Operation Odyssey Dawn: U.S. launches military strikes in Libya

Even Michael Moore is against American action in Libya.

Like I said in the other thread, I still have mixed feelings about this.

On the one hand, this is clearly another bullshit war that has almost everything to do with weird political shit behind the scenes and economic interests.

On the other hand, as long we're only providing air superiority, I don't think it's that much of an expense to help the rebels win this war.

My goodness....another war. These flowery names for war does not make it any more palpable. Operation Odyssey Dawn...WTF?! You've got to be kidding! This naming of the wars started with Bush Sr. I guess that tells you who's been in charge of the pentagon all these years. The neo-cons. This is what the U.S. is good at and what we have money for. We don't export products, we export war. But to think that Obama is calling the shots here, is really not the whole story. The Pentagon and the MIC tells presidents when we are going to war. Obama has already been told who runs the show on foreign policy and it ain't him. Corporations and the MIC run this country. I'm not condoning Obama's rubber stamping of the move but that's where it's at.

ya we should have just let Gadhafi keep killing the Libian people indiscriminantly....No I think its about time the West started helping the people who express their disire for freedom from whatever dictator. and before some one says well what about non oil producing countries? yes those too all countries where a leader not elected by the people and is using force to quell the people voice then we must bring both political and if nessissary military force to the aid of these people. Freedom is not just for Americans.

A rerun of a simple play in five acts, oft repeated with minor variations:

1. Western taxpayers underwrite a lot of military spending and kill a lot of men, women, and little kids
2. Gadhafi goes and the rebels take over
3. Western corporate interests pour into Libya and co-opt local control (Democracy, American-style)
4. Libyan oil deals favorable to Western corporate interests blossom, allowing accelerated transfer of wealth to the elite resulting from increased exploitation of Libyan resources
5. An indigeneous Libyan elite is created that commerces with their colleagues in the West, appoints leaders favorable to the interests of the moneyed elite, and facilitates degredation of the less economically advantaged into slaves.

Warren Buffet's boys are leading the pack on this one: on Feb 28, a few weeks after Libyan unrest started, this heads-up pandering to the Petrodollars sector of the Capitalist Corporatocracy was published by his crew:

http://current.com/http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20110228005814/en/Resea....

I forgot Alfred NOBEL WAS CALLED DOCTOR DEATH, largest Arms dealer in Europe, Arms manufacturer, yes he produced weapons of Mass destruction,
DR: DEATH, at his death bed he forgave himself and there came the NOBEL PRIZES.
As for OBAMA, Drone MASTER KILLER,
keeping up the Nobel, Dr. Death tradition.
Gun control at home but sell heavy weapons to madman Gaddafi,
Keep your guns America those drones will one day for YOU!

MILITARY TITLES, Shock and AWE, desert storm; Now it is Odyssey Dawn,
recycled HOMER. And of coarse years before we called it war, going to war, but now it is "IN THE THEATER" where everyone is an actor, death is part of the act. Does this take the sting out of WAR, is this soft power.
Products from China were labeled, made in people republic, or communist china, but now all are called just china, did we take away the communist name which they are so you would buy more products from Communist China, Wal-Mart should be called Communist China depot, or, outlet.
So if we call war theater, sounds ok,
or if we drop the communist, china sounds ok,
soft power or perception management.
the human rights failures tortures etc, Odyssey Dawn ,
failure become whispers and disappears in the dark.
BACK TO THE THEATER, where nothing is real!
Often wondered who creates these Shock at DAWN! Or Odyssey storm.
The names of the air fighters Typhoons, Tornadoes, etc.
who does the naming?

You people who think that this is a humanitarian issue need to pull your head out of the clouds and stop drinking the kool aid.

Libya, along with Iran, Pakistan, Syria and Lebannon have been on the US/Zionist hitlists since 9/11, 10 years before the Libyan uprising.

Actually, this attack has nothing to do with Obama, he just happened to be president while all of this going on.

Keep in mind, we are using unmanded drone to attack "terrorists" in Pakistan, but all we are doing is murdering families.

Pretty soon, in the US media is going to be talking about "collateral damage" from air strikes killing civilian targets, and then what will you kool aid drinkers have to say about the humanitarian efforts?

It is misguided at best and callous at worst to make comparisons between this and Iraq. While I knew somebody was going to I was seriously hoping they would choose not to decry what is possibly the first time there has been fully legitimate international military action. The people of Libya will benefit directly, immediately, and tangibly from this intervention, and it sets not a dangerous, but a hopeful precedent. This sort of action is likely the only remaining legitimate use of national military force (along with the exception of saving Toronto from winter), and it would be criminal not to intervene. The paralells with Iraq end at the similarity of the presidential speeches. The difference even between these was that similar speeches were echoing around the world yesterday as every participant nation gravely made the decision to work for a greater good. The list of nations including even Arab allies only further proves why this should be historically seen in a positive light. The second important difference is this action is in no way, shape or form unilateral, in fact it is the definition of legitimate multilateralism being effectively put to use. To say this is the work of war mongers acting similarly to Iraq is to do great disservice to the people of both Libya and Iraq.

PEOPLE DIEING IN BAHRAIN OBAMA SAYS NOTHING:
PEOPLE DIEING IN JAPAN OBAMA IN BRAZIL:
PEOPLE DIEING IN YEMEN, OBAMA TALKS OF WORLD CUP SOCCER AND OLYMPICS IN BRAZIL: WHAT THE F-CK IS GOING ON!

Presidents have done many things that are unconstitutional to meet the objectives of our nation. Even Thomas Jefferson who was thought to be an honest yeoman farmer broke the rules buy purchasing the Louisiana Purchase; however, were not doing anything that is unconstitutional nor are we trying to profit of these actions. This is NOT a war between the United States and Libya. This is a revolutionary war for freedom between the Libyan people and Gadhafi's regime. What we and the United Nations is doing is perfectly Legal because we are protecting innocent civilians from a dictatorship. Whether Gadhafi goes down is up to the people of Libya... not any other country. Were just making sure that their revolutionary war is fair game. I like the picture though it's very sarcastic.

I'd be for this if we can just bomb them a bit and then the Rebels get the upper hand again and then we leave. I wish it could be that clean cut. I wish it could be that guaranteed. Buuuuuuuuut no. I really hope in a few weeks/months I'm not going to hear Obama say "I think we need some troops on the ground, you know, just for a bit" or some iteration of that.

Start planning the protests now. Might as well.

Countries enforcing Resolution 1973
France
United Kingdom
United States
Canada
Belgium
Denmark
Greece
Italy
Netherlands
Norway
Qatar
Spain
UAE

48 civilians killed, 150 wounded (government claim)[11]
4 tanks destroyed (French claim)[12][13]

This isn't a war (yet), this is enforcement of a UN resolution. I also find NO CONTRADICTION in a Nobel Peace Prize winner coming to the rescue of people being slaughtered by their own despotic government by RENDERING THAT GOVERNMENT UNABLE TO WAGE WAR against them.

There is outright slaughter in Sudan and Ivory Coast. Should we be there as well? Should we be the world's humanitarian police presence? Who should pay for it?

Standing by while civilians get slaughtered by Mr. "no mercy" was inhuman . We should get out of the illegal wars , but this , this , is humanitarian ... Not all violence is evil .

Should have done this WEEKS AGO

look. i voted for obama because he was the alternative to 100 years of war in iraq. not because he was a good candidate, but because he was the better candidate. i'm not apologizing for the DOD or the state department or the military industrial complex. i hate those bastards. they're destroying our nation. but if we can help some people who want to get out from under the dick of a fucking dictator, so be it. and if we can do it without putting troops on the ground? hale-fucking-leujah. but please , please dont bitch and moan unless you attended protests against iraq and afghanistan. i did. dont come at me like you know me because you obviously fucking dont. read my blurb on my profile. if you dont have the time to do that then kindly shut the fuck up. i dont like war. in fact i hate it. in this case i think our actions are justified, because those poor bastards who are trying free themselves are being fucking massacred. i would think that you might be sympathetic, but i apparently held too high of an opinion of you. there has been no mention of an invasion. we are intervening, but this is an action sanctioned by the UN.

This was on Drudge tonight:

"MARCH 19, 2011
OBAMA: 'Today we are part of a broad coalition. We are answering the calls of a threatened people. And we are acting in the interests of the United States and the world'...

MARCH 19, 2003
BUSH: 'American and coalition forces are in the early stages of military operations to disarm Iraq, to free its people and to defend the world from grave danger'... "

Gosh, they could be brothers.
Interesting to read the comments here. Did Congress authorize the use of force here as they did in Iraq? I hope we don't get too involved in this one.