the creator of this video is just blowing conspiracy theory smoke. It consolidates information already possessed by states into a national database. This stops the problem of drivers with suspended or revoked licenses for major traffic offenses from merely going to the next state and getting a license. With the rise of the Internet, this is not as much of a problem as it was in the past, but the process would be streamlined, save the states money, and actually give less people access to your personal information. Furthermore, for ID cards not to be machine readable would be incompatible with modern, technological times. Also, this would mean less people would see your personal information. Instead of some stranger checking your ID and seeing all your info, when you buy alcohol, say, a machine could just scan it and all the person would see is a green light.

On the same topic, this video would have you believe that this cards have to have an RFID chip in them. This is not the case. The only requirement is that they must be machine readable, which could be as simple as a bar-code or magnetic strip. "Each card must include, at a minimum, the person's full legal name, signature, date of birth, gender, driver's license or identification card number" Nothing about retinal scan, fingerprints or any other items the video claims the ID card must have.

Lastly, a person already needs a drivers license (or state ID) to live already, so nothing new there. A person, at least in my state, has to present the same information for a DL as would be required for a National ID, nothing new here either.

People might take this more seriously if you didn't fill your article with falsehoods. There is no tracking chip in the card, it is only required as a driver's license (voluntary as an ID) and Obama flatly opposed it. Did you read the article you link?

Every few months for the last 8 years or so someone says this same BS...and it never happens. And I got a question...if ur so smart and have all this inside info about the NWO, why aren't you dead?

All hail the NWO!

The Sheepeople better wake up and QUICK! I mean if this were a Football Game we would be at the bottom half of the Fourth Quarter and the Civil Liberties are getting the shit kicked out of them. The game is ALMOST over foilks. You better get in it and fight like hell.

BEFORE Utopiansky or Toyoyabedsrock start lecturing me on how W was the one who started this mess I could give a rats ass who started it. I just want to KNOW who is going to END it! too many on here cheer-lead for one side or the other, when the REALITY is they both phuck us every chance they get.