Brother’s Koch: True American Victims

Notice it's all paper and plastic?
They make their fortune turning trees into toilet paper!

Dang! There goes my Brawny. But it will be like spitting on Koch Industries every time I bypass Brawny in the future.

hmmm... it's a pretty safe bet they are against the cultivation of industrial hemp.

thanks for the list ;)

Where do I buy it???? :-)

nope, you're way right! but, they have created this monster of marketing being prerequisite for entering the game. if the candidate isn't competitievly funded, they're not going to become an office holder. therefore, they're all lining up for enough money just to get elected.

More like keeping up the appearance that democrats are actually doing something for the people. They love all politicians, except maybe Kucinich and a few others.

too much is never enough

ROFL! Love it!

They sure try and they have had success. Quotes from some articles.

"Koch contributed $800,000 to the Bush election campaign and other Republican candidates."

and their donations paid off......after Bush took office.

"Koch has had plenty of run-ins with government regulators and other legal problems in recent years. Through it all, the company has shown a remarkable knack for getting criminal charges dropped and huge potential penalties knocked down.

In late 2000—as the Clinton Administration was preparing to leave office—Koch was hit with a 97-count indictment for covering up the discharge of more than 15 times the legal limit of benzene, a carcinogen, from a refinery in Corpus Christi, Texas.

The company faced penalties of more than $350 million. Four Koch employees were also charged individually and faced up to 35 years in prison.

Three months after the Bush administration took office—and just before the lawsuit went to trial—the Justice Department abruptly settled the case. Koch agreed to pay $20 million and plead guilty to a single count of concealment of information. In return, the Justice Department dropped all criminal charges against Koch and the four employees.

In another case, Koch was sued by the government in 1995 and 1997 over a reported 300 oil spills at pipelines owned and operated by the company. Those lawsuits sought from $71 million to $214 million in penalties for the spills, which dumped an estimated three million gallons of oil into lakes and streams in six states.

On January 13, 2000, the government settled that case for $35 million in fines.

The Kochs were also sued by their own brother several years ago in a case where the company was accused of stealing millions of barrels of oil from federal and Native American lands."

Thanks for providing the evidence to support my point..Your documentation is greatly appreciated...

A very astute assessment. You have captured the essence of the situation.

Maybe we could spray them with formaldehyde? They produce tons of it and the EPA wants to label it as a carcinogen. That would cut into the 100 Billion they make per year from their various companies.

I've got my can of Raid all ready for the koch[roaches] :-)!!

Maybe? But do they own enough to make us suffer anyway? How many politicians do they own?

You're right, not YET but they sure are trying.

A whole bunch!
They put 800K just into getting Bush elected in 2000.
I have no idea who else they funded back then and in 2004 but in 2010 they funded a LOT of campaigns. Joe Miller....Alaska...he got 500K directly from their Tea Party Express astro-turf group.... but he lost to Lisa Murkowski.
That should give you some idea of how much they spent on just ONE race and that didn't include the attack ads they probably paid for.
I think Sharon Angle got well over 1 Million but they wanted to beat Harry Reid at all costs.

Just following who Palin endorsed showed who got big bucks from their Tea Party Express group and then there's Freedom Works, Americans for Prosperity and a bunch more. There's literally dozens of these groups and since the Citizens United decision we won't ever know who got what and which legislators been bought by them.
It's probably safe to say they helped well over 100 people just in Congress.
Then add the GOP governors. It's pretty spooky when you think about how 2 billionaires can buy so much influence.

Aye.

well said... good to see you here.

i'll be darned
the link between
homo neanderthalensis
and
homo sapien...

Stoneyroad, is that the theme to the Godfather I here in the background?

More like Domestic terrorist!

I'm thinking Hitler youth.

That's not the half of it. This is a snippet from Jane Mayers New Yorker article about the Koch's. These guys are really radical. We think the Gov's of some states are getting to crazy.....lol
It's just a hint of what the Koch's want.
This is regarding the election in - 1980 - when David Koch ran on the Libertarian ticket for VP.
Notice the "tea party" term...from 1980 no less. Now you all know where that whole tea party thing came from.
Yep and they duped a whole lot of people into thinking it was some "grass roots" people's
movement.

"Ed Clark told The Nation that libertarians were getting ready to stage “a very big tea party,” because people were “sick to death” of taxes. The Libertarian Party platform called for the abolition of the F.B.I. and the C.I.A., as well as of federal regulatory agencies, such as the Securities and Exchange Commission and the Department of Energy.

The Party wanted to end Social Security, minimum-wage laws, gun control, and all personal and corporate income taxes; it proposed the legalization of prostitution, recreational drugs, and suicide. Government should be reduced to only one function: the protection of individual rights. William F. Buckley, Jr., a more traditional conservative, called the movement “Anarcho-Totalitarianism.”

That November, the Libertarian ticket received only one per cent of the vote. The brothers realized that their brand of politics didn’t sell at the ballot box. Charles Koch became openly scornful of conventional politics."

NOW their money buys what they want.

Don't depend on a few articles before you decide it's just conspiracy theory BS.
Do your own research. It's all out there. Facts don't lie. FEC records don't lie.
Articles about their no-so-secret retreats where a few of our SCOTUS attended don't lie.

I don't know about you but the fact that Justices on our Supreme Court attend private Koch brothers meetings and then rule on things like Citizen United just don't sit well with me and a lot of others.

v, ol' son, all they really want is freedom for everyone and everyone to follow the efficiency of Their "Scientific System."

makes me think of Scientology.

Ha!
Sad but soooo true!

Very clever!

Once again you are absolutely correct, good to see you again!+^

LOLS when in doubt, pull the race card..... Disregard the previous post, please....

Please, don't be so bashful, my dear. Tell us what you really think.

Absolutely.

True +^d!

I totally agree. The Republican's are racists. Their idea is that black people are supposed to "Serve THE President" NOT "Serve AS President"!

To be honest, I don't believe this has anything to do with Obama's color. The only color these fools care about is green.

What you are witnessing is the culmination of a 30 year corporate push to strip the US Government of it's regulatory strength. It started during the Reagan Administration and was fostered along by the Administrations of Bush Senior and his idiot son, all under the guise of free-market capitalism.

The result is what we are witnessing today i.e a massive transfer of middle class wealth to a tiny percentage of people and corporations, union busting, 30 years of flat wages, economic bubbles and busts, a near total transfer of our manufacturing capabilities overseas, primarily to a COMMUNIST country, multi-billion dollar corporations that pay NO US federal taxes even though they receive tax subsidies, grants, tax incentives, and the final coup de gras; 5 conservative market fundamentalists on the SCOTUS who lifted the cap on corporate campaign spending.

It's gotten so bad that Obama couldn't make all the economic changes necessary to prevent another economic meltdown, (specifically breaking up the big banks) even after the most severe economic meltdown since the Great Depression. As one US congressman stated "they (the banks) run this place." I think that pretty much sums it up.

You are correct on all points, although I expect you do recognize that the find the strain of hysterical racism present in a minority of the US population still very useful to their purposes, and a useful tool that they use to keep those folks agitated.
Promoting a fake splinter group of less than a half dozen adherents (The "new"Black Panthers) as threat to the right of little old white ladies to vote, was an example of that.
The long-standing and never-ending program of promoting Obama as being a Kenyan anti-colonialist Mau-Mau, (and also secretly Arab), terrorist, is another page in that playbook.

That would be a job for Mr. Soros.

I think you meant the Kochroach Brothers didn't you?

Mr. Soros does not need this job, the Koch brothers have filled the role of victimized billionaires.

Yes indeed.

It does sound like the Koch brothers just want a president they can have complete control over.
Goddess knows they had it with the last administration and now they think they've earned the right to control ALL presidents.

"And, welcome to the alternative universe of Paddy’s bar in to Philadelphia…"

Home of Pink elephants?

They also seek to push the GOP to cut 1 billion from the Davis-Bacon Act....

very true

Somehow they think with all the rebuilding of infrastructure, that we really do not need the talent and experience of crafted American men and women...

The Davis–Bacon Act of 1931 is a United States federal law which established the requirement for paying prevailing wages on public works projects

I understand that and have many times earned that wage removing asbestos from old military bases here in Denver... This wage pays for or toward workers doing state or federal work, ie building bridges interstate highways or the rebuilding of gov't facilities.

Cutting the wages and maybe even the healthcare for said workers will NOT help the economy... Another knife in BO's back whether he creates jobs or not....

I wanted to make the statement that most folks in my part of my state can't understand that Davis–Bacon Act is a law, To hear them tell my working friends they can't afford to pay those wages even tho they charge those wages to the state my friends received a lot less only until B.O become president have my friends received true prevailing wages

Good Morning, I am glad you understand and very happy for you and your friends.

Well spoken +^d!

Thanks wizardofoz... Have a Fantastic Day... =)

Bravo. Well said.

Will we ever have a President willing to stand up to these cheaters and liars?
Doubtful. But, I continue to hold out hope.
Great comment!

The last one that did was assassinated.

“My father was a man of enormous integrity, and he wanted his children to grow up to be great men, and fine, honest, decent people,” David said."

Their father earned the beginnings of the family fortune helping Stalin pump oil and their father then became a co-founder of the John Birch Society.
I didn't know racism meant having "integrity". They're delusional.

Delusion...how people without ethics live with themselves. +^d!

Absolutely correct! but I'm thinking even 30 years ago.+^

yea, I agree

-------" They advocate lower taxes, less government spending, fewer regulations, and limited government."------

In the 1920s, this political philosophy was strongly supported by the Republican Party under the inspired guidance of their wealthy supporters.

This led to a Golden Age of political triumph for the Republican Party, and the election of two of the greatest presidents the United States has ever known----Calvin Coolidge, and Herbert Hoover.

In the words of the immortal Calvin Coolidge, "The business of government is business."

This eventually led to open warfare with labor unions and other low down, dirty progressive types.

This warfare ended in a huge victory for the entrenched wealthy and many of their followers called "The Great Depression". Expertly guided by the renowned Herbert Hoover, whose exploits earned him the nickname "Nero"(after the emperor reported to have fiddled while Rome burned)------Hoover, calmly and bravely sat at his post in the White House and did nothing, while all around him lesser types begged and pleaded for the government to do something----ANYTHING.

This philosophy came to be known as "laissez-faire". A term in French economics meaning "leave it alone. The wealthy industrialists, financiers, and speculators adopted the term and fancied themselves The French Knights of the Laissez-Faire.

The uneducated and unwashed masses arrayed against them simply called them, Lazy Farts.

yeah, I knew it was laissez-faire, but it's been quite a while since this was the "Liberal" mantra.

It's just more of ReichWing re-writing history to suit themselves. Much of the work probably comes from George Mason Univ. which is wholly own subsidiary of Koch Inc.

You done your home work. 2 points

Excellent.
Thanks, Wetdog.
Nice to hear from you.