Absolutely, This is what religion has become an excuse to indulge and sin because Jesus died for us to sin right? so that makes it ok, because we BeLIEve!

actually, christians are usually not very informed about their porported view of reality...if you take the idol scriptures and christian history, the other unforgivable sin would be suicide.

"have the balls"? please, if we go around saying that this mystical "church" thing that you believe, whatever that's supposed to be ( im guessing your talking about the idea of the religion itself), is perfect and all its flaws are do not to the idea but to the other ideas that mix in with its implementation than we might as well become communists. The Christian organisations are not perfect and niether are the boy scout organizations. If "this dude would be leading a Boy scout troop somewhere" the boy scout organization would be to blame, just as the ignorance and false trust of the christian organizations are responsible for this. This is clearly a "Church" pedophile issue, im not sure how you missed that...it must have been the overwhelming glare of your desire to have people agree with your believes in the essential makeup of reality.

I know, right?

Know what you mean.

ummmm... nice context.
what pelosi was hoping for was that people would understand that she doesn't know the future, and doing something is better than sitting in your ass getting paid to not make things better. While Republitards were wildly screaming that the bill might be the anti-christ in disguise(since they hadn't had a chance to pay someone else to read it)...she was trying (though should have known she would fail) to proove the point that any bullshit is possible and the people were completely free to change the bill in the future if something was implementationally wrong with it... so the best thing was to pass it, and not torture the american people longer. What was in the bill was clearly in black and white...none of it was in any code that the republican mucher representatives wouldn't understand: however, they kept on making shit up to keep their greedy power.

sarcastic p.s. - its a good thing you quoted her directly instead of ignorantly butchering her comment as foxites do.

It had nothing to do with divining the future and everything to do with knowing the present--as in the specifics of the bill. The version voted on was not presented to Congress in time for them to read the whole thing. You do realize that a Health Insurance and Big Pharma Bailout bill got passed, not a health care bill? What an asinine and uninspiring thing for her to say. Painting me with the FOX brush reveals a preference for character assassination as opposed to debate. By the way, I support single payer.

Even If all that you responded is true...what i said also remains true. your responce only shows your opinion... if congress people were too slow to read the black and white print, then they shouldn't have voted on it at all, yet many of them did. so i guess in your imagination all of them AND pelosi didn't read it. You DONT vote a bill down because you didn't read it...that's retarded.

They shouldn't have held the vote without reading it. You don't vote up a bill when you haven't read it. That is majorly irresponsible and flies in the face of representative govt.

It's not my imagination. The bill was over 2000 pages. You can look up when it was submitted for a vote, when the vote was held, and then do the math.

"retarded" in the context that you use it is inappropriate.

who didn't read it but voted it up anyways... that's pretty stupid... like going to war based on lies. If the Democrats trusted the crafters of the bill that's also pretty stupid (As some D's trusted Bush). If you don't read a bill you don't vote on it at all. voting something down because you were too slow to read it is retarded. The reason republicans don't trust government is because they suck at it. Again, Congress people have aids. 2,000 pages is nothing when you spread it around with the inteligent competant aids that you are surrounded by...I guess Republican's don't have much of those.

"inappropriate" in the context that you use it is retarded.

As someone raising a mentally handicapped niece I take issue with your frivolous use of the term "retarded." Whatever excuse you have for elected reps not reading bills before they enact them, fine. Clearly it's a problem in representative govt's to have such willfully uninformed representatives.

I have plenty of good religious friends. This is just an example of pure crazy. The fact that he's religious is just the awful topping. This kind of crazy doesn't need religion to be blamed for his actions. This guy owns this level of depravity completely.

This IS really disturbing. NOT "crazy" religious freaks, It's CRAZY HOMOSEXUAL FREAKS. Are ALL gay people freaks - NO. I think the majority are fine people as is the majority of hetero people. But when you have a few bad people that are part of the "gay community" prey on others like this, you don't call them on it. Let's blame it on religion. The only reason this story is here is because it's a pastor. And it's EASIER for him to blame it on some crazy RELIGIOUS reasoning instead of owning up to it as, just wanting to get some gay sex.

trying to get attentipon or just a jerk?

There not allowed to masturbate...

The only ones that make the news are the ones that screw up horribly , back in the day they would catch them cheating on their wives with other women or hookers like jimmy swaggart now the only ones that make the news are ones with any remote connection to homosexuality if you hear a half dozen stories about religious perverts and none about anything else that is going to leave the impression that all ministers are evil predators.

It has to do with Sin. Christianity teaches that your natural urges and attractions are evil. Supression of these urges is considered chaste and pure. Suppress them long enough and children become easy prey.

yeah any hardcore belief can.. its especially sad when one who is in a position to lead and help abuses it so

Dude....really?

idiot...

:|

your funny

ya know, i think you're right. NO ONE was having gay sex before Y2K...

Oh this is End Time? Shit I'm early. I'm going out for ice cream, I'll be back later.

uh oh.. then i was umm.. dancing

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maybe organized religion is a trick of satan and prayer is a tool of his.. i mean say there is a god, who is all perfect all seeing and gave us the gift of free will.. so like, he couldnt look in on us anymore, otherwise in his all knowingness he would know our future, which would take away free will and make it destiny.. so maybe the devil, in a move to lessen god decides hey i will trick these humans into trying to reach god, trying to communicate with him and such, and once they succeed, boom god has become fallible, or at least a liar, in either case god is therefore diminished, which the devil would totally dig..

all the hate, wars, and lies perpetrated in the name of religion would be just like a side benefit to the rascally devil

Maybe god is actually the evil one and the light bringer will show you the truth. Luci probably drives a pimped out spaceship. I'm just sayin' If you believe anything why not this version.

i would like to think if there were ultimate beings, they would be above 'morality' or at the least have a moral code that was completely alien to ours. we only have one to maintain a so called civilized society, but its pretty freakin arbitrary.

yeah totaly.the fifth horseman of the apacolypse was the gay cowboy.suuure

I feel sorry for people like you :/

It would be an Act of God since God has complete control of Satan. however I don't believe in the christian view of reality...its completely baseless, illogical, and destructive. It's_Batman_Durr has a good hypothesis, check it out.

Not really. That sort of talk is exactly the sort of things that the bad fundies spew- hatred, generalizations, tarring things with the same brush...

The world is a big place, there are bad people and there are good people. Churches are just another part of people's culture and their community support systems. I'm not religious, but I wouldn't want to take that away from those who are or just denigrate it unreasonably. By doing that you make yourself as bad as the bigoted religious people you dislike.

Paedophiles tend to gravitate towards positions where they have authority over children. That's all this is. They can be anyone- pop musicians, sporting stars, teachers, guardians, police, doctors, priests, scout masters, life guards, politicians... Anyone.

I agree with that. Religion is for the weak minded.

lol

OMG, no! They might be dancing!

This sounds Familiar. Kinda like GW saying we must be willing to give up some freedoms for protection. Charlie would be Great Help, but hasn't he Kicked the Bucket???

Yes Charlie kicked the bucket awhile ago...maybe it's time for someone else to raise the vigilante banner. The judicial system is a joke.

His name is Liam Neeson.

I Agree.... Maybe BKsaysAction has the right idea?

hence the fact that this guy was just an evil piece of shit manipulating young boys to get his perverted desires fulfilled.

you didn't get the memo?
irony is their middle name. also, the H in Jesus H. Christ stands for hypocrisy.

the book of laws that says this is illegal?
or the book he used to lie and convince these kids of his virtuous actions?

i say throw the bricks, or rabid raccoons at him-- while he's in a box.

It has long been know that if Depo-Provera is administered to men (chemical castration) convicted of sex-crimes , recidivism rates fall to less than 5%.

Currently in most jurisdictions it is considered cruel and unusual punishment to mandate it, so it is only an option (though most are never even told about it). As a result, most don't opt for it.

combined with physical castration would improve the percentage.

you are a very silly man.

No, you just stumbled upon a ring of people that is smart enough to realize when someone is trying to link two unrelated things together for the sole purpose of sensationalism.

Move along now........

idiot.

and also a reject!

Really right now? There is just so much ignorance in your words its excruciating. I haven't a clue as to what your problem is but really dude seek help. Your have absolutely no empathy and your every word is laced with malice and misunderstanding. Seriously I think you have some stuff you really need to deal with, a good professional can really help you deal with whatever it is that is creating all this hate in your life. You know your bible says in Matthew 22
"37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
38 This is the first and great commandment.
39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself.
40 On these two COMMANDMENTS hang all the law and the prophets."
All commandments hang on love, I ask you where is the love? I don't see it, in your words, in the way your treat someone else so flippantly I do not see the love. Christian means to be like Christ, can you really say that Christ would say anything to one of his children that was not in love?

I don't see any outcry of this man's actions from the gay community. And the comments on this post are along more along the lines of "gottcha" to the church. As if the gays infiltrated the church and initiated some form payback by raping young boys. Where is the condemnation? Nowhere. The gay pedophiles on current are cheerleading .

You don't see the outcry, all the comments have mocked ridiculed or condemned this man, both for his actions and for his hypocrisy. If you want condemnation I can give it, this man is sick vile and disgusting, there is little question about that, I am fairly sure everyone here is in the same place. To be honest in my opinion he should be publicly executed, for taking advantage of young boys who are in such a place of pain and confusion. No one in the gay community will support him for what he did, but I can tell you many in the gay community would love to rip him limb from limb. That still does not justify your hate.

shhhhhh the grown ups are talking

really? i thought we were still on 4,895... i have to keep up!