IT'S NOT JUST GLENN BECK: FOX News Has Lost 21% Of Its Audience This Year

Wonder what Fox viewers would have to say if another network gave Democratic presidential candidates their own shows or regular segments.

I wonder what FOX viewers would say if a non-cable network, say NBC, sold Obama gear?

He's not a potential presidential candidate, he's a media whore.

Why are you stalking me? Do you not have anything better to do? I guess I liked it better when you were threatening me.

Does NBC sell Obama gear? And if they do, did they previously sell Bush gear? Specifics, please.

So true. Trump is getting free publicity for all his other business ventures.

I re-posted your amazing post regarding "What The Tea Party" really wants on Huff Post." FYI
I gave you credit.

Great job!

That is what is happening to Fox and the Republicans. Both are about as irrelevant to the discussion of solving our problems as they can be AND now their (stwick) is getting boring.

LMAO!

Leen61, I just wanted to let you know, that I absolutely in no way intended to offend YOU, you have always come across as a kind, insightful and intelligent person, who obviously cares a great deal about their fellow citizens, and my rant actually should've been posted as a stand-alone post, and not as a response to something you said, regardless, if I have offended YOU in any way, I apologize.

V,
I accept your apology and explanation. It just hit me hard this morning when I first read it before I left for work. As long as in the future you keep your personal thoughts about me separate from your comments about people in general, we will be OK. Thanks for your kind words in regards to me.

That is true, but in order to maintain a plutocracy, you don't have to fool all the people all the time, just more than a half of the VOTING population all the time, and that will ensure that Subjectavites remain in power.

According to the busters, unions have always been terrorist organizations.

agreed...he lost touch with reality awhile ago

I have been listening to Beck for many months, and I have to say he just keeps on sliding down that slippery slope of stupid. It gets crazier all the time.

link?

You have more intestinal fortitude than I, god speed.

It's like taking a tiny dose of venom everyday. Eventually you get to where it won't kill you, but it still makes you pretty sick.

Dude that was worthless. Everyone hates him because he blatantly lies, not because he wears magic underwear.

Mass-debate?

I'll bet half of their viewers are those that watch them so they can call them out for their bogus reporting and outright spin.

did I miss something somewhere? something that prove quantity equals quality, let alone truth?

FIXED News was made for idiots just like you. So keep pimpin that Rethuglican Kool-Aid

Oh you poor deluded thing you. If corporations and hospitals would stop piping in Fox News as the only channel allowed I can guaran-damn-tee you that it wouldn't be so. I do my part, I shut off every television I can come in contact with wherever I am working. Just doing my part to stop the Murdouche propaganda machine.

And for the record, I get a huge dose of Fox everday whether I want it or not and there is no debate. It's a bunch of self-congratulatory monkeys grinning like idiots, patting themselves on the back and shouting down anyone with a differing opinion. There are no journalists on Fox, only paid for mouth pieces (and I'm sure we all know what goes in and out of the mouths of Megyn and Michelle)

My point was directed at the article in question "IT'S NOT JUST GLENN BECK: FOX News Has Lost 21% Of Its Audience This Year" Fox dominance in cable ratings has not changed. I see no evidence that views have left the network. You and your fellow comrades never watch the fox news channel. If you did you would have seen a rousing debate on there morning show that is rarely reproduced on the networks with fewer viewers than fox!

Fox "News" has no debate, Americans are deserting it in droves and progressives are indeed foaming at the mouth-from LAUGHING so hard.

Rousing debate, huh? Do tell. Let me guess, 2 or 3 far right leaning individuals and a so called "moderate" to round out the fair and balanced perspective?

Gretchen Carlson, Steve Doucy and Brian Kilmead are great debaters? Their collective IQ barely registers above double digits. They are paid mouthpieces for the Rupert Murdoch agenda. If you think that produces rousing debate, I think you need to look up that word in a dictionary. They won't even breathe a disclaimer that Newscorp is partly owned by the same guy who funded the Ground Zero mosque and you're going to get legitimate debate from these charletons? Not quite.

LOL to anyone who relies on ratings to make an argument regarding quality programming. You have shown some excellent examples.

I meant lies. You know, they drink the lie-flavored Kool Aid (goes in the mouth) and then spew it out for an audience (goes out of the mouth). What did you think? (Yeah, sure that is what I meant) ; )

Indeed.

In fact, I think I can say with some degree of certainty that we here at CurrentTV News don't need fence sitting Democrats or Progressives that rely on FIXED NEWS for actual news. These are the same catatonic fence sitters that always let us down at at the polls.

Touche!!!

Let's hope so!!!!!!!!!

No, it's a matter of cause and effect, first of all, to have realistic thinking, one must eliminate superstition, therefore anything which constitutes "signs" is primitive thinking, please remove emotion and think of the actual words which are being stated, we're not in the 15th fucking century where we look for "signs" for anything, let's look at objective reality.

It is not my intention to offend anyone or to be a prick concerning semantics, but since I feel it is important to be semantically correct, that is to say, one's argument has to be precise, we can't say something such as "gee, do ghosts and goblins control our fucking life?" for Christ sakes were not fucking eight-year-olds, Will everybody here please quit babbling in the fucking soap opera of the situation? is Glenn Beck crazy? what color socks does he wear? Will he be fired from Fox? blah blah fucking blah, ultimately, concerning relevance, it is irrelevant, stop wasting your fucking time. The entire point of this so-called "controversy" is to take up your time effort and energy, into something which is ultimately irrelevant, what does it fucking matter- IN YOUR LIFE- what another person does? Stop living your life vicariously!!!!!!!! please!, if you don't know the word, look it up! please!, stop being so incredibly and totally fucking ignorant!

Does society have complete and universal health care? Do you admire and respect the decisions of your government? as regards your personal liberty? Are the elderly in our nation (Which one day, the one universal truth amongst all of us, rich poor or whatever, is that old age is going to occur) how is this going to be taking care of appropriately?

I believe, that human beings should not simply be put into institutions to be managed until we/they grow old and die, but a different kind of institution, a community, where individuals can rightly claim (and demonstrate through their knowledge) that they are a part of our society, which will help us to prepare for the future.

Endlessly talking about Glenn Beck, is he stupid or is he crazy, or any other cult of personality character and their bullshit, is designed for a specific purpose, to keep you talking (or thinking endlessly) about their ultimate truly meaningless bullshit you are intended to soak up, and spend as much as time possible "debating" as energy diffusing-and purpose defusing- endpoint. That is to say, that's the entire point of debating the relative moral/economic merits of one"representative" over another, is a soap opera affect of keeping you constantly divided and constantly debating something which has absolutely no real fucking meaning in our lives! would someone, anyone, please recognize this! Does anyone out there understand?

A sensational Sensibility V4V

Or maybe their viewers are starting to see that they've been duped.

"No, it's a matter of cause and effect, first of all, to have realistic thinking, one must eliminate superstition, therefore anything which constitutes "signs" is primitive thinking, please remove emotion and think of the actual words which are being stated, we're not in the 15th fucking century where we look for "signs" for anything, let's look at objective reality."

Well, thank you for believing that I partake in primitive thinking and that I live in the 15th fucking century. I think you went a little overboard in eviscerating what I thought was an innocent enough comment. I wasn't claiming to have irrefutable evidence to back my statement, only stating a blithesome hope for that to be the case. But thanks for putting me in my place anyway, V. I appreciate it. Since the response was based off of my reply, I'm guessing that you believe that I'm one of those who just stroll through my life without concerning myself with the major issues of the day like oh, say, universal health care or possibly WI workers fighting for their rights. Glad to know that I really delusionally live a vicarious life. I'll start my day on that cheery note.

That is certainly another possibility, August K.

Maybe the word 'indication' instead of 'sign' would be less incendiary for VFORVENDETTA? I hope you're right about these ratings ramifications, but also agree with V that this cult of personality crap has a dangerously divisive and distractive element. It seems to me, however that V's rant style might be likely to exacerbate the divisiveness. Eh what?

While I think I understand your message, I did not appreciate the expletive-laden lecture that accompanied it.

Thank you, good to see you!

First of all, I realize that for many people, being human and all that, have a tendency to internalize what is being said, so allow me to reiterate. I person saying that they are upset with a person's language or tone, is like someone being emotionally upset over the existence of gravity. Like the old saying, it's okay not to like the message, but don't hate the messenger, one could say (actually many have said) that I have a tendency to speak before I think, actually I always try to think before I speak, it's just that for many people, they are used to receiving information which has been diluted, sugarcoated (least some poor little person get their poor little sensibilities hurt) or otherwise adulterated that has unfortunately -particularly in America- become the norm, which is a very bad thing, here's why.

Anytime you curtail language, you change It's inherent meaning, there is no way to avoid this, and trying to do so (the idiotic practice of being PC was a perfect example) always ends up with bad results, in other words, there are times when the only appropriate response to someone (such as if one were standing in front of Gov. Scott Walker of Wisconsin, when he started spewing out his bat shit crazy "budget" proposals) is to say -FUCK YOU- a statement which I feel most people would agree, it's pretty hard to misconstrue. Again, this truth concerning expression, is not MY truth, it is A truth, and the sooner a person understands and accepts this fact of existence, the better off they are.

Ideas are represented by words, change the words (regardless of one's intention) and you change the idea, and that is the reason why language should not be curtailed in any way shape or form, because it is ultimately, very bad for society.I hope this helps you.

Dear V,

Thanks for the response. To clarify, You came across as a bit of a bully in your earlier response to Leena. That was what I most objected to.

Given your apology to Leena, and your clarification to me, I now see you as someone who has something passionate to say, and as someone I would like to hear more from.

I have no objection to expletive-peppered rants as long as they don't take over the message, and as long as they are not personally directed.

Peace to you. Friends?

Great! yeah, she's a good person, and I did not want to offend her. Friends? of course!

I can't disagree with anything you say here.

HYSTERICAL.

http://vimeo.com/20622744

Watch this. Regardless of left vs right, everyone in the world knows what Fox viewers fear---the truth. How could anyone be afraid of Michelle Bachmann, Sarah Palin, or Glenn Beck? They have lost their flare. They had everyone riled up, but its over. Glenn Beck rolled out with a bundle of wild claims, and the extreme Right personalities followed along. He had everyone really scared. But after time, the people start repeating the things they believed in public, which caused tons of people to confront these morons with facts. Im try not to be too insulting because I realize many of these people truly never had a proper education, or live in poverty, and in communities where intelligence is down right loathed. Like Ronald Reagan said, facts are stubborn things. Right now, it is you that is full of fear and hate. You mask your own insecurities with an extra serving of arrogance and believe the rest of us will perceive it as confidence. Not happening. Not here. Not today, not ever.

Why is it that a conservative can not tell the difference between fear and contempt? I dont fear faux news, Sarah Palin or any other wingnut. I, and every other progressive I know, find it astounding what passes for intelligence in conservative circles.

Judging by your vitriol, you must be scared shitless of anything remotely left of batshit crazy.

http://vimeo.com/20622744

By the way, the video I gave a link to:

(Astro) Turf Wars

The Tea Party movement has taken American politics by storm. But is this truly a populist uprising or one of the greatest feats of propaganda ever seen? Australian filmmaker Taki Oldham sets out answer this question, finding that behind the movement’s rhetoric of ‘freedom’ versus ‘socialism’ lies a highly co-ordinated network of shadow groups, funded by the likes of billionaire ideologues Charles and David Koch. Are the Tea Party protestors really just pawns in a plan to replace government with a privatized America?

Why, you big pootyhead.

Are you really that blind that you do not see the harm you do?

I don't think progressives feel threatened by Faux News at all. What they feel threatened by is people who exhibit such astounding gullibility when it comes to the crap they broadcast. Faux News doesn't give a rats ass about liberals, conservatives, independents or anyone else for that matter. What they care about is money. If exploiting the stupidity of conservatives is the way to that money, then they'll be conservatives. If they could exploit liberals in a similar manner, they'd be liberals.

Actually, this IS big news for the Left, Helena. See, we operate in a world based on truth not on fear and lies. And we work really hard to spread that truth. News like this means that people are starting to listen.

And it ain't anywhere close to being over. But, hey, there's still plenty of time for you to get your dose of fear for the day. I hear Armageddon is scheduled to arrive tomorrow. But I'm not sure about that date. Could you check with Glenn Beck and let me know?

I dont consider myself a lefty-liberal, more like anti-corporate and theocratic propaganda. This story is important because it means that the Fox is loosing its capacity to deceive so many Americans. This is a sign of hope for progress to made. I know how much you Neo-Conservatives hate that word, "progress", but its about time people stood up and moved forward---logically---not backwards.

The only ones who care about ratings are you wingnuts. You'll notice when anyone criticizes faux news you guys come up with ratings!ratings!ratings!.. who cares? More people watch Jersey shore and it's a show about idiots.

I dont see Faux news bragging about journalism awards.. Until then, they are just a Jersey Shore for conservative twats.

It is big news because it's a travesty of journalism and an embarrassment to America

Please, for all our sakes, don't challenge "Worse." There could easily be worse than Faux.

What if the Kochs, Gates, Coors, DuPonts and the rest of the Oligarchs decided they wanted a full time network?
Considering the Racist nature of many of those families, they could get some awfully bad shite on the air.

Budweiser produces the most widely consumed beer in the world, that has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that it is shit beer, if you talk to anyone who is a real beer maker,(such as in Bavaria Germany) they will instantaneously tell you, that Budweiser is shit beer. The point of this, is that popularity has absolutely nothing to do with truth, get that concept in your brain, people once (popularly) believed ( through the bullshit of the Catholic Church) that the earth was the center of the universe, and controlled by Crystal spheres,( which proven by Galileo-a devout Catholic-were demonstrated to be complete bullshit) because I am assuming that converting you to any form of reason based analysis is futile, (ie: you carry yourself as an idiot) I will simply say believe what you want, but it has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with reality, no matter how much your child like belief systems and fantasies wish to make it so.

Ke-rhist on a crutch, if the lefty's aren't pounding anyone who disagrees with their la-la Utopian fantasy on their version of sound reasoned government (tax & spend)... they are constantly throwing rhetorical flowers at each other praising their delusional imagined superior intellect... and voting any fact that's contrary to their doctrine down... absolutely pathetic.

You have a shaky record to stand on. We wouldn't be having this conversation if we had raised taxes to pay for the elective wars we entered 10 years ago!

You only care about fiscal responsibility when the Dems are in the majority!

BTW, you lost all credibility when you extorted a recent continued tax cut for the wealthy, proving Cheney's point, deficits don't matter...to the GOP.

I love it. Fox News - The Jersey Shore of News. Please someone with more talent than me come up with a picture featuring right wingnuts as the Jersey Shore. LOL Get the guy who posed online without his shirt on to be The Situation, I guess. ; )

Yay for V. This is great and truthful.

"WHY is THIS the #1 rated "news" story on Current?"

You have a point. It should have been listed under a comedy header instead of news. Then it would be much clearer why it's #1.

hats off to you! could not have said it better myself! good to see you again! +^

No... It is not 'my' shaky record, but 'our' shaky record... by our 535 self serving legislating bureaucrats that 'we' foolishly and continually re-elect year after year!

Tell me please, how does raising taxes benefit the populace?... do you mean funding more and more corrupted and mis-managed 'entitlement' programs on the backs of the never empty 'honey-pot'... i.e. the taxpayers (aka the money machine)?

Do you know that today in America there are nearly twice as many people working for the government (22.5 million) than in all of manufacturing (11.5 million). This is an almost exact reversal of the situation in 1960, when there were 15 million workers in manufacturing and 8.7 million collecting a paycheck from the government?

It gets worse. More Americans work for the government than work in construction, farming, fishing, forestry, manufacturing, mining and utilities combined. We have moved decisively from a nation of makers to a nation of takers. Nearly half of the $2.2 trillion cost of state and local governments is the $1 trillion-a-year tab for pay and benefits of state and local employees. Is it any wonder that so many states and cities cannot pay their bills?
... and you think raising taxes, then spending without limits with no debt ceiling will fix our economic ills? At what point will you believe that we cannot borrow and spend our way out of debt?

Oh yeah, tell me more about 'liberal' credibility... what's left of it

Yes it is indeed OUR problem!tha

I think it is immoral to put 2 elective wars on a credit card, when, if we had raised taxes and instituted a draft to support the war in real time, I doubt we would still be there.

Pushing this debt onto our children and grandchildren is also immoral. That is why we should be paying for this, NOT giving ourselves a tax break!

The "Left vs Right" paradigm is also a false one. The truth is that the tension for our resources is between the Corporations and their bought politicians AGAINST the rest of us! I believe the technical term for that is Fascism. Their latest acqusition appears to be our Supreme Court.

I am NOT for redundant govenment services and unecessary regulation. I do expect safe roads, food and affordable health services. It would be nice if our government also protected us from cheap foreign goods by imposing tariffs. We should not be giving tax breaks to companies who off-shore jobs. I also believe we need to protect our air and water supply.

I believe we both love our country, and only want the best for our children. I believe we have a better chance of working out our problems than those who are paid to conspire against us.

Peace.

Cool... now we're on the same page.

It is estimated that 1% of the U.S. population suffers from a serious mental disorder. 310 million Americans, 3 million watch faux, I think we found them.

Where's that from? Se7en? I know I know it, but I can't place it...

yep. Se7en.. now, if you can tell me how the wolf likes his coffee, without googling, I'll be really impressed.

Sorry, I can't, I was tempted to google, but I figured I'm man up and admit it. I'm glad I remembered the original quote, I'd feel awesome if I could remember the wolf line.

now I'm curious, how does the wolf like it? I'm at a complete loss, and honestly, I can't even remember the scene where it's discussed.

It's a different movie but I figured anyone who would remember that quote probably has a good memory for movie lines. The wolf is from Pulp Fiction and he takes his coffee with.. lots of cream, lots of sugar. lol.