Photographing farm scenery could land you in jail under Senate bill

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SB 1246 by Sen. Jim Norman, R-Tampa, would make it a first-degree felony to photograph a farm without first obtaining written permission from the owner. A farm is defined as any land "cultivated for the purpose of agricultural production, the raising and breeding of domestic animals or the storage of a commodity."
Media law experts say the ban would violate freedoms protected in the U. S. Constitution. But Wilton Simpson, a farmer who lives in Norman's district, said the bill is needed to protect the property rights of farmers and the "intellectual property" involving farm operations.
Simpson, president of Simpson Farms near Dade City, said the law would prevent people from posing as farmworkers so that they can secretly film agricultural operations.
He said he could not name an instance in which that happened. But animal rights groups such as People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals and Animal Freedom display undercover videos on their web sites to make their case that livestock farming and meat consumption are cruel.
Jeff Kerr, general counsel for PETA, said the state should be ashamed that such a bill would be introduced.
"Mr. Norman should be filing bills to throw the doors of animal producers wide open to show the public where their food comes from rather than criminalizing those who would show animal cruelty," he said.
Simpson agreed the bill would make it illegal to photograph a farm from a roadside without written permission. Norman could not be reached for comment.
Judy Dalglish, executive director for the Reporters Committee for Freedom of the Press, said shooting property from a roadside or from the air is legal. The bill "is just flat-out unconstitutional not to mention stupid," she said.
And she said there are laws already to prosecute trespassing onto property without permission. And if someone poses as a farm employee to shoot undercover video, they can be fired and possibly sued.
"Why pass a law you know will not stand constitutional muster?" Dalglish said.
Simpson said he doesn't think that "innocent" roadside photography would be prosecuted even if the bill is passed as introduced.
"Farmers are a common-sense people," he said. "A tourist who stops and takes a picture of cows -- I would not imagine any farmer in the state of Florida that cares about that at all."
Originally published in the Florida Current - exclusively distributed via Lobbytools - Florida's Premiere Legislative and Media Monitoring Service.
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aaron1972
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Now, here's a headline you don't see every day.
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aaron1972
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Wetdog
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aaron1972:
It is the criminals saying "We have no intention whatever of obeying the laws, so we want you to make surveillance cameras and photographic evidence illegal."
If you are going to continue illegal activities, make the evidence of your actions inadmissible in court. It is the same thing as destroying the evidence.
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Wetdog
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hombre76
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They are not just covering up animal crulity with this kind of bill but also the ability of citizens to show immigrant slavery and abuse as well.
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hombre76
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bundlebear
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hombre76:
i didn't even think about that
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bundlebear
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Avior
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hombre76:
I didn't think about that either, thanks for pointing it out.
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Avior
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ineedaname777777
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consider eating less meat and more produce like apples, banana's, salad, carrots, peanuts, all natural foods with no unnatural flavor, no msg, no corn syrup, no aspartain, no flouride, and even no yeast, no meat, juice thats NOT from concentrate, And fats like Milk, cheese, pasta's that are not made from egg , rice pasta, Drink spring water, and stop drinking soda, and cool aid, sweet tea, drink juice, and thats just a start...Your body will pay you with feeling good, and energy.
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ineedaname777777
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ecoalex
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What are they hiding? Animal cruelty? Pollution? Abject soil erosion? These guys are wanting to hide something. Just like Wikileaks has a moral obligation to expose government,corporate malfeasance,reporting what is going on farms when they sell to the public is a 1st Amendment right.
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ecoalex
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samthesixth
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Thanks for posting this. I would not have seen it elsewhere.
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samthesixth
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LivingPong
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To protect "intellectual property". No mention of protecting the farmers, just the interests of large corporations. Absolutely absurd. Having grown up on a farm myself, I'd only welcome people taking photos.
How would rural people get their voice heard if no one was allowed to take photos in their neighbourhood? Maybe some are interested in laying the groundwork for a takeover of country areas. Maybe I'm just suspicious, but I find censorship of food production and agricultural areas quite alarming.
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LivingPong
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bambuu
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This is crazy I'm at a lost for words but it's another crazy idea from another crazy Republican.
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bambuu
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Wetdog
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bambuu:
It is not crazy----it is meant to hide illegal activity under a cloak if legality.
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Wetdog
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Slfriend79
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This has to be one of the most ludicrous ideas our lawmakers have ever come up with! I actually thought it was a joke when I first started reading it but it's not in the 'Comedy' section of the site.
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Slfriend79
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Wetdog
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Slfriend79:
If the profits are high enough and you are willing to spend the money to get the lawmakers to pass it, nothing is too ludicrous.
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Wetdog
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Avior
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This is an attempt to hide information from the public about what really goes on in the farm "industry". The way they treat the livestock, and what is actually being put into our food. This bill is bullshit, and this Senator is wasting air.
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Avior
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mii
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Avior:
I am in total agreement with you.
Shamless attempt to hide information. - 1 year ago
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mii
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Paratus
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If it's open to plain view and the photography is done without trespass I don't see the problem. I doubt that animal cruelty has anything to do with this bill. Don't legislators have any real problems to deal with??
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Paratus
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Paratus:
I agree, legislators should have more to worry about. Who is pushing this?
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Conniepae
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Wetdog
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Paratus:
Keeping their constituents out of jail must be considered a "real" problem by some legislators.
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Wetdog
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GrannyLib
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I would be willing to bet the farm that this has more to do with photographing the effects of Monsanto and Dow chemicals than animal rights.
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GrannyLib:
hah. Wouldn't doubt it. Once I realized it was because of animal cruelty, I was like "really!?" (Not to downplay the cruelty). But come on - this is just stupid. I'm sure those corporations are pushing lots of money to make this happen!
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slippyt
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slippyt:
Money talks in America. Follow the money!
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MotherForTruth
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Another great post, bundlebear!
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bundlebear
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MotherForTruth:
thank you
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bundlebear
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JanforGore
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Tell that to GOOGLE.
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Chopstick
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Can't do this. Photographing laws state that anything can shot as long it is within public view and your are standing on public property. This includes playgrounds, banks, and even into houses. If you don't want it to be photographed, don't put it in public view.
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Chopstick
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Wetdog
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Well, if it passes----what say we all mosey on down to corporate headquarters then sue the bastards for taking surveillance photos of us without our written permission.
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Wetdog
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Niki_Staehle
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Unconstitutional..ppl also need to have the right to know what is REALLY going on in slaughterhouses. They wouldn't make this law unless they were afraid of ppl finding out.
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Niki_Staehle
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slippyt
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Niki_Staehle:
for real. Have you seen "Food, Inc."!? Some pretty shitty shit goes on behind those walls.
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slippyt:
Yep. I became vegan after reading a book by a biologist that explained how dangerous the system is not only to animals, but to our immune systems...
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dudefromtherock
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Free the weed
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John_Hutchison
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ok folks we need REALY NEED somebody or a united nations gruop to put these bill passers or paper pushers in a mental health facility then start a gruop to start getting rid of laws and stupid acts, bills, CAN YOU IMAGINE THE BOND FIRES FROM THIS oh yes everything is terrorist, i guess like the macarthy period , i thuoght americans where for freedom and the constitution or is this just a fantasy ??????//
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COMMONSENSEFORCOMMONGOOD_COM
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Why pass it if they know it won't stand constitutional challenge she asks? Possibly because it may go unnoticed and unchallenged for a long time before it's ever checked.
I live in Florida, I'll copy and paste send it to my congressmen with an outraged note. That's a beginning. We'll put it on our laundry list just in case.
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FLeggplant
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Let me guess...
Norman is afraid that someone will snap a photo of him performing carnal acts with his best 4-legged girlfriend. Sex with animals is perfectly legal in Florida.
Just don't take a photo of it or you are the criminal.
Twisted! - 1 year ago
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FLeggplant
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toyotabedzrock
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Yay for small government!
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dooder
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welcome to communism .. get used to it and learn mandarin
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Stoneyroad
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it's not that farmer Brown doesn't want you taking pics like this.
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Stoneyroad:
it's factory farms & genetic tinkerers that don't want you to see pics like this.
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Stoneyroad
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Stoneyroad:
WTF are they doing to that cow. It looks like they never bothered to milk it. My uncle always warned me that the cows have to be milked but I never believed it could go that far.
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FLeggplant
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Stoneyroad:
OMG!
Horrible!
What is wrong with people? - 1 year ago
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FLeggplant
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Vierotchka
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toyotabedzrock:
That cow suffers from acute mastitis due to her having been pumped with Monsanto's Bovine Growth Hormone to get her to produce much more milk than she would naturally produce:
"The recombinant Bovine Growth Hormone (rBGH), a genetically engineered hormone manufactured by Monsanto, has sparked a controversy nationwide since its introduction to the marketplace a couple of years ago. Sometimes referred to as Bovine Somatotropin (rBST), the bioengineered hormone is injected in the cows every other week to force the cows to produce more milk than their bodies normally would. rBGH is similar, although not identical, to a hormone that the cow naturally produces. Increasing levels of this hormone boosts milk production, causing a number of problems with the milk, among them, raising levels of pus, antibiotics residues and a cancer-accelerating hormone called IGF-1."
Read more at http://www.ejnet.org/bgh/nogood.html
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Vierotchka
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toyotabedzrock:
The cow has mastitis. Probably from being pumped with RBGH.
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FLeggplant:
I am not an expert on such matters, bu it appears to me that this horrific photo might be of a cow given hormones to increase its production of milk. From what I have read such a bloated udder is a common, or even desired result of such hormone treatments.
It is cruel, and it also causes infection, leading to a lot of puss and discharge being mixed into your dairy product (along with the hormones). It is illegal (yes illegal) to advertise that your dairy products do not contain such hormones if you name them specifcally (like rbst or rbgh, but I could be wrong.. look it up). However, I believe you are allowed to make general comments such as "no artificial growth hormones".
My understanding is that dairy farms are getting taken over by monopolies who require the use of these hormones in order to minimize the price they pay for dairy products. Those who don't comply with such practices are squeezed out of the market.
It is SICK!!!!
Check out the book "Monopoly Capitalism and The Economics of Destruction" by Barry C. Lynn. I don't agree with everything Mr. Lynn says (for example his take on Ralph Nader), but it is a worthy read (and a good effort) nevertheless.
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EmileZ [removed]
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ArchDruid [removed]
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Stoneyroad: This comment was removed by its owner.
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ArchDruid [removed]
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EmileZ [removed]
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ArchDruid:
That is really creepy, but I would rather be a Japanese cow than one destined American meat market.
Thanks for sharing!!!
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EmileZ [removed]
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EmileZ:
Did I just say that???
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Stoneyroad:
THANK YOU
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Conniepae
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I'm glad I have enjoyed taking pictures of farms, before it becomes illegal.
One day my husband and I were driving along a country road and we came across a farm where the cows seemed to be heading in. I told him to stop, I wanted to take a picture. He told me, 'what, do you think they are going to strike a pose'. What do you know, I aimed my camera and one of the cows stopped and 'struck a pose'. It was amazing and fortunately legal.
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Conniepae
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Earthwalker
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How about photographs of inhumane acts, or activities that corner the market. Remember the strawberries. They didn't want a bumper crop because too much means less demand.
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Earthwalker
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Camera's illegal(NEXT) NO free press, the eyes of america would be closed shut ...what a shame .. HOMELAND SECURITY they cannot keep us safe!!! Proof nine elevin, proof columbine,proof...etc...etc..Who is gonna protect us from them!!!
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Earthwalker
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Camille_Jackson
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I want to know what made him want to put all his time and energy into this bill, when it's so obviously stupid and unconstitutional!!!
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Camille_Jackson
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bailey78
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Camille_Jackson:
MONEY HONEY !!
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bailey78
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Milieu
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Break it up. Move on, now. Nothing here to see.
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Milieu
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Milieu:
Yep, it's the American way. Break it up, was a nice touch. I like it.
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Conniepae
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bailey78
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So I guess some of the folks in public office have stock in the factory farming busisness. They are wanting to hide something or this would not bother them. the time to worry is when they no longer want to be photographed. Because we all know those that want to hide something are the ones that don't want evidence of their wrong doing.
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bailey78
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bundlebear
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bailey78:
could be their doing Monsanto's bidding
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bundlebear
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bailey78
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bundlebear:
Could very well be.
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bailey78
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bailey78:
Yes, they don't want you taking pictures of their corn subsidies.
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JanforGore
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Schnookums
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I wonder when merely looking at things will start landing you in jail.
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Schnookums
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Schnookums:
don't say that aloud you'll give them ideas
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bundlebear
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Schnookums:
Sooner than you think.
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bailey78
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Schnookums:
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the pathway to living on earth being a crappy experience is in congress?
weird... - 1 year ago
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totally_dilapidated