Community | March 09, 2011 | 108 comments

Wisconsin capitol bans recording, flags, reading, balloons, chairs, bags, backpacks, photography, etc etc etc

source: http://host.madison.com/ct/news/local/govt-and-politics/article_44b6ca48-498a-11e0-8a55-001c...

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The free-wheeling days inside the Capitol appear to be over.
Following weeks of eardrum-shattering noise, acres of protest signage and tons of bedding and empty pizza boxes, order will be the order of the day, beginning Tuesday.
The sergeants at arms for the Legislature's Senate and Assembly came out with their rules of decorum Monday night — akin to what's expected in church, the library or a movie theater.
Capitol Police also issued more extensive entry rules to the Capitol for Tuesday, with a very specific list of prohibited items, ranging from animals to massage chairs.
The Senate gallery rules, established by the body for the 2011-12 legislative session, include:
— Visitors must be seated and quiet at all times, with no leaning over the balcony or putting anything (such as signs) over the balcony.
— No signs or public displays, reading of books or newspapers, tobacco products, or food and beverages.
— Cell phones and pagers must be turned off, no photography (video or still) or sound recordings allowed.
— No backpacks or large bags.
In the Assembly Gallery, in accordance with Assembly Rule 26, the following is not allowed:
— Eating, drinking, smoking, talking, use of mobile phones, laptop computers, video cameras, still cameras, newspapers, bags, briefcases, signs, posters, placards, or hats.
— There will be no leaning over railings or sitting in the aisles.
— Any outbursts, such as clapping, cheering, jeering or stomping.
Visitors to the Capitol on Tuesday (open from 8 a.m. to 6 p.m.) will be required to enter through either the ground level North Hamilton Street doors or the King Street doors.
People with physical disabilities, Capitol staff and credentialed media should use the ground level Martin Luther King Jr. Blvd. entrance.
Security screeners won't allow the following items into the Capitol:
— Animals (except service animals), balloons, coolers, crockpots and other cooking appliances, easels, extension cords, large bags, boxes, or storage containers for food or other items.
— Massage chairs/beds, mattresses, sleeping bags, blankets, pillows, musical instruments, noisemakers (air horns, buckets, drumsticks, trash can lids, vuvuzelas), portable PA systems, signs or flags on sticks.
— Tables, chairs, furniture, tape (masking, painter's, duct, transparent, etc.)
— Other items that may be considered "inconsistent" with trying to get the building emptied at closing, or whose use could be a threat to public health or safety.
Public visitor entrances may change from day to day, depending on events and legislative sessions scheduled, the Capitol Police said.
As the Department of Administration, Legislature and Capitol Police fine tune their policies, the information can be found here.
Both the Senate and Assembly are planning to be in session beginning at 11 a.m. Tuesday, according to the body's respective calendars.

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108 comments // Wisconsin capitol bans recording, flags, reading, balloons, chairs, bags, backpacks, photography, etc etc etc

  • PoliticalAmazon
  • gatormouth
    • 0
      gatormouth  
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    • This is not getting much MSM, but Maddow has mentioned it a couple of times.

      "Financial manager bill passes Michigan Senate
      Lawmakers crafting final version; Snyder's approval expected
      Karen Bouffard / Detroit News Lansing Bureau

      Lansing— Legislation that would allow emergency financial managers to throw out union contracts and overrule elected officials in financially distressed municipalities and school districts was approved Wednesday by the state Senate. Similar legislation passed in the House in February, and the two chambers are working on a final version to send to Gov. Rick Snyder. Snyder has called for more authority for emergency financial managers and is expected to sign the legislation into law.

      The legislation outlines a detailed process to help communities and school districts right their finances.

      But labor unions and local officials object to provisions that would allow emergency financial managers to ignore union contracts, undo local ordinances and dissolve city councils and school boards.

      Minority Leader Gretchen Whitmer, D-East Lansing, called the legislation an "unfair and unjustified power grab."

      "This bill represents bigger government, more bureaucrats (and) less accountability and less transparency," Whitmer said, sending up a cheer from opponents outside the chamber that could be heard on the Senate floor. "Where the heck is the tea party now?"

      From The Detroit News: http://detnews.com/article/20110310/POLITICS02/103100375/Financial-manager-bill-...

    • 1 year ago
  • Mark701
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      Mark701  

    • To everyone in Wisconsin, FUCK THE "RULES" !!!! They're the equivalent of "children should be seen and not heard". SCREW THEM!!

    • 1 year ago
  • sageohio
  • August_K
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      August_K  
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    • I just read in some news article that Walkers budget bill has some pretty crazy stuff in it. He is giving HIMSELF the power to approve all Bills before the legislature can even discuss them. If he doesn't like the Bill.......he tosses it.

      He's not a Governor.....he's a freaking wanna be Dictator.

      I wish I could find the article again....it wasn't in my browser history.
      I use CoolPreviews (firefox add-on) so that might be why it's not showing
      up in History. It lets you look at pages without actually opening a new
      window or tab.

      Here's an article that talks about his Major Power Grab....even Conservatives are saying it's all about power and not about fiscal stuff.

      http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-wisconsin-budget-20110304,0...

    • 1 year ago
  • Mark701
  • August_K
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      August_K  

    • Walker is becoming a Nazi-like Dictator.
      He DOES NOT own the people's government buildings and he needs to
      be reminded of that. I hope someone gets a judge to rule on this before he
      gets away with it.

      What's next.......no protesters within a mile of the Capitol?

    • 1 year ago
  • H2O_4U
    • +3
      H2O_4U  

    • The libertarian elitist want nothing more than to turn all of America into the capitol of Wisconsin now. I can hear them rubbing their greedy hands together now.

    • 1 year ago
  • Mark701
  • JustZ
    • +1
      JustZ  

    • this feels appropriate at this juncture, if not cathartic-

      "...and tomorrow, you may make it a crime to read about it. And soon you may ban books and newspapers. And then you may turn Catholic against Protestant, and Protestant against Protestant, and try to foist your own religion upon the mind of man. If you can do one, you can do the other. Because fanaticism and ignorance is forever busy, and needs feeding.

      And soon, your Honor, with banners flying and with drums beating we'll be marching backward, BACKWARD, through the glorious ages of that Sixteenth Century when bigots burned the man who dared bring enlightenment and intelligence to the human mind!" - Henry Drummond/Inherit The Wind

    • 1 year ago
  • Persecuted
  • kayatz3
  • bailey78
  • rustyred
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      rustyred  

    • According to NBC there is to be a vote at 7 p.m. Central Time at the Wisconsin capital to strip the unions of their bargaining rights. Wisconsin, let the fireworks continue.

    • 1 year ago
  • extracrazykiwi2008
  • bailey78
  • Randolph_Greer
  • SIBob
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      SIBob  
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    • Where there’s a will there’s a way. Hit them at their local political office. Deluge their phone systems and emails. Overload their websites. Start your own website. Be creative. The next step is a general strike. Shut it all down. Force them to deal with us. We are only getting started.
      "We shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender"
      http://sibob.org/wordpress/

    • 1 year ago
  • COMMONSENSEFORCOMMONGOOD_COM
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      COMMONSENSEFORCOMMONGOOD_COM  
    • SIBob:

      Hey, SIBob! I'm with you buddy, shutting them down will blow their minds. Have you noticed that I'm helping call for an internaitonal day of work stoppage for May 5th? We hope for a response that will stop them in their tracks. ( acknowledgement to Gandhi, of course ). We're posting everywhere! You want to help?

      btw, check out the info sparkyjp supplied, it's in "FEDERAL RESERVE STOLE AMERICA!"

    • 1 year ago
  • CalgarC
  • JustZ
  • Frosty46
  • lazloman
    • +3
      lazloman  

    • Faux news is beaming reports of how violent the protest is. If its so violent, why don't they film it? No, no, I'm not talking about that Fox video with the palm trees from Sacramento. Walker could further his case by showing all the violence, but he can't, because its not happening. Folks, the State Police, who endorsed Walker AND got a pass on the collective bargaining issue actually SUPPORTS the protests. They have joined the protesters in a sleep over the other night AFTER being asked by the governor to remove them. They refused. Think about that and ask Hannity, BIllO and the others why that is. Ask them why the showed union footage from a strike in Sacramento in the context of a discussion about Madison. Faux never actually said that footage was from Madison, nor they say it wasn't. But by showing it while talking about the protest, they gave their viewers the impression that these were the Madison protesters. Honest journalism?

    • 1 year ago
  • kayatz3
  • August_K
  • Nephwrack
  • extracrazykiwi2008
  • Itsbatman_Durr
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      Itsbatman_Durr  

    • doesnt really seem all tht big a deal to expect a place of business to be businesslike, but by making a point of it they are asking for trouble

    • 1 year ago
  • wyndesonge
    • +8
      wyndesonge  

    • Without the concurrence of progressive Wisconsin it should not be attempted, but Koch-Walker is just begging for a NATIONAL MARCH ON MADISON.

    • 1 year ago
  • Darevalo
    • +7
      Darevalo  

    • looks like there gonna need you guys back at the capitol or else there gonna set a president for a 1984 like society.

    • 1 year ago
  • ze
  • COMMONSENSEFORCOMMONGOOD_COM
  • ze
    • +2
      ze  
    • COMMONSENSEFORCOMMONGOOD_COM:

      Ummm... no such parallel really. Mugabe is my bogey-man-despot. Whenever I have an "Insert Despot Here" need, I fish him out. He is good for things like that. I was seeking to draw a parallel between Scott Walker and Mugabe, but I guess some, most notably Frosty, didn't get it. Henceforth Frosty's not invited to the afterparty!

    • 1 year ago
  • COMMONSENSEFORCOMMONGOOD_COM
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      COMMONSENSEFORCOMMONGOOD_COM  
    • ze:

      I hear you. He is deserving of it. When I was in Zimb many years ago, and he was still growing into the monster we now know him to be, I listened to the rage of the descendants of the colonial farmers whose farms were being expropriated. At the time, I harbored secret empathy for the native blacks, way outside the big cities, who lived in mud and stick huts on the edges of vast land tracts owned by colonial descendants. I felt the natives deserved more than they were getting.We learned that the gratuities which we we leaving for the help of the various preserves we visited, was the equivalent to what the average individual of those areas earned during an entire year. Then it became clear to me why those natives would literally risk their lives, to oblige even their anticipation of our desires. One man tripped on a tree root and crashed his face into the stone walk, because he used his hands to hold the eggs he carried in the air, because he was so determined that our parting day's breakfast should be very good. But Mugawbe, turned out like Qaddafi, and to some degree, like Castro. Unfortunately, Cuba didn't have oil.

      But when i first saw your post, i quickly thought it was a bad caricature of obama. lol. but i did allow for the possibility of it wasn't. thanks for your response.

    • 1 year ago
  • Varex_Sythe
  • extracrazykiwi2008
  • kayatz3
  • wyndesonge
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      wyndesonge  

    • They are conducting a funeral at the Wisconsin capitol. The deceased? Democracy. The Koch suckers keep escalating the confrontation so Koch-Walker can call in the National Guard.

    • 1 year ago
  • bluestranger
  • Leen61
  • Mark701
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      Mark701  
    • wyndesonge:

      Walker better be very, very, careful about this. He lit the fuse to a bomb and now he's got to try to put it out before it reaches the explosives. This is going to get interesting.

    • 1 year ago
  • figgdimension
  • dinm76
  • figgdimension
  • kennymotown
  • ze
  • kennymotown
  • CalgarC
  • kennymotown
  • bailey78
  • kennymotown
  • bailey78
  • kennymotown
  • bailey78
  • kennymotown
  • totally_dilapidated
  • kennymotown
  • COMMONSENSEFORCOMMONGOOD_COM
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      COMMONSENSEFORCOMMONGOOD_COM  

    • Now, will the people accept those restrictions? If they don't, will the police now arrest them? Since the protesters have them backing up, shouldn't they keep on pushing? Perhaps this is the time for Wisconsiners to issue their own set of rules.

    • 1 year ago
  • totally_dilapidated
  • COMMONSENSEFORCOMMONGOOD_COM
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      COMMONSENSEFORCOMMONGOOD_COM  
    • totally_dilapidated:

      You're fucking fracturing me dude! lmao!
      don't know yet, do I?
      however, the right to negotiate is the tip of the iceberg
      which Walker's raiders are trying to sink
      whenever a momentum like their's occurs
      i ask, why not maximize it's value.
      has any activity other than confrontation
      resulted in significant government change?
      ohh, great dilapidated?

    • 1 year ago
  • Warren_Merrill
  • totally_dilapidated
    • +3
      totally_dilapidated  
    • COMMONSENSEFORCOMMONGOOD_COM:

      .
      oh great... NOW i'm just dilapidated
      i've totally lost my standing and position and veracity
      these are uncompromising times...

      so
      my off-the-cuff historical read is this:

      conflict resolution/revolution in extreme
      ends with a result extreme
      that being
      whoever comes to power from an extreme reaction
      is themselves extreme
      so
      you go from pole-to-pole of extremism

      if a deliberate and deliberated change takes place
      and is not extreme in act and action
      the resulting change is measured

      so far
      the wisconsin protest is a steady measured pressure
      it is relentless
      it is working...

      UPDATE:

      as i write this
      the wisconsin republican senate found a method to work parliamentary procedure
      by this:

      breaking the repair bill into 2 parts
      by separating finance from non-finance measures
      move the separate measures into separate conference committees
      and
      according to the parliamentary rules in wisconsin
      non-finance measures do not need the quorum that includes a democrat on
      the vote to pass

      they pulled it off
      the republicans voted in conference and passed removing unions and
      collective bargaining
      BUT
      according to close scrutiny of the conference committee rules
      there is supposed to be a 24 hour notice given on a vote
      they did not
      so
      the democrats called upon the state attorney general to look what they call
      an illegal vote by not giving the 24 hour notice rule

      we shall see what happens next...

    • 1 year ago
  • totally_dilapidated
  • COMMONSENSEFORCOMMONGOOD_COM
  • COMMONSENSEFORCOMMONGOOD_COM
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      COMMONSENSEFORCOMMONGOOD_COM  
    • totally_dilapidated:

      Yes, i'm catching up to the Wi. dilemma. Without being illegal, the bill still has to go for other votes, doesn't it?

      As to your other sage and scholarly notes, Oh Great Totally Radical_Dilapidated One; (does this make up for my prior diminution of your infinitely concentric, but not necessarily square, self?), is the operative question here: Relative to the entrenched power and resistance of the forces aligned against pro public government reform, what counter measures possibly taken could be considered extreme?

    • 1 year ago
  • totally_dilapidated
  • COMMONSENSEFORCOMMONGOOD_COM
    • 0
      COMMONSENSEFORCOMMONGOOD_COM  
    • totally_dilapidated:

      mmhhh, "less than worm sweat", I struggle to follow the mind where it must have gone to
      come back with that. But, I am reminded of Tim Burtons, A in Wonderland. There, we might come upon sweating and brow wiping worms. BTW, what variety of shrooms do you prefer? lol...

      extreme: Well then, this seems to leave great possibilities for non extreme actions. This would allow for the literal swarming of capitol buildings and legislative chambers with numbers too great to remove or jail, wouldn't it?

    • 1 year ago
  • totally_dilapidated
    • 0
      totally_dilapidated  
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    • COMMONSENSEFORCOMMONGOOD_COM:

      .

      on number of bodies just being overwhelming:

      that would be a great sight
      i hope it happens
      wish i could be there for that one

      crowds and power
      that's mainlining...

      listening to the news through the night
      i hear the people are very upset with the governor subverting due process
      and
      there's going to be a lot of people out in protest tomorrow
      and
      in the student network of communications
      they're going to walk out of school en masse on friday at 2 pm

      as the days go by
      who knows what will develop in organization for the weekend...

      on "less than worm sweat" :

      that's my expression meaning to say someone is or feels low, lower than low
      it's lower than the antless heights
      lower than being a worm
      lower than the sweat off a worm

      so
      to be "less than worm sweat"
      is just off the charts of being low down down to the ground...

      my favorite tim burton flick: beetle juice

      on shrooms:

      back in the days of play
      psychotropics were my favorite
      the vista view was so far and wide
      i wanted to stay
      i couldn't because it was artificial help

      so i figured
      if i do it myself without the help
      i could stay
      so
      i endeavored toward the vista view on my own hook

      it's been quite a trip...
      .

    • 1 year ago
  • COMMONSENSEFORCOMMONGOOD_COM
  • COMMONSENSEFORCOMMONGOOD_COM
  • COMMONSENSEFORCOMMONGOOD_COM
  • totally_dilapidated
  • totally_dilapidated
  • littlwarrior
    • +14
      littlwarrior  

    • Well there are now two options, the one that my gut wants is to storm the capitol throw out every rotten politician and cop in there and then see what happens. Or the more logical option my brains says is better, every single person who enters the capital should do so with tape over their mouths bringing nothing with them, sit peacefully in the halls and not move. everyone dead silent not moving not speaking no signs no posters no photography just fill the halls with men and woman silent and impossibly imposing.

    • 1 year ago
  • Leen61
  • rustyred
  • MDBard
  • bluestranger
    • +10
      bluestranger  

    • My first question is, no cameras or recording devices, where is the transparency or does that just apply when the Democrats are in control? Secondly, will this become permanent? Third, will the Koch Republicans be trucked in to take up seats from the citizens of Wisconsin? Finally, does anybody think Scott or his minions have actually decided to compromise?

    • 1 year ago
  • Leen61
    • +7
      Leen61  
    • bluestranger:

      I don't know about your other 3 questions but noboby in WI thinks Walker or his minions have actually decided to compromise. I know I wouldn't trust Walker as far as I could throw him!

    • 1 year ago
  • bluestranger
  • Leen61
  • SFirman
  • Leen61
  • dinm76
    • +9
      dinm76  

    • What we are watching in WI., is nothing less then Fascism in the absolute meaning of the term! God help this country if the republicans ever gain power again!

    • 1 year ago
  • Demtothecore
    • +11
      Demtothecore  

    • Just who the hell does Walker think he is? Czar or King of WI? WI folks are you going to put up with this jerk for his entire term? WTF is going on in this country where only a select few have rights to do what the hell they want? Even the frigging KKK have more rights to assemble than you WI folks!

    • 1 year ago
  • Leen61
    • +8
      Leen61  

    • Thanks for posting this, bundlebear! F**king Reps! What BS! I'm going to Madison Saturday. I hope we're still allowed to breathe. Can I go to the bathroom?

    • 1 year ago
  • bundlebear
  • Leen61
  • timetide
  • Leen61
  • Phdintruth
  • The_Wanderer_KS
    • +9
      The_Wanderer_KS  

    • Hahaha, like these sets of rules have stopped people from protesting inside of libraries, this won't change anything when it comes to a serious protest, but it will limit day to day annoyances. I do think they're taking it a ways overboard tho.

    • 1 year ago
  • mapczar
    • +9
      mapczar  

    • They forgot the most important rule. You must goose step while in the capital building with your right arm extended, palm facing front.

    • 1 year ago
  • rustyred
  • mapczar
  • rustyred
  • TheAmbivalante
  • rustyred
  • scooter3282
  • mitekillem
    • +12
      mitekillem  

    • Wow...one of the rules is no "talking".
      So...a silent protest then.
      Also no cameras, which means Fox News cannot go in there to expose how violently quiet everyone is.

    • 1 year ago
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