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Top Men Responsible for the Defense of Marriage Act Cheated on Their Wives

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You’d have to go back to the Jim Crow era to find a law as imbued with bigotry and hatred as DOMA, the so-called Defense of Marriage Act, which Pres. Clinton signed into law in 1996. It’s back in the news now because Attorney General Eric Holder announced last week that the administration would no longer defend it in court.

It’s adulterers — not gays — who are the real threat to traditional marriage
DOJ has made it clear, however, that the Legislative Branch is free to defend DOMA in upcoming hearings, which would put Speaker Boehner and his tea party bosses in the same position as the defenders of Proposition 8, California’s anti-gay constitutional amendment. The Prop 8 defenders lost in federal court last year because their “expert” witnesses’ biblical-based testimony that gay marriage should be illegal because homosexuality is a sin was deemed inadmissible in court and because they were unable to provide any evidence that same-sex marriage harms society.

Newt Gingrich, who, as speaker of the House, was instrumental in pushing the law through in 1996, has criticized the president for abandoning the defense of DOMA, and has even suggested that the president could be impeached because he “swore an oath on the Bible to ensure that laws be faithfully executed, not to decide which laws are and which are not constitutional” — a typical falsehood-within-a-falsehood that only liars as practiced as Gingrich can get away with. In reality, the administration said it will continue to enforce the law, and the courts will ultimately decide whether DOMA is constitutional, with or without a defense by the Executive or, for that matter, the Legislative branch.

Gingrich feels free to wade in on DOMA because he’s never had to address the fact that while DOMA was sailing through the House under his direction, he was quite openly engaged in an extramarital affair with a congressional staffer. His affair with Callista Bisek, which apparently started in 1995, had been reported in British newspapers, Time magazine and Salon.com well before DOMA was debated in the House. The affair continued for years, and was still going on while Speaker Gingrich led the impeachment of Pres. Clinton over the president’s own affair with a staffer. In fact, Republicans in Congress became so unnerved by the prospect of the speaker’s affair coming to light while they drummed up outrage over Clinton’s dalliances became so unnerving to them that in 1998, a group of GOP House members — including at least briefly current Speaker John Boehner — demanded that Gingrich resign. And even then Gingrich did not acknowledge the affair until the following year, when it became public record during his second divorce.

Gingrich is a serial adulterer, having had multiple extramarital affairs when he was a college teacher. He is also infamous for an incident during his first divorce — he left wife number one after a lengthy affair with soon-to-be wife number two — when he forced his first wife to discuss details of their separation while she was in a hospital bed recuperating from cancer surgery.


DOMA was written at Gingrich’s behest in May 1996 by Rep. Bob Barr, R-Ga., who has been married three times, and who used to a legal maneuver in his 1985 divorce proceedings to avoid having to admit under oath that he’d had an affair. The bill went through the House Judiciary Committee, which was chaired by Henry Hyde who would later admit to having had an extramarital affair that broke up his girlfriend’s marriage. He made matters worse by trying to pass it off as a youthful indiscretion when in fact he was in his forties at the time.

In the Senate, Majority Leader Bob Dole resigned in June 1996, two months before DOMA came up for debate. It’s unclear whether Dole had a role in the early strategizing over DOMA. The act’s true purpose had nothing to do with protecting marriage, of course. Its intent was to create a wedge between Pres. Clinton and his gay and liberal supporters in an effort to peel away support in order to benefit Dole, the Republican presidential nominee that year. If Dole had a hand in DOMA, then there was another cheater on the team. Dole had admitted to leaving his first wife for a flight attendant many years earlier.

But even as a wedge issue, DOMA was a failure — mainly because gays and liberals understood what Republicans were up to and didn’t fall for it. The act passed in September, 342-67 in the House and 85-14 in the Senate. Clinton signed DOMA into law on Sept. 21, 1996. Six weeks or so later, he won decisively against Dole.

Of course, no one knew it at the time, but like Speaker Gingrich, Pres. Clinton was also engaged in an extramarital affair, with Monica Lewinsky, during the time he signed the Defense of Marriage Act.

In addition to the political hypocrisy, DOMA is also a case study in the moral hypocrisy of anti-gay Christian extremists. Based on their propaganda, one might assume that the the sin of homosexuality is a central theme in the Bible. But if you actually read the Bible, you’ll find that adultery is mentioned prominently and often and that homosexuality is barely mentioned at all.

Adultery is prohibited twice in the Ten Commandments — once outright, “thou shalt not commit adultery” and again in the warning against coveting one’s neighbor’s ass. Homosexuality is not mentioned at all in the Decalogue. It is relegated to a long list of abominations that includes eating ham, shrimp and lobster; reading a horoscope or visiting a psychic; burning incense; cheating at business; and women wearing slacks and men wearing kilts, to name a few.

Leaving aside religion, it’s adulterers like Gingrich, Bob Barr and Bob Dole — men who leave their wives for others — who are the real threat to traditional marriage. It’s adulterers, not gays, who create single-parent homes, which are contributing factors to poverty, juvenile crime and other social ills.

DOMA is a hateful and divisive law. It will be ruled as unconstitutional by the Supreme Court someday, and future generations will be as puzzled by it as kids today are at the idea that there were “Colored” and “Whites Only” water fountains 50 years ago.

What is telling is that in all the dozens of interviews that Clinton and Gingrich have done since they left office, no journalist has ever asked them to square their push to “defend marriage” by passing DOMA at the same time they cheating on their wives.

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92 comments // Top Men Responsible for the Defense of Marriage Act Cheated on Their Wives

  • samonster34
    • +1
      samonster34  

    • "a long list of abominations that includes eating ham, shrimp and lobster; reading a horoscope or visiting a psychic..."

      it is not a strong reason to NOT oppose homosexuality because these other 'abominations' are so ridiculous. There is reason, which requires an understanding of what these biblical laws were meant for, what the word 'abomination' even meant when it was written, the interpretation of the few references to homosexuality in the bible, and what this all means to Christians.

      Those things can seem to vary, and do as most of us know. However, none of my knowledge of the Bible condemns me for being homosexual, and I am still appalled every day when confronted with homophobic sentiments.

    • 12 months ago
  • Randy_Harris
    • +2
      Randy_Harris  

    • It's interesting that this article, while I agree that DOMA was a bad piece of legislation and needs to be repealed, goes into detail about Newt Gingrich's marital indiscretions, but gives only a slight mention of Bill Clinton's marital indiscretion with Monica L. It was very well known that Bill Clinton had marital indiscretions BEFORE becoming president.

    • 12 months ago
  • Arizona_Huey
    • +7
      Arizona_Huey  

    • I am thinking of starting a new political party in this country: The Pragmatic Party!! No corporate sponsorship, no partisanship, no hidden agenda, no finger pointing, NO religion, no hypocrisy, and no vitriol and/or hate speech - EVER. The mail goal is the election of and legislation of ideas that make sense and further the good of our planet, our country, and our citizens.

      Some of the key mission statement categories off the top of my head:

      * Vigorous pursuit of the research, development, and implementation of all green technology!

      * Remove tax exemption status from all churches! They are a business that funds political activities and they needed to be treated like a business.

      * Speaking of business - remove all subsidies to companies that make over, say 10 million in profit.

      * Remove all tax exemptions/loopholes that enable big corporations to avoid paying a cent in Fed taxes.

      * Re-enact the original FCC restrictions on media ownership - we need to return to a place where news was actually news and not party propaganda.

      * Remove religion from political discourse and arenas.

      * Strike down all laws that restrict the rights of its citizens based on sexual orientation - PERIOD!

      * Heavily regulate campaign funding and advertising to stop impacting election results just because somebody funded millions in smear/slander campaign.

      * Eliminate health care coverage for profit

      * For each election, create an unbiased and detailed description of the issues and the candidates so people can understand exactly what each stands for and/or represents.

      Again, those are just a few thoughts!!!

    • 12 months ago
  • Bethany_Brooke
  • Ezra_Cohen
  • wolfess
  • Arizona_Huey
  • alterfox
  • Iain_St_James
    • +5
      Iain_St_James  

    • One must acknowledge Bill Clinton though. Of these philanderers, he asked for forgiveness (he got it, he is still married), changed his ways(to the best of our knowledge), and has reversed himself personally and publicly on his views of S/S marriage. I am impressed with his ability to learn, mature and be open to change...I hope he can pass that on to the rest of the democratic party who preach change but don't actually live it.

    • 12 months ago
  • samonster34
  • noxidereus
    • +4
      noxidereus  

    • Americans should not put up with religious pandering. It is transparently insincere and we're a secular nation for good reason. The American people need to raise their standards of what we expect from our politicians. It is common knowledge that politicians lie. Why is that acceptable? It should be such that lying politicians get bounced out of public office with extreme shame. Democracy cannot work, if the politicians who represent the people are liars and the people are ignorant and misinformed/underinformed.

      "If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be." - Thomas Jefferson

    • 12 months ago
  • kvb1
    • +7
      kvb1  

    • There is nothing worse then a politician that sys one thing, but does another. It is the RIPublicans thatare the problem. Dems that cheat are also not standing on a pedistal and casting stones at others. RIPublicans on the other hand take an active part in formalizing ethical standards they they have no intention of meeting.
      R-Mark Sanford, Gov of S Carolina had affair with mistress Maria from Argentina, used State funds to wine-and-dine her.
      R-Senator John Ensign-NV had an affair with his campaign manager's wife and then bribed her husband ...
      R-Senator David Vitter-LA mixed-it-up with DC prostitutes ... with the diaper fetish ...
      R-Randall Tobias 'resigned' for soliciting prostitutes.
      R-Sen Larry Craig-Idaho mixed-it-up with MEN, with at least ten homosexual-related charges filed, all while promoting anti-gay legislation.
      R-US House Robert 'Bob' Livingston admitted having an affair and stepped-down. Ole Bob tried to have Clinton impeached for Monica.
      R-Gov Bill Owens-CO is rumored to have had multiple affairs and split with wife.
      R-Sen Paul Stanley-TN stepped-down after an affair with intern McKensie Morrison, while also being known as being gay or bi-sexual.
      R-FL State Rep Robert Allen was arrested for soliciting prostitution from a MAN, while promoting himself as a "strong man on family values".
      R-GOP Pres contender Mike Huckabee states, "Many of us became a part of the Republican Party so that we could find a home for traditional beliefs regarding marriage and family and the sanctity of human life. If those things really don't exist in the party, then we have to ask, 'Why are we here?'"
      Mike Cromatie-R and former Chairman of the Commission on International Religious Freedom states, "It's the hypocrisy that people can't stand. It's not the fact that people are frail and given to sinful behavior. It's when they try to pretend to be morally upright and end up being self-righteous because they preach one thing and live another."

      Not to mention John McCain who divorced his wife while she was in the hospital fighting cancer.
      Larry Craig who was caught soliciting gay sex in the mens room of an airport.
      Mark Foley who resigned for allegedly having sexting underage male House pages.

      The list goes on and on.

    • 12 months ago
  • Colin_McCabe
    • -6
      Colin_McCabe  

    • Now we learn that Ted Kennedy rented an entire Chilean brothel in the 60's. No politician or public official has stayed faithful to their wives. Have you seen their aides and secretary's? They're some of the hottest pieces of ass to barely get a degree.

    • 12 months ago
  • bike10
    • +3
      bike10  

    • So called Christian Republicans love to wrap themselves in the Bible. They claim to be moral and family value Christians.

    • 12 months ago
  • samthesixth
  • United_Federation_of_legalize_weed
  • nanac
    • +3
      nanac  

    • Not only is Newt Gingrich a hypocrite, he is a con-man..He will sell you a worthless membership in a fraudulent club of his, for a 5000.00 fee.You will receive a fake gavel, and a cerficate for your money..He should be locked up..

    • 12 months ago
  • twinite
    • +3
      twinite  

    • Just speaking for the view from my peepers, the gay couples I know, married or otherwise are just as committed to their relationships as the heterosexual couples...it's the cheaters who threaten the sanctity of marriage, not the people fighting to be joined.

    • 12 months ago
  • mikeO
  • JonRaymond
    • +9
      JonRaymond  

    • The government has no business in people's bedrooms. It is simply not their business who is married or not, nor how they live their personal lives.

    • 12 months ago
  • Persecuted
    • +7
      Persecuted  

    • i personally dont think that sex or religion makes a politician good or bad... bill clinton was a beasty sexual man and one of the best presidents in history, same goes for JFK... abe lincoln couldnt get it up, and was rumored to be gay, also one of the best presidents in history... richard nixon was once quoted as saying "i'd rather eat pussy with white gravy than fried chicken any day" and he was a terrible president... Ronald reagan... also a terrible president was quoted saying to nancy, "i hope you cleaned that pussy up real nice for daddy because tonight you're gonna get the lickin and stabbin of a lifetime"

      newt gingrich is a terrible human being... hes a hypocrite for standing against the rights of others... and he would be a terrible oppressive president who would further the agenda of fucking the american people into the ground based on his ideas of what is right and what is wrong... never placing any blame on himself.

    • 12 months ago
  • randallr01
    • +8
      randallr01  

    • This reminds me of when I was protesting against Prop 8 back in 2008... I asked a vehement (and religious) pro-Prop8 picketer if she had ever cheated on her husband, all the while citing the Bible's objection to adultery. When she refused to answer, I started cackling at her, "You cheated on your husband! And now you want to ban Gay Marriage for moral reasons!! Hahahahahaha!"

      I also pointed at her husband, who was standing there, dumbfounded. Let's just say I won the day.

    • 12 months ago
  • artemis6
  • Nephwrack
  • desmosabie
    • -13
      desmosabie  

    • I saw the headline and wanted to stab my eyes out, one has nothing to do with the other. Sure glad I didn't read anything above or below this and obviously I wont come back to this one.

    • 12 months ago
  • Nephwrack
  • Camille_Jackson
  • coolplanet
    • +5
      coolplanet  

    • Why does this bring to mind the Monty Python song & dance from The Meaning of Life:
      "Every sperm is sacred, every sperm is great,
      if a sperm is wasted God gets quite irate."???

    • 12 months ago
  • samthesixth
  • timetide
  • reddjoiowa
  • EmperorThan
  • ThresholdBroken
  • ThresholdBroken
  • ReMarker
  • toyotabedzrock
    • +6
      toyotabedzrock  

    • HE ADMITTED OBAMA WAS SWORN IN ON THE BIBLE!!!

      “swore an oath on the Bible to ensure that laws be faithfully executed, not to decide which laws are and which are not constitutional”

    • 12 months ago
  • mapczar
    • +8
      mapczar  
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    • toyotabedzrock:

      The Constitution is very clear that NO religious oath be administered to public officials. Article VI, para 3. "... but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States."

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_Religious_Test_Clause

      The Supreme Court has interpreted this provision broadly, saying that any required oath to serve anything other than the Constitution is invalid.

      The adding of "so help me God" in the Oath of Office we see for the President is also unconstitutional [Article II, Sec 1, para 8.] There is a Federal Statue [5 USC Sec 3331] that has this phrase in the Oath of Office for the Vice President but it has never been challenged and is clearly unconstitutional. It is all theater for the christian crowd.

      I have personal knowledge of the Silverman vs Campbell case in South Carolina. Herb Silverman was a professor [Math Dept] at the College of Charleston where I was on faculty and Campbell was the Governor at the time. They refused him to be a Notary Public because he would not swear "so help me God" as required for the office at the time. Herb Silverman is an Atheist and does not believe in a god. South Carolina did not catch on fire.

      Bottom line -- there is no threat of impeachment for any public official because they swore on a bible.

    • 12 months ago
  • V1ct0rCR0cc0
  • randallr01
  • Paratus
    • -16
      Paratus  

    • Whatever. People are not perfect and if we elect only the perfect ones we will have an empty congress and White House. Hey, that may not be a bad idea.
      Has it ever occurred to anyone that perhaps by being imperfect and cheating on their spouse they realized how wrong it was and what they should support? Sort of like a drug addict or alcoholic who works to help others with their addiction. Anyhow.
      DOMA was constitutionally put in place by the legislature and signed by Clinton. It is the law and Obama instructing Holder to ignore it violates his oath of office and is, most certainly, not his job. There has been a lot of noise on this board since the Wisconsin rallies began about how it is an exercise in democracy and therefore good. DOMA was an exercise in democracy. Everywhere gay marriage has been put on the ballot, to my knowledge, it has been voted down. That was also an exercise in democracy. When Clinton has the oral interview with Monica his supporters said that the repercussions were between Bill and Hillary. Should we apply this standard to DOMA or establish a new one?

    • 12 months ago
  • JustZ
    • +15
      JustZ  
    • Paratus:

      So...has anyone said people must be perfect? What I believe is being said is it is the height of hypocrisy to denounce behavior that you yourself are guilty of.

      History has proven time and time again that just about anytime someone is telling you how you need to live... should probably just sit the fuck down and shut up.

      Those who live in glass houses shouldn't throw rocks.

    • 12 months ago
  • bambuu
  • Persecuted
  • Persecuted
    • +6
      Persecuted  
    • Paratus:

      so i guess those guys railroading against homosexuality that are caught with male prostitutes and in bathroom stalls with other men have learned their lesson...they were just trying on the homosexuality and the jacket didnt fit? now they're sorry? we should let those guys back in office too... im sure they learned their lesson

    • 12 months ago
  • Paratus
    • -1
      Paratus  
    • JustZ:

      You are so correct. I agree. I especially liked the second paragraph. Now to give you guys here something to mark me down for, and I mean this without rancor and all sincerity, this is why I, and many others, find liberalism so offensive. It's the control. A lot is said here about Republicans or conservatives (notice there is a difference) controlling everyone but there seems to be a disconnect when it comes to liberals doing the controlling. This glass house thing works both ways for more things than marital infidelity. We have to make allowances for the democratic process in matters reserved to the states so I am referring to central government actions, Obamacare for instance. Perfection is not the goal but the goal should be applying the same standards to BOTH parties. Oh, the author of the leading post forgot to include the Kennedys. I was not a fan of Ted but that had nothing to do with his womanizing. That was between he and his wife. Only my father and my drill sergeant had the right to tell me how to live. I don't see any of these two gentlemen on either side of the aisle on Capital Hill. Congress needs to limit it's activities to Article I, Section 8. Local mores are up to the people and the states.

    • 12 months ago
  • Paratus
    • +1
      Paratus  
    • bambuu:

      No it means to learn from your mistakes and move on to correct them. I am not advocating that they rail against something in public and practice it in private and nowhere in my post is this suggested.

    • 12 months ago
  • Paratus
  • Paratus
  • Persecuted
  • Stoneyroad
    • +7
      Stoneyroad  

    • I guess they consider cheating on your wife as part of a 'traditional' marriage.
      Just wait until married gay folk start cheating on their spouses, the right wing will assert that traditional adultery is between a man & women & mistress.

      Huckabee was on Fox the other day claiming Obama will lose the black vote because he told the justice department DOMA was unconstitutional. And the only reason he was elected was because he said he supported traditional marriage.

    • 12 months ago
  • ja2003wow
    • +3
      ja2003wow  
    • Stoneyroad:

      And, he is one of those ministers, whatever, who is most political, writes his books, wants again to be president, but built his life without having to pay taxes on property etc. etc.
      Preach from the pulpit, pay taxes.

    • 12 months ago
  • littlwarrior
    • +18
      littlwarrior  

    • And Newt wants to run for president with that much baggage. Ya know it still amazes me any republican gets elected at all with all their bullshit.

    • 12 months ago
  • Paratus
  • fightmonsanto
  • littlwarrior
  • Demtothecore
    • +6
      Demtothecore  
    • Paratus:

      And you folks elect folks who buy hookers, sleep with aids wives, toe tap for ass in restrooms, troll the halls of where the young page boys sleep looking for woo, cheat on wives who are dying of cancer in hospitals AND WORSHIP AT CHURCHES WHERE THE PASTOR SNIFS DRUGS WHILE GETTING HIS COLON PACKED!!. PLUS don't forget that special form of pig who went to DR with a bag of viagra and stocks of young boys in his hotel room for days. SO THERE IS A DIFFERENCE!

    • 12 months ago
  • mapczar
  • samthesixth
  • Persecuted
    • +2
      Persecuted  
    • Paratus:

      you honestly cant see what the republicans have done to the american people in just 2 full months? you are really so caught up in your party that you cant even look at it from outside of it?
      i'm a liberal and even i know that a lot of liberals fuck up... and if liberals were deliberately fucking the american people and stripping them of rights and help and voice, i'd have a big fucking problem with that...
      it takes a very special kind of person to be a conservative... a very stupid special kind of person to stand behind the principles of hurting others.

    • 12 months ago
  • samthesixth
  • extracrazykiwi2008
  • BigAL72
    • +13
      BigAL72  

    • With Democrats you can expect it and you accept it. They have nobody to apologize to but their families. With Republicans it's hypocrisy all around. They not only have to apologize to their families but they have to apologize to their constituents and to their country.

    • 12 months ago
  • gransview
  • Paratus
  • FlexSF
  • KSirys
    • +13
      KSirys  

    • Figures the people that cheat and break the sacred bond of marriage, are the first ones to talk and act like the righteous servants of God. lol...

    • 12 months ago
  • kennymotown
  • Nephwrack
  • COMMONSENSEFORCOMMONGOOD_COM
  • arigg
  • ReMarker
  • arigg
  • tommic
    • +5
      tommic  

    • Projection Guilt, used all the time, mostly by conservatives but liberals too use it. When your guilty, throw guilt on someone else in an effort to remove it from yourself. Its a psycological order or disorder however you'd like to term it. But it reeks of dishonesty..

    • 12 months ago
  • ejasun
  • figgdimension
  • samthesixth
  • jeffissleeping
    • +16
      jeffissleeping  

    • Flabbergasting how such a morally bankrupt politician still has the fucking stones to run around preaching to others how to live their lives...

      What happened to keeping the 'big, bad government' out of the business of mandating the private decisions of their citizens, Newt?

    • 12 months ago
  • cantucwearebrothers
    • +1
      cantucwearebrothers  

    • I don't know that I agree that adulterers are the 'real' threat to marriage. I think it's just people in general. Marriage is a religious institution that has been forced down the throat of society. We've been made to believe that unless and until we marry we aren't successful human beings and our relationships have no value. Then, after marrying it's as if we're expected to no longer be the fallible people that we inherently are.

    • 12 months ago
  • The_Wanderer_KS
    • +5
      The_Wanderer_KS  

    • Adultery and and other equally apalling behavior persued by those who are married account for nearly all failed marriages, and bad attitudes by those who have been hurt in a relationship... it's almost never a decision before the marriage that cause the problems. Homosexuals who join in union knew that they were homosexual and therefore able to deal with the problems that arise from that, a pair of coke addicts who wed are also aware of the problems ahead of them and can find ways to cope with thier difficulties... It's those who marry without thier soul laid bare before the ceremony that take marriage down these dark and depressing corridors, definately not those who know who they are and what they want BEFORE putting a ring on someone's finger.

      Tim_Patrick, you are absolutely 100% correct in your thoughts, I may be an athiest but I have nothing but love and respect for the religious people out there that actually follow the tenets and beliefs of thier religion... unlike those listed in the above article who preach "God's Teachings" while leaving stains on little blue dresses.

    • 12 months ago
  • Incredulous
  • Schnookums
  • kennymotown
  • Leen61
  • CarlosIsDown
  • Tim_Patrick
    • +21
      Tim_Patrick  

    • In short, Adultery is the number one enemy of marriage. Homosexuals are not endangering society, nor is there any evidence that Homosexuals threaten the bonds of traditional marriage in the slightest.

      As a Christian, I actually feel that I shouldn't be against the idea of Civil Unions in the courts. It is up to the Church, on an individual church basis, to determine whether or not they will marry homosexuals before God. That would be a congregation's concern. The Court of Law is not a religious institution, and I will be damned if I use my to faith curtail the rights of my fellow man.

      It is my belief that Christians were never meant to get involved in politics. The Pope is a disgrace to the religion, and pastors like John Hagee are nothing but wolves in sheep's clothing. As a Christian, I believe that my citizenship is in the Kingdom of Heaven first; and that means that while I am here on Earth, I strive to protect the freedoms of man, while sharing the Gospel with those willing to hear it. That is the mission of the Christian.

    • 12 months ago
  • ja2003wow
    • +8
      ja2003wow  
    • Tim_Patrick:

      And, any church that preaches politics from the pulpit should pay taxes. I am a Christian & I firmly believe that too many churches are now preaching things that are not their right unless they take full part in the process. There is absolutely no reason that non profits can not exist, while taxing all churches. We hear the political trash on Sunday on a regular basis, especially at election time. In addition, we have those who preach 24/7 on television.

    • 12 months ago
  • jennilamb007
    • +3
      jennilamb007  
    • Tim_Patrick:

      Well said. I have all but stopped going to a church that I have gone to most of my life because in the last few years it has become the sounding stage for the right wing. I won't tolerate it. There is something completely wrong with my spiritual leader touting the wonderfulness of the GOP when there couldn't be anything less Christian than a Conservative. It is bizarre to hear one minute that we need to uplift our neighbor, treat them as we would want to be treated, love unconditionally, feed the poor, nurture the sick, help the elderly, etc, etc, etc and then in the next breath say "don't vote for a Democrat they want to set up death panels and ruin the country". huh? I told the Deacon that as long as he was going to be blind to what O'Reilly, Hannity, Beck, etc all stand for then I wouldn't be back and neither would my support. When did being a Christian mean that you also had to pick a party affiliation to belong to the church? Not one time when reading the Bible did I ever come across Jesus asking anyone if they had an HMO before healing them or charging the multitude before feeding them the biggest all-you-can-eat buffet in history. He told those who would follow him that they would have to give up EVERYTHING before they could go along with him. He sat down to eat with tax collectors, prostitutes, cursing sailors, and lepers. He turned over the money changing tables at the temple and said "My house will be called a house of prayer for all nations. But you have made it a den of theives.", all while beating them with a whip made of cords. This does not sound like a man who would be called to sit and break bread with the Koch brothers or any of the dim bulbs on Fox. I almost pity them. Almost. I wish Jesus would come back with that whip of cords and descend upon the Capital building in Wisconsin and give Scott Walker a spanking of mega proportions.

    • 12 months ago
  • bambuu
    • +11
      bambuu  

    • It's amazing how Newt can forget his own short comings of being an adulterer and resigning as Speaker of the House and thinks that he can be POTUS.

    • 12 months ago
  • samthesixth
  • savroD
  • LivingPong
    • +15
      LivingPong  

    • The Defence of Marriage Act is wrong, if the guys responsible for the act broke it then it's pretty hypocritical not to allow gay marriage. Marriage should be available to everyone.

      Cheating on your wife is wrong! This is a great article. I guess they came up with this law to deflect attention from their own activities and try and deal with their feelings of guilt.

    • 12 months ago
  • Nancy_J_Powell
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