The Military Wants to Execute Pvt. Manning

He didn't commit treason, which is why he can't get the death penalty even the Pentagon wants it.

He leaked documents, the entirety of which had nothing to do with tactical movements and everything to do with things embarrassing to the DOD.

They can't even prove that anything he said even hurt anybody, which you think wouldn't be that hard since they could just bullshit it.

Pay attention please.

Excuse me.... 2nd paragraph.

You. Are. Useless.

Your bile and rancor IS appreciated ! ( this is not sarcasm,....I DO appreciate it,...and +^d ! )

I would like to see if they can ACTUALLY try him in court with indisputable proof that the documents he leaked lead to someone's death. That would be interesting if they could do it. I'm fairly certain the majority of the documents he leaked were low level shit, if not all of them.

BUT if I was him in that trial, I would point out that I (him) was able to get all of this information fairly easy onto a 'Lady Gagy mix CD' out of the building. So the military's own incompetent security procedures, not himself, are to blame for the possible deaths and leaking of documents.

When did congress declare war?

I'd like you to stand in front of every single family that lost a loved one in Iraq, Afghanistan, Kuwait, Somalia, Lebanon, Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia or any other far-flung, GOD forsaken shithole country and say to them, "It's okay, Congress didn't declare war."

Besides, THE ISSUE IS COMMITTING TREASON! TREASON is still TREASON regardless of what Congress did or didn't do.

TO EVERYONE ELSE: please feel free to vote me down. I know very well my position is not popular to put it mildly. Just don't come at me with time wasting counter-arguments as impotent as Avior's.

Act of treason, seems Chenny got away with it. Outing a CIA agent. Besides he hasn't gone to court.

Wait a minute. Your point is because Cheney got away with it (I'd like to see Cheney on trial myself, by the way), Manning should get away with it, also?

What playground did you get your law degree from?

Ok, when does the Miliatry have a right to commit crimes against humanity?

Never, but that question is a truism, not an argument. Let's look at your question's theme: crimes against humanity.

Manning's TREASON can be considered a crime against humanity as he's made it possible for terrorist organisations to more easily glean information, develop better tactics and strategies and thereby make more effective plans to carry out terrorist acts. MANNING HAS MADE TERRORISTS STRONGER! Assange's contention that no one will die because of these leaks is as bad as saying guns don't kill people.

Let me ask YOU a question. Does facilitating the deaths of thousands qualify as a crime against humanity?

Hey, you asked your truism. I can ask mine.

Unchecked power kills people, Pvt. Manning exposed our crimes. The United States is not above the law. The United States military is just as guilty as the terrorists. They kill civilians, we kill civilians. I bet if the terrorists had their own Pvt. Manning you wouldn't be so damn vengeful.

I am an ex-US Air Force wife, and thoroughly disgusted with our country and its' undeclared wars.

Treason is a word, arbitrarily applied to the powerless, and kept carefully at a distance from those who lie to the entire world to get us into all of the wars you just mentioned. Not one of those countries ever attacked Americans on US soil.

sorry, but the disastrous results of Cheney's diabolical deeds have been proven. It has yet to be proven that anything Manning leaked endangered anyone but the jokers, liars and thieves who are running the show, and just as an aside, this nation was built upon a series of acts that King George rightfully declared TREASON.

"he's made it possible for terrorist organisations to more easily glean information, develop better tactics and strategies and thereby make more effective plans to carry out terrorist acts. MANNING HAS MADE TERRORISTS STRONGER!"

Where did you get that sanctimonious bit of bullshit, from Fox News or Rush Limbaugh?

"Does facilitating the deaths of thousands qualify as a crime against humanity?"

Yes it does, and I defy you to start reading the death reports the DOD issues on practically a daily basis, and make a serious attempt to determine who is actually the author of those deaths? Your stinking, lying, cheating, corporate-pandering Federal government, that's who. Take the blinders off and take the time to figure out why we are losing so many young men and women in wars that are being fought to open the way for corporate exploitation and covered in the all too familiar terms of mindless slogans like Operation Iraqi Freedom, or Operation Enduring Freedom. Where did you get your "let me bury my head in the sand" degree?

Maybe if the leadership of America would not keep the public in the dark because they think we would riot the streets with what they think we can't handle, people like this private wouldn't have had to tell the truth because it already would have been known. People today can handle information and those who can't have at least one friend can and will slap them if they start panicking. Why your taking the side of a corrupt enterprise that would rather kill people for profit - or just because they feel the people are no longer needed is far beyond me. Don't even try saying Manning is committing treason here; wrong place to stick up for the decision to have him killed for telling the truth. With your logic that I am assuming based off your answer to have him killed; do you think we should all be killed then because on this website there are a lot of people that discuss and reveal military/government secrets. Some are agreed upon some aren't. Do you think they should kill me because I support his so called "treason" and if anything help in communicating these topics?

Fine, but why did we have to go in the first place. We didn't need to be in those countries. In fact, there are more people confused on why we are still at "war" on the other side of the ocean when we have our own massive problems here. Those people did not need to die. It's been nothing but false flag attacks, cover-ups, and false reasons to get us to kill some foreigners.

I understand the1union1man2organize to mean that Cheney got away with a lot of crap and is (for the most part) not being held accountable and when some Pvt. does something it's treason automatically.

The war on terror is the biggest lie the government has pulled out of their A$$. Our men are being attacked because of our constant attempt to govern the world and not let other countries fight for freedom as we did ages ago and should do again. And guns DON'T kill people; crazy with guns kill people. People that don't care about others with guns kill people. A gun don't shoot itself. And these leaks can harm people but think about it; what people will be hurt. The ones who led us to war constantly over the years to make a quick buck and to destabilize as well as to confuse a population. The leaks will do more harm than good and if worst comes to worst; I'm looking forward to rebuilding the country to have a new achievement to tell our kids about instead of that crap about leaving Britain to be free just so we can have the same stuff that made us leave in the first place but with Americans and not the King this time.

POINT ! +^d !

I am on your side of the fence on the "right" and "wrong" of this,.............
but, no,....I don't really think "treason",...as such, as a concept,.....( not talking about application issues here ),.....is inherently deficient.

When its "personal",....we call it "betrayal",.....and it exists.
When its collective; tribal ( "clan"-still betrayal,....I think ) and BIGGER ; "treason" is a valuable/accurate/descriptive feature of the English language.

SO,.....I think he ACTED FOR THE GREATER COLLECTIVE GOOD ; NOT treason.
......... but NOT because I believe "treason" has no place in language discussing ethics.

If you don't believe terrorists groups are parsing those leaks for actionable intelligence then it is YOU with YOUR head in the sand...and it's probably a GOOD THING that you are EX-Air Force.

I'm disgusted, not vengeful. I don't have to be vengeful when terrorists discover their Pvt. Mannings. Terrorists summarily execute them AND their families WITHOUT TRIAL

I don't doubt that the leaks have also uncovered crimes on America's side. Those will be investigated in time. I want the transgressors brought to justice.

STILL, HAVING SAID ALL THAT, I have read NOTHING that excuses Manning's TREASON. His ONLY DEFENSE for his actions is he was disobeying unlawful orders. That is the only time a service member can act on his own. His orders to act as custodian and secure classified information were not unlawful. The release of this information to unauthorised persons or agencies violates the UCMJ and Article III of the Constitution.

Providing aid and comfort to the enemy IS TREASON per Article III of the US Constitution. Manning committed TREASON. These are facts.

lmao!

You make a valid point but rather misinformed, we go to the street all the time, rallies and protests are daily occurances in this country, go get a new news source.

CHILLlll, friend! inhale and drink some chamomile tea. don't you hear, read and see a revolution arising?

Although, I'm compelled to admit, YOU make a valid point!

ty and 5/19/13 - expect it....hope your right but i cannot see anything yet...

lulz on your rallies...beck?^^ steward?^^ (many people but only comedy even if the idea was the right one)

maybe your mixing balck fridays with protests....watch some greek protest videos or 1. may in berlin...thats protest...

and dont judge me on been uninformed....your idea of starting a revolution is too idealistic...

GTFO.... you're worthless..

"Any man who desires the blood of another is no man's brother, father or son." -Self Quote

"oppressed one?"
more like Mein Kampf.

He claims to be a soldier so yeah he is oppressed.

great and substantive responce
+^d

it would also put massive riots in the streets...

Just so. Spot on. Yepper. Agreed. and " +^d "

He should be interviewed . If he has been in isolation it can take a toll . There has to be some way to know if he is alright . What happened to freedom of the press ?

I hear you artemis6. I heard he's been tortured. There is no fredom of the press. The only way I hear about Manning is at Michael Moore's web site or through e-mails.

THEY ARE HIDING HIM FOR A REASON . If he was that evil a guy , they would parade him around , like they did Saddam , but no . Nothing . This person has more yet to tell . And we will never know what it is if he dies .

I believe you are correct, sadly.

Signed!

ditto

I bet he's not smiling now. Haha, that piece of shit.

Signed! Voted up!

Isn't that what you were taught as a child? Oh wait sorry thats Soviet Russia, not America

Assassinate is the wrong word, but they were seeking the death penalty against him.

Also, he wasn't "aiding the enemy" unless you stretch that word out to be meaningless bullshit like "psychologically aiding the enemy by disheartening Americans."

He spoke truth to power, and in this country that means getting slammed.

Ayipis came back... if this site is worse than fox, than why are you here????

I'm starting to think with the blatantly racist avatars that you use that you are a white racist.

Please show me an article that can make a rational and sane case for "aiding the enemy," because the way things are worded right now, the American people, who do not agree with these undeclared wars, and have been the recipients of what Bradley Manning leaked, are the enemy.

+^d .

good call, looks like he changed it.

The "whistle-blower" will NEVER be loved by the powers that be.

( I'm sort of OK with hating the "powers that be" across all of time and space BECAUSE of that singular feature,....if for no other reason,......but there ARE others. )

+^d to THAT.

You don't "like" people standing up for thier beliefs? You perhaps don't agree with his methodology, but thats entirely different.

standing up for ones beliefs is admirable but then a career in the military should not have been begun.

What if your beliefs are to defend your home against all enemies foriegn and domestic?! Sounds like the poor tried to fulfill both of those beliefs, once through misguidance of his superiors and once through his "treasonous" >lol< act...that post was slightly myopic.

i applaud what he did but he knew or should have known what he was giving up and sacrificing to do what he did. if he didnt then oh well

I like people standing up for their beliefs but I question the wisdom of releasing so much information that can potentially endanger people and compromise diplomatic actions. I agree this is a fine line and I have not personally sorted out my own feelings on the issue.

Field operatives working under falsified aliases in an illegal war are innocents? ::mutters incoherently::

"the information that didn't tell of anything wrong that the government was doing, but did give away details on valuable government information to our enemies."

That information doesn't exist. Nothing was leaked that gave away anything important about troop positions or any other tactical information. And if you believe that, you're clueless. Because you can fucking go download it right now and see for yourself.

The Pentagon is just making shit up because they're embarrassed and angry.

Jesus was a whistle blower too, look what they did to him.

nothing. he is fictional

Man you are getting more irriating with every post, I am an athiest, life long and devout to my religion ::snickers:: but at this point there is no agruing that Jesus as a man existed, you fool... the only remaining "debate" is wether he was sent here by the one true god to die for our sins, or if he was just a street corner whack job with a god complex.

actually oh wise one there is much debate over whether the single entity jesus existed or if he was a composite made whole cloth from myths and legends, but please feel free to ramble on

::Rolls eyes:: OK, there is debate over wether he has become a compilation of the actions of others, but HE STILL EXISTED, maybe the real Jesus only said one of the things he supposedly said in the bible and the rest are from other uncredited folk, but JESUS did exist, even if his name wasn't Jesus at the time and has since been contorted into what people believe of him today, and the only reason the compilation theory has any merit at all is the limited amount of recorded information prior to the conscription of the Bible, but there are written accounts of the man from before the Bible's compression into a single book that contain the name Jesus.

So there is little doubt he existed as I said, the doubt is over what actions and words can honestly be attributed to that individual, and not to some scholar of a forgetten origin.

rolls eyes.. cute

so you are saying that somewhere there may have been someone who may or may not have been named jesus that said or did maybe one of the things ascribed to the jesus of the bible at one point in all of history?

congrats you are truly a scholar.

go away

oh hindotka, i see you are back. ok then..... you'll be deleted soon. Our government is as crooked as can be...i am ALL for expsoure o same. Your sheepish ass....should be sent down the river. you'll be gone soon.

You need to look further into your legal rhetoric there pal. Geneva convention and Bill of rights both protect people rights and safety above a "contract", any contract that puts people at risk in anyway could almost be considered irrelevent to the other issues.

he or she is actually correct. if current aspires to be a news or information hub then at least its users should try to use the language properly. manning may be executed as punishment for perceived misdeeds, not assassinated.