NH GOP Senator Says The Mentally Ill Are ‘Defective People’ That Should Be Shipped Off To Siberia

right on, brother (belying my age, but WTF!)

Please tell me a specific action I can take on this matter and I prommise I will follow up on it! Guidance please?!

sure.. call them, email them, go to www.aipac.org or com and tell them about this story.. let me know how it goes!

Thanks for this post! I was rather flippant in my two earlier posts and appreciate that you took the time to flesh out some important points. Most mentally ill persons do not kill anyone! Sometimes in these discussions people point out the worst case scenarios to make a point but this can also distort some related important issues.

A large number of people experience some form of mental illness in their lifetimes. Most are productive members of society. Some recuperate on their own and many others heal or at least improve with appropriate care. And sadly there are some with more extreme symptoms either unwilling or unable to receive the care they need. For these people there is often deep suffering for themselves, their families and sometimes their communities. Harty's brutal coldness smacks of sociopathy. There's another diagnosis for your list! Thanks again!

i totally agree, and in many of the cases of mentally ill people that arent quite productive members of society, a LITTLE bit of mental healthcare would go A LONG WAY in moving them into the productive member of society group, which despite what some may think, is where every human being truly would prefer being.

in the case of the Tuscan shooter, the school warned his parents of his mental instability and told them he couldnt return with out seeking psychological care first. All I can say is, as a parent, the only imaginable reason i can possibly think of for why they would NOT get him mental healthcare after that, is that they could not afford it.

Americas' refusal to acknowledge mental healthcare as being just as important as any other form of healthcare is one of its biggest problems, in my opinion. I think if we were to guarantee quality mental health care to all americans SO MANY of our other problems would be diminished, at least. The majority of those resulting in the saving of millions of dollars, im sure.

You forgot to include what is perhaps the most widespread of them all - depression.

Actually it was easy to miss because she called it Clinical Depression, and you might have been looking under "D" for it! In any event, her list is not exhaustive, but still made a good point. Time limits and demands being what they are at the moment (for me) I am not able to address this more fully, but would love fuller discourse on these matters! I'm glad you emphasized depression because it seems nearly epidemic. With Walker as governor here in Wisconsin and other states having elected similar people, I suspect that we may see even higher rates of depression! Thanks for underscoring its prevalance and importance!

Sociopaths often find themselves in positions of power. They don't see people as people. At best, a person only has a $ to a sociopath.

A lot of insurances don't cover Mental Health care. Those that do, many Mental Health care professionals refuse to take those insurances.

Sad and true. I wish I had more time right now, because the whole issue of who seeks and gains power is riddled with complexity. My own father who was a great activist, starting in the 50's before that was the popular thing, would never accept political office, though asked many times. Who can so serve without the ego and desire for power that then corrupts?

Of this I know a great deal! As a therapist who had a burgeoning practice before the continual economic decline bottoming out in 2008, I had refused to take insurance for almost 20 years. I worked very hard and offerred a sliding scale that went so low that I was able to provide service to the working poor and people on SSDI. I had a client who worked for a major local health care system and in order for him to use his coverage to pay for my services I was asked to fill out a stack of paperwork over an inch thick. In return they would agree to pay me $20 per hour, requiring him to cover a co-pay of $20 per hour! This this client was not merely one of the walking wounded! His situation was quite serious! Of course I refused to fill out the paperwork and simply charged this client a very low rate. (NB, details changed to sufficiently obscure the identity of the client referenced.)

I decided that my clients needed to pay at each session, as they would pay their hair stylist or manicurist. I then provided my clients with statements that documented what they had paid and included the information necessary for their insurance companies to reimburse them. Over time this became quite successful for many of them. In cases where insurance companies were not cooperative, I simply adjusted my rates.

In 2008 a majority of my clients experienced cataclysmic job losses. Some after long searches, found new jobs at much lower pay. Most got no insurance with these new jobs. Because I never courted people on the high end of the income scale (having never been there myself!) I was left in a state of near bankruptcy.

On a brighter note I was able to barely skirt bankruptcy. I have experienced extraordinary gifts from family, friends and complete strangers! I have provided gratis therapy to my most needy clients. Every time I thought my ship was sinking, something miraculous came through.

Mind you, I am not saying I shop other than at Aldi's and Value Village. I am not saying my socks don't have holes or near holes in them!

I have offered my couch and my basement to family members who are on the verge of not being able to make their rent as our Wisconsin Governor Walker and Republicans beat us into the gound. I have even offered to let soon-to be-squatters use my back yard to raise their tents if they are hardy enough to handle the conditions!

If this fascist takeover continues, I encourage all of you to reach out, accept inconvenience and reach beyond your comfort zone.

Sorry that I went on so long. I should be in bed by now! Nonetheless I thank Beck for triggering a small part of my story!

Namaste!

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Well said , and namaste to you !

gratitude to you, my firend! Now must retire or pay tomorrow!!

Excellent post killakali1! I voted you up for it.

and again Which Tea party ? the Glen Beck one? the RIno one? or the real one that just wanted to replace both sides and get back on track? Teh real Tea party was about real reforms and no more bad laws. Not this BS Beck and his Wreking crew push or the Rino's that want to hole there spots. All this hate and lines and no one seen to see a good idea was hijacked

So, let me see...that sounds like Harty thinks HE should be sent to Siberia. Why, that would be suicidal! Commit him!

Well, according to Harty...

If you removed the party designation people would just vote for the person at the top in alphabetical order. Few people bother to actually learn about the candidates.

OK, lets not extrapolate this to the rest of the RIPublican party. Why then do they allow him to run for re-election? Why do they not put someone up in the primary to replace him? Sen Byrd was older than dirt when he passed, but he was not making outrageous comments, nor did he he not apologize when he offended people. I think that with they way the RIPublicans are functioning as a party today that you CAN extrapolate this to the rest of the party, witness Wisconsin, Ohio, and Arizona for example.

i would like to agree with you, but have reservations. some 90 year olds have complete control of their faculties and would disagree with this sociopathic people-hater. what say you to this?

i agree thats why i say 1 90 y/o senile fool, not meaning all 90 y/os are.. i meant him specifically but i can see why i left it open to misunderstanding, sorry bout that

no worries mate! i fully understand how we all get pulled into the vortex we are trying to navigate! we can just thank v for pulling us back onto course. this is a gift we can all offer eachother during these challenging times...you are in my heart!

LOL

I'd help pay for that and I have no money !

Why 60? At that age and for many more years, most men and women are very active and still at their top.

Well I guess some of us who are angry about Harty may be getting a little strident or even reckless. I don't mean to be critical or a purist, but v here has caught the discussion moving into ageism rather than staying on the main point, which is actually about the cold-hearted words of one old man who seems to be without conscience. Rather than letting him give all aging people a bad reputation, we might conjecture that he is better grouped with people who place a much higher value on wealth than they do on humanity. I say, "good cath, V!"

I MEANT good catch! I do not wish to introduce the subject of cathetarization, here! Jeez!

I picked 60 as a random number for the most part. A lot of people are "encouraged" to retire from their jobs in their 50's. I know my dad was "encouraged" to be retired and couldn't find work no matter how pathetic the wage (including under minimum wage).

58 US Senators are 60 or over. 89 US Senators are 50 or over.

The rest of workers are often told at 50 that they are useless and worthless, why do US Senators get to be different. If these older US Senators are useless and worthless, then obviously they fall into the same category that this jerk Senator seems to believe the Mentally Ill are. Therefor, it only makes sense that we should exile him and anyone who feels the same to Siberia.

It is agest revenge for all the workers out there that were put out to pasture before they were ready. I lost a lot of talented co-workers because they were "encouraged" to retire. They earned "too much", despite their invaluable knowledge that only they had.

Please let me express my sympathy and understanding for your reaction! I know what you say is true! And I understand that your reaction comes from a very personal place. I did not intend to criticize you personally in my comments. As you consider the whole situation, separate from Harty, and considering you understand the unfairness of the ageist system overal, what do you thnk is the right way for all of us to respond? I ask this in sincerity and without judgment. Thank you for your comments!

The only acceptable way to respond is to call the Senator Harty's office and ask for his resignation.

Since it is the weekend I am just blowing off steam until I can call Monday morning.

the dumb voters of new hampshire did

lol.. voted up!

same here brother! voted up!

Remember "Weekend At Bernie's?" That's how.

I do not understand it either.

i think it's another symptom of the laziness of the majority of the electorate.(thinking when voting): Recognize the name of the candidate, been our legislator for a long time, must be doing a good job or he/she wouldn't keep getting elected, so I'll just vote for him/her. There, now I've done my patriotic duty - i voted (party line). I wonder if it's still happy hour at Joe's Tavern.

exactly.. its part of the problem that has lead us to this situation we are in today

You have just described the problem here in Maine as well, else Collins and Snowe would have been replaced long ago.