President Does Good...Obama Orders Guantanamo Trials to Resume

i think there was originally overwhelming support for obamas push to close the place. it was one of his election winning platforms. the reality of the utter viciousness of islamo-fascism was probably the more likely reason as well as moderating two years before the next election cycle

hard to tell them apart anymore

Anymore? I can't remember when I could.

i stand corrected miz, thanks

i'm never afraid to admit anything, if i were i woulndnt have posted this story. just because i didnt vote for the man nor overall care for his politics and policies, i am not so indoctrinated to the right or brainwashed like the left that i cant give the man kudo's when on the rare occasion he makes the right decision. i am sure part of the decison making process was anchored in the fact that the presidential elections are only 2 years away. if the man doesnt attract more folks he'll lose for sure. if he keeps becoming more like me, he could possibly get my vote, but it will take a lot of convincing.

no no don’t be modest now congo you and your republican buddies couldn't have asked for a better president than Obama. think about it ( I am sure you or at least your party did) that even had McCain some how miraculously won the election he never would have been able to get all the underhanded gitomo and patriot act extensions and the Afgan war continuing none of that or the many other protections and assistance Obama gave to your corporate welfare and banks would have been possible without Obama in the white house. I got to admit you guys improved since Jimmy carter Instead of manufacturing and outside incident to occur you just planted a dupe in the other party who then parroted off pretty words to that base and then once in office screwed that base and ruined the party name for the next election ....smooth man real smooth.....so pretty go analysis if I do say so my self which I do.

you give republicans way too much credit. but one things for sure, if mccain had been elected and had implemented much of what obama has, the left would be having a cow. its amazing how silent things can be when the man dems voted for goes against the political grain.

how?
i pay less taxes, less soldiers are dying, jobless claims are going down, and republicans are forced to look stupid by not working on jobs at all (cus, you know, they talk out of their ass too) and they're going to get Obama re-elected.

that's my perspective-- you must live in "the real america" or something because how has the country suffered?

and you won't even respond to my post-- you never do. WHENEVER, without fail, someone asks you for substance you don't reply, you're quick to insult liberals and you jump on topics quick but then just as quickly you fall silent.

at least the ass who posted this story TRIES to reply-- i'm sure Congoboy will have some stupid 'you leftylibs' bullshit response... but not you.

I don't respond to your posts either.

alright, congratulations.

wow, are you ever bamboozled!

i dont blame him. its difficult to respond to uneducated, moronic comments that are based in fantasy

wow, are you bamboozled!

LOL

what part is based in fantasy exactly?
the part where i completely predicted what you're doing?

or the part where i ask you guys to back up why you're saying something?
i'm confused, is assuming you're statements have some basis, is that where i'm dreaming?

also, if you happen to explain your points of view in ways that make sense and don't just blame leftylibs or muslims, let me know how i'm bamboozled exactly... thanks.

good to hear from you dude. you been on sabatical?

"Just another example of Obama talking out of his ASS and then learning that reality is not as sanitary and convenient as his brainless election rhetoric. The country has suffered greatly during this horrific period of On The Job Training."

If you weren't such an idiot jackass, you'd actually be on to a nugget of truth there.

Obama did talk strongly of his ideals in the election only to learn that many of them were not possible while actually governing.

In this case, there's nothing inherently impossible about closing Guantanamo. The problem is the the American PEOPLE and especially the right-wing are COWARDS. They are afraid to allow these accused foreigners be tried in courts and housed in jails in their own backyards.

Your last sentence is insane. The hallmark of Obama is that he trains fast, is endlessly reasonable, and is not afraid to pivot in either direction when needed. The only people with any grounds to complain about anything Obama has done are the left, and if they're reasonable they wouldn't either.

Yeah, just busy.
It's good to have an alternative voice here at Current.

this is how youre bamboozled...i pay less taxes, less soldiers are dying, jobless claims are going down, and republicans are forced to look stupid by not working on jobs at all (cus, you know, they talk out of their ass too) and they're going to get Obama re-elected

no ones afraid. we just want them tried the way they are suppose to be, in a military tribunal. in my opinion those that are guilty of plotting against america and would bring harm to us should have been shot on the battle field. enemy combatants do not deserve civil rights or the rights of an american citizen

yup. too many parrots on here

so by stating what is happening now-- all true, no fantasy-- that equals bamboozled?
thanks for the lesson.

you are incapable of predicting anything i do or what my motivations are. that takes a level of intelligence that is capable of dissecting supreme intellect. you are only capable of parroting what your beer swilling, cigarette smoking friends say.

you're right. you know WAY too much about me.
good job supreme intellect.

i must be confusing the term "leftylib" and the support of racially profiling muslims with some other congoboy, so nevermind what i said.

you're right and i'm brainwashed by the beer swillers...?

what battle field are you referring to?
whatever country we happen to be in at the time?

what constitutes harm? bombing children's hospitals? shooting up schools? those people get civilian trials, and they suffer the consequences.

do you have no faith in your great country's legal system that they can punish people accordingly?

no, you are correct. i am the racial profile supporting congoboy. after all we're at war with islamo-fascism and who else we gonna profile, protestants and catholics?

pretty much...A+ for posty

yup, again youre learning A+. the intentional bombing of hospitals and schools and dont forget the wholesale slaughter of innocent civilians in the name of allah is directly attributable to islamo-fascists. sure with obama's flip flop i am now confident that a proper trial for the fascist gitmo detainee's will be forthcoming.

no we're not at war with islamo-fascists, we're at war with terrorism, be it from who ever. there's white christian people who want to take over the government by force, they don't count as terrorists?

so ALL muslims are brown skinned middle eastern? there's no light skinned people who are muslim? muslim people don't know where to buy nike shoes, levi's and some crucifex jewelry?

i'm assuming you can't claim no on those questions, so you want to racially profile brown people who dress in robes or have a muslim name-- right? even though every terrorist that has attacked us dressed western and had nice hair cuts, and even though there's black athletes with muslim names. those things don't matter, all robe wearing muslim named people are probably terrorist?

except for in oklahoma, when it was attributed to a christian guy, right? or in colorado, when it was white boys who weren't muslim. or the korean guy in virginia who was christian? or the arizona guy...

in fact, i'm POSITIVE (even though you say i can't predict anything from you) I'M FUCKING POSITIVE that you can't find more muslim attacks on america than i can find christians-- all i have to do is watch the news while you scour your muslim-watch websites and we'll have our answers.

well it seems most terrorists are islamo-fascists so again you are wrong and if you havent noticed the threat of a government take over by force is more of an uber leftist program. did i ever equate color with muslims? again you are wrong, it is always the left that seems overly obsessed with race and color. notice how you rarely hear anyone on the right mention race or color. its always the left accusing the right of something that doesnt exist in our vocabulary or mind set. i am unaware as to the shopping habits of muslims and am curious what relevancy it has to islamo-fascism or our discussion here. by the way when one profiles, the style of dress and the color of ones skin are just two small elements when disseminating a potential terrorist from an innocent person.

YOU are a COWARD.

There are no two ways about it. Whatever else you may be, from heartless to stupid, you fear human rights and due process for all. That makes you a coward.

well you are right about only one thing, but fear or cowardice are not in the equation. when someone is guilty of plotting the demise of my country, has carried out a terrorist act on it, or is guilty of the murder of my fellow country men whether on the right or left, i do not believe in human rights or due process for the inhuman. and it looks like your president may agree with me.

youve got me convinced my parrot friend. maybe not more attacks and we can thank bush and obama somewhat for that, but certainly more deaths. peace!

The problem is you usually can not have "is guilty" without due process. Whether that be a civilian court or a military tribunal actually doesn't matter to me.

You are in a completely different place than Obama or myself. And it's an ugly place coward.

and i can be proud to be a coward in your glossy eyes. try reality someday, what a concept!

i really appreciate all the edits you make to your posts after your initial ignorant rant-- then you remember to throw some allah or islamic references in there to make the reply scary, good job.

anyway, you complained about me bringing race in, after you said: "no, you are correct. i am the racial profile supporting congoboy. after all we're at war with islamo-fascism and who else we gonna profile, protestants and catholics?"

what the fuck do you think racial profile is genius?! it's looking at people and judging them for their race. don't be stupid, you can't claim you only want to "racially profile" muslims-- because you don't know what a muslim looks like, there's no muslim uniform. that's what their "shopping habits" have to do with "islamo-fascism" as in they can look just like you, how would you profile that?

oh i see you've added to that comment too, so about the two elements, you're saying they'd talk to everyone then and pick out those two little elements? or if people don't possess those elements then they won't get stopped? which is it, either, your racial profiling desires aren't failsafe or they'd have to talk to everyone, including catholics and protestants to see if they are actually muslims in disguise... so there goes your desire to not hassle the non-islamo-fascist.

you're right, the right never has to mention color, you guys do plenty good just to mention kenya, or islam, or drug wars in mexico-- you've got racism down to a craft where you don't have to mention color-- so you guys leave us having to point out that the only variable between the stuff you hate and the hypocritical judgments you put out is the fact that the person is different looking. Obama says nice things to muslims or he says he WOULD sit down and talk with iran-- oh, it's cuz he grew up in muslim indonesia *wink wink, NOT in america, not like us (nice white christians)* is the implication, and you'll deny it but whatever, you know it's true.

nothing in this world is fail safe, except death and taxes. israel does however have a pretty good racial profiling program and over there everyone pretty much looks the same. but really, i dont think anyone would mistake a protestant or a catholic for a beady eyed islamo-fascist though, nice try little buddy. and you guys have mud slinging lying bullshit to an art when youre on the losing end of an argument. again please try and come up with some of your own rhetoric next time instead of parroting your beer swilling, cigarette smoking friends. fuck dude i almost wish our enemy where white catholic nuns, theyed be easier to profile and you leftylibs would finally shut the fuck up for a change, at least temporarily

who are you referring to with the beer swilling and cigs? i thoght us leftylibs are latte and wine drinkers. i don't even understand what that means, are you saying you've heard everything i have to say from other people so you're lumping me in there? do you simply not like what i say so you claim i'm just copying people? do you think i take your comments to my friends and as a group come up with a response? are you trying to impress people with your replies? do you think you're funny or bitchin' or anything? you trying to demean me does nothing at all, trust. so little buddy, i'll go check in with my beer swillers now...

but again, you sound like you start to concede that this is about terrorism and idealogies and not about race-- and then you talk about beady eyed "islamo-fascist" and all i can say is YES YOU CAN CONFUSE CATHOLICS AND MUSLIMS. like light skinned egyptians or turks, so if stick with your rationale that catholics and protestants look a certain way then that IS about race.

just ask them to recite the u.s. constitution or pledge of allegiance and the accent will give them away every time. pretty easy and effective profiling test if you ask me.

you're still not addressing WHO you ask the questions to, you say muslims but you don't tell me how you know what a muslim is.

clearly you don't have an answer that isn't based on race, or that doesn't exclude christians from being profiled or you would have said it by now-- i've asked you plenty of times so admit it, or stop avoiding my actual question.

it must be the drugs. dude i'm not sure what youre attempting to have me say. i'd accuse you of being stupid but that would be kinda rude. when profiling why should we include christians, unless they at some point become the predominant threat. while there are some islamic converts from other countries its pretty rare to see them dumb enough to blow themselves up in the name of allah. probably the best way to profile would be to start with country of origin which could be determined through passports. closely watching whether someone acts suspiciously or makes contact with questionable collegues or attempts to purchase explosives, has a one way ticket without luggage, smells funny, or is shifty eyed. its really quite simple. any more questions grass hopper?

i've never seen you or your posts before. this is the first time. so your statement "you never do" is bullshit.

then again, I've been away from Current for a LONG time. I haven't had any interest in respnding to morons. Still don't.

Hey, speaking of "less taxes", how exactly is that possible? Obama has NOT cut taxes, he only extended the existing tax cuts.
And then he increased taxes in other areas.
But how's that debt and deficit thing working out? We had somewhere around $200 billion deficit under Bush. Now it's well over a trillion per year. Wow, your messiah did a bang up job on that! (oh, that's right! it's BUSH'S fault)

As for GOP and jobs: I guess it's too much to ask for libtards to notice that joblessness was increasing until the GOP took the house and extended the Bush-era tax cuts, and then voila, unemployment started to decrease. Neat how that worked, eh? They had been saying it all along, and the dummycrats didn't listen.

Hey, one last thing: didn't your messiah just violate the constitution and start yet another war in libya? is that the kind of change you were expecting?

At least Bush got congressional authority. How do you explain Obama's launch first, ask forpermission later action?

considering it took you two weeks to reply, i stand by my implication that you suck at responding.

and who calmed him my messiah? that's a pretty stupid thing to say, and added to the fact that you don't know what you're talking about, makes you sound kind of dumb in general so careful where you throw your "morons" accusations.

obama cut taxes to most of the country in the stimulus, it was like Bush's stimulus, but instead of one check, it was spread out, maybe 20 bucks more on every check-- so i'm not claiming he changed our economy or something, but he did lower the taxes.

i'm not defending the deficit, i don't know why you feel the need to bring irrelevant stuff up because that's not what my comment was about. i said the taxes (true) less soldiers are dying (true since we've pulled thousands out of iraq).

and the jobless claims have nothing to do with the taxes cuts from bush (funny how you decry "it was bushes fault" until it's something you want credit for then you slather his name all over it) Jobs were growing all throughout 2010 in the private sector, more jobs than created in ALL of Bush's 8 years, but they were offset with all the public sector jobs that were cut from state budgets. tax cuts not withstanding.

having more money on hand has nothing to do with hiring, if there's no demand no one is going to hire people. why pay people to just stand around creating stuff for a warehouse, or to just sit in a office not servicing anyone? when people need something, is when jobs are created, and people couldn't pay for anything, that's why the job outlook sucked, corporations made record profits last year and had BILLIONS in CASH-- but the jobs didn't come until the republicans were voted in? great rationale buddy.

if you pay attention to the fine print of this stupid as decision in libya (that i also don't defend) he didn't "start a war" (currently at least) we're providing support to a UN sponsored initiated, we happen to have the biggest military so we out-power the other countries involved, but we aren't in charge of the thing, and there's no troops.