Community | March 14, 2011 | 45 comments

Nuclear Expert: Radiation Could Spread To US West Coast

source: http://www.infowars.com/nuclear-expert-radiation-could-spread-to-us-west-coast/

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Nuclear expert Joe Cirincione warns that radiation from Japan’s multiple potential nuclear meltdowns could spread to the US west coast and that the threat represents an “unprecedented crisis,” as another explosion rocked the Fukushima complex and officials admitted that nuclear fuel rods at reactor number two have been fully exposed.

“The worst case scenario is that the fuel rods fuse together, the temperatures get so hot that they melt together in a radioactive molten mass that bursts through the containment mechanisms and is exposed to the outside. So they spew radioactivity in the ground, into the air, into the water. Some of the radioactivity could carry in the atmosphere to the West Coast of the United States,” Cirincione told Fox News.
When host Chris Wallace questioned whether radioactivity could travel thousands of miles across the Pacific, Cirincione responded, “Oh, absolutely. Chernobyl, which happened about 25 years ago, the radioactivity spread around the entire northern hemisphere. It depends how many of these cores melt down and how successful they are on containing it once this disaster happens.”
“One reactor has had half the core exposed already,” explained Cirincione. “This is the one they’re flooding with sea water in a desperate effort to prevent it from a complete meltdown. They lost control of a second reactor next to it, a partial meltdown, and there is actually a third reactor at a related site 20-kilometers away they have also lost control over. We have never had a situation like this before.”
Fears that the radiation could reach the United States have prompted the California Department of Public Health to issue a statement saying they are assessing the situation and that they have radioactivity monitoring systems in place for air, water and the food supply.
As the Washington Blog has documented, pollution from Chinese coal factories routinely hits California.
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45 comments // Nuclear Expert: Radiation Could Spread To US West Coast // Video

  • mitekillem
  • manny0409
    • +2
      manny0409  

    • The radiation exposure right now is not strong enough, not nearly as strong as Chernobyl or anything of the sort so we wont have to fear much. If it keeps going the way it is with new explosions at different nuclear reactors happening because the cooling systems keep failing, then it might be a different story...

    • 1 year ago
  • hbmcneary
  • simplecj
    • +2
      simplecj  
    • Image

    • Has there been a meltdown?

      The term "meltdown" is used in a variety of ways. As noted above, the reported detection of radioactive caesium and iodine may indicate that some of the metal casing enclosing the reactors' uranium fuel has melted (a "fuel-rod meltdown"). However, there is as yet no indication that the uranium fuel itself has melted. Still less is there any indication of a "China Syndrome" where the fuel melts, gathers below the reactor and resumes a chain reaction, that enables it to melt everything in its way, and bore a path deep into the earth. If there were to be a serious meltdown, the Japanese reactor is supposed to be able to handle it, preventing the China Syndrome from taking place. Reports suggest that underneath the reactor, within the outer containment vessel, there is a concrete basin designed to capture and disperse any molten fuel.

      Could there be a Chernobyl-like disaster?

      Experts say this is highly unlikely. The chain reaction at all Fukushima reactors has ceased. The explosions that have occurred have taken place outside the steel and concrete containment vessels enclosing the reactors, which apparently remain solid. At Chernobyl an explosion exposed the core of the reactor to the air, and a fire raged for days sending its contents in a plume up into the atmosphere. At Fukushima the explosions - caused by hydrogen and oxygen vented from the reactor - have damaged only the roof and walls erected around the containment vessels.

      Could there be a nuclear explosion?

      No. A nuclear bomb and a nuclear reactor are different things.

      http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-12732015

    • 1 year ago
  • ArchDruid
  • im1mjrpain
    • 0
      im1mjrpain  
    • ArchDruid:

      Sounds like a straw man argument to me. What's any of that hear say BS have to do with the article. Can you dispute what the article says in facts.... oh wait you can't or we wouldn't be talking about this BS. Nice try though.

    • 1 year ago
  • Vierotchka
    • +1
      Vierotchka  
    • ArchDruid:

      Nonsense - Alex Jones was born on February 11, 1974 in Dallas, Texas, and grew up in the suburb of Rockwall. His father is a dentist. He graduated from Anderson High School in northwest Austin, Texas in 1993. After high school he briefly attended Austin Community College.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_Jones_%28radio_host%29

      James Warren "Jim" Jones (May 13, 1931 – November 18, 1978) was the founder and leader of the Peoples Temple, which is best known for the November 18, 1978 mass murder of more than 900 Temple members in Jonestown, Guyana along with the killings of five other people at a nearby airstrip.

      Jones was born in Indiana and started the Temple in that state in the 1950s. Jones and the Temple later moved to California, and both gained notoriety with the move of the Temple's headquarters to San Francisco in the mid-1970s.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Jones

    • 1 year ago
  • simplecj
    • +2
      simplecj  

    • Fox News REALLY??? .... Worst-Case scenario, Fox loves this shit...

      It would take a large explosion AFTER containment breach to throw any radioactive materials into the atmosphere. Don't buy the hype man, that's a theoretical situation that sounds unlikely even in the even of an actual full scale meltdown. It will be bad for Japan, yes, but don't go panicking about nuclear fallout here in the US. Most likely it will only melt thru the bottom of the containment vessel and irradiate the ground and surrounding area, not the atmosphere. This isn't Chernobyl....

      Can't wait to hear what kind of bat-shit crazy things Beck has to say about this....

    • 1 year ago
  • im1mjrpain
  • simplecj
    • +1
      simplecj  
    • im1mjrpain:

      Oh God please... you follow up Fox with "Info Wars"??

      More scare mongering... these Japanese reactors were built to contain any meltdown. Only real danger is in the immediate perimeter (apparently 12 miles). I'm not saying this isn't a bad situation, I'm just saying people in the US shouldn't feed into the assumption that radioactive fallout is going to rain down and kill everyone on the West coast, that just isn't the reality of the situation. (see my post above)

    • 1 year ago
  • ArchDruid
  • Vierotchka
    • +2
      Vierotchka  
    • ArchDruid:

      Current uses Google AdSense - AdSense picks up on key words and automatically places text-based Google AdWords ads that are relevant to site content pages. Thus, if the submission is about and/or has a link to a particular site (such as Prison Planet, Scientology, the Phelps family, NASA or whatever) and this site has an AdSense account with Google, one of their ads will automatically be placed on the page by Google. These clients don't choose on which sites and pages their ads will be placed. Both Infowars and Prison Planet are Alex Jones sites, so they probably have a common account with Google's AdSense.

    • 1 year ago
  • ArchDruid
  • Dagum
    • 0
      Dagum  
    • ArchDruid:

      PP doesn't write articles. It's a news aggregation site. A news aggregation site is a site that takes news articles that others wrote on a particularly subject from all corners of the internet and aggregates them in one spot. Right now they are aggregating articles on the disaster in japan.

    • 1 year ago
  • ArchDruid
  • ArchDruid
  • Dagum
    • 0
      Dagum  
    • ArchDruid:

      well it's only accurate as the sites and blogs it aggregates from, which can varry from source such as the Wall street Journal, to Reuters, to Mother Jones, all sources to article that you would find on current.com.

      That's why I would always click the link of things on top of things on PP or IW for source of aggregation.

    • 1 year ago
  • Dagum
    • 0
      Dagum  
    • ArchDruid:

      He "edits" in that he selects what stories to show from what was aggregated. But there is no writing involved. On a busy news day Maybe 1 out of 10 items listed there will be an abstract of a bunch of articles listed under Paul Watson. Every sentence/paragraph though is hype linked to the articles aggregated from.

      But there are no PP reporters and they don't actually write articles.

    • 1 year ago
  • ArchDruid
  • Dagum
  • im1mjrpain
    • 0
      im1mjrpain  

    • According to the Japanese government, the explosion at the Fukushima Daiichi No. 3 reactor is not much to worry about. Officials said the inner reactor container remained intact, but this information should be taken with a large grain of salt – the Japanese government has a fairly extensive track record of covering up its nuclear accidents and mishaps.

    • 1 year ago
  • ejasun
  • ejasun
  • Eddie_Miller
  • JustZ
    • +1
      JustZ  

    • First; Nuke power is insane. INSANE. When the very thing you want to produce energy is deadly beyond description, why use it? When sun, wind, water and fire are all very capable of producing very clean energy with zero toxic waste, why use it? Same old reason why- because it nets boat loads of money for the top 1% who have no soul.

      Second, if anyone wants to be taken seriously as "an expert" on anything (other than lying) why would they go on FIXED news in the first place? This man clearly lacks integrity (and a good agent to get him on a real news program).

    • 1 year ago
  • SoCalFramer
    • 0
      SoCalFramer  

    • Obamama, o.k. dude you carried California are you going to abandon it? I guess it is time to evacuate the state dude. Oh wait I hear jets overhead, it is just the rich going on vacation while the poor get a wonderful glow.

    • 1 year ago
  • JustZ
  • FlexSF
    • +2
      FlexSF  

    • Assuming everyone agrees that the Republican party would like real, physical harm to be inflicted on their political opponents, and the fact that Fox News is the controlling arm of the Republican party, this video seems to imply that Republicans would be more than happy for the West Coast to be radiated.

      With fellow AmeriKans like this, why do we continue to elect them?

    • 1 year ago
  • insaintity
  • im1mjrpain
  • CJH49
    • +2
      CJH49  

    • So much of the problem with radiation exposure is accumulative. If we are exposed to an x-ray for a split second it has a minimal effect on us, but if we are frequently exposed or exposed for an extended period of time that is when the greatest potential danger exists.

      I remember Chernobyl and the talk about a radioactive cloud from this disaster hovering over the earth and circling for hundreds of years to come.

      So...are we still insisting on nuclear power as the solution to America's energy crisis? I learned about this stuff in 7th grad in CA, from my science teacher, he warned of this back then, and that was almost 40 years ago. It's not like we didn't know of the potential for a melt down.

      We not only have to worry about earthquakes, we have to worry about the aging facilities we already have, and the threat of terrorists, we have to worry about spent material and storage of this radioactive material. There's so much to be concerned about, and I think this tragedy enhances the concern. I hope people are considering all the possible dangerous scenarios that could occur and how serious this could be if we pushed a head with this technology.

      CNN is now showing us the wind current across the Pacific, It doesn't look good for California, Oregon, Alaska.

      Any thoughts on this?

    • 1 year ago
  • im1mjrpain
    • 0
      im1mjrpain  
    • CJH49:

      Yes I have a thought or better yet some good advice for people on the West Coast go out ASAP and get Potassium Iodine (KI) for yourself and your family!

      The effectiveness of KI as a specific blocker of thyroid radioiodine uptake is well established. When administered in the recommended dose, KI is effective in reducing the risk of thyroid cancer in individuals or populations at risk for inhalation or ingestion of radioiodines. KI floods the thyroid with non-radioactive iodine and prevents the uptake of the radioactive molecules, which are subsequently excreted in the urine.

    • 1 year ago
  • ArchDruid
  • im1mjrpain
    • +2
      im1mjrpain  
    • ArchDruid:

      Yes, but also Chernobyl was only one plant. In Japan 3 of them have exploded as of this moment. Also, in an endless escalation of bad news comes from Seattle Times: “Pentagon officials reported Sunday that helicopters flying 60 miles from the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant picked up small amounts of radioactive particulates — still being analyzed, but presumed to include cesium-137 and iodine-121 — suggesting widening environmental contamination

    • 1 year ago
  • ArchDruid
  • im1mjrpain
  • im1mjrpain
    • 0
      im1mjrpain  

    • All the evidence clearly indicates that the Japanese government is covering up the true scale of the disaster in an effort to prevent hysteria from engulfing a population already devastated by last week’s earthquake and tsunami, not to mention ongoing powerful aftershocks that continue to spread terror.

    • 1 year ago
  • ArchDruid
  • MDBard
    • +1
      MDBard  
    • im1mjrpain:

      This is Japan your talking about. They don't cover things up like we do in the States except for UFO's which all governments cover up because they where told to.

    • 1 year ago
  • Eddie_Miller
  • im1mjrpain
    • 0
      im1mjrpain  
    • ArchDruid:

      March 14, 2011 |
      Fukushima Daiichi Unit 2 fuel core meltdown reported underway
      7:39AM EST March 14---We have received a report from our Japanese colleagues that Tokyo Power Electric Company is reporting that Fukushima Daiichi Unit 2 has lost all cooling water and the fuel core is completed exposed. The fuel rods are very likely melting. There is no word on efforts to flood Unit 2 to avert an uncontrolled meltdown.

      Two hydrogen gas explosions have already rocked Unit 1 and Unit 3. A third explosion is now likely in Unit 2 potentially releasing significant amounts of radiation into the atmosphere if the vessel fails followed by containment failure as the result of a possible full scale meltdown.

    • 1 year ago
  • im1mjrpain
    • 0
      im1mjrpain  
    • MDBard:

      All governments lie... where do you live Disneyland? the Japanese government has a fairly extensive track record of covering up its nuclear accidents and mishaps.
      In 2003 alone, Tokyo Electric Power Company (TEPCO) shut down 17 plants because the company had falsified records pertaining to a series accidents that pale in comparison to what is now unfolding at Fukushima and other nuclear power plants in the country.
      TEPCO is the largest electric utility in Japan and the 4th largest electric utility in the world.
      This is why is good to know your history.... it's repeating itself and you don't even know it.

    • 1 year ago
  • im1mjrpain
  • Eddie_Miller
  • im1mjrpain
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