yep, you got it...

Thank you. 2012 Democrats will be back.

Oh please..
There will be no "downfall" of republicans.

They have stayed in office through more severe stabs to the American back.

You got that right.

Corporations have no allegiance to country, only to shareholders and the bottom line. I would not be surprised if some of them view our democracy as a threat to them. This is ultimately going to be the greatest challenge to our freedom as they grab more and more power. Citizens United is just a taste of what we can expect from them--infiltration of the U.S. Supreme Court to sway the law in their favor.

Well said!! I agree with you whole-heartedly on this.

Be carefull with that. Obama needs to be watchewd carefully; although, if we're stuck with the classic tweedle-dee tweedle dum election in 2012, I'll have to most unfortunately agree with you.

"From Obama granting insane tax cuts to the ulberrich" Huh?

If you are referring to the Bush tax cut "extensions"........don't forget that the GOP
was holding hostage the unemployment benefits of MILLIONS of people if the
GOP didn't get THEIR tax cuts extended for the "uberrich".

The Labor Dept stated that the number of unemployed without benefits would have reached about 13 MILLION by May. He "compromised" but he also kept MILLIONS
from possibly losing the only safety net they had left to provide food and shelter
for their families.
He also got the payroll tax reduced for workers...that added a few
bucks to working peoples checks.

Frosty....
You are right in that people always have to die before change happens. It's human nature and we don't have to like it or accept it; however, it's just so plain damn demonstrable!

If Obama had any guts he would have let the taxes on everyone go up. Obama is a coward. This is my opinion. We can agree to disagree, but it will not change the fact that your taxes are going into the pockets of corporations and the wealthy!

Hate to say it, but I think you may be right. Not all Dems are "in on it" but their are those that are. Perhaps the powers to be (oil, et all) let politicians know that they will hurt America's people/economy if those powers don't get their way.

"While the oh so pleasant and polite Democrats sit back an let it happen. The Dems are in on the theft of workers rights just as they are accomplices on every attack on the workers."

Tell that to the 14 Democratic legislators who put their reputations, if not their jobs, on the line by refusing to vote such a crappy piece of legislation into law and fleeing the state. This kind of general condemnation of all Democrats is not helpful and is exactly what contributed to the last election's disastrous vote. We need to target the so-called blue dog Democrats who inexplicably caucus and vote with the GOP on key issues. They need to get behind the President and the party, or get lost. Obama may not be able to express these sentiments without backlash, but we, the voters, certainly can. At town hall meetings, ask the pointed questions, the impolite but important questions and openly record them. Let candidates for office know we are watching and are willing to hold them fully accountable, and that we do not forget.

So, who are you planning to vote for in the next national election?

Didn't you read what I posted above?
The important thing was the MILLIONS of people who could have lost their only safety net.
Possibly as many as 13-14 Million of them by May according to the Labor Dept.

The GOP were the ones that were DEMANDING tax cut extensions for those top 2%.....
those that DID NOT NEED THEM.......NOT Obama!

Yes He Did! Those few bucks add up and go into the economy.

Thats right. take the tax cuts away from the middle class. Less money in the economy.

Unfortunately, your response reflects that of a lot of Americans who were never taught this in school. I was educated in NYC PUBLIC schools for all of my undergraduate edu. and we had such things as Civics class which taught the mechanics of government and American History, which aside from the Revolution and Civil War, also covered Samuel Gompers and the founding of the Labor movement in the USA. If you're interested, Google, Gompers, AFL-CIO and follow the footnotes to additional resources, because I don't think schools even cover this stuff anymore.

Yep and it's because a LOT of liberals got lazy and didn't vote in the primaries.
What's worse is this crap is happening in a whole bunch of states now.
Walker admitted in the prank phone call that he had been talking with other GOP
Gov's.
They ALL want to kill off Democratic funding that comes from Unions so they
have total control over our elections from this year forward.

All working people should be up in arms about this......union and non-union workers.
Our voices and our Democracy is at stake here people!

it's a sad state of affairs in the US .... far too many are just plain lazy when it comes to our government - they don't really follow what is happening. The economy is crappy, lots of unemployment and so it must be the fault of the party in power - kick the bums out, the other party will make it all better
lazy fools.... and now we are paying the price of this laziness.

SPOT ON!

All those who were tricked into voting against their own interests must learn the price of their own peculiar ignorance!

I don't see support for that. I don't think they were lazy and didn't vote. I think they were sending a message to Obama. I submit Obama isn't listening. The revolution will be televised my friends and good people on all sides will probably die.

Don't stop there, the GOP and the teapublicans have done the same thing.

The GOP in the Senate filibustered everything they could to make Obama look ineffective...including some Jobs bills. All the good bills he did get passed didn't
get much media attention.

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I'm glad that Senator was stupid enough to admit it.
Maybe NOW more people will see they were lied to. Walker gave away 140 Million
to his rich donors in January and then a few weeks later he claimed he needed
to cut 137 Million from "public employees".
They have no honor, no integrity..... nor are they true public servants of their people.
They are only interested in power and money.

"I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country. . . . corporations have been enthroned and an era of corruption in high places will follow, and the money power of the country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the people until all wealth is aggregated in a few hands and the Republic is destroyed."

-- U.S. President Abraham Lincoln, Nov. 21, 1864
(letter to Col. William F. Elkins)
Ref: The Lincoln Encyclopedia, Archer H. Shaw (Macmillan, 1950, NY)

You are absolutely correct...I have always said/believed that the Tea Party/Republican Party are the same political party with the same objectives.. Their primary goals are to defeat Obama in 2012, and line the pockets of their rich corporate contributors..They are targeting unions nationwide because most union members support the Democratic Party, and the Republicans are out to destroy all Democratic support..NPR is another organization that they are using phony excuses to "ACORN" it out of existence because they are threatened by factual information..The Wisconsin GOP and the majority of the RNC, are traitors who could care less about people who work for a living...

I think he's just stupid. He basically admitted they lied about everything.

Despite that he may unintelligent, he didn't forget his talking points. It's just that all of these extremists are becoming more and more arrogant. If Supreme Court Justices can openly attend four day retrats with the Kock Brothers and the media prefers to focus on Lindsey Lohan and Charlie Sheen, why shouldn't they say whatever they ant!

right wing extremists are bitches

understand the feeling, but must object to such an action! lv you anyway!

*twilight zone theme in the background*

Thumbs up to your humor!! And I know you are just letting off steam in some comments. My reaction came from the seriousness we face here in Wisconsin. By internet,fb and blog posts we have had to continually remind each other to keep our tempers. Nothing would make Walker, his followers and the entire Rebublican Party, Tea-bagggers and Fascists happier than were we to lose our self control. They want it so bad that Fox actually aired a video of a violent protest from I think San Diego, saying it was tape from the protests in Madison! Too bad someone noticed the palm trees in the background of that fake news!! Really, palm trees don't really fare too well here in Wisconsin, even when it isn't winter!

So please excuse my occasional seriousness. With you in spirit brother!

peace

its a bitch to be serious sometimes

No - it just shows how freakin stupid the mass majority of the American voters are for electing this extreme right wing conservative tea bagger Republicans. They are so ridiculously clueless that they don't even realize they are voting against their own best interest to further enrich the already obscenely rich.

Voted up!

We've been telling them that for ages but they just won't listen.

Maybe when they get done helping to bust all the unions and all their bosses
start telling them BS stories about company "deficits" and that they need to
lower their wages and taking away their vacation time.......maybe they will start
to appreciate what Unions have done for the working people of this country.

True

Actually they may already be waking up.

i'm not gonna strike but i will call my senator to ask him to support unions and i will donate to unions/ wi dems/ progressive orgs

If people only realized the power and effect they'd have with a nation wide strike or shutdown, they'd do do it every other week!! How long would it take? A day or two? A week? An hour? Think about it! No teachers, no cops, no trash pickups, no road repairs, no truck deliveries, no nurses, no one to clean your buildings, no one to put out your fires, no one to answer your 911 calls, no waitresses, no health care workers, no trains, buses, or planes! Republicans don't believe in education so give this a try, shut down the schools and let the parents watch their brats at home for awhile! If you're not ready to strike or stand with middle class workers across America. union and non union alike, don't bitch when they come for your pay checks! No pain, no gain!

That would be amazing if we could organize one.

I share your outrage and your wish for radical action! I am a little hesitant to call on people to actually do this here in Wisconsin because the risk they would take is enormous and only they can make that decision for themselves. Our gov. scotty thinks he IS the reagan who fired all the striking air traffic controllers. And union people are saying he WILL fire everyone. I believe their assessment because I have a front row seat here. scotty is either so arrogant, cruel or delusional (or all three) that he will stop at nothing!

Thank you for your continued attention to this horrifying situation!

totally bitchin

I know this off topic but if there are two pundits that get on my last nerve it's Howard "any way the wind blows" Fineman and Lawrence "pompous"O'Donnell. I'm not saying Howard isn't right about this just that he's so tiresome. If I see one more segment about Charlie Sheen or Lawrence priding himself on getting Republican scum like that Fitzgerald and Ann Colter as guests I'll scream.

thank you for your wisdom!

hard to disagree whatever other good points i could make to the contrary !

its a bitch to have terrible grammar, isnt it?

soon brother
the recall of republicans will get legs from this last insidious move...

that's not libertarians-- that's assholes.
libertarians are about liberty, including yours even if they don't agree with you, these "leave MY country alone" people are just petty "conservative" (ideological) assholes.

They MUST follow through with the Recalls. Corporate Money might buy these
self-serving Republicans their office but THE PEOPLE will show them the door with
the power of their VOTES.
They've crossed a line they can't walk back from.

Hi again! Yes we must! Recalls and ethics charges all have the possibility of ending up in front of Wisconsin's Supreme Court. Because of this, today I took on the delicate task of emailing everyone I could on fb and internet to point out that we have another election here in less than one month! In this election we will have to vote in a Judge Kloppenberg who is a stickler for ethics, which has not been the case with some of our other sitting judges. If Kloppenberg is not elected, our conservative court will make moot all our efforts toward justice. I had the difficult task of thanking everyone who has been so active in protesting, while calling out all of those who failed to vote in Novemeber thereby creating something that never had to happen to us! (And believe me, if all these activivists had all voted in November, none of this would be happening right now!)

As politely as I could, I encouraged the November non-voters to campaign their hearts out for Kloppenberg, or at the very least VOTE THIS TIME! I did not speak like this or capitalize like this in my plea. Just using this space to vent a little frustration. Believe me I cannot afford to alienate one potential voter in our April 5th election! Thanks for "listening!"

aint that a bitch

.

i was just watching the story break on
The Last Word with Lawrence O'Donnell

there is an upside on the backside of this story:

the parliamentary procedure the republican senate used to separate out
the non-finance parts of the bill and move them to conference committee for
vote, does not need the quorum of a finance bill. so they voted and past
that part of the bill ending unions and collective bargaining
but
there is a parliamentary rule within the conference committee
there has to be a 24 hour notice on the vote
they did not give the notice

so
the democrats called the attorney general to look at the illegality of the vote
the contest by the democrats should hold up
and
the upshot of the upside is this:

the republicans will deeper and further nakedly reveal how opposed to
the middle class they are
and
how sinister and creepy they are in undermining the working class

a good look really...
.
.

Well according to Lawrence the Democrats have "lost". He said the health reform bill would never pass long before there was even a debate.

"how sinister and creepy"
That about says it all!

They are going to end up looking even dumber when this all washes out
and I can smell the recalls coming already once the press exposes them for
the idiots they are. They tried to skirt their own laws just to screw their people.

Enjoy it while you can

Yep. Same in California.

With a Democratic governor? How is that possible? :)

Republicans are begging for their own defeat in 2012, now that they have admitted to
union busting.......... on national TV no less.

I know, can you believe it?

What the far left on this board doesn't understand is Joe Average is not behind the unions. He sees unions employees making more and doing less. Then he sees them retiring with a lot more. You can show me all the push polls with leading questions you want on Wisconsin. In the big picture Joe Average isn't paranoid about the Koch Brothers. Joe Average doesn't see a capitalist bogeyman around every corner. Across the country Joe Average isn't pro union.

Dear Warren, I wish I were far better at the inticracies of the computer because I so wanted to copy you an article from Milwaukee Magazine of Tuesday 3/8/2011 by Bruce Murphy. Alas, I am not very talented in computerese! So I hope you will find a way to access this article.

Keep in mind that Milwaukee Magazine is not a left wing rag by a long shot. Also keep in mind that the author is not considered particularly liberal. In this article he does a very unique non-left, non-right assessment of Scott Walker's situation, which I hope you and others on this comment thread are able to access.

I am most interested in your and others' thoughts about this article if anyone will take the time to search it out.

Sincerely,
R1

lol... so you ARE nuts... you're writing a formal letter to an extremist right winger on a message board... lol